"I'm not really gonna explain this because this video is so long already." Dude- I have all day and I'd watch a three hour video of you doing this. You're demystifying a lot of stuff for me. Keep it coming!
Yeah, totally; this is something that needs to be explained in detail and often isn't. He must explain *everything.* If he feels it's going to take too long, then he should break it into parts. I don't care how many, *I will watch them all.*
BIG Z, quick tip on a way to speed up your frequency checking process, after your A/B plug on the master, insert 5 FFQ2's with one for each range you check, that way you just turn them on and off instead of having to type the ranges in each time. great tutorials!
Coming back to this video a week later because it has already changed my mixing life man! Referencing is so key, never really realized how much it can help
your videos are so good, everything is always explained so well and your work ethic is great. i love watching literally any video you make just because of how thorough you are
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47 mins of pure gold!!! 🙌🏻 Thanks for sharing your workflow with us! ❤️
I love how you used the references while isolating frequencies to listen to individual instruments. I had typically done the same thing with my references but did so while listening to all the instruments and trying to match low end overall for instance. Just going instrument by instrument and building up from the drums is a pretty sick (and quite useful) idea. Thanks for another tool in the mixing tool belt. Brilliant, thank you.
Wow this is gold, i've never seen this strategy before. I tried mixing with reference but failed to do so but now i know how it should be approached. Thankyou
DUDE! I was watching part 1 of your mixing tut last night and was when is the part 2 coming?! Crazy how a good night's rest was all I needed for this to drop lolol. Thanks a ton. About to watch this and soak up the knowledge ^^
Big z, this video could have been 5 hours long im sure myself and all your subscribers would watch...... Honestly amazing stuff your teaching and i appreciate your time and effort. Keep um coming...
I think there are Flaws in your Method and i try my best to adress them. First what i like to do in addition to the project setup and where i start mixing: i like to normalize the files to around -15 to -13 dB. After that I set up the Faders. I am using a Pink Noise as a Reference Comparing each Fader to the Pink Noise. Thats a great way to start a Mix and to get a good Starting Point. Faders Levels are a super essencial Part of Mixing and using the Pink Noise Method helps Nailing it. About the Workflow you have used in your video: You are giving People a Script to follow. And by itselfe Isolating Parts to compare to the Reference is an interesting tool, but there are some flaws in it. You are focusing on matching isolated values of your source signals to values of a reference. Rather than listening to your Song trying to figure out where you have issues in your song. In case of the reference those solutions might have worked. But in your case there is a good chance that it does not work. Maybe your instruments are strong in other Parts of the frequency spektrum and you are not supporting them. You have to get rid of issues in your mix and you are not even looking at those. Stuff that is fighting for the same frequenzy range or simply stuff that does not sound right. I hate to start to mistify a process that i am far from nailing myself. Where I want to point at: I think the issues i adress here are important to improve the quality of the result you got. Mixing with a structure from low end to high end is good. Using a Reference is also good. I have learned in a course that its nice to listen to the ref for a while (5-10 min) before every mix. I dont do it but it helps with the next step. Go mix without your reference first. Set your faders, go for the pink noise (or another thing that stays stable as a basic point 0 to match your faders to) and start there. After that you have a result that you can clean up. Where you see where issues are and where you can determine where you have to focus your attention in your mix. (By the way your Organisation Structure is great i love it.) When you get to a point where you are asking yourselfe about details in therms of for example how to apply eq to a kickdrum thats otherwise fine or if you should lower a high hat stuff like that.You know when you did your basic mixing and you can apply stuff to drag your mix into a certain direction where you are going for a certain taste. Than you can take some sneek peeks to your ref and steal ideas from there. I think its important to define certain goals in the mixing process. based on the issues in your mix when you are listening to it. Identifying what to adress based on listening and going for it in various ways is where people with experience are better than people like me. Also i have not figured out where i should stop and thats where i fuck up. And thats probably the point where you can go for the technique you are using but i would personaly stay away from matching the hole mixe to the reference. Another point i have to mention is you can sync your reverb to your project tempo to get it to sound more musical. I always go for try and error but roughly its /60000/bPM)x2 for pre delay x4 for short verb x8 long verb. Anyway i enjoy your content! I am still insecure in my own mixing so i usually ask an experienced engineer i know for feedback. After that he kicks my ass. A Project where i did to much production stuff to a point where i fucked up the vocals is pdbmc neu definiert also on youtube. Its german but ill add more stuff on his channel and maybe ill also improve. Have a super nice day :) I hope i was able to help!
@@CaptainCrook99 I would use it as described in the text. Take 60 000 and divide it by the bpm value of the song you are mixing. Take the result and multiply it with 2,4 and 8 for shorter or longer reverb tails, and divide it by two for the value for your pre delay. So a Song with 105 bpm would give you (60 000/bpm) = (60 000/105) = 571.42 without the multiplier as a starting point. Divide that by 2 and you get (60 000/105)/2 = 571,42 / 2 = 285,71 that's you pre delay. And for a short verb decay you go with (60 000/105)*2 = 571,42 * 2 = 1142.85 ms. So you use that as a decay value. For a longer Reverb you can go for 8 as a multiplier. So this time it is: (60 000/105)*8= 571,42 * 8 = 4571,43 ms. Its a rule that you can use to set your reverb times in a musical way. The guy that showed me this said: "you can hear when the reverb is synced to the music it makes a difference". Honestly in my opinion its a quick and easy way to dial in settings with a purpose. Some other guys saying is rules are there so you know when you are breaking them ore something like that xD. (i use this trick but i usually forget the values for predelay and short and long stuff so i just start to write stuff in my calculator and try different Numbers) If it sounds great than there is the way to go. But doing things with a purpose is also nice so i hope i could help you with this :) Have a nice day :)
@@VeteranxxxINF Hy :) Does this go to me? i like using a dual core mac book pro from 2012 so i will probably run into cpu issues when i try to record and mix stuff at the same time. And i am a really lazy i get nothing done typ of guy at the moment. (but my 420 cbd stack is terminated and i am not planning to reorder something soon so it should get better) My comment is kinda like backseat gaming its easy to say hey here are issues and its obvioulsy something else to deliver something self made. I kinda hope i get back on some sort of track in terms of production and mixing. And if i get to a point where i am at the mixing stage for a project then i will remember your comment and try to get something done for you to critizise. I am far from nailing the process myself but i can try to include the stuff that helped me and i would love to get some critique on possible results. (Not being bothered by having a dual core cpu is a point where i am good at xD) This can take a while but i will keep it in mind. It would cool to get some critique. Also if you put this pdbmc neu definiert thing into youtube you should be able to find something to critizise. Its german and the guy used a cheap usb microphone but its something :)
you should set up a pro mb with all the frequency ranges you like and use that to filter frequencies on the master bus. that way you only have to press solo on each band on pro mb rather than moving the frequncies around on pro q 3.
Good job Big Z! When you say you're mixing the verses after the drop, how do you do this - like are you changing the whole balance in automation where it need to be changed regarding the already used plugins, or do you copy the verses on new channels so the have their own eqs comps reverbs etc.? Otherwise how do you do it without destroying the already achieved balance? Or do you mean that you are only mixing the elements that are playing in the verses towards the already mixed stuff from the drops? This always confuses me a bit ... Thank you!
Big Z! Your tuts is so useful, your music sounds brilliant! But can u make video how you process your drums, from start to finish? It will be easy for you, but for us it will be sooo useful! Thanks
Love Metric AB! Fantastic mixing.. is there a reason you don't use Metric AB's tools that allow you to solo frequencies vs Fab's? Appreciate the video, very informative to watch your mix decisions.
Great video. You eq’d the drop. When you eq the verse do you use additional eq and automate or do you eq on top of the drop eq’s? Hope this make sense. Great mix.
HEY BIG Z, would you always recommend finishing your track and bouncing your stems before mixing? I have always just mixed whilst I went along... Thanks for your tutorials
I noticed that you never moved the faders. Is this intentional or do you save that for automation? Also, should the gain for each stem be around -17 to -12 (or some other uniform level) before you start comparing to the reference track?
Interesting man. I always start by volume balancing everything in mono before touch any compression, eq, or plugins... I find It usually backfires on me to look at individual tracks and adjust without the context of the whole mix.
Why use a folder stack and buses instead of just using a summing stack and doing the same things as you would on the bus track? Is that equivalent? Or do you do this for a particular reason? Thanks brother!
how do you separate the mixing of the tracks between the different sections? Wouldn't tracks have to be eqed differently in the verse to the drop so would affect how the drop mix sounds?
"I'm not really gonna explain this because this video is so long already."
Dude- I have all day and I'd watch a three hour video of you doing this. You're demystifying a lot of stuff for me. Keep it coming!
yeah agreed
Yeah, totally; this is something that needs to be explained in detail and often isn't. He must explain *everything.* If he feels it's going to take too long, then he should break it into parts. I don't care how many, *I will watch them all.*
Top 3 most chill people on the planet:
1. Big Z
2. Big Z
3. Zach Caraher
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Top 3 best producers on yt:
1. Busyworksbeats
2. Big Z
Would be great if you could make an overall tutorial about compressing / MB compressing, equalizing, just all FabFilter Plugins :-)
Big thanks to BigZ! If anyone wants to know how I made any part of this track Let me know!
make a production video tutorial :)
BIG Z, quick tip on a way to speed up your frequency checking process, after your A/B plug on the master, insert 5 FFQ2's with one for each range you check, that way you just turn them on and off instead of having to type the ranges in each time.
great tutorials!
I was thinking that as well. Or make and save 5 presets, one for each range.
Coming back to this video a week later because it has already changed my mixing life man! Referencing is so key, never really realized how much it can help
me too! hahhaha
your videos are so good, everything is always explained so well and your work ethic is great. i love watching literally any video you make just because of how thorough you are
47 mins of pure gold!!! 🙌🏻 Thanks for sharing your workflow with us! ❤️
Closing your eyes is the most simple yet one of the most effective tricks when mixing, really good habit to get into
anyone hear "smells like teen spirit" when he was working on the sub? 13:40
Lol so happy I found this comment I thought I’d be alone
and i'm gonna watch it over and over again in a few days.
I love how you used the references while isolating frequencies to listen to individual instruments. I had typically done the same thing with my references but did so while listening to all the instruments and trying to match low end overall for instance. Just going instrument by instrument and building up from the drums is a pretty sick (and quite useful) idea. Thanks for another tool in the mixing tool belt. Brilliant, thank you.
What a great tutorial!! Love the concept of checking "band by band". You're awesome explaining things. Great content.
People always say reference tracks are so important, but until now I never understood just how useful they were. Eye opening video thanks my guy
yeah me too hahhahah
BIG Z keep up the good work my dude. Your vids always inspire me to crank out some music.
WOW!!! NO ONE SHARES THAT TYPE OF KNOWLEDGE. Thanks Big Z. You are one humble guy with a lot of talent. RESPECT.
Awesome and yet transparent tutorial video!
I've been dreaming of this video...
Wow this is gold, i've never seen this strategy before. I tried mixing with reference but failed to do so but now i know how it should be approached. Thankyou
Hearing the reasoning behind your adjustments has been a great help in explaining the mixing process
Amazing, how always simple things have the most results.
damn even the raw mix is better than my mastered track lol
i think its down to sound selection
Thank You Bro! You are the most honest and your lessons are super helpfull! You are the best
This is one of the MOST interesting mixing tutorial I've seen on here. Just earned a subscribe.
before mixing: 0:56
after mixing: 46:08
:)
mix so fresh and so clean
DUDE! I was watching part 1 of your mixing tut last night and was when is the part 2 coming?! Crazy how a good night's rest was all I needed for this to drop lolol. Thanks a ton. About to watch this and soak up the knowledge ^^
Big z, this video could have been 5 hours long im sure myself and all your subscribers would watch...... Honestly amazing stuff your teaching and i appreciate your time and effort. Keep um coming...
reference plug ins are the key to levelling up your mixing game from what I can see
legit!
Man you are a KING man thank you soooooo much for giving uss a leson on this so NICE peace.
Big Z, you rock.
This is a real eye-opener for me
Great info. Awesome tutorial. Thank you!!!
this is really a learning experience, this channel needs more sub!
absolutely amazing! thank you for this great tutorial. this video is exactly what i needed these days!
Damn man. You just showed me a new perspective to tackle my mixes. I loved your content.
You are fricking dicking awesome. Best Mixing Tut ever, period. You da Man!
agreed
Thank you!!! So glad I found your channel!
This man looks pretty high, ngl
He gently mixed this buds into the tobacco
Love your channel man! Awesome stuff.. and like Big Z says "Peace"!
I think there are Flaws in your Method and i try my best to adress them.
First what i like to do in addition to the project setup and where i start mixing:
i like to normalize the files to around -15 to -13 dB. After that I set up the Faders. I am using a Pink Noise as a Reference Comparing each Fader to the Pink Noise. Thats a great way to start a Mix and to get a good Starting Point. Faders Levels are a super essencial Part of Mixing and using the Pink Noise Method helps Nailing it.
About the Workflow you have used in your video:
You are giving People a Script to follow. And by itselfe Isolating Parts to compare to the Reference is an interesting tool, but there are some flaws in it. You are focusing on matching isolated values of your source signals to values of a reference. Rather than listening to your Song trying to figure out where you have issues in your song. In case of the reference those solutions might have worked. But in your case there is a good chance that it does not work. Maybe your instruments are strong in other Parts of the frequency spektrum and you are not supporting them. You have to get rid of issues in your mix and you are not even looking at those. Stuff that is fighting for the same frequenzy range or simply stuff that does not sound right. I hate to start to mistify a process that i am far from nailing myself.
Where I want to point at:
I think the issues i adress here are important to improve the quality of the result you got. Mixing with a structure from low end to high end is good. Using a Reference is also good. I have learned in a course that its nice to listen to the ref for a while (5-10 min) before every mix. I dont do it but it helps with the next step. Go mix without your reference first. Set your faders, go for the pink noise (or another thing that stays stable as a basic point 0 to match your faders to) and start there. After that you have a result that you can clean up. Where you see where issues are and where you can determine where you have to focus your attention in your mix. (By the way your Organisation Structure is great i love it.)
When you get to a point where you are asking yourselfe about details in therms of for example how to apply eq to a kickdrum thats otherwise fine or if you should lower a high hat stuff like that.You know when you did your basic mixing and you can apply stuff to drag your mix into a certain direction where you are going for a certain taste. Than you can take some sneek peeks to your ref and steal ideas from there.
I think its important to define certain goals in the mixing process. based on the issues in your mix when you are listening to it. Identifying what to adress based on listening and going for it in various ways is where people with experience are better than people like me. Also i have not figured out where i should stop and thats where i fuck up.
And thats probably the point where you can go for the technique you are using but i would personaly stay away from matching the hole mixe to the reference.
Another point i have to mention is you can sync your reverb to your project tempo to get it to sound more musical. I always go for try and error but roughly its /60000/bPM)x2 for pre delay x4 for short verb x8 long verb.
Anyway i enjoy your content! I am still insecure in my own mixing so i usually ask an experienced engineer i know for feedback. After that he kicks my ass. A Project where i did to much production stuff to a point where i fucked up the vocals is pdbmc neu definiert also on youtube. Its german but ill add more stuff on his channel and maybe ill also improve.
Have a super nice day :) I hope i was able to help!
Hey @Piano Noir! Could you elaborate on the idea of syncing the reverb and delay to the tempo of the track? It sounds quite useful
@@CaptainCrook99 I would use it as described in the text. Take 60 000 and divide it by the bpm value of the song you are mixing. Take the result and multiply it with 2,4 and 8 for shorter or longer reverb tails, and divide it by two for the value for your pre delay. So a Song with 105 bpm would give you (60 000/bpm) = (60 000/105) = 571.42 without the multiplier as a starting point. Divide that by 2 and you get (60 000/105)/2 = 571,42 / 2 = 285,71 that's you pre delay. And for a short verb decay you go with (60 000/105)*2 = 571,42 * 2 = 1142.85 ms. So you use that as a decay value. For a longer Reverb you can go for 8 as a multiplier. So this time it is: (60 000/105)*8= 571,42 * 8 = 4571,43 ms. Its a rule that you can use to set your reverb times in a musical way. The guy that showed me this said: "you can hear when the reverb is synced to the music it makes a difference". Honestly in my opinion its a quick and easy way to dial in settings with a purpose. Some other guys saying is rules are there so you know when you are breaking them ore something like that xD. (i use this trick but i usually forget the values for predelay and short and long stuff so i just start to write stuff in my calculator and try different Numbers) If it sounds great than there is the way to go. But doing things with a purpose is also nice so i hope i could help you with this :) Have a nice day :)
When is your video coming out. I would like to critique it as well?
@@VeteranxxxINF Hy :) Does this go to me? i like using a dual core mac book pro from 2012 so i will probably run into cpu issues when i try to record and mix stuff at the same time. And i am a really lazy i get nothing done typ of guy at the moment. (but my 420 cbd stack is terminated and i am not planning to reorder something soon so it should get better) My comment is kinda like backseat gaming its easy to say hey here are issues and its obvioulsy something else to deliver something self made. I kinda hope i get back on some sort of track in terms of production and mixing. And if i get to a point where i am at the mixing stage for a project then i will remember your comment and try to get something done for you to critizise. I am far from nailing the process myself but i can try to include the stuff that helped me and i would love to get some critique on possible results. (Not being bothered by having a dual core cpu is a point where i am good at xD) This can take a while but i will keep it in mind. It would cool to get some critique. Also if you put this pdbmc neu definiert thing into youtube you should be able to find something to critizise. Its german and the guy used a cheap usb microphone but its something :)
You are the real deal. ❤️
Dude, love the long form video! This was awesome. Looking forward to more of these long form videos in the future!
This is what i call a high quality tutorial!
Nice explanations. Thanks!
Pure gold!! Thank you sir!
Love it thank you!
Very inspiring, very knowledgeable, and best of all, you're working in logic! Thank you!
Do you have any tips on how you trained your ears to detect the unwanted frequencies etc?
Big Z Rulz
Thanks for this.
Need to practice A/B testing.
great video, how do you know when to compress in a frequency as opposed to simply turning that frequency down?
Yeah, great video! Thanks
I heard about referencing before but never did it. Now I understand how powerfull it can be . THX.
you should set up a pro mb with all the frequency ranges you like and use that to filter frequencies on the master bus. that way you only have to press solo on each band on pro mb rather than moving the frequncies around on pro q 3.
You have got a killer work ethic.
WOWOWOW!!! Very well done!
Good job Big Z!
When you say you're mixing the verses after the drop, how do you do this - like are you changing the whole balance in automation where it need to be changed regarding the already used plugins, or do you copy the verses on new channels so the have their own eqs comps reverbs etc.?
Otherwise how do you do it without destroying the already achieved balance? Or do you mean that you are only mixing the elements that are playing in the verses towards the already mixed stuff from the drops? This always confuses me a bit ...
Thank you!
Thank you so much for up loading this video, it is very helpful.
Great video please make more videos in detail like this one
Gotta watch this now. Must finish.
This is great stuff man! Super digging your videos!!
This has been so incredibly helpful, you have no idea!
🔥 Thanks for all the hard work!
I don’t think you realise how excited I am that you’ve dropped this video, thank you!! 🙏🏼
This was really what I needed. Thanks Z!
Big Z! Your tuts is so useful, your music sounds brilliant! But can u make video how you process your drums, from start to finish? It will be easy for you, but for us it will be sooo useful! Thanks
First video I've seen from you and I already subscribed. Keep up the great tutorials man! They are really appreciated.
Thats killer. Thank You. Do You have vid explaining how side chains work ?
Absolutely great!
"mixing is just a 1000 little changes that add up to something greater"
can you do a quick vid explaining the spacing between plugins on the channel strip?
this is without a doubt the most helpful mixing video i've ever watched. thanks man
Awesome as always really helping me
The starving song is actually one of my favorite songs like that💯
I'm so happy that I can actually what is going on now!
Love Metric AB! Fantastic mixing.. is there a reason you don't use Metric AB's tools that allow you to solo frequencies vs Fab's? Appreciate the video, very informative to watch your mix decisions.
You’re blowing up! Deserved brotha.
Thank you sir
You are amazing dude!!!
You are the best!👏🏻
I learn a lot, great video!
Great video man!
Always watch the ads before Big Z's vids. :-)
Great video. You eq’d the drop. When you eq the verse do you use additional eq and automate or do you eq on top of the drop eq’s? Hope this make sense. Great mix.
Superb demo brother loved it
Gr8 Concepts Of Comparing....Keep Rocking Bro...g
HEY BIG Z, would you always recommend finishing your track and bouncing your stems before mixing? I have always just mixed whilst I went along... Thanks for your tutorials
I noticed that you never moved the faders. Is this intentional or do you save that for automation? Also, should the gain for each stem be around -17 to -12 (or some other uniform level) before you start comparing to the reference track?
big z thanks for all the awesome info and the way you explain everything!
Interesting man. I always start by volume balancing everything in mono before touch any compression, eq, or plugins... I find It usually backfires on me to look at individual tracks and adjust without the context of the whole mix.
Please Big Z, make it available for ableton live, a lot of people use ableton and would like to purchase these tamplates! you rock!!
Great video! Any advice on mixing for mono?
Why use a folder stack and buses instead of just using a summing stack and doing the same things as you would on the bus track? Is that equivalent?
Or do you do this for a particular reason?
Thanks brother!
Hey Mr Z, thanks for this!
Could you do a tutorial on proper Gain staging?
Would be really great!
how do you separate the mixing of the tracks between the different sections? Wouldn't tracks have to be eqed differently in the verse to the drop so would affect how the drop mix sounds?
This is soooo good!!! Thanks Big-Z :)
frequency check part really inspire me a lot.
King of Music Tutorials
A follow-along PDF would be pretty epic ;)