Black Hole by Charles Burns! 'nuff said!

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  • @CartoonistKayfabe
    @CartoonistKayfabe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ed's Patreon: www.patreon.com/edpiskor
    Jim's Patreon: www.patreon.com/jimrugg

  • @CrodolookslikeFrody
    @CrodolookslikeFrody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This book is an absolute revelation. To me, it feels like Black Hole was kind of an early pre-cursor to that weird modern “art” horror you see come out of studios like A24.

    • @AleksandarBloom
      @AleksandarBloom ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree very much! Can you name any other precursors as that?

  • @zleepydude224
    @zleepydude224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This book changed my life. I read it as a freshman in highschool and it was terrifying. Same year I saw ghostworld and the crumb documentary making me into the weirdo I am now haha.

    • @redrobotmonkey
      @redrobotmonkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you seen the Fincher short film based on this? They were going to make a movie or series with it. But guess that didn't happen.

  • @jackshaw6793
    @jackshaw6793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One thing to note is Burns' strip "Contagious" in Steve Bissette's Taboo #1 anthology from 1988. I think it's fascinating that he had laid out the concept for Black Hole years before beginning this masterpiece. Charles Burns is in a league of his own.
    Great episode, gentlemen!

  • @knownaigm
    @knownaigm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I totally read this book as an allegory showing that weird awkward existential horror as a kid when you start having sex, trying drugs, becoming an adult and realizing there is no going back to being a "kid" ever again.... in one way it's almost a celebrated freedom of leaving your comforting safe home but in another way it's terrifying because it's new and unknown and there is no undoing it. Reading this totally brought back those weird, exciting, terrifying feelings I had in my mid-teens growing up.

  • @christiancomicstrip3913
    @christiancomicstrip3913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Big Baby story "Teen Plague" by Burns is almost a prologue to Black Hole, so if you like Black Hole, you might want to look out for the Big Baby collection.

    • @DrDoomPool
      @DrDoomPool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great collection!

  • @chevon5707
    @chevon5707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watched the first 2 minutes when this vid first came out. Decided I had to get this book immediately before I watched the rest. Back now after having read it - such good stuff.

  • @nategarcia5501
    @nategarcia5501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Taking an official look at the Ghost world book would be a really interesting additional look at comparing serialized work formatted as a “graphic novel” and maybe fun to discuss if having a nonstop narrative as opposed to small serialized strips benefits a long form narrative.

  • @goodcompanystudios5798
    @goodcompanystudios5798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This artwork almost seems simplistic...but freaking a the lines are so clean. This is crazy!

  • @filosofrenia8635
    @filosofrenia8635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was i looking for on the channel yesterday morning??? Blackhole!!! Thank you!

  • @Gootie29
    @Gootie29 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So beautiful and haunting. Thanks for posting this

  • @robertplautz9722
    @robertplautz9722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is some whiteout in the Studio edition, but very rare. YOU GUYS ARE MY TEACHERS!! thanks!

  • @RWBoyd
    @RWBoyd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once I was driving around and saw a billboard of a shark about to eat a can of A&W rootbeer (the can was bait that someone was fishing with). It was drawn and seemed obviously by Burns. I later saw the image in a magazine ad, and it was definitely Burns. So that was the kind of gig an illustrator could get back in the 90s.

  • @therupoe
    @therupoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit.... this is awesome! I stopped halfway through so I could read it first.

  • @garytucker3563
    @garytucker3563 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't tell you how many times I saw this book in the graphic novel section of the library and despite the dope cover of the big book version, I too thought it was gonna be something like Liberty Falls. Ya'll shown the book with the skin cover talking about horror and I'm like WTF did I miss?!?!?

  • @LarryCooney
    @LarryCooney 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, even though I own multiple copies of the individual issues (it was my mission to get all 1st print, mission accomplished) this just made me pick up the collected paperback. Such a classic.

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the greatest visionary image makers of all mankind. How he could cram so much fanfuckingtastic writing and art into a spectacle of bizarre slices of the morbid underworld is always a treat.🎃

  • @geoffyuendesign
    @geoffyuendesign 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was a fairly prolific commercial illustrator in the early ‘90s. I remember seeing his work in pretty high-end work but I can’t remember what exactly (high end paper companies, I think MTV, etc) His style fit in perfectly with the grundgy ‘90s graphic design stuff going on though.

  • @chriscowgill9831
    @chriscowgill9831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This book is amazing! Been hoping you'd put this one under the microscope. I highly recommend the artist's edition of this one!

  • @neilsanzari9723
    @neilsanzari9723 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys keep topping yourselves! Excellent analysis. Thank you 🙏

  • @_kevinmansell_
    @_kevinmansell_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chip Kidd's cover for the collected edition is fantastic.

  • @TheTonyFigueroa
    @TheTonyFigueroa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like Charles Burns "El Borbah". It's a really fun set of stories.

  • @mauroconi1285
    @mauroconi1285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost finished it. Really sick. Gorgeous drawing with similarities with Magnus.

  • @muskmeowsky
    @muskmeowsky ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m fairly certain this book gave me triptophobia (I’m not googling to spell check) from the few times I looked through it as a teenager. I want to pick it up as an adult but I’m still scared.

  • @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620
    @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and say that his illustration career was likely very much in print magazines. Anyone remember those? Also delightful Cafe moment when you referenced the orange repideo-graph. can only assume a Charles Burns interview is on the way thanks guys

  • @GalaxianPunk
    @GalaxianPunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed this, he’s one of my favourite artists

  • @snakemont
    @snakemont 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    37:16 you make a TV Show out of it. Like the Boys, or the Doom Patrol. Streaming Services and Comics are a Perfect Loverealationship. 39:04 Those Kids complain...because they are traumatized. The fragmented and narcissistic individual mirrors the society at large. And those kids have fewer resources than the generations before them. It's a strange and alienated world.

  • @TheJMuise87
    @TheJMuise87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've read Black Hole, it's incredible. Like you guys mentioned, the line work is second to none. Any recommendations for Burns work after reading black hole?

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anything you can get your hands on.

    • @clrose428
      @clrose428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The X’ed out trilogy is great and pretty easy to get your hands on.

  • @lopey5035
    @lopey5035 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The writing here is absolutely incredible.

  • @deanwhite6064
    @deanwhite6064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    GUYS WHY did you not show at least some of the artist edition that you had there, was really looking forward to see what an original looked like. Great show love that boom

  • @jtwilight6182
    @jtwilight6182 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this book!

  • @sodaoner1
    @sodaoner1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure it’s already been conveyed but I didn’t dig through the comments. But Burns was a poster illustrator in the 90s-00s too I think that’s where he made a lot of his money.

  • @richdannys2906
    @richdannys2906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Snow Angels.." LOL

  • @jimmygownley9573
    @jimmygownley9573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Burns did a fair amount for Rolling Stone too. Here's an example www.goodreads.com/book/show/321413.R_E_M_

  • @theartofSkinner
    @theartofSkinner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite!

  • @lewpal
    @lewpal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck yeah. More Burns and Clowes boyzzzzzz

  • @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620
    @djdoctorwhomm.c.p.8620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The hits keep coming thanks guys

  • @MODELMIND72
    @MODELMIND72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    " EPIC "!!!!!!!

  • @grantwood8167
    @grantwood8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    (Watch till the very end) Ed’s story ,the best 😂

  • @sammyherring9140
    @sammyherring9140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that he did illustration for coke, for the O.K soda cans

  • @Ursula1000
    @Ursula1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    seminal!

  • @Paper_Abyss_Comics
    @Paper_Abyss_Comics 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck yes

  • @GamesWithBrainz
    @GamesWithBrainz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    where at any point in the book does it show people are healing from the bug??

  • @frankaigre
    @frankaigre 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you happen to remember what the paper stock turned out being, jim?

  • @palchristianandersen9086
    @palchristianandersen9086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some director called Rupert Sanders made a short based on Black Hole 10 years ago. I don't know if he was using it to pitch a movie, but they also made some photoshopped versions of the high-school yearbook photos so it looks like they were revving up for something.
    vimeo.com/17614896 Here's the short. Kinda misses the mark on the source material imo.

  • @misterjackpots5005
    @misterjackpots5005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anybody connect the meaning (if there is any) behind this book being in the second modern Planet of the Apes movie?

  • @TCherice
    @TCherice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They guy who hangs around the group but not closely is Dave’s minion, his former chess partner. He’s lonely and is being promised by Dave that he will always have companionship, just as long as he kills Rob. We kind of glean that Dave made promises to him of forever friendship just as long as he did Dave’s bidding. You may address this later in the video, I should just wait and see! :-P
    Edit - yep! You did address it. I should’ve just waited and listened. :-)

  • @pjbrown4736
    @pjbrown4736 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting you mention Dragon Head, Jim. Minetaro Mochizuki's art was great, but what an unrewarding awful story. Not awful for the apocalyptic setting, that was interesting. It was awful because it offered no major plot twists that would pay off later. If he maybe did short features of different perspectives of the unfolding doom, that might have been better.

  • @Lukegrayart
    @Lukegrayart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you ever find out what the paper is ?

  • @hotelnapkin
    @hotelnapkin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    (sic)