My jumps looks very similar. But how do you hold the jump until later on the ramp? Do you simply let the front wheel roll off and stand later? I guess I always want to pop before the front wheel rolls off bc it seems it’ll just drop once it leaves the lip if I wait for the pop.
Ok THIS is the video Ive been looking for. Why is was it so hard to find a video that demonstrates how to hold preload. So many videos about preload and how tining is important but so little on how to actually time, load and hold compressio
Is "holding pressure through the legs" actually not done by pressing/pushing down through the legs from a more "crouched" position then ?? If you are not slightly crouched to create the 'space' for pumping down through the legs up the jump face (i.e. like pumping a roller movement from crouched to standing) .... how do you hold pressure ? Or have I totally misunderstood and this is why I can't 'pop'. When you say the fundamental of jumping is holding pressure through the legs, does that actually mean getting into the right position and holding that position until the lip rather than actively crouching to push up the face through the legs to the lip ......... if I've explained my question clearly
@The MTB Wizard Yeah ... I think I've got that thanks Jason. I think where you say .."To create pressure doesn't mean you are using your thighs, and pushing against pedals," .... that is what I'm doing and was trying to describe. I press into the lip by crouching a bit and then pushing through the legs like a 'leg press' machine and try time that pressing process up the face to end the press off the lip. I'll try and picture what you mean by "using your whole body to create pressure". It sounds much less active that what I'm doing.
@The MTB Wizard Coming to this late, how do I hold pressure until my rear wheel is at the lip? Won't my front tire be already going over the lip and I'll now be at a more horizontal angle instead of the angle of the jump?
@@Mahargbot Your body and cranks will stay closer to level with sea-level as you press into jump. This means as bike moves up lip front of bike will move towards your chest. As front wheel leaves lip it will continue its upward travel and energy. You let this happen and continue to hold pressure through legs till back wheel reaches top of lip. If you dont the front tire will ha e a large arc and the rear tire (on small jumps especially) will never actaully receive the energy of the lip. This forces you to either land rear wheel short with front end high, or cup your feet to pull rear of bike up into an arc, putting you behind the bike and in a straight arm, bent knee body positionanding behind center of the bike.
@@TheMTB_Wizard thanks for explaining that, though how do I know when my rear wheel is at the lip? I’m having such a hard time with the timing. I always rush the jump and pop way too early. TIA
I thought you were meant to "crouch" before take off. So instead I'm meant to straighten (but still knees over toes) and apply pressure to the pedals, downwards. Then at the lip release pressure and let the bike come into me? The last part I've definitely got which is good. I just can't get any height with my jumps
I had the same thought. Seems that if your arms are too extended, but you straighten your legs and stand more upright at the beginning, then your arms will be even more extended...? I'm confused by the advice given this time, and maybe it's just a minor slipup from Simon on when the body position he described should occur.
I imagine the top part of the face of the jump as a big box to push and brace for that. Gets the body in the right position to hold compression. Cheers
No, the opposite is true. If you lean your upper body back, your arms straighten and then the rider is pulled forward as the bike crests the arc at the highest point in the jump. Part of the positioning we teach, and top riders use, is to ensure there is space left in your arms at the crest of the arc (elbow bend) so riders are not pulled forward. The single biggest cause of crashes where rides are pulled forward on jumps IS from getting the upper body back. Not intuitive, but certainly important!
@@Fluidride I think he is talking about extending the arms on the transition as your front wheel approaches the lip which is proper form. You definitely dont want to hit a lip with no extension in your arms because your weight will be in front of your rear wheel, which will rotate you forward in the air when your back wheel pops. In my opinion, this is the biggest cause of OTB. Proper form on a jump is basically like a mini bunny hop. I agree with you that you dont want your arms locked out in the air.
We have tons of how to video's on this topic on the site. Since Jeff lives in Australia, we were not able to show perfect form on his jump like he will be able to in the future, but browse around the page for some jumping instruction when you have time. Thanks! -Simon
Yep stand up all the way.
Thanks Simon.
Would love to see the progression in the next video on this same jump spot.
Great feedback, I have found your jump videos the most helpful of everything on You Tube.
Man that is an excellent jump to skill build on. I need to build that in my backyard
this is an excellent explanation!
My jumps looks very similar. But how do you hold the jump until later on the ramp? Do you simply let the front wheel roll off and stand later? I guess I always want to pop before the front wheel rolls off bc it seems it’ll just drop once it leaves the lip if I wait for the pop.
Ok THIS is the video Ive been looking for. Why is was it so hard to find a video that demonstrates how to hold preload. So many videos about preload and how tining is important but so little on how to actually time, load and hold compressio
Thanks so much for your kind feedback - we're really happy it's resonating!
My sentiments exactly! This kind of analysis is gold!
😃Great mtb video! I believe in you, you just earned a new subscribers!!
Is "holding pressure through the legs" actually not done by pressing/pushing down through the legs from a more "crouched" position then ?? If you are not slightly crouched to create the 'space' for pumping down through the legs up the jump face (i.e. like pumping a roller movement from crouched to standing) .... how do you hold pressure ? Or have I totally misunderstood and this is why I can't 'pop'. When you say the fundamental of jumping is holding pressure through the legs, does that actually mean getting into the right position and holding that position until the lip rather than actively crouching to push up the face through the legs to the lip ......... if I've explained my question clearly
@The MTB Wizard Yeah ... I think I've got that thanks Jason. I think where you say .."To create pressure doesn't mean you are using your thighs, and pushing against pedals," .... that is what I'm doing and was trying to describe. I press into the lip by crouching a bit and then pushing through the legs like a 'leg press' machine and try time that pressing process up the face to end the press off the lip. I'll try and picture what you mean by "using your whole body to create pressure". It sounds much less active that what I'm doing.
@The MTB Wizard Coming to this late, how do I hold pressure until my rear wheel is at the lip? Won't my front tire be already going over the lip and I'll now be at a more horizontal angle instead of the angle of the jump?
@@Mahargbot Your body and cranks will stay closer to level with sea-level as you press into jump. This means as bike moves up lip front of bike will move towards your chest. As front wheel leaves lip it will continue its upward travel and energy. You let this happen and continue to hold pressure through legs till back wheel reaches top of lip. If you dont the front tire will ha e a large arc and the rear tire (on small jumps especially) will never actaully receive the energy of the lip. This forces you to either land rear wheel short with front end high, or cup your feet to pull rear of bike up into an arc, putting you behind the bike and in a straight arm, bent knee body positionanding behind center of the bike.
@@TheMTB_Wizard thanks for explaining that, though how do I know when my rear wheel is at the lip? I’m having such a hard time with the timing. I always rush the jump and pop way too early. TIA
How did you go with your jumping?I confused by holding compression, does it mean to stay crouched?
I thought you were meant to "crouch" before take off. So instead I'm meant to straighten (but still knees over toes) and apply pressure to the pedals, downwards. Then at the lip release pressure and let the bike come into me? The last part I've definitely got which is good. I just can't get any height with my jumps
I had the same thought. Seems that if your arms are too extended, but you straighten your legs and stand more upright at the beginning, then your arms will be even more extended...? I'm confused by the advice given this time, and maybe it's just a minor slipup from Simon on when the body position he described should occur.
Just go with it kinda idk thats how i do it
I imagine the top part of the face of the jump as a big box to push and brace for that. Gets the body in the right position to hold compression.
Cheers
Won‘t the frontwheel drop down if you don‘t lean back your upper body?
No, the opposite is true. If you lean your upper body back, your arms straighten and then the rider is pulled forward as the bike crests the arc at the highest point in the jump. Part of the positioning we teach, and top riders use, is to ensure there is space left in your arms at the crest of the arc (elbow bend) so riders are not pulled forward. The single biggest cause of crashes where rides are pulled forward on jumps IS from getting the upper body back. Not intuitive, but certainly important!
@@Fluidride I think he is talking about extending the arms on the transition as your front wheel approaches the lip which is proper form. You definitely dont want to hit a lip with no extension in your arms because your weight will be in front of your rear wheel, which will rotate you forward in the air when your back wheel pops. In my opinion, this is the biggest cause of OTB. Proper form on a jump is basically like a mini bunny hop. I agree with you that you dont want your arms locked out in the air.
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Would be great to have a "proper form" video as comparison. This one is a bit confusing/counter intuitive.
We have tons of how to video's on this topic on the site. Since Jeff lives in Australia, we were not able to show perfect form on his jump like he will be able to in the future, but browse around the page for some jumping instruction when you have time. Thanks! -Simon