Basagan ng Trip with Leloy Claudio: Was Martial Law needed to defeat the communists?
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More relevant now as it was 5 years ago. I am using Dr. Leloy and Prof Xiao videos in my daily dose of Philippine history. Kailangan talaga natin ang ganitong mga pananaw para maging malawak ang ating kaisipan...
Both sides were taken and discussed. At least di siya one-sided.
Yes, this is why I respect the guy in spite of him being a dilawan. I'm a pro Marcos.
@@yellowlemon8765 that is awesome.
@@yellowlemon8765 haha Yellow and Lemon.
just kidding.
@@lorenzoantonio4561Oo nga e, sa tingin mo ba napagkakamalan siyang "dilawan"? Hahahaha.
great lecture but my problem is why no official books were released by the government for lecture in primary/secondary schools? if martial law is so important that filipino people should learn from it, then government should have prioritized then the education of its younger generation like what germany did after the WW. 10, 20 or 50 years from now, martial law era will only be associated with special holidays and majority of the people cannot relate to this lecture. i think it's to late now. just thinking out loud.
yun nga dapat yun taga dep. Ibalik kaya wala alam mga student sa history
Note that this is a point in time where the mainstream media (TV and radio; print media, too) were heavily supressed.
So information is a bit blurry to be organized and be presented concisely.
this is exactly the problem. walang extensive na pag-aaral ng horrors ng martial law or even Philippine history sa elementary or high school man lang kaya ang daling nakalimutan ng tao ang martial law. umabot pa ako ng college bago ko nalaman kung gaano talaga kabrutal ang dictatorship ni Marcos. kaya sobrang labo din ng narrative na "binago nila cory lahat ng mga libro ng mga bata para gawing masama si marcos" ang labo talaga. and look, here we are now, they're back and it's extremely sad to see.
POLIO😭😭😭 ITS TOO MUCH LATE 😭
Becoz marcos suppresed anytbing, books ,any form of media that tells the truth about martial law..
Just to add small notes
FM also believed in his idea of "constitutional authoritarianism" and published(?) a thesis based on this (have read about it on The Conjugal Dictatorship).
And for the fact that he even crafted a constitution that will best suit him before and after the declaration of Martial Law (1971) is proof enough that his top motive was to remain in power.
Yup. The 1973 Constitution. Written by Marcos with the pen of dictatorship.
Yes, too obvious was the plan, knowing that he stayed in power, til there was edsa people power revolution. Kung hindi nangyari ang edsa revolution. Baka nga talaga NPA na mismo ang kumalabit sa knya sa pwesto. Mas magulo ang kalalabasan.
@@tangangheydarian8823 how can you say that when tibo mijares was given all the privileges that marcos could ever give a loyal ally. Lahat po ng pabor binigay sa kanya. Nang hindi na nya masikmura ang mga pinaggagawa ni marcos doon na sya tumiwalag. Ano pa kaya ang pwde nyang magiging demand na hindi maibigay ni marcos sa kanya. Habang sya ang ginawang troll at taga gawa ng magagandang balita pabor kay marcos noong panahon na iyun. Try to get hold of the conjugal dictatorship. Isipin din natin na meron din tayong mga budhi na umuusig sa atin. Minsan tama na rin yung umayaw pag sobra na.
That's the real score why Marcos declare Martial Law, basically to hold on to power and stay as he wishes. He has that behind forsight of making the Philippines a kingdom. He was invisioning to be the king and Imelda as queen. This is manifested at Imelda's cravings for glittering tiaras and crowns of jewels.
Megalomaniac tlg nuh,Ang dapat yumaman k s pgnenegosyo, hindi s corrupsyon..thats the moral lesson..
But why would he want to stay in power? Also, with his many completed projects and many more others had Cory not abolished others, I doubt he'd even have enough money to steal anything.
Oh and before you say that illogical 20 years = 6 years argument, you can go ahead and compare Marcos' first 6 years vs Cory's first 6 years.
@@yellowlemon8765' why he wants to stay in power?...u doubt he even have enough money to steal'...tagalogin mo nlan kc, ingles kp ng ingles baluktot nman...alam mo brod..hindi klang ignorante, bulag kp s katotohanan...c marcos, tumagal ng 20 yrs, umunlad b pilipinas? Sa pgunlad, ibg ssbhin, yumamsn ang bansa at d n 3rd world? Yumaman b ang pilipinas.? Sagot, HINDE! Nung umupo si marcos magkaparehas lang pinas at JAPAN.. tspos makaraan 20 yrs nya s posisyon, bumagsak s khulihulihan ng asia ang economiya...Yan b ibg mo sbhin n gnawa ni mccoy..katawa tawa k
Cory adminstration was a band aid solution to the disastrous and corrupt ridden Macos
admin..Inaddress lang ni cory ang mgakapalpakan at mga kakurPan ng rehimen Marcos, Mali n ikumpara .
@@junfrias9188 No she wasn't. She made it worse in fact. Though at least she made us realize Marcos was the best choice we've ever had. Let's see if his son does well too.
Mas madaling intindihin. May pambala na ko sa bardagulan 2021-2022.
HAHAHAHAHA bet
Tapos na. Hintay nanaman sa 2028. Sana, may kasamang Marcos nanaman. Masaya itong eleksyon na ito dahil may historical arguments.
I agree with Polio Jose this should be taught in school just like what Germany did after world war 2 , in Germany they really despise Hitler even the youth because it was taught in school even in their young age
No to revisionism. Yes to fight for justice and accountability...
"A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right and evil doesn't become good just because it's accepted by a majority."
Booker T. Washington
Yes, no to revisionism. Just add the the other side of the story we never got to hear. Don't remove or add to the story, just give us exactly all the facts so that we can decide for ourselves.
Oh thanks to your videos, Sir. I'm catching up on much needed history lessons that were not taught in hi school and college.
Thank you Professor. Great lecture that must be shared in all universities.
Listen intently for one minute starting 6:38 and draw your conclusion if Martial Law was not declared by Marcos and the communist took over the Philippines -
"I believe na yung Leninist formula ng Lenin Party na laging nasusunod yung centralized party is a recipe for dictatorship.
In fact sinabi ng former leading communist himself na si Nathan Quimpo na sa tingin niya kung nanalo sila bilang communist party, the kind of regime that they would have created will be a totalitarian regime much worse than Marcos. Ito galing na mismo ito from a former communist himself.
So now it was a threat that if we did have a communist takeover the Philippines maraming papatayin kagaya ng mga pinatay ni Lenin at mga pinatay ni Stalin at mga pinatay ni Mao."
Was Martial Law realy bad?
Will a Joma's Communist takeover be better then?
th-cam.com/video/bpH_bMvAXmY/w-d-xo.html
Needed to be declared or not, the abuse of power of the military, the extrajudicial killings, and injustices are still and wil always be unjustifiable.
@@ingkongquitiw9667 plus, sir Leloy was stating how was threatening the Communism to counter-argue his fellow historians who minimize the threat of the Communists
Pwede ko po ba i copy paste. Thank you po.
tapusin mo yung buong video. He's not advocating for communism. He's saying that Martial Law was ineffective in stopping it.
Hello, thank you for the very informative video.
Could you please provide the name of the CIA documents that you mentioned at 9:34 ?
I need it for a school project, so I would greatly appreciate any help! Thank you.
Thank you sir for your enlightenment!!!
Thank you sir leloy!!
Thank you po sir leloy
Went back to this video because of the martial law declaration anniversary coming up. #NeverAgain to the Marcoses.
Kulang po kaalaman nyo. Was jomas communism better than martial law. Hindi po. Kung jomas communism po ang magtetake over sa pilipinas eh magiging north korea po tayo. Please wag nyo po iasa sa iisang tao lang ang kaalaman nyo. Mas lalo rappler to source nya halata pong kulang ang arguments.
@@christine6074 kwento mo nlang yan sa pagong sizt. Madami na akong nabasang libro, SC decisions, napanood na documentaries, para maniwala pa sa Marcos propaganda. Lahat ng fina-follow ko na personalities like Prof Leloy are credible and well-educated. Mas maniniwala ako sakanila than some troll with a new YT account. Sorryyyy
@@ZaJMoj kulang ka po ng pinag aralan.
@@christine6074 hahaha kwento mo nalang yan sa iba. Wag ako. 😆 Kung convinced ka na sa nalalaman mo eh bakit ka pa nandito? kaming mga gustong matuto, nanoood ng content ng mga taong mapagkakatiwalaan. Unlike you. Random stranger on the internet. 😆
@@christine6074 ano po ba ang pinagkaiba ng communism ni joma sa martial law ni marcos eh pareho lang naman authoritrianism gusto nila
Plain and simple .. martial law was imposed because Marcos did not want to give up his oresidency ....
Weh di nga
@@Gabe-jq4gkHalatang hindi ka nanood ng video no? That was literally the same observation that Leloy did.
I like your analysis sir
The lecture is almost convincing but falls short of the full perspective. I was in UP in 1970-76 and knew firsthand the scenario from a student's view. As a freelance writer-historian, I feel hindsight favors a wider understanding of that era. Threat can be either imminent or latent, if not prominent. As you yourself said, arms were already being shipped by foreign supporters through the NPA. 2,000 arm-bearing rebels represented the imminent threat while the prominent threat came from the foreign support (finances, arms and possible intervention by China) as well as from the indoctrinated politicians, professionals, students, peasants and workers in the capital region and major cities. It was just a matter of time when the takeover would be accomplished. It is like putting out a small fire before it spreads. And if the tiny fire starts among dry leaves, you need to act fast. That's intelligence.
Also, interpreting ML solely as a self-preserving political move is biased. If FM had passed on the government to the next president, the possibility of the reds winning was another imminent result. Arms and drastic means can be powerful tools for change, but an indoctrinated intellectual population alone can direct where those tools are applied. FM had the law behind his legitimate use of both, in spite of excesses by the military. But atrocities did occur on both sides. Perhaps, you could lecture on that and allow firsthand accounts by Victor Corpuz to reveal the real and accurate story instead of casting doubt on his credibility. Howie Severino's docu in TH-cam will help your research.
Agree.
Remember that Mr. Marcos held a Constitution Convention in 1971. Before the actual Martial Law was declared.
He tried to craft a parliamentary government and many suspected that he's bucking for Prime Minister. But after Eduardo Quintero's expose, Napoleon Rama passed a resolution banning Marcos and his wife from holding office (overwhelmingly passed), and released a sworn statement of 14 people involved in the ConCon bribery.
This series of events tainted the Constitution Convention.
And like a spark of flame in a haystack, Mr. Marcos needed to act fast.
@@rheymarvinsalestre4075 And remember, we already had a parliament/presidential system with Virata as PM. Going into full parliamentary would have put us at par with other states now. Just as the nuclear plant would have made us power sufficient, and our own gold-based currency would have freed us from the dollar currency and IMF/WB, etc. But we'll never know, right? Power struggles always leave the people at the losing end. The reds and yellows are still there after 3 decades of so-so governance. People can now tell the big difference, so let them decide finally.
Yeah and i don't think Rappler even knows the geopolitical situation during the Cold War
@@vengeflly They're a pseudo news company, it's not surprising. Pseudo in the sense that their articles, and so called "news" are mixed with opinion and not solely news. If you want to see actual news, try Al Jazeera International (only biased with regards to Qatar) .
#NoToCommunism
Bakit hindi sila pwede targetin ng gobyerno at mga military kung noted na sila at wala ng ginawa kundi ang manggulo lalo na kapag nagrarally?
may namamatay ba pag nagrarally illegal ba? sabi nga in democracy we have freedom to organize but if it ever become violent only then the government can action.
Isali ang communism sa hugpong ng pagbabago ni Pres. Duterte. Ang communism ay Kasama sa revision of mix political economy system in the Philippines. May batas na dapat Kong ipaliwanag na ang kumunista ay hindi dapat maging kaaway kundi maging matalik na kaibigan ng Gobyerno. Gusto Kong supportahan ng legal na batas para sa adhikain ng mga kumunista at makasali sa political economy system ng Pilipinas.
Nanggugulo Bomba Dito Bomba duon pagpatay Dito pagpatay duon dukot Dito dukot duon sunud sunod tapos hahayaan Lang?
I agree.
I can feel you man
If you are really a historian, please explain the book President:Aquino Sainthood Postponed! People are really interested in that book!
She’s a devil in sheep’s wool
aba kailangan ba talagang iexplain pa yang libro na yan para masabing "historian?"
I don't think he is historian, he is a history teacher.
I DON'T THINK HINDI NYA GAGAWIN YAN KASI HE'S DOING THESE SEGMENTS FOR RAPPLER. ANU BA PINAPANIGAN NG RAPPLER?
"He may be a son of a b*tch, but he is our son of a b*tch!"
Well said.
Just like dutertes drugwar, the martial law solution was worst than the problem itself.Infact, these two men, failed to address both communism and drug politics respectively, simply because, judging from their respective situstions, they both have hidden agendas .Marcos is centralizing power to himself and Duterte simply wants to think with his balls rather than his head,Both men have failed to see the forest, for the trees..Both failed to see THE MAIN CAUSE OF BOTH PROBLEMS is basically ECONOMIC POVERTY OF THE COUNTRY .AND IT was not addressed at all..You dont clean the kitchen by killing all the cockroaches ...if u wipe it clean, there will be no cockroaches...YOU SOLVE ECONOMIC POVERTY by creating value businesses and encoursging businesses to thrive,AND IF THEY DID THIS those issues will automatically go away...
I heavily disagree. In several places in the Visayas I've been to, streets are relatively safer because of Duterte's drug war.
@@yellowlemon8765 safe n pinapatay mo mga addict n mhihirap at wala kalaban laban n yun iba pinlantahan lang ng pulis? Yan b pingmamalaki ni Duterte?? Duterte should think with his head ,not with his balls
Even using CIA documents? Come on
5:20
Bakit di nya pwedeng sabihin sino tong high ranking communist? May tinatago?
Kung walang communism Hindi mabuo Ang federalism. Sa generation of electricity, may ron laging feeders at neutral o common. Kahit sa distribution transformers mayron din laging neutral o common ( communism). At kung may neutral konektado din sa ground para walang distortion. Mabuo din dito Ang independent. May single phase o 3 phase .
If martial law is not the best choice at that time. Ano ba dapat ?
Ambigious naman ang video whether it was a right choice or not. The threat was there and it was growing however during that time lesser measures couldve been made. Proportionality nga diba, masyadong OA ang response compared sa threat. Couldve been regulated more firmly rather than "do what you must".
Kumbaga kumulimlim lang ang langit ng kaunti nagdeklara na ng Signal No. 5 sa buong bansa.
@@carokann4244 Hindi proportion yung aksyon sa problema.
TRY NYONG TANUNGIN ANG RAPPLER. MALAMANG MEH SAGOT YAN KAGAD SA TANONG NA YAN. MAHAHANAP YAN SA P500.
@jere What about the bombings though? And do you think other presidents did country side developments? One other reason was that there might be some illegal dealings Marcos didn't grant them. I get that my argument is without facts but the country-side needs of communists is without facts either.
Buti na lang , sa pagpasok ng DU30 Admin,
Naitatag na ang NTF ELCAC
Kung hindi Martial Law naging parang North Korea siguro tayo
Ok, teka mapapaisip talaga sino iboboto ngayong 2022. hehe !
Bongbong Marcos. Case closed. 31 million of us. :)
and that is Democracy. 💕
@@nitot100 Indeed. The bardagulan against the pinks were fun. It's always fun when you're arguing with history in mind.
well tama namn na masyado tlga radical ang martial law to think na hindi rin handa emotionaly ang militar to inherit such power. ang hindi lang malinaw saakin kung ganyan lang ba talaga ka easy mag handle ng Communism kahit alam mo na sa loob mismo ng pamahalaan may mga pumapanig na sa mga rebelde. kasalanan din ng mga aquino yan kaya maraming namatay dahil sa pagiging makasarili ng mga aquino. pasensya na pero kung ang pag dami ng ng rebelde naipilit nyo kay FEM na recruiter parang mas karpat dapat namn na tawagin Promotor ng Communism si Ninoy at dapat sya ang sisihin ng mga human rights victim.
👍
pgbigyan ninyo yong goverment manahiming muna kayo mga communist, wala nmn kayong ginawang na mabuti gulo lng,pwde ba tahimig muna tyo...kahit pa kyo ang mamahala wala rin kayong nagawa na mabuti....hindi lahat isa ang pg iisip at gusto ng tao...iba iba ang tao kaya iba iba rin ang .?????....mamuhay tyo ng tahimig...
Thank you for this balance and accurate analysis. Kaya dito pala nag umpisa kung bakit maraming nagsabi na naging kakampi ni ninoy ang mga npa. Dahil iisa lng sila ng isip yan ay buwagin ang diktatorya. Yan ang hindi napag isipan ng mga taong kulang sa pag iisip at pag intindi.
cute mo sir leloyyyyy :>
Diyos ko....
Ang tanong ko po, may ugnayan ba si Ninoy sa mga komunista?
sinabi nya, nakipag usap si ninoy sa ma Comminist. So, oo.
MERON PO
He talked with the CPP, pero hindi siya miyembro.
Correction martial law declares September 21 yan ang month ng birthday ko never forget
Lesson to learn yan kung sino man ang uupo na maging pangulo ng Pilipinas 👍👍👍👍BBM ✌️ 4 🐅 PRESIDENT PRRD 👊 4 🦅 V-PRESIDENT D ULTIMATE TANDEM 2022
So sino iboboto natin? Sino magandang iboto. Show some alternatives
Kung magtetake over po ang communism eh para na din po tayong north korea ngayon. Was the martial law needed ang sagot po ay oo. Because jomas communist take over will not be good for the filipinos lalo na sating mga mahihirap. Mananatili ang tatsulok.
Look when this was uploaded 😆
The answer is yes. Will the joma's communist take over will be better then?. Ang sagot?. No.
Really? Marcos really said that to the military "your free to do whatever must be done against the communist?" You never even mentioned your sources about this wait right sabisabi nila...🧐🤔
9:47
the use of color should be refrain from being use when we talk about politics. it misleads to the fact eh. address your opposition with it's ideology. kung meron lang bibig ang mga kulay minumura na nila kayong gamit ng gamit ng kulay patungkol sa politika or magtampo na ang kulay at tanggalin na yan sa paningin ng tao.
C or c same thing!
#NeverForget
Bakit hindi mo sinabi ang mga pinaggagawang pang-aagaw ng armas ng mga liquidation squad ng NPA na Sparrow Unit?
Kung naging communist tayo small or big C.
Siguro tagal na tayo binomba ng mga Amerikano. Tingin nyo?
parang ganun nga
Why was the NPA grand plan not executed?
Kasi nung naupo na si Cory, pinalaya niya ang mga pinuno (e.g. Joma) and she was very eager to engage in peace talks with them. Kaya hindi nangyari ang Baguio siege plan.
basagan ng trip naman kung sino nagpapatay kay ninoy at bkit wala pa napakulong
May napakulong na ho, 'yung mga sundalong involved sa pagpatay according to the Agrava Commission (e.g. Rogelio Moreno).
bro you know if you like to litsen somebody to you get somebody now about it if you are only on prof. that is not correct .any way tapos na yon . bakit 30years ang naghirap lalo ang bansa .lahat ng bansa nag revolution umunlad bakit ang bansa ay mahirap kaya sorry na lang sayo.
Hinde mo nayan mababasag kasi nga matagal na tayong basag kaya ang nabasag ayosen natin db
So Buti nalang nagka Edsa
Yes or no? 14 mins to answer a question
No. 2000 troops to dictate martial law? LOL
Who should we vote?
@@UncleKevin2K ano connect ng vote? red herring fallacy
Then again the video really wasn't trying to give you the answer. You decide on your own given the facts, great breeding grounds for critical thinking towards the controversial declaration. Ironic how many of the opposition see this media outlet as biased all throughout
Hindi ganon ang definition at role ng revolutionary vanguard party. :D Mali kaagad ang premise. And Nathan Quimpo is leading communist? Kailan? Laughable.
Dude. 'Yung mga kapatid ni Nathan Quimpo (si Ishmael Jr. at si Ronald Jan) mga cadre ng NPA during martial law, at nasa Bantayog ng mga Bayani ang mga pangalan nila. Is that enough commie cred for you?
And this is why the late President Cory Aquino should be a hero because she prevented Civil War and ended a dictatorial government. We have take note though that the 1972 Martial Law was in effect Nationwide.
@@ronaldsave7091 oh bakit di siya kinasuhan kung siya responsable? Ano ginawa niya after the massacre? Ano ginawa ni Pres. Cory after several coup d' état attempts? Nag-martial law din ba siya? Diktador din ba siya? Overstaying din ba siya gaya ng Dios mong si Marcos?
Cory preventing civil war? I don't know abut that. Cory didn't do anything. She lost. 2 parties staged a coup d' etat and placed her into power. Then for the next 6 years we've had power outages because she shut down BNPP, Mendiola massacre and hacienda luisita and only had one overpass I think as infrastructure development.
@@yellowlemon8765 Are you dumb? We had power outages because of the Mendiola Massacre and lone overpass? 🤣 To enlighten you, during the EDSA revolution, several AFP officers and personnel disobeyed orders from Marcos and sided with the Filipino people. Had EDSA failed, civil war was inevitable. The Presidency of Cory Aquino prevented that. During her admin, the constitution was revised securing that the President only has 6 years in office and no possible re-election. The Presidency of Marcos gave us the lesson that huge foreign loans for infrastructure projects without or minimal investment returns could put the economy declining just like in Sri Lanka. The Marcos Presidency gave us lessons on Political Dynasty and overstaying politicians are trapos. I did not expect Aquino to loan as much as Marcos did or to stay for 20 years as President just like Marcos did. Your Marcos Lord has political agenda of being trapo in governance. 😂🤣
Pg post rappler cnu p b? Bbm p dn. Hahaha
hahah....bbm 2022
I challenge this man to a debate with Enrile
hahaha correct
enrile? father of revisionsim
@@MiguelLopez-tl4zs no
@@MiguelLopez-tl4zs mag aral po tayo mabuti. Hindi mo pwede iasa sakanya lang ang kaalaman mo. Lalo na rappler tong pinapanuod mo. Kawawa ka
@@christine6074 Tapos na ako ng kolehiyo at nag aaral sa UST ng abogasya. Marami akong librong binabasa na binabasehan ko.
Baka ikaw po ang kailangang mag aral ng mabuti :)
Npa k pla e
MARCOS, SAVIOR OF PHILIPPINES DEMOCRACY!
WITH THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT FERDINAND ROMUALDEZ MARCOS JR. , GOOD GOVERNANCE IS BACK!
Hakdog
o sige nga kung ikaw si Marcos anong gagawin mo nung time na yun nasa kagipitan ka na?
Kung may selective reading meron rin pala selective hearing. Sinabi na nga pwede nya gawin ang response na ginawa ni Magsaysay sa mga Huk? Pinanood at inintindi mo ba ng buo? Kakatawa.
Kumunista ka ba?
He already said that he is an anti-Communist historian
No. He's not.
In fact ayaw na ayaw siya ng mga komunista sa social media due to his strong anti-CPP-NPA-NDF stance.
Sorry but based on your study as historian you didn't mention that Marcos impose Martial Law not by only his decision... He had cabinet members and his not the master mind about it... I'm sorry for those who got caught because they are members of Communist but in that time Marcos knows something about Communist that CIA didn't know...
Marcos is an intelligent person and his an Army in his days.. based on how he handle Philippines in his time until now.. he still the best president... You can say he is dictator because he didn't want the people will become brainwashed by the communist who will ruin his great plan in this country. He had great vision for this country and you can say it's true but just what bongbong Marcos said.. the one that he didn't like about his father is President Marcos didn't like things who will not be a part for his vision to achieve his goal maybe you will misinterpret it if you have other plans which is bad. Marcos want to be a president for his next term because he want to make the Philippines to be great and communist will likely to infiltrate the government and will ruin his progress maybe that's his intentions.. so tell me if Marcos is good in his first term and you cannot say he is cruel then how can you say that in his 2nd term he only wants his position as president? He knows about Communist and he think if communist will take over his position the greatness of the Philippines will fall and that's how we are today, right?
For me, Marcos only want to save the Philippines not to torture it's people..
You cannot say CPP NPA is not a threat because they didn't have weapons, because they have the word and they will brainwashed the people and the people will likely to fight Marcos and that's why many got tortured. And CPP NPA is happy about it because it will ruin the image of marcos and they knew that if they can dirty the name of President Marcos they will gather more allies...
Thank you for this
This info tungkol sa cabinet meeting isnt new, maraming speeches si FM about this right? Most notably sa Cspan if I'm not mistaken. Sabi nga ni enrile no one else can declare it but you (FM) with his sit down with BBM. BUT that doesnt completely withdraw Marcos from ultimately deciding the fate of the Philippines. One thing is absolute though, he is surely to be pointed fingers at since he is the literal commander in chief. Just like what BBM said sa Toni Talks kung hindi ka handa macriticize wag ka pumasok sa pulitika, RIGHTFULLY SO. Like the prof said the communist threat was real however this does not give you a free pass to illegally detain and torture people on mere speculation with that logic dapat pala kinidnap yung pamliyang marcos at inexecute silang lahat tulad ng romanov family for treason, no justice but swift action those two are basically the same so tell me whats right there? Mali parin yun.
Yung mga kabinete niyang siya mismo ang pumili? Wala ring nakapalag sa legislatives kasi nga na kay Marcos na yung kapangyarihan. Balita nga si FEM lang daw mag-isa ang pumirma sa Martial Law. At tsaka matagal na nilang plano ang ML, code name pa nga nilang ginamit ay Oplan Sagittarius.
Yes, super agree.
Base on your self taught. It is best to leave this country. Your just wasting your time for this topic. You are just trying to convince someone to join on your group.
pro-Communist hahaha kastiguhin nyo SI Joma Sison
You have not even considered the threat of the rising MNLF. It was necessary for Pres Marcos to enact martial law due to the growing fear of the Filipino people. #BBM2022
Nagstart lang naman ang mnlf after martial law. Dahil din naman to sa massacre sa mga moro.
Nah I disagree
Hindi ka pa buhay nun utoy
Historian nga sya dba? Hahahahaha
@@dilarafuego9241 history in the books are distorted what should I expect from him? Hahaha
@@nanamagetvmoney8730 just another trash explanation from Marcos apologists. Pls do yourself a huge favor finding legitimate sources and educate yourself what truly happened. Your reasoning clearly shows how close minded you are. And what are your sources sa sinasabi mong distorted ang history? History written on books was gathered from facts and real experiences from real people under the Marcos martial law regime. Again buksan ang utak. D naman to para sayo kundi for the future of Filipinos. Be open po, wag maging ignorante. Help yourself!
@@dilarafuego9241 the problem with so-called genius historian of rappler they are not fair they don't look on the both side of story remember it is the winner who can rewrite/ write the history
@@dilarafuego9241 that's another reason I challenge him also with all of the historian rappler represent to a.formal.debate with the former senator Juan Ponce Enrile it doesn't if it is 3v1 5v1 or 10v1 we should see that.
BONG BONG MARCOS for president sana ibalik nya ang martial law para matahimik naman ang pilipinas!!!
Bakit communista ka ba? @nbi may komonesta dito oh
mag isip ka kabayan
It makes sense to me now. Thanks for this video, Sir Leloy!
Very impressive lecture. Thank you.
Ang cute nga ng History teacher natin kamukha ni Keanu Reeves😘 thank you Leloy sa mga lectures mo keep it up, ang dami naming natutuhan sa mga lectures mo, parang nasa university ako yan pa naman ang favorite ko, History at Political Science. Thanks for posting🙏🌈👍👍
Well said professor, leloy.
well explained sir
Enrile is open for face to face intellectual combat specially about martial law.
Yes, we need more debates. Yellows vs Reds. I know reds will accept. If yellows won't accept then they know they're wrong.
Finally The comment section smells good
Rich i should say rather than reach
well said prof...no martial law again... never again
So mas okey na para tayong nasa north korea ang nagpapalaki lang ng tyan ang aquino?. Dito mo inasa ang kaalaman mo?. Mag aral po maige
Dapat sinabi mo ki nanay mo cory ng agawin nya ang posisyon kay dating pangulong ferdinand e. marcos,dapat tinanggal nya na Uang martial law sa constitution.kung talagang masama,isipx2 din pag may time..😂
sabihin mo yan pag pinasok tayu ng terorista like maute...baka nasa bahay ka palang boom o kaya sa mall suicide bomber boom schools,church etc. sabihin mo never again😂🤣😅
Hahaha nakakatawa to, eh nagdeklara pa naman ng Martial Law si Duterte sa panahon ng digmaan sa Martial Law pero di mo pinatigil 😂.
duterte is just another marcos. history repeats itself.
nahh History doesnt repeat itself People repeats history
He declared martial law only in Mindanao because of terrorism not communism, and also he's not a dictator. So why are you calling Duterte an another Marcos? Doesn't make any sense at all.
@@denzguir567 in terms of corruptions coming from the duterte administration is synonymous to the marcoses plundering the nations wealth.
I don't like Duterte but nag
The infamous bradolf pitler
Ayaw ka ng mga... hehehe. Sorry bro, but you're good.
Medyu may kulang sa history mo. It was not limited only sa Luzon ang CPP-NPA kasi entire Philippines sila kumalat. At di naman gaanong nag decline ang population ng NPA after Marcos dahil kung nagdecline edi sana napatigil na iyan ni Cory. Kung tutuusin mas nagdecline ang population nila sa panahon ni Du30. At isa pa, yung mga sundalo at pulis noong panahon ni Marcos ay galing yun sa mass enlistment. At nalimutan mo din masabi na sa panahon ni Marcos nadakip si Joma Sison, yung founder ng CPP-NPA at napalaya sa panahon ni Cory Aquino. Regarding what you've said sa "Baguio thing" eh bakit di nila ginawa kung ganon naman pala? Well totoo bloody ang martial law ni Marcos kasi ibang konstitusyon ang binasehan ni Marcos nun unlike Martial Law ni Du30 na nakabase sa konstitusyon ni Cory Aquino.
Sino nagsabi nag decline? He literally repeated the word it grew