GM HOLDEN 304 V8 ENGINE RE-BUILD [EP1]
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Today on The Skid Factory We're kicking off a new build series starting with this 1997 Holden 304 V8 Engine.
The Engine was purchased off Facebook and without knowing the history, Al strips it down to assess the block and cylinder bores for wear.
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One trick is to tell 'em stories that don't go anywhere - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say.
Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
polishdiapersale most obscure simpsons reference I’ve seen in awhile, kudos to you sir!
Those were the days...not like Gen X Hamsters sipping Lattes.......
@@ReignitedAuto I knew this sounded familiar.
Now my story begins in Nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen the wold "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.
As an American I’ve no idea what’s being said but I’m laughing and enjoying all the fun slang/words while clapping!
Al -“I’m not an expert on Holden V8s”, proceeds to explain in intricate detail every GM V8 made in Australia!
Well at least he covered his arse just in case he made a mistake.
What an absolute weapon 💪
Cracked open a VB tallie and put my mullet wig on for this one 🤟🏼
I all so cracked open a VB tallie and I didn't put a mullet wig on tho...🍻👍😎...Why...Because I've got a mullet...😂👌...
My old man calls tallies King Browns lol
I call them VB long necks...👍🍻...Cheers Bra...
Victorian
Breakfast
busted your a ford owner us gm boys can grow our own
Yeah we got Holden V8s down here in Tassie ... and yes they usually end up in the bushes !
Straight 6's seem to be the thing ....... they still end up in bushes.
But the difference was how far did the car get wrapped around the tree.
Love this engine archaeology Al. You are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
Al: talks for 25 minutes unscripted about the history and geneology of Holden V8s
Also Al: But i don't know much about them, just a vague interest.
LOL!
@@robmatthewswoodturning4988 And manages to be seriously funny. Just the best channel ever.
I'm amazed of how much knowledge and experience he has, until today I thought he basically messed around with japanese stuff, turns out he knows a shit ton of stuff regarding EVERYTHING.
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From what i can see they look like aftermarket pistons has i have almost the same but in a flat top. ACL are quite a good budget piston
Subbed from the go
hey throw that engine in my ute lol
Methinks the "8 ball " 🎱 is looking for "10 mm" sockets!.
We need a 10 mm socket emoji ?
Looking forward to much Aussie V 8 Ness. Thanks for sharing.
Hell yes boys! My first car was a 304 VP Wagon. Stoked on this one.
Al's virtually encyclopaedic with his knowledge. Could listen to the man explain engines on repeat.
There's something so satisfying about hearing bolts crack loose.
Cant wait to see what this goes in.
This bloke is a legend. Pissed myself at the squashed can and 8 ball. 🤙
So good to see old school and all the good info. Can't wait to see the turbo on this.
The General Motors Holden line of V8s are the only V8s with the right bank of cylinders forward , to help with right hand drive .
Yes! Finally back on a motor I know, stoked to see some GM stuff from you guys
What a complete fountain of knowledge you are Al...bloody amazing
Excellent info with the story of these engines, one of my favourite V8's
A hard day at work is rewarded with a lemon squash and Skid Factory. Aw yiss.
Cool episode lads. Look forward to the next one. Just had to pull the 304 from my vt to fix an oil leak after nambour sprints the other week. Keep up the good work
@Puppet lover yeah wow. That certainly was a sad day
Al’s absolutely correct about the race block manufacturers. Splayed mains are the preferred method of fastening the main caps on 1500+hp rated blocks.
How does Larry Perkins not come into this discussion? He and his team had all the right things to make 590hp at the crank and surely they have made some info available on these questions that need answers. I’m 100% positive some of his parts or at least copies of them are still floating around.
Very cool as always, had a VR with 304 , first engine didnt get real tired til it had over 500000 ks on it. Good old things!
Great Video & Content like always.
(i bet it was not easy to avoid saying (IN THE BIN) for that ECU)
'Probably end up in the bushe's' The man is a god.
Holden engineers did make an overhead cam prototype of the 5 litre but it was shelved for unknown reasons
Thanks guys, Looking forward to this one
one of my favourite sounding engines
Wearing onions on your belt - Grandma Simpson. Classic!
Good on ya mate for all ur information and experience
Well, well, well. A Holden V8, this will be interesting.
Also, as a Victorian that sometimes gets snow where he lives, I find the RX8 handles it alright. Because what makes less sense in the snow than a 5L V8? Rotary.
Can speak from experience: engineers are usually last to hear about a project cancellation
🎱 has its funny random appearances! 🍋 squash should be your "Sponsor"
basically, the 304 motor is the LS's daddy
Older Caterpillar v8s had the angled bolts in the main caps they may still do now havent seen one in a couple of decades. I cut my teeth in a reco shop on the old 253 and 308s and by the way there are plenty of v8s down here in tazzy but bang for buck go the falcon turbo.
How good was that. Als on fire. Informative and entertaining. I wonder how many times off camera that damn 8 ball turn up though
It's definitely the XXXX that kept that motor clean over the years.
Nothing better than the small block Chev 283 327 350 and 400
Except a GMH 355 ci roller cam , bunch of bananas intake, motor , that chev stole from Holden ! LS have the same set up in 1997 , Aussies had it in 1987 ! As usual we created it and you stole it !
Hello fellow non-Patreon people. 😎
Hell yeah Al!! Bring on the plastic pig, the classic 304!! 👍
Do you see being a none patreon supporter as being a badge to wear ?
@@TheStwat Do you see being an ass as being a way to be? 🤨 Maybe there's a whole heap of people like me who would like to be Patreon supporters but have other things like bills to pay and families to feed. 🤔 Deal with it, not the first time I've said it, won't be the last.🖕 Added edit: Forgot the it! 🤷
@@MafiaboysWorld I was simply asking, no offence intended. I just found it odd that you seemed to revel in being a none patreon, that's all. There's no need to be abusive.
I am not a patron, by the way.
@@TheStwat Look at how you worded your question and wonder why you got clapback? 🤔 Badge to wear, really? 🤨 A nicer way would've been just to ask "why do you say this every episode?" to which I would respond, "Because I'm just being nice to the people like me who can't afford it!" 👍
@@MafiaboysWorld You say this every episode?
Well guys, my VT had done 650K / KM and i still got over 650 KM per tank, always served with good oil and coolants and plugs etc, the only thin,which i noticed was the main front oil seal went on me, which is on the sump, thats it, but did go through 2 auto's but only because the first auto the guy ripped me off, i asked to a full rebuild, yet basically just changed the damaged parts and put it back together ?
The 2nd auto was done by a friend and then she would still hit 200KM no worries, stock as a rock other than the h/duty, drum put in the auto, so when it changes gears it would put you in the seat, not hard mind you, so i reckon its like anything if you look after it, it will look after you. :) Penrite / Mobil oils and coolants were wynns or Holden Oe stuff, power steering flushed every 20K and also brakes were done and changed rotors only once,when i put bendix ultimates in her and they chewed the rotors up real quick especially when you hard stopping and not many times either, so had to change them, also it was only 25 of them built i believe as a berlina and in the capricorn green mirca and 5lt ex melton shire company car actually and was used as a company car, via sale reping all around victoria and south australia. :)
Love the content boys 👍🏼 keep up the awesome work.
Would love to see one, but I can't recall Al's opinion on twinscrew 'chargers. I do however, recall him throwing one in the trash...
Sweeeet. Love our series 1 VT 308
Whats going on there at 19:22. . Ha, was that Woody!?
24:14 Spraying out the wisdom like a god....
Al you are awesome
That dizzy looks like the one on my 1978 XC 5.8 L.
"In the bin?"
"Most of it will go in the bin"
"Bunch of bananas in Australia"
So it's just a boat anchor, in Australia?
It doesn't look like it's been serviced well, hence the reason it looks like a corroded boat anchor.
Old kalmaker software could do a lot retuning those old memcals
By my deeds I do honour him, V8!
8:00 ya look like YA gonna cry about the old engine
Anyone else think turbo Yoda's tattoo is a dancing bear ?
Ahh the old 5Leaker
Puppet lover about the only thing they are good for is a boat anchor 🤣
Big block splayed main caps are stronger than the ls style 6 bolt
Us Tasmanians don't all live in the bush lol. Also into the 1uzs and 3uzs, no corrosion problem hear 🤣
4:40 Nice basket you've got on your shelf there Al, did you get it complementary with some screws?
Dirty 5 litre love .... should keep them people whinging about barras and lsx engines happy
So - Now I'm starting to wonder... How many tattoos DOES Al have? And is Woody all moustache and no doodles? :D
Finally yodez a v8 🧐
Hey I have had a V8 engine out of a Caialis was surpose to go into a landcruiser wagon
But my question is can they be converisioned to be used in a old ski boat?
They can provided someone makes water jacket exhaust manifolds for them. The bottom half of the engine is not really any different from a 70s 308 and they were commonly used in ski boats.
@theskidfactory hey mate, in the process of fixing a blown headgasket on a vs statesman, my question is, why would my front waterjackets be completely blocked off I'm lost, if the rears aren't used cheers
The utter disappointment when he hoped for a 4-bolt block. Haha
But did you set the toaster to 3.. medium brown?
Where are your shop ?
Can anyone tell me what's the deal with the 8 ball showing up randoming throughout the build...I'm been watching for a while now but they must have done the joke before I started watching.
The deal is just as you said, that it shows up randomly during the build. Same with lemon squashes, photo of Kramer, etc.
Lemon Squash tin in the engine as well.....weird huh?
That can looked like an actual mango
I'm from the states, I thought Holden used Chevy engines. I've never seen anything like it. It almost reminds me of an AMC minus the distributor location. Interesting.
Holden used some Chev V8's before the local Holden 308 and 253 V8's were developed.. Chev 307's and one car had a 327. The 350 was available for a little while afterwards as an upmarket option.
So this is a much smaller AU version on the Vortec 5.7 engine
No.
will you guys be coming over for Drag Week?
Chucks ECU into bin for effect. Retrieves ECU and plugs it back onto wiring loom and then removes loom.
What the heck are you doing brah?
That engine would fit in my 84 S10 possibly better than my G1.5 350 maybe a bit farward , to bad it wouldn't fit in the post , 400$ junkyard engine $1000 in freight to U aSs A probably would be cheaper to buy a whole car
Do more barra projects
Hey when is this 304 video continuing mate any way of finding out
On wednesday.
Put it in an xr6 falcon
I forget - what's the story behind the 8 ball?
It's going in a Ford ranchero.
Supercharge that shite Boys!!!!!!
So, you're gonna put this in a Camira yeah?
$15k for holden to build your engine properly. Bargin! wonder why they went bust
they didn't get bust dickhead they moved production overseas to maximise profits get your facts right...
@@big_lez3657 woah no need to be nasty mate. I'll correct myself then. No wonder they needed 100's of millions of tax payer dollars to stay afloat and are going bust anyway.
It was a $10,000 option only for the 215i/220i 5.7 from HSV to have HRT blueprint and hand build your engine.
Forced induction is an irrelevant question, Al is not known as "naturally aspirated yoda"
Turbskies tend to go well with a Holden 5 litre too, 14 psi is not uncommon for these things to happily handle
@@HotForgeChaos absolutely right mate, I was sarcastically eluding to the fact that "turbo yoda" is not an n/a kinda guy.....
He engraved a turbo on the connectong rod...
Forced induction is awesome but it's also great to check out the Naturally Aspirated side of life too and see how it goes.
@@theskidfactory too much lemon squash tonight mate 🤔🤔😉🍻
Who dropped their guts at 19:23 before the transition lol
It's the little things that make ya smile....
I come into the comments just to see this comment 😂
a really moist one hahah !
HAHA
Not just me so 😂😂😂
Feel like i just got schooled for 28 mins! What an Ep, so good mate!
Same. Epic learning. Thanks Al!
I don't know it all but I am happy to chat about what I do know. Thanks for watching.
Slick with the 8 ball this time! I enjoy its random appearances!
To early, I never watch past the discovery of the ball
3:32 looks like a can a xxxx gold in the motor too, xxxx gold and a 8 ball you can’t go wrong haha.
@@noeleenbatchelor3736 nah mate good ole lemon squash
I was like wtf is that🤔🤔
A 304, an 8 ball, and a Simpsons reference. Spoiling us today Al.
Playwme Surname and a xxxx
I mean he’s spoiling everyone with this project of his it’s like mind games with this shit haha I think he’s tryna throw me off from the main focus of this 😂
*sees Al leaning over a V8
Me: Aww yeah, bring on the twin turbo!
Al: Nothin's off the table
:>
Darthane hahahahaha nothing was ever on the table unless he’s tryna cram air onto that too😂
So good to watch, my boyfriend has a 5L VS and I want to help him do a full engine rebuild to thank him for all the amazing things he does, and this has really helped. :)
"Onions on our belts". love the Simpson's reference.
Did you see the Simpsons flag in the background of the whole episode.
It was the style at the time. You could only get yellow onions! Because of the war.
The bag labeled "bolts" had me rolling
Descriptive!
It's a good job Al labelled the ziplock bag, otherwise he'd be scratching his head for hours during reassembly wondering what they were. S'pose he could always google it 💭
He forgot his nuts too never forget the nuts 😂
I'm going to say that is the best episode you have ever done! The first fifteen minutes, pure history, and Al shining more and more with passion. I really enjoy hearing about all the odd quirks, silly decisions and fascinating past that makes a engine what it is today, or what it was then. Thanks so much for producing content that makes me proud to be an Australian. Great spit too Al.
Yeah the skid factory 🏭 Aussie 5L for the win !!
Adam Ridley the Aussie Ford 5.0L was legendary as well. Way before the coyote and after the Windsor.
@@alexcorona WTF! The Windsor was used through to the AU then they went to the mod motor in the BA. When did Ford Australia design a 5.0L of their own!
Ford Built the 302 (5ltr) Cleveland in Australia cast here heads redesigned here , 6 inch rods , crank 3.0 inch. Sure was based on American Cleveland but now USA wants Aussie Cleveland's cause better heads and block.
@@joeycowen7929 lmao nobody in USA wants 30 year old shitty engine parts.What information have you based your comment off? Lmfao
You can just see the hope on Al's face, waiting for Woody to ask if he wore brown or red onions on his belt... but alas, nothin'.
Best sounding engine ever put in a car. So happy with this already.
It’s a shame all those noise is heard screaming up the street but the cars generally don’t go anywhere fast. Great sound with zero actual go. I’ve owned them too
@@agga3955 yeh, designed for maximum time for hearing them drive by
@@agga3955 who cares there's always something faster. Not many engines are as reliable though.
@@agga3955 uve owned clapped out shit boxes then.mine goes quite nice thank you very much
90% of them make a lot of noise and go nowhere. The rest have some decent money sunk in them 😂
Correct me if I’m wrong, did someone drop their guts at 19:24🤭
Jason Browne no correction required. Def
Have a vp bt1 after owning a few ls’s the 5 litre sounds so much nicer!
Very informative. I learnt a lot. I have always had Holden V8's. I even had a blueprinted VK 5 liter which ran like a Swiss watch. My favourite.
Totally agree on that one ! I had a mate in the 80's who had a VK with a fully balanced 304 - @ 60 km/h in first gear it was like a sewing-machine - SO SMOOTH !!!
Watching them take the bearings out makes me want to cry. This engine with supposedly 190k looks brand new compared to mine with around 120k. My bearings were so worn that the copper was showing on nearly every crank/piston bearing. I don't even want to think about what the cam will look like when I take the top end apart. SERVICE YOUR ENGINES PEOPLE!!!
I bought a VN ex police car when I was 19, so that woulda been 1991 or so. 5 speed, 304. everyone told me i was crazy to buy an ex cop car but that engine never let me down, apart from when people tried to steal it (3 times). I had it for 7 years, paid $12,000 for it at govt auction and sold it for $7,000 i think. it had something like 210,000 km on it when i sold it but it didn't use oil. The car itself was falling apart around the engine cuz i never had enough money to fix things but the engine was always strong. like Al says, didn't blow your head off with power but it was torquey, great fun pushing it through the gears. Except when it was wet, then i'd get beaten at the lights by 200Bs and Geminis and stuff because I couldn't get any traction. Only traction control back then was your right foot... like someone else said here it sounded great, mine had stainless headers which i'm not sure were standard or a cop thing but anyway it was a sweet note. great car.
Really enjoyed learning the 304 history 👍.
What a nugget, good vid guys.. except the fart. not awesome... lol
Interesting history of this motor and dear Peter Brock's input to a 304 motor. Nice one.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 The can and the 8 ball :D Amazing the engine ever ran at all. Ahhhh I found that too funny.
You're onto it with the splayed 4 bolt main caps Al, Steve Morris agrees with you on that and I think he knows a thing or 2 about big strength, high horsepower engine design 👌
I have a couple of VS generation 304s and an old blue 253 sitting in my shed at the moment 🤣
Holden engine archaeology class, love it! I was always a crossflow boy, but this is still riveting
back in the day the thing to do with these was offset grind the crank,add 350 chev rods or 265 rods and 350 or 327 pistons and make them a 331 cube stroker
yep poor mans stroker :D lots of weird things used to be done to em lol I've heard of people putting 253 cranks in 308's to destroke em to around 277 and they rev to the moon hahaha or even 253 heads as well to bump up compression too lol all poor mans tricks
I had a 333 stroker in my vc. Was a weapon! And sounded tough.
@@STREETCARCULTURE nice. I had vb sle with 333 with a t400 and vlt diff went 👌
The 333 strokers are a fun setup!
@@5lcalais1 253 crank has same stroke as 308 crank, they re about 10% lighter though so that could make it feel like it's more rev happy.
Was 5044, went to 4987cc. This is the modern equivalent of ancient story telling. Passing down the ancient knowledge to the younger generations.
Had one of these, XX3 (195kw). Wasn't massively strong, but was very smooth and with a manual was reasonably efficient. Good cruiser. The problem with a power number alone is that it doesn't always account for drivability. Power, Torque, rev numbers each is achieved at and the vehicle and driveline used are all contributors.