Secondary Dominant chords
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Ever wondered what Secondary Dominant chords were and how you could use them? Hopefully my ramblings here will help make things a little clearer.
I really hope you find some useful stuff in my music theory videos that might help you on your musical journey.
Apologies for the pan issue with the piano, I hadn’t spotted that before upload. Will do better next time!
Thanks for being here. MK
Chapter markers:
00:00-00:30 Intro
00:30-02:32 What's a dominant chord?
02:32-03:00 What's a Primary Dominant?
03:00-04:30 What's a Secondary Dominant?
04:30-09:53 Using Secondary Dominants
09:53-10:35 Mindful of Melody
10:35- Substitutions?
The visual effects are perfect. This is the best video I've seen that makes this complex concept easy to understand. Thanks a million.
Ah thanks for the kind words 🙏 Great to hear you're finding some value from my videos! Thanks watching.
So well explained, even a guitar player can follow it.
Cheers Tony, glad you could follow along, hopefully there was something useful in there too. Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
@@michaelkeithson definitely. I’m new to your channel, but so far it’s really great. Keep it up!
@@tonytoy3939 Cheers Tony, I appreciate the encouragement. Feel like it’s still early days for me too, looking forward to seeing how the channel can grow as it continues.
I concur!
You are the best teacher I have ever seen! I don't even play piano, I play guitar, but I have learnt more from you than any body else. Thank you so much!
Ah, thanks so much, I really appreciate your kind words. It seems that a lot of guitarists are finding my videos helpful which is so great to hear.
Thanks for sharing the love 🙏
Even when I think I understand a topic I always learn something. Great lesson.
Thanks for your comment Eric! I’m pleased you got something out of it. 👍🏼
Really good video. Covered so much in a clear and untedious way with real writing applications and not just theory. Thanks for making this
Thanks for the kind comment, glad you enjoyed it 🙏
This is my new favorite music channel. You have everything right. Your voice and attitude just works for jazz and is really pleasant. The piano roll, pacing and everything… you got it all right. I make videos too (not in music), so I’m kind of blown away by just how right you got it. Love your work - I look forward to seeing more!
Ah thanks man, appreciate your kind words 🙏
Thanks for taking the time to comment and really glad you’re enjoying the videos. Cheers!
Idk how you don’t have a million followers man… you make some of the best music analysis videos out there
🙏 Thanks Lucy, really appreciate your kind comment. I feel like I'm already winning at 15k, it's just really good to know that people think my little videos have some value and are making a difference to people on their music journey. 😳
great video, clear concise and I really appreciate staying in Cmajor for demonstrations! Already quite familiar with the concept but this video gave me a bunch of ideas I want to try out, thanks!
Thanks for comment Hamish, glad you found something in there to inspire you. Cheers!
You are such an excellent teacher. Thank God you started this online teaching life.
Wow, thanks for the generous comment. It’s still early days really, let’s hope I can keep thinking of things to talk about! Thanks for watching 👍🏼🎹🎵
Micheal, these tutorials of yours are so informative and so useful. As one of those folks who as a young kid learned to play by ear alone, having never learned any formal theory, nor even how to even read properly, I find myself later in life trying to filll in the holes in my musical knowledge.
I never stopped playing, so it's been about 55 years as a musician, albeit one with plenty yet to learn, and it's so fun to learn new things about something you do and love. Your lessons are so very clearly expressed, and I've picked up so much from these sessions that I just wanted to give you the most heartfelt thanks. You're a great teacher and help make this knowledge instantly attainable. So cheers! Thank you, so much!
Hey Douglas! Thanks for your nice comment, it's much appreciated 🙏. It's great to hear you're finding some value from my videos. Good luck on your musical journey! Cheers
This is the first time someone has explained secondary dominant chords and I feel like I fully grasp it now. Thank you so much for this!
Thanks for your comment Eric 🙏
I’m really glad you found it helpful.
great explanation; i've used them a lot and never knew what i was doing; just going on how harmonies worked and how the melody fit inside certain dominant chord infusions.....good stuff!!!
All good with introducing the naming conventions for the "dominant" as the name of a particular scale degree.
Then you introduce the SEVENTH as the extension of that chord which gives it the dominant quality. Also good.
Now you really must stress, just then, that this extension is the b7, not the NATURAL 7 with respect to this V chord. That "MINOR SEVENTH" interval against the root of a chord is why we call out "dominant seventh" not just the seventh of the natural key.
The b7 interval on the "dominant V chord" is a WHOLE TONE below the V interval which turns out to be the IV against the root key.. That's an enharmonic note. But it does want to resolve to the root.
the simpliest explaination! THANKS!
I was bored tonight, and decided to study up some music theory (yes I’m a dork) and man I’m a guitar player, not even a pianist, but you’re videos have gave me so much insight and perspective on ways to improve and spice up my songs so much!! These videos are amazing man keep up the good work I’ll definitely be subscribing
Let’s all be dorks together! Thanks Logan, I really appreciate your comment and pleased you’ve been finding some value in my videos. 👍🏼
This was useful...!
I have used secondary dominants on my guitar in my songs and also watched many videos to understand, but now i think i understand the concept.
Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
You are my hero Michael. Thanks to you and your videos, I have found answers to some of the questions I have always had.
I love how you explain the theory, and then you give us few examples. Writing the chords on the screen is also very very helpful.
Thanks for doing all these.
Ah, thanks Behzad! I really appreciate your kind comment. It's great to hear that you're finding the videos to be really useful. Thank you for leaving a comment 🙏
I learned a lot in this, my first "encountering" segment. Very clear. I'll make good use of your teaching. THANK YOU
Thanks for the nice comment 🙏
I’m glad you found some useful stuff in there. 👍🏼
Michael, your video tutorials are on another level!! Pacing, visuals, sound, and the clarity you bring to concepts are a rare find! Definitely subscribed and I hope you keep putting these out. Much appreciated!!!
Thanks Helmut! I really appreciate your kind comment and I’m super pleased that you’re enjoying what I’m putting out, thanks 🙏
Glad I came across your channel, certainly one of the best music theory channels out there.
Ah, thanks, that's very kind. I'm glad you're here too!
the interludes work well for refreshing my “tonality” palette. (thanks for those)
😂 Awesome, that’s a great way to think of them. When I’m editing I sometimes think ‘man, that’s a lot of talking/information, a bit of noodling will break this up!’
Thanks for watching. 👍🏼
This is the best secondary dominant lesson I’ve watched. Subscribed!
Ah, cheers Chris, glad you enjoyed the video and I appreciate the sub and the kind comment 🙏
Superb video, thank you. It has a great mix of background for the concept vs clearly explaining more detail. Helped me to better understand the detail and practical use.
Cheers for your kind comment Ryan, I really appreciate it. Glad you got something out of it. 👍🏼
Secondary dominant chord demystified, great explanation, helpful. Thank you
You are very welcome Benjamin, really pleased the video was useful! Thanks for the comment
That’s a method that makes sense. Some throw fancy without practical approach. Not here. Good work mate, loaded.
Ah, cheers. I’m glad you found some value in there. Thanks for the nice comment 🙏
This guy could talk over any subject and I’d watch the whole video. It’s almost meditative…
Ha! That’s good to hear 😂
Lucky for you I’ve got a few other videos you can binge and plan to keep making more!!
Very inspiring and extremely well explained. Thanks.
Ah, thanks for your kind comment Frank, super pleased you found it inspiring! Good luck playing around with some of those ideas! 🎹🎵👍🏼
So interesting and clear, thank you Michael.
Ah cheers. Thanks for the comment, appreciate you watching. 🙏
It made me so easy to understand it .. Probably the best explanation..Love From India ❤❤
Ah, thanks man, appreciate your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for sharing the love 🙏
omg this was amazing, thank u so much!
Thanks for the comment! I'm glad you found the video useful. 👍
Another excellent lesson! Thanks
Cheers Dave, appreciate the comment. 👍🏼
That was an excellent explanation, thank you!!!
Cheers Brian, hope it was helpful!
Great video again! Thanks ❤
🙏 Cheers mate.
Thank you ❤
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching! 👍🏼
Very clear and straight to the point. Your videos are über great. Thank you!
Cheers Remy, really appreciate your kind comment 🙏 Glad you're enjoying the videos! 👍
Thanks michael..im learn à lot❤
Crystal clear as usual esp re practical applications... often overlooked ....so great to hear & see some of your approaches... much appreciated ! Once you get the various voicings embodied these are super versatile so well worth the practice time
Ah cheers man, I appreciate your comment. Glad you enjoyed it.
Man perfectly explained🤯 amazing concept i didnt know i needed
Thanks for the comment! Glad you enjoyed it!
Very well explained Thx somuch for sharing.
You’re very welcome! Thanks for the comment, hope it was useful. 👍🏼
Thank you. Have been using this to lead to the dominant of the tonic in the A section.
Thanks for the comment. Hope the video's been useful!
Great explanation man, straight to the point and easy to follow. This has been super useful to me, thanks a lot!
Thanks Alex! 🙏
Wonderful. Explained very clearly. Thanks
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Appreciate the comment, thanks 🙏
Hi can you do a video explaining 7th chords and play cycle of fifths using them
Hi Michael, I thoroughly enjoy your videos. I'm on a safari to try and understand harmony beyond the simple 3 note chord so I can apply it to my beginner acoustic guitar playing. The detailed explanation for each part with examples of everything is brilliant. And as someone else commented, the visual effects are perfect. The pacing of the material is also thoughtful and makes what you're saying very compelling. Thanks for all the hard work you have put into this series. Cheers, Richard.
Thank you 🙏
I really appreciate your kind words and really glad you’re finding the videos useful.
Thanks for taking the time to comment 👍🏼
Great video! I will definitely be subscribing
Thanks and welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thank you. I'm starting to get it. Working through Keith Snells' "Fundamentals of Piano Theory". In book 7 and 8....this topic has stumped me.
Thanks for the comment Corky, hopefully it was helpful. Good luck on your music learning quest!
Really good information, thanks v. Much
Cheers, glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment. 👍
Isn't it amazing how this works. That is why the Circle of Fifths is one of my favorite tools. Great video Michael. Thanks for the refresher.
Thanks for the comment Bill and thanks for watching 👍🏼
Finally an explanation even I understand. Thank you.
You’re welcome Vit, thanks for watching. 🙏
FINALLY, I GET IT!! the use of the yellow lettered illustration along w/the keyboard made referencing his explanations MUCH easier. Now I can listen to a song and deconstruct what the chords and chord progressions are in a given song, and how to make mundane basic lame progressions into beautiful passages. Thank you Mr. Keithson!
Awesome! Really pleased the video was useful. Thanks for the nice comment, I appreciate it 🙏
I stumbled upon your channel a couple of months back. Your teaching and video technique is exceptional. The ‘Diminished Chords - Why they’re the best!’ hooked me. Now I’m working through the info in this ‘Secondary Dominant chords’ video, translating what you reveal into my bass guitar theory and practice. Perhaps in my next life I will find time to learn the piano. I hope one day you make a video on ‘suspended’ chords and demystify their place in composition.
Ah, thanks for the kind comment! It’s great to hear you’re getting some value from my videos. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, I appreciate it. 👍🏼
AWESOME! THANKS
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching.
You know how you learn something, then don't use it for years (decades?!) and the knowledge just sort of evaporates? I know I spent a semester or year of college music theory on this topic, probably in relation to Bach chorales of course. I had forgotten almost all of it. This was an incredible refresher, and arguably better presented than all that chalkboard/piano stuff I immediately brain-dumped in the late '90s! :D
Ha! Happy to refresh your memory! Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
Thank thank you so much sir ji for your valuable video ❤❤❤❤❤
Great to see that you're enjoying the videos, thanks for watching!
I can't explain your explanations, I love it! Sir I have seen your video on Modal interchange, to understand even more can you make a video on how to build all minor scales(harmonic,natural,relative,melodic...I don't know all of them) and a short way(easy to make or memorizable way) to use modal interchange if there is?
Awesome. Subscribed
Thank you and welcome!!
Great video.
Cheers man! 🙏
Nice time!
Thank you. Liked and subscribed.
Welcome aboard Michael! Thanks for being here. 👍🏼🎹🎵
👍 👏👏👏👏👏 u da man for explaining these things
Cheers Bradford! Thanks for watching and commenting, hope the videos of been useful!
Please make a video of diatonic chords all of them if possible 🙏 ❤️
Hey Joshua! Thanks for watching.
Diatonic chords are simply the chords that are made up of the notes in the key of the song. So if a song is in C major all the diatonic chords would be C Dm Em F G Am Bdim. I go into a bit more detail on this in my video ‘How to improvise on the piano’, there might be some useful bits in there. 👍🏼
You’re a great teacher 🧑🏫
Thanks for the kind comment 🙏
This video needs way more views!!!!!!!
Thanks man, glad you're enjoying the content. Thanks for the comment and support, it's much appreciated.
Excellence. TH-cam used at its best. Thanks!!!
Ah, thanks Kevin, appreciate your kind words 🙏
I make it a point to watch each of your videos at least thrice. Although I'm nowhere near understanding all the concepts you discuss, I hope to one day be at least 1/4th as good as you are.
Ah Jezreel! Thanks for keeping the watch count climbing! I appreciate your persistence!
Are there specific topics that you think would be more suited to where you’re at?
@@michaelkeithson I'm such a novice that I don't even know what to ask for. Circle of fifths is something that I keep hearing about. But I can't quite grasp the concept.
@@jezdan1 Don’t get bogged down with the circle of fifths, I’m not a fan. I think it’s something you should memorise week one of music theory and then never need to talk about again.
In my opinion and experience you should appreciate the strong relationships between 5ths, you’ll see them appear a lot in music. And use the circle to memorise the different keys, how many sharps or flats they have and what they are. Im sure that once you have the sequence memorised there’s not much more required from it.
Other people might disagree though! 😬
is the reharm tutorial coming soon? hehe love your vids🙏
Ha! I don’t do that much reharming but was thinking about doing a video about harmonising a melody and how many different approaches you can have. I need to work out how it’ll go together first.
Cheers for watching and thanks for the comment! 👍🏼
yeaa another killer video
Cheers man, appreciate it. 👍🏼
Interessante Maestro
Grazie mille
Ciao dall'Italia.
You are very welcome, I hope the video was useful!
When putting the third in the bass it sounds a bit uneven to double the “leading tone” within the secondary dominant function so if it’s in the bass I always avoid having it anywhere else in my voicing
I had no idea that you could stack secondary dominant chords or simply substitute in this way...nice.
Glad you found something useful in there!
Bro you get it! I just uploaded a video about this yesterday too! (Not advertising myself lol) But this video was excellent, amazing hearing your explanation!
Love your setup as well! What camera do you use? And what editing software?
Ah cheers man, appreciate it!
I’m using a Sony a6500 and final cut nothing fancy but I’ve got experience in video production. It’s really all about the lighting and how you position things.
Checked out your channel too, you know what talking about mate, nice playing too. Good luck with the channel 👍🏼
@@michaelkeithson I see, yeah I need to work on my setup and get a new computer lol Best to your channel as well! Looking forward to learning some things from you!
Thanks, man. That clicked for me.
You’re welcome! I’m glad is was helpful 👍🏼
Hmmm some reason lm suddenly in a new York state of mind
bless you michael you just saved my ass
I’m intrigued, why has my video on secondary dominants saved your ass? Please elaborate! 😂
@@michaelkeithson i had an exam yesterday and your explanation was my way to success! thank you so much, and have a lovely weekend!!
@@camilameyer677Ah, that makes sense. Happy to be of assistance! 😁
Hope it all went well.
Hi Michael, I'm curious what did you do at 07:49 when playing the C chord? I'm a beginner and I'm learning ways to prolong a chord/stay on one chord for a while in interesting ways. I know about sus2 and sus4 but at 07:49 it looks like you did a sus4 in the higher octave and "sus6" on the lower octave, and then resolved to G on both octaves. Sound awesome.
Do you have videos about this topic that you can point me to or if not, maybe interest in making one? ;) Thanks!
Hey man, it is some sort of sus thing where I keep the root note at the top and bottom and move the 3rd and 5th around together, separated by the interval of a 6th. I made a short about that as few months ago:
th-cam.com/users/shortsHuXMpZdgRtw?feature=share
Good luck and thanks for watching! 🎹👍🏼
This is very baptist traditional gospel sounding huh.
Michael if you haven't done so, could you please explain what's happening when we use a minor 4? Eg 1 5 4 to minor 4 back to 1.
Hey man, the minor 4 is an example of modal interchange, you're borrowing from the parallel minor key. I mention it in my video on Modal Interchange. Check it out. 👍
Can you use other types of chords as secondary dominants?
2 E9 B D Gb Ab =SD
E 9 Aug 5 Ab C D Gb =SD
E9 Flat 5 Ab Bb D Gb =SD
5 A7 A Db E G
1 DM7 A Db D Gb
Hey Jazr, thanks for the comment. It's all about context really and if you like it. In a pop or singer-songwriter setting you'd tend to keep it very simple and plain but in a jazz setting for example you might be more inclined to add some alterations. Although, even within jazz a secondary dominant tends not to be fully altered, most commonly, if it has some alterations, it'll be 7b9 or 7#11.
Your first example of a simple 9 chord would be fine in most settings, the second not really, the third is the same as a 7#11 so that would be fine.
But really, at the end of the day, it's whether you feel it's appropriate for the setting and if you like it.
@@michaelkeithson Thank you very much.
But what about the chord sequence: C, C7, F6, F7, C, G, C?
12-bar blues often adds a minor 7th onto the 4-chord (or the subdominant) of the main scale.
Cheers for your comment. Good question! In my opinion the F7, the IV chord of a blues, isn’t functioning as a secondary dominant due to the absence of the resolution to the tonic. I don’t think every non-diatonic 7 chord is a secondary dominant. To me, the characteristics or function of a secondary dominant is to accentuate the movement to the next chord, creating a V-I, and making it feel like a resolution to the target chord even though it’s not the tonic. Does that make sense?!
I think blues is an unusual framing because it’s not standard to a lot of other theoretical harmony. What key is it even if if the tonic chord is a dominant 7?! You’ve got the cogs turning in my head about blues theory! 👍🏼🎹🎵
Thanks. I forgot to give examples of songs where the subdominant of the major scale is a "dominant 7th" chord. These are:
"Chantilly lace" by Jerry Lee Lewis, where you'll hear the string section bow a C7 that clearly resolves back to G maj before going to the next line of music;
"Goin' up the country" by Canned Heat, where you'll hear Eb7 resolve back to Bb major;
"Everything's alright" by Joe Cocker, where the piano often plays F7 in a sort of arpeggio, particularly during its instrument break.
Do you have perfect pitch?
No I don't, but I often wish I did! I love your handle and that you're commenting on this video! Have you seen my video 'what's so special about dominant 7 chords?'?! I think you might be the perfect audience 😂.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏻
Thank you man really appreciate your content, simple and clear. Keep going!
What happened to the audio. on left side the piano was hearable but on the right side nothing
Apologies, I hadn't realised there was a problem when I was editing on my computer, I've just listened through headphones and can hear what you're talking about. Sorry. Hopefully there's enough there to get the gist of what's going on.
@@michaelkeithson yeah i scale through 👍 👍
Or to save you 12 minutes of your life... any 7 chord leads your ear to want to hear a major chord a 4th interval higher or a 5th interval lower. You're welcome. :)
*or a minor chord 😉
Thanks for the summary.
I have a friend in Taiwan who is having difficulty expressing the importance of secondary dominant chords to piano players. He said that they wouldn't understand this video. Is there a way to make it easier for those piano murderers?
Hey Jack! I wouldn't necessarily say that they're 'important' but can be really useful and interesting to add to compositions. They do create a certain 'sound' or 'feel' so if those people inTaiwan aren't a fan of the sound, there's no need to use them. My suggestion would probably be to find a bunch of popular songs that use them so they can see/hear the value or use of them in songs that they know, then they may appreciate them a little more. They may even see that they've been using them for years anyway! Hope that helps!
Ummm this was like a "Let's get naked" nothing to hide or pretense. Total demystification of elaborate (seeming) progressions by TH-cams most celebrated ornamentalists. I now not only know that subD can be tossed in the salad practically anywhere but they do not require a rigid key obedience an embroidery.
Brilliant! Love that description! Thanks for watching. 👍🏼
Great content. The piano level is too far below the voice in my opinion. I strain to hear it.
Thanks Dan, sorry about the audio, the levels seemed to fine on my computer. I’ll double check next time. 👍🏼
Thank you!
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching.
Wow... I just had an epiphany watching this and your tritone substitution video!
Thanks!!!
Awesome! Great to hear. Thanks for watching, I’m glad you’re getting some value from the videos 👍🏼