LeBlond Lathe Restoration - Part 2: Carriage Disassembly

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  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm always grateful to those engineers who design things with the expectation that they'll never have to be serviced, so they can't be disassembled.
    (Snap joints on plastic housings and cases are an especial pain -- the little hooks always break when you try to pry open the case with a screw driver.)

  • @randallparker8477
    @randallparker8477 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a young US Navy sailor one of my duties on my first ship was to help 2 machinists from our Machinery repair shop, tear down "to parade rest" A Leblond and an Atlas lathe... one had an 18" swing and one was a gap bed... don't remember which was which, but they were totally torn down, inspected, bead blasted, new bearings etc. I helped them with scraping the ways and learned a lot during the 3 month repair yard/ drydock time. I got to paint both as they were finished, Navy Machinery Gray of course. I envy your endeavor but glad I don't have to do it now at my age. It seemed back then that every part was so heavy, even for a young strapping man like myself. Thanks for sharing Keith, it looks like you are having fun.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Randall - it is a lot of work, but it is work I enjoy!

  • @Thunderstixx77
    @Thunderstixx77 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are absolutely right about the pictures Keith. I had a Harley that I took apart without pics...
    It was before the advent of electronic cameras so it really wasn't a big thing back then.
    It took about a year and a half to get it back together.
    But, boy was she pretty when I got her done !!!
    Great job Keith. You're a great guy to listen to.
    Thanks for posting this.

  • @charlescompton4495
    @charlescompton4495 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen on the pictures! When teaching students how to build a fireplace, it was impossible to get them all at one time around a demo but with pictures, they could understand better what was going on. Videos would have been even better in my case and well, you got em! Greg

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is very nice that I have video of the things coming apart. I bet I watch my own videos a few times when it all goes back together.....

  • @raincoast2396
    @raincoast2396 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No grass grows under your feet Keith! Wow! Like the ever ready bunny.
    Glad you took some time for yourself and your daughter.
    Its good to pause now and again to smell the flowers and reflect. Cheers.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The past few weeks, I seem to be working from sunup to sundown. Just wish I could put a few more shop hours in during the day - it has been hard here lately....

  • @TreeTop1947
    @TreeTop1947 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith, I'm a retired machinist and I really enjoy watching your various videos.
    I'm in the process of restoring a 16"x 72" Carroll-Jamieson lathe right now. After 4 back surgeries, I have found a new friend, from Harbor Freight. It's a 2 1/2 ton portable engine hoist. It would have been perfect for removing the tail stock, saddle and apron on this old LeBlonde lathe. I love "old American iron" but it is heavy!
    I look forward to the next video. Tree Top

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holding out for a gantry crane!

    • @TreeTop1947
      @TreeTop1947 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that would be a really nice addition to your shop! TreeTop

  • @johnmacdougall4170
    @johnmacdougall4170 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kieth, I don't know what I admire more ... your mechanical aptitude or your patience :) ... In any event, great video, appreciate the series !

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU...for sharing. What a great feeling it is to be out in the new shop working on a new project.

  • @juanrivero8
    @juanrivero8 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    A priceless video for those who are doiing LeBlond lathe restorations. Lots of South Bend stuff out there, but few if any LeBlonds. To your advice on taking photos galore I would add: go to the grocery store, buy a zillion zip-loc bags and a sharpie. As you take off a screw, bolt, nut, pin, or whatever, put it in the a zip-loc and label it with its origin. Watch Brad Jacobs (Basement Shop guy) videos, see how he does it. Otherwise you will get into the "where does this screw go?" hell. I learned this the hard way when I was rebuilding a roto-tiller, and I had the parts manual at hand.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do a lot of "bagging and tagging" as well!

  • @calraines6931
    @calraines6931 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This takes me back to my years running machines at Dresser. Machine Repair guys were fantastic at sorting out the problem and getting you back running. Considering the huge number of assorted metal working machines, that crew, and the wire twisters were tops.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am sure those guys could teach us all a few tricks!

  • @carver3419
    @carver3419 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whew! That has you exercising your brain as well as your muscles. This looks like it will be an exciting and enjoyable series.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trying to figure out how to get some of this stuff apart can be quite challenging....

  • @randyhendrick3060
    @randyhendrick3060 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was polishing the brass on the wicks on my lathe and i just walked in from my shop and thought it would be nice to see a video of a lathe rebuild.

  • @mrbluenun
    @mrbluenun 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Keith,
    Really REALLY terrific video, I loved to strip down the machines at work which were old school like yours.

  • @RoelTyros
    @RoelTyros 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Keith,
    Most of the time I've seen you making things with the lathe and it is great that you now show the inside of it. Knowing the inside and how all the gears and the mechanics works explains much more about the way it works.
    Maybe you know or didn't know but I'm building computers and repair them for a long time, not professionally but only for hobby. But most of the people don't know what is inside a pc and it is good that they know more about the inside just like machinery.
    Anyway, I am looking forward to the next one and can't wait for it when you have cleaned all the parts en painted them. What I can see seems to me that the lathe is in very good shape for such an old machine.
    Many greetings from Roel !

  • @jmh8743
    @jmh8743 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith, thank you for taking time for video. I have a new machine i have to remove apron and carriage for repair. As a side thought, even today that is a great machine; however, when it was new very few of us could have bought it. I concur with others, build a rolling crane.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      A rolling gantry crane is on my list. I even have the plans for it. Just need the time and money to build it and right now, it is not at the top of the list when it comes to prioritizing where I spend my money in the new shop. We will get there, but it will be a while....

  • @rickl.orchids
    @rickl.orchids 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    .......what a difference just cleaning old oil and dirt off those sliding parts is going to make! Really its all about the cleaning, nice progress Mr Rucker........no better way to get to know the machine than to tear it apart, clean it, pain it, and reassemble it.....cant wait to see it make its first chips..........

  • @charliewiard6813
    @charliewiard6813 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used a engine lift on my lathe. I took it apart like you.Going back was a bird of another color. Lining up all the rods was almost without the lift. Enjoyed the video.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suspect that putting it all back together will prove to have its challenges along the way. It usually does....

  • @TODDFINK1
    @TODDFINK1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! When i tore my logan down for cleaning it was a chore. I didn't do any paint just old grease and dirt removal, and a few new parts. It still took me 3 months doing it here and there.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is a lot of work, no matter what brand lathe it is.....

  • @EVguru
    @EVguru 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Keith,
    Many larger lathes have a telescopic leadscrew arrangement for taper turning. It means you can still put a cut on with the cross-slide rather than having to swing the compound round.
    On my Harrison L5 it's a splined shaft arrangement, rather than a simple key. My lathe is from a school and they would have been required to do a Metric upgrade. The compound has a metric dial and leadscrew (which is still 1/2" diameter), whilst the cross-slide still has the Imperial leadscrew, but with a Metric dial fitted!
    I checked the price of a Metric telescopic leadscrew and it was something like £750 (nothing is inexpensive from the 600 Group)!

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mechanical detective work. It is an intriguing puzzle.

  • @davidsample9130
    @davidsample9130 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kieth..an engine crane for cars...handy for handling stuff, easy on the back too! nice videos just started watching, very enjoyable.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You'll never go far wrong, following Keith's advice.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have a lot of confidence in me. Maybe more than I deserve.....

  • @MrPragmaticLee
    @MrPragmaticLee 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in pain seeing you on your knees, but very much relieved to see the knee pads in a later shot. Also, you need more stuff in that new shop, there's an echo now when you drop something. 😀 Great video, enjoying the tear down & looking forward to the restoration & reassembly.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The insulation that I am wanting to get installed will help a lot with the echo. Trying to save my money.....

  • @rtind2009
    @rtind2009 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed watching you work on the lathe. Thank you for the video of the apron gears it is much plainer as to how it works and how the power transfer works now. I would also like to see how the power is transfered on and off the drive shaft. Again THANK YOU you have made my day much more enjoyable, Keith.

  • @DrewLSsix
    @DrewLSsix 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    something I picked up rebuilding transmissions is keeping fasteners and related assemblies together when tearing something down.
    not only does it allow you to take the job in smaller simpler bites but because you put that screw right back where it came from and that stack of parts was put right back in order and orientation you dont have to worry about remembering every single part in each sub assembly.
    then when you get atound to each sub assembly you do your work in one go amd finish with it back together, even if you will need to pull it apart again during final assembly.

  • @alexandernoelturner725
    @alexandernoelturner725 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The parts that you have removed all look to be in very good condition, considering it's age you might have got yourself a little gem of a lathe providing no surprises down the track

  • @imysteryman
    @imysteryman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was taking apart a Leblond lathe about 30 years ago and when I got to the quick change gear box I ran into two nuts that I removed like any one would think they should do to get something apart. I studied it and studied it and I could not figure out how they got the bolts in it because they were inline with the input shaft. Well to make a long story short I would up getting it apart after I drilled what I thought was bolts out. I had never scene a threaded taper pin before and now I know all I had to do was instead of taking the nut off; tighten the nut and it would have pulled the pin out. I learned a valuable lesson, #1 you are not allowed to brake anything working on machinery, #2 they put machinery together differently back then so if you get stumped find an old timer and do some asking so you don't brake anything.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have learned a lot of tricks through the school of hard knocks....

  • @exportedafrican
    @exportedafrican 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did this on my Storebro. My video isn't as elegant but the process was almost identical! Great video!

  • @jaywest4102
    @jaywest4102 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate you sharing this project with us.
    Fun and informative.

  • @mejinks1978
    @mejinks1978 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Keith. Its always great to watch your videos.

  • @robgerrits4097
    @robgerrits4097 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Keith, Yes, the French do it in there own way. Lathes, cars, coffee machines, whatever! Unexpected bits of machining. Takes some time to fiddle it all out. You are very right to take pictures of every step of the de-assembling. A nice color would be a dark blue from Hammerite.
    Easy to brush on and it contrasts very nice with the left bare metal. Also oil resistant. But that choice is up to you. Big job at hand, lots of work to do besides all the work you still have to do.
    Thanks for sharing it with us!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rob - one vote for hammerite blue...

    • @robgerrits4097
      @robgerrits4097 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also a nice color with all the fine woodwork of the shop. :)

  • @MrUbiquitousTech
    @MrUbiquitousTech 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work Keith, that LeBlond looks to be exceptionally well made!
    I jumped as high as you did when that dog screeched!

  • @Patriot1776
    @Patriot1776 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely wonderful to watch Keith! I don't have a lathe, don't know if I ever will manage to get one, but being the wannabe engineer that I am, I have really wondered how one of these big lathes tick and you're showing the current and next generation juicy info. ^^
    After seeing how that cross-slide nut came out, hoo boy, that nut looks like its going to be FUN to get it back in place if the saddle has to go back onto the machine first! Hmm...thinking back right after watching the video, I'm speculating that you may need to fully reassemble the cross-slide and saddle OFF the machine first, then bring in a burly jib crane for picking up the entire cross-slide and saddle assembly together for lowering back onto the ways. That just sounds to me personally the best way to avoid trying to figure out how to drive the cross-slide nut back into place from the bottom, saddle and slide on the machine... @__@

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, it won't go back together any other way than how I took it apart. I have ideas on how to get the nut in there, but I won't know if I have to go to plan B until the time comes...

  • @gunterschone8402
    @gunterschone8402 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful video, Keith.
    Because you still have a lot of work to do when the lathe is completely revised.

  • @PhilsProjects
    @PhilsProjects 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm about to replace the bed on my Graziano, Your timing could not be better.
    Thanks Keith

  • @ronicard
    @ronicard 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really loving this lathe restoration series. Great video, Keith

  • @MattsMotorz
    @MattsMotorz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Vice grips have saved me ass more times than I can count.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that is true for the majority of us....

  • @CornishMiner
    @CornishMiner 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoying this series.

  • @robroiboi
    @robroiboi 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual, very informative; very interesting; very entertaining. Thanks Keith

  • @kleinerbub84
    @kleinerbub84 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey Keith! Get some lifting equipment and place the Lathe on a set of thick rubber pieces. like from tyre. Place them in a way, that the headstock end is supported at the front and back. The tailstock-end should sit on a center-orientated piece of rubber. So you have the load distributed in a ( not ideal) triangle and the ways are able to twist themselves back. Especially the lathe suffers from standing unbalanced on a not that flat surface.
    I did that with my lathe from around WW2 and the twist of ways came back over a few weeks. Think of it :) Keep your nice work up and stay healthy. Greetings from overseas

  • @exilfromsanity
    @exilfromsanity 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, are a very busy man, between the new shop, the new machines, the museum, the foundry furnace, a full time job, and a family you have a lot of irons in the fire!
    Thanks for the video and the advice on taking pictures. I know you could get more done if you weren't taking the time to share with us.
    I'm sure the lathe will be much more pleasant to use when cleaned up, repainted, and looking good. Glad to hear there are no serious mechanical issues.
    May I suggest Machinery Gray as a color to paint it?
    Best wishes and good luck on all of your endeavors!
    Keith H.

  • @elliottmarksy
    @elliottmarksy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Keith, very excited about this series! i vote for black

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      One vote for black recorded. Of course, my final decision over rules all previous votes.....

  • @mfletch392
    @mfletch392 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video Keith I just love stripping machines down and clean adjust and make new if needed

  • @JunkMikesWorld
    @JunkMikesWorld 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good start!
    I look forward to the next installment.
    All the best!
    Mike

  • @austinwagoncompany
    @austinwagoncompany 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking forward to this all week. my antique south bend has a lot of neglect in the cleaning dept. and I have been wanting to take the apron off and clean it and paint it but I was afraid that the big long screw was a touchy area and was leary of taking the bracket off the end. Basically I am doing to it what you are doing to yours, in this oklahoma heat and humidity....so I feel you there. thanks for doing this video series, it is timed perfectly.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have no shortage of heat and humidity down here in South Georgia either!

  • @TheMarcball
    @TheMarcball 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful and inspiring work, Keith.
    Looking forward to the next steps...
    I'm about to attack my recently acquired French-built 1950s Delta 14" wood and metal bandsaw. I'll go slow and try to document the process, more soon...
    Thanks and
    Keep on trucking ! (from France)

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty involved I'd say. Lots O parts and pieces. I do hope you're going to paint over that hideous blue! Thanks for the video Keith.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The blue will soon only be a bad memory.....

    • @63256325N
      @63256325N 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very good! LOL Good luck with the restore.

  • @cemx86
    @cemx86 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your comments about taking lots of pre-disassembly is RIGHT ON. Save my bacon many a time. Before, during and after (so you can admire your skill). Also, work on one components (i.e carriage, tail stock, etc) at a time. If you are doing a total breakdown put components related to a particular part into its only container. One last through is that what is a same-size-but-too-long bolt can do a world of damage when shoved into the wrong hole - so if possible after removing a part put the bolt(s) back in the hole they came from.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pictures are key! I also like to put my parts together to help when putting them back. This will be a "one piece at a time" restoration....

  • @johnswimcat
    @johnswimcat 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video. So many of the same problems I faced with my old Colchester (Clausing)

  • @one4stevo
    @one4stevo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Keith . You need a Hydraulic Trolley Lifter. saves your back. Great job

  • @rickl.orchids
    @rickl.orchids 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    .....this would be a good time for that shop crane to make an appearance......

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I already had my gantry built....

  • @marcopolo6590
    @marcopolo6590 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Keith for this very interesting video
    It is a great satisfaction to watch you work.
    you are very clever
    Marco from Italy

  • @specialks1953
    @specialks1953 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just went totally through (every! piece) an Atlas 10" from 1945-46 and He is totally correct about taking pictures and take pictures EVERY STEP of the way taking it apart. You think you will remember but you will not remember enough.

  • @HaraldFinster
    @HaraldFinster 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most probably you already figured it out, but anyways: you can pull these alignment pins out by actually tightening the screws. I had the same problem when I restored my milling machine and it took me a while to figure this out, because it doesn't sound logical that you have to tighten a screw instead of loosening it during disassembly.
    I wish you all the best for your project and hope you will find the time to keep filming it.
    Many thanks
    Harald

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure which ones you are talking about, but I have ran into that before as well.

    • @HaraldFinster
      @HaraldFinster 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      please accept my apologies. My comment wasn't quite clear. I am referring to the bolts with the hex nuts seen at 23:30. You loosen the hex bolts, but I suppose you could have pulled out these bolts by tightening the nuts at this point.

  • @Patricksworkshop
    @Patricksworkshop 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow that's going to be a chore cleaning all them parts great video Keith I can't wait for more keep up the good work

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A chore indeed, but that is what it takes to do the job right!

  • @dinxsy8069
    @dinxsy8069 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A pleasure to watch as usual.

  • @colin8653
    @colin8653 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that is a very well made lath you could do with a cherry picker to help you lift some of the components or you could end up giving yourself a hernia so take your time but i am enjoying the process.
    i think with all of the adjustments there ore on that lath it will be just like new after you make all of the adjustments and tighten things up good video Keith

  • @infoanorexic
    @infoanorexic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Taking pictures along the way is a great idea, but, if you grew up and spent half your adult life working on stuff before digital cameras became common, you tend to forget that you have that option until you are well into the job. :-)

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who has shot a lot of pictures on film, I know what you are talking about.

  • @josephmagedanz4070
    @josephmagedanz4070 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Keith,
    I agree with you on taking a ton of pictures before you start and as you go. Of course, you now have a bunch of video to go back to if you need to.
    A lot of work, but don't forget to have fun, too.
    Joe
    PS From my experience working on my lathe, I think you got lucky getting those taper pins out so (relatively) easily.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will be nice to have the video for sure!

  • @geneelliott3230
    @geneelliott3230 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like that will keep your mind off the insulation and other tasks for a spell, Once finished you should have a very nice lathe to use in your shop!Cheers

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, my mind is on the insulation every time I am out there in the shop sweating.....

  • @Making
    @Making 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am just about to start reassembling my LeBlond after 6 months of scrubbing every last part to bare metal and painting it all back, fixing all that needed fixing... I really wish I had found this before. I didn't take enough pictures.

  • @JackHoying
    @JackHoying 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had that same issue when pulling the taper attachment from my Cincinnati. (except yours is on a larger scale!) Great advise to the viewers on stepping back and thinking about it before going after a bigger hammer!!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have made the "bigger hammer" mistake too many times in my life. Sometimes, that is what is needed, others, it just causes you a lot more work than it saves.....

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My knees are shot but I make myself bend at the knees. I'm 48 now and my knee still ache but my back is good. So glad I did what the old guys told me to.

  • @jeffreypfeifer862
    @jeffreypfeifer862 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice progress Keith!

  • @dougbourdo2589
    @dougbourdo2589 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those tapered pins coming out looked like a "Hallelujah" moment. Maybe if the lower body of the lathe blue cleans up, it could remain ? Agreed on the Gantry issue. If I ever needed a gantry, I would copy Keith Fenner's. Great adjustability. His press also. That LaBlond is going to be awesome when completed.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen on the gantry. I can't wait to build one....

  • @vajake1
    @vajake1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Keith, you need to get you one of those in expensive "cherry pickers" or "engine hoists" to pick up that heavy iron. I wish that I lived close by. I'd come and give you a hand just for the pleasure of your company!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am going to hold out for a real gantry crane. That is the tool I need rather than a stop gap tool like an engine hoist.

    • @vajake1
      @vajake1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't hurt your back or your hands while you are holding out!

  • @waynemurphy7394
    @waynemurphy7394 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking forward to having you show how the taper attachment works.

  • @atbglenn
    @atbglenn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith, great video. I'd be careful lifting those heavy parts. You don't want to end up with back problems.

  • @TheducksOrg
    @TheducksOrg 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this video and thought "I can't wait to see it finished" .. then saw it was posted friday.. lol, subscribing to see it finished one day :)

  • @ChrisB257
    @ChrisB257 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have quite a job on your hands!
    My own back is shot - that tail stock is heavy and you didn't use your legs getting it to the floor - be careful Keith.
    Some cleaning up sure needed but it'll be worth it... some hours ahead and some challenges too! Ain't vise grips handy! Reassembly will be fun!
    Some awkward bits can be considered when trying to get to sleep and resolved, eventually.:)

  • @rolliekelly6783
    @rolliekelly6783 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keith, I too, thought of an engine hoist when you were struggling with those awkward parts. It will be even more handy when you start going together.
    For your edification: that block of wood you used on the lead screw hanger is properly called a "cellulose drift". (;

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rollie - looking forward to the break next weekend at Stans!

  • @andyknowlton7807
    @andyknowlton7807 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried and tried to get the apron apart on my LeBlond lathe. You made that look way to easy.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should have asked me to come and help! I bet yours is different though.....

    • @andyknowlton7807
      @andyknowlton7807 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I think you did come and look at it. It seems mine has a dowel pin that I guess is just stuck really well.

  • @AlbosNoggins
    @AlbosNoggins 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That perfect excuse to make a shop gantry :-) Thanks for sharing Keith

  • @arkansas1313
    @arkansas1313 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoying the tear down. Success so far, job is looking good!
    ....13

  • @ScottandTera
    @ScottandTera 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice job. my phone has saved me quite a few times when taking something apart or seeing if it went back together right. have fun

  • @roberthorner8494
    @roberthorner8494 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    KEITH,
    JUST A THOUGHT. A ENGINE LIFT WOULD WORK GREAT ON YOUR FLOOR, AND COULD SAVE YOUR BACK. THEY AREN'T VERY EXPENSIVE. GREAT VIDEO. THANKS

  • @davidhoward2237
    @davidhoward2237 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant wait till part 3

    • @davidhoward2237
      @davidhoward2237 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also as someone with chronic pain be careful about lifting stuff. all it take is one wrong move and you screwed for life

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Part 3 coming next Friday!

  • @wnebergall
    @wnebergall 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hey Keith nice job I would recommend getting a 2-ton engine hoist from Harbor Freight that makes it a lot easier when you're by yourself trying to wrestle with them big parts and since you got that nice cement floor and a large space it would probably be best for you

    • @LightAndSportyGuy
      @LightAndSportyGuy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I finally broke down and bought one from Tractor Supply (on sale of course) - not very expensive and I wish I had bought it years ago.

    • @Hotrodelectric
      @Hotrodelectric 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +2 on that. You only have one back, and it's pretty fragile. You can buy a cherry picker that has folding legs, which stores neatly and compactly., and they aren't a lot of money.

    • @PeterWMeek
      @PeterWMeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, an engine hoist is the single operators friend. A movable gantry crane might be better but is way more expensive. (You can always sell the engine hoist if you get a gantry crane later.)

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everybody wants me to get an engine hoist. I am saying NO - that is not what I need - I need a gantry crane. That is what I am going to hold out for.

    • @wnebergall
      @wnebergall 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org nothing wrong with a Gantry crane either I forgot you're rich LOL

  • @Spiderelectron
    @Spiderelectron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! Can't wait to see how this comes along.

  • @billdlv
    @billdlv 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith nice job, looked like it was some hard work and heavy lifting. Glad you got those tapered pins out. Have a look at morgan knokker they make a nice sliding hammer kit with an attachment to connect to the adjustment screw of a pair of vise grips.

  • @larrypardi9143
    @larrypardi9143 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith, get yourself a folding shop crane...I can never seem to find my stepson when I need him. I have a HF folding 2ton and have used it to change hubs on military trucks and to move my Sydney lathe around and put it back together( partly).

  • @howder1951
    @howder1951 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice subject matter Keith, I have always wanted to know what is involved in a Lathe restoration, as I have seen so many beautiful Monarchs that have been brought back to their"glory days". I am sure this series will get even better as it progresses, kudos to you!

  • @gadget73
    @gadget73 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That taper attachment looks pretty similar to the one on my South Bend. On the SB, the tube that runs across the top of the taper attachment is fixed to the attachment right in the middle with a taper pin. If you remove that pin, the whole tube with the screw in it will come loose and slide out of the back. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the L&S is similar. Doesn't matter so much since you got it out, but on the SB if you're trying to put the screw in with it already in the taper attachment, its a giant PITA.
    How that is supposed to work on the South Bend is you bolt up the taper, attachment then stuff the screw through the taper attachment with that tube already in place. Once it gets up to the nut on the cross slide, you screw it in until its where it goes. Once thats finally in, the handle end and the taper pin installs and all is happy. Found all that out after doing it the wrong way 3 times. The L&S parts are probably a lot heavier than a 10" South Bend's parts, so trying to juggle the taper attachment while lining up that feed screw without breaking something would be pretty hard.

    • @gadget73
      @gadget73 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      derp, LeBlond, not L&S.

  • @Francis362003
    @Francis362003 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    And it helps to take pictures while you are taking it part too. From a clock repairer perspective.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree. In my case, I was shooting video, which is even better.....

  • @chadgdry3938
    @chadgdry3938 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    by 2:30, it was clear you need a crane.. keith fenner put one in his shop that looks like it walks just about everywhere in his shop. Your shop is MUCH bigger, so just an example. Something to think about. We don't get any younger, can't lift as much and if we can, it sure hurts a lot longer if we strain something..
    love the videos! keep em coming!

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I am in bad need of a gantry crane. I have plans to build one but it is not yet at the top of the list (but getting closer every day..)

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work Keith , Thumbs up !

  • @chakathewolf
    @chakathewolf 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that nice new pine workbench. Mine used to be that color. :-)

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I built two of those a few weeks ago. A college kid that helps me sometimes wanted to build one for his shop, so we went and bought the materials and built two - he took one home and I kept the other. It makes for a nice basic work table.

  • @PeterWMeek
    @PeterWMeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    From 3/4" plywood, make a "comb" with horizontal slots that will support all four rods/leadscrews at their proper height. If you make the "back" (it will be in front of the rods) of the comb narrow enough you should be able to swivel it into place before removing the bearing block. Set the comb at the end of the rods until the apron is close to the end; then move the comb to the left of the apron to remove the apron the rest of the way. Reverse this for reassembly. (You have already disassembled the apron from the rods, but it may help with reassembly.) The comb will help with aligning the rods for reassembly, and reduce the risk of bending the rods under their own weight and the weight of the apron.

  • @douglasbrown8175
    @douglasbrown8175 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Keith,
    a great video as always. Harbor Freight has a nice gantry set up probably as cheap as building your own unless the steel is available at no cost,check it out on line, I think you'll like it.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will probably build one. The Harbor Freight version is only one ton - I want something that will at least handle two tons....

  • @johnswimcat
    @johnswimcat 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video for me as I am restoring (or at least getting working) a Colchester (Clausing) Triumph

  • @holyblood1
    @holyblood1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wery nice job, be careful and tanks for sharing this nice and interesting restoration work.

  • @machinesmotorcycles5511
    @machinesmotorcycles5511 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keith I think you need a gantry crane or some kind of lift for your new shop . Good start on the lathe . Thanks

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree - a gantry crane is high on my list of things needed for the shop, but it is not at the top right now and money is limited....

  • @gadget73
    @gadget73 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    BTDT with not remembering. I try and take pictures of everything that is more than a "done in the next 5 minutes" type project. Its saved me more than once, and failing to get a pic has caused me no small amount of headache before. Nothing like having to find someone on the internet and beg them to get a picture of something for you.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I have begged people on the internet too......

  • @michaelbabatunde3915
    @michaelbabatunde3915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done, great work.

  • @cesargrimm
    @cesargrimm 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super awesome series!

  • @RyanWeishalla
    @RyanWeishalla 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha. Ha. Sometimes disassembly isn't that easy either...although with my poor memory putting it back together is the real tough task. Good advise on the camera and the video.
    It is good that you are thinking about the gantry (read other comments) so you can think about machine placement/layout for when you do get one. From watching a few of Adam's videos where he is using his, the gantry definitely of more utility. My engine hoist can never get in around the machines or the shop without the legs getting in the way.
    Looking forward to the rest of the restoration/clean-up as you progress.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree on the engine hoist. They are great when they work, but they take up a bunch of room and they are hard to get to where you need them. If the legs of the hoist cannot go under a machine, you cannot position the lifting point above the machine. A gantry is the way to go!

  • @willemweideman3813
    @willemweideman3813 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This I like very much!!
    Keith that lathe will be better than new.
    Willem

  • @tomcop668
    @tomcop668 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you get into the main gear area. We have a 1937 27" Leblond Heavy Duty that had something break loose on the shaft that goes into the clutch.

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I probably won't tear into that area. No reason to since mine appears to all be working just fine.

  • @icondonnied
    @icondonnied 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keith, I really hope you decide to take the paint scheme back to factory colors.. Machinery black is always classic looking....
    Maybe add some pinstripes?

    • @robgerrits4097
      @robgerrits4097 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some flames also?....:)

    • @VintageMachinery
      @VintageMachinery  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have done machines in black many times, but I don't think this one will be one of them.

  • @WillyBemis
    @WillyBemis 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.