This guy doesn't like the Civic hatch at all. I can tell you that the trunk is HUGE. I have had no problem fitting a 65' tv - Big Craftsman workstations - to a yearly trip to Ikea, it fits it all. 👍🏼 Love my '18 sport touring!!
I had a 2015 golf GTI that could also fit a 65". But I had more vertical room than this. So he did make some valid points. With honda you're paying for perceived reliability, just like with Toyota
The lack of safety systems with Sensing (no blind spot monitoring, no rear cross traffic sensing), I opted to save money and buy a 2019 Type R, without Sensing (and I really wanted safety systems). And don't get me started on the "premium" stereo sound.
What I'd like back: 1. Conventional(hydraulic) power steering. 2. CD player What I do like: The moonroof! What I can do without: 1. The ridiculous tablet they put in all the cars nowadays. 2. Lane control(I got two arms for that).
@@err7273 And damn proud of it mind ya! We stood for common sense, behind the wheel and beneath the hood. I drive a 2010 car for that reason, and won't hesitate to seek out a decent mileage 2008-2009 when the time comes to let her go
@@Zickcermacity i can agree with that, i don’t really like having 90% of the car im driving be full of electronics. like the e-brake, it’s just an electronic button now, i’d rather have an actual level so i can actual feel like i’m doing something to the car. plus it’ll just be harder to fix things when they break in the future🤦🏽♂️ im only 19 but i know common sense when i see it
I've bought the 2020 SE model, it's brilliant. Tho not the top spec model, here in the UK it's pretty pointless as our roads are small, speed limits and speed cameras aswell as spped humps make getting the fastest version pointless, as an everyday car it's all you need really. Great on fuel. Very safe and mine being the SE only has a 1 ltr engine that'll still give 0-60 in 10s and a 120+ top speed but that's irrelevant in the UK as the fastest you can travel legally is 70mph.
I think the new civics look great! Way more eye-catching than the previous few generations or even compared to other contemporary compact cars. But the hatchback/Si/Type R specifically are the most attractive to me.
Liliana Camacho that’s why he recommends the normal sport instead of the touring. Get the normal sport, you save 5 grand and don’t have to deal with the glitchy equipment that is on the touring.
Oskar I wouldn’t buy a CVT, not yet. I’m curious to see when they start to fail. I’m sure it’s fine if you lease. As far as buying a used CVT car, I’d wait to see. Toyota recalled most of them already. I got an 06 civic automatic outside, Over 200k with the factory automatic still going and I have confidence still.
Nah, the newer turbos and CVTs from honda or subaru are fine. Smooth and efficient with infinite gear ratios and the turbos aren't under a lot of heat and PSI stress - unless you mod it . The nissan/jatco CVTs were crap and older turbos had to cool down for longevity. I've had a CRV since 2017 and it's been fine. No OD issues or anything. I remember when they said Vtec and torque vectoring was unreliable and yet I'm still enjoying my 1997 Prelude SH with no major repairs and practically all original parts.
Yeah...hehehe...that's a real question. I live in Canada where it can be minus 40 Fahrenheit for weeks on end...I wonder how many engines I would be replacing every winter LOL!
Ice car with plenty of room even in back seat. Try a Civi before buying a Accord. This generation Civic is as big as older Accords. I like the little chrome bar over ugly black outlets in rear and front. Good car with stupid CVT and great car with manual.
Trust me, CVT's are not hard to find. I've got this car (in polished metal) with a manual transmission arriving in a couple of weeks from Colorado.....I live in California...That is the nearest stealership that carried the trim I wanted. Manuals are incredibly rare.
You heard wrong, I had 154,000 on my 2014 civic coupe cvt before I traded in for a 2020 Honda Civic ex hatchback. There are a lot of Honda cvt's out there with over 200,000 Miles. Honda arguably has the best cvt in the industry... a traditional automatic and CVT from a good manufacturer both maintained properly I believe the CVT would last longer. It has 5 times less moving Parts then a traditional automatic.
In many ways i like my 19 civic, same color as ur tester. I have averaged 35.6 mpg over the past 13k miles, what i do not like is few: super laggy infotainment, useless right side mirror camera, uncomfortable seats on long drives, way too low seating position, and i am 6’ tall! What i do not like is honda’s insistence in making the civic so damn big on the outside. This is my fourth civic since 1994 and the largest. I always liked the civic for its small size and nimbleness but much of that is lost in this newest version
Honestly tired of these being classified as compact cars. they are the size of early 2000 honda accords now. Same with CR-V and Rav4. They are not compact anymore, so the classification should change.
Liliana Camacho I had a 2002 accord and a 2016 civic at the same time. Interior space was very similar between the two. Almost did a video about it but never got around to it.
If you want a fun, reliable, efficient, "compact" hatch with a stick, you have to look at "sub-compacts" like the FIT Sport. We have the new CRV (based on the Civic) and yeah, it's pretty big in comparison. It's called a compact SUV in the US but considered a Mid-sized in pretty much every other country. The interior room does rival other US mid-sized SUVs.
Every test of a car with manual transmissions available the driver assumes that people who don’t want a manual do not know how to drive a manual. I was driving manual transmissions long before this guy was born but this was before traffic jams that leave you stopping and going for most of your trip. It gets old fast.
Haha true! Honda said they "fixed" the oil dilution with a software update but that is not true. There are already dozens of complaints of 2020's with gas in their oil.
@@joshuasmith1215 driving.ca/honda/auto-news/news/software-update-will-fix-honda-cr-v-and-civic-problems I've read it on multiple sites but this explains it well. Site is Canadian but they all have the same engiine.
@@setdecinmotion6719 Sitting in showroom drooling over the type R right now. Went with the 2020 civic sport hatchback with the manual transmission. Beautiful little car.
@@americanmutt5426 Congratulations. Good pick. I also have the Sport Touring hatchback, but with the CVT. The manual was not an option available the year i purchased. But nonetheless, its been a fun car to drive and super comfortable over the rough roads and highways were I live. I kinda disagree with the with the reviewer of this review, I did not find the GTI nor the Hyundai Elandra hatchback more favorable. Oh well, maybe someday, Type-R purchase!!
...."fewer and fewer people know how to use a shifter and a clutch pedal..... (7:40) " !!!!! Is that true? It seems to be a totaly different driving world in USA. (Personaly I' ve never driven a car with auto gears)
@@Gyuresssz Yes, there is. But very few people get one because, even they may have an "automatic" they will not be able to drive the manuals which are the majority. However, automatic cars are getting more and more the last years.
Great unbiased review. What can you say about having a TURBO CVT engine would it last as daily car for 10 years? I never had a CVT car and I read many bad comments and review on it. Thanks.
do you research, not all CVTs are made the same. We never had an issue with our 2 Honda's cvt over 4 years, 50k miles. Never seen, heard anyone complaining about the cvt's longivity.
@@ac3shi6h We're doing our research, John. That's why we asked since there are tons of negative reviews even on ScottyKilmer and other people. There are also oil dilution problem on Civic which is the reason for a recall from Honda. Also read Cesar's comment above you and other comments. They're hearing the same stuffs, that's why we ask. Your comment is good except your opening sentence, bad choice of words.
Nah, the newer ones from honda or subaru are fine. Smooth and efficient with infinite gear ratios. The nissan/jatco ones were crap. I drove stick all my life until we got CVT Honda a few yrs ago. It's been completely fine.
For me, I like the car. I know people take issue with the overall design, but when you see it in person Its really quite nice. I'm going to use mine as a daily driver. I like the amount of space the hatches offer which makes the Si a bit too small for my tastes and the Type R is just overkill as a daily driver. If I had the money for a Type R, i'd just go all the way and get an actual luxury car like a BMW. I'm sure the Golf offers better performance, but i'm so done with all things VW. They've been nothing buy headaches for me and everyone I know.
It's really a shame Honda can't build an attractive exterior. I would get the SI though given its amazing price point. I would just have to deal with never looking at my car
Blake Swan, totally feel the same. I can’t for the life of me understand what they were thinking with the ugly fake vents. Especially in the rear of the Si Sedan. It totally ruins it. They took the cheap and easy way out and added the silly body color line instead of doing an actual refresh of the front and rear that it desperately needed.
Not a fan of the "snail" shape. Not a fan of the busy front and rear styling, not a fan of having to buy more expensive 18 inch tires... definitely not a fan of the CVT transmission...not a fan of turbocharged small engines...in short...I'm out! I guess I'll have to wait until the next generation comes along...and then I'll see.
If you're even considering a car like this why not just go with a Civic sedan? 16 inch tires on the LX...not turbocharged...CVTs are a reality for cars in this price range though.
@@joshuasmith1215 Well it's like this...I am a retired body repair man and painter...my brother is a retired automotive and heavy duty mechanic...we have often said that if we don't like the choice of new vehicles, we will just build a pair of cars on our own...the way we want them. If I'm gonna have to spend about $40,000 on a car, I should at least have something I actually want. At least that's the talk...I don't know about the reality LOL!
@@joshuasmith1215 That's because by the time we quit arguing about whether it should have polycarbonate side and rear windows, or a turbocharged engine, and come to an agreement... a Civic will be worth $40,000 dollars by then LOL! Seriously we have talked about this for a long time but my brother keeps making suggestions about the body work...and that's MY area of expertise! Of course...I'm no better I suggested a fully balanced and blueprinted small V8 with a redline of 12,000 RPM ...just to get him going. Truthfully...we will probably NEVER build anything, but we have fun arguing...especially about the Opel GT we owned back in the day. It's a recreational thing at this point.
Honda needs to wake their sleeping design team. Hondas have never been uglier. Where is the sleek lines? Where is the sexiness. They have my vote on everything but look. This is an ugly car.
@@brianbuchert6382 nah, it's too busy. They overshot. To many angles and cheap plastic b.s. Also 4 doors are cars for the family. 2 door coupes are where its at.
fixplanes that’s still subjective! All those things YOU consider good thing me or somebody els might like I have 3 older kids and I’d love for all of us to get into my turbo civic if they wanted to so like I said your opinion is subjective if you aren’t using a universal fact it can’t be anything els!!
I think it’s pretty cool looking and you can’t beat Honda reliability. That’s said I’m sure the GTI or Jetta are superior performers and driving cars, just wish VW would update their styling to something a little less boring
I just put a deposit down on the Hatch Sport with a manual. You need to order them. As for price I paid 21,600 thru Costco. You can't get the Si in Hatch trim other wise I would have done it and I really don't need the extra 25hp and insurance cost and needing to use premium (they really need it) as much as I want the space.
Disagree with most of of this review. Gearbox and engine are very satisfying, throws are excellent, car hugs the road, power seats are better than manual, looks amazing. Go for a test drive and try it for yourself, Reviews are just reviews.Buy German and you'll pay dearly down the road...
In the market for a new manual hatch (after driving for 14 years a GREAT and reliable Mazda Protege 5 hatch). Seriously considered Honda until today. Reasons: #1 "Every single one of them has a Turbocharged engine"=They're expensive to fix and you must put Premium gas ALWAYS to ensure longevity. #2 "Cruise Control suddenly brakes the car for no apparent reason"...What?!?! #3 No blind spot monitor system = Really?!?! >>> I hate that in Europe you have better car choices than here. Why not make a good but not Turbocharged manual?! The VW GTI has too many plastic parts under the hood, the Mazda 3 only offers manual in their most expensive trim and rear view is not existent (dangerous!) and Subaru (brand I'm was also considering) has had many recalls lately...so I'm afraid. I guess I'll keep on driving my car until it literally dies!
I'm in the same boat as you right now but am currently driving a 2015 Altima with a cvt,Nissan is an absolute POS and i need to get away from it before it costs me big bucks in repairs. I'm currently looking at a 2020 sport hatchback but want the 2.0 and not the 1.5.
@@americanmutt5426 Thanks so much for your input. It gives me a lot to think about. If your car is only 5 years old and that CVT Transmission is giving you problems, this confirms even more that those transmissions are not reliable. I hope you get a better vehicle in the future. Best wishes!
@@khunterkid Thanks so much for the tip, but I don't want a sedan. I want a hatchback...hence my frustration with what's on the market today. Most manufacturers are obsessed with TURBOS.
@@khunterkid not to mention - the 2.0 is good old fashioned port injected (not direct injected). A great advantage for someone such as myself that wants a long lasting, reliable engine.
I went to the dealership to look at the Civic hatch. I agree the trunk is not that big, the paint is terrible and especially between the hatch and the door jams where it’s unfinished with lots of orange peel. I don’t know if the oil dilution is really fixed, CVT is junk interns of driving experience and reliability. Last this Civic is too expensive and you have to use premium gas!?!? Come on Honda your not selling an Acura here.
The civic hatchback is actually really good. Paint is okay depending on color but in sport touring is sharp. Infotainment is better when left on apple car play which is what I do anyways. Is plug in and be done with it. Oil dilution is with any DI engine and not a big deal considering what my German cars and others like focus ST go through. CVT is no ZF but does the job for dull daily traffic driving. I am a fan of rowing my own gears and have a manual for weekends but for daily cvt is easy and good for fuel economy. My work commute I have been avg 36 mpg on highway coming from 24 on my 17 fusion ecoboost. The premium fuel is not necessary but recommend. The only complaint I have is the Adaptive cruise and lane keep need to be perfected. Also the resale value for the hatch sport is much stronger than the base LX or Ex
I always find Honda vehicles appealing. But in this case I'll stick with my GTI or the Jetta GLI. Better performance and better handling in the similar product category.
This guy doesn't like the Civic hatch at all. I can tell you that the trunk is HUGE. I have had no problem fitting a 65' tv - Big Craftsman workstations - to a yearly trip to Ikea, it fits it all. 👍🏼 Love my '18 sport touring!!
I know what a jagoff
I had a 2015 golf GTI that could also fit a 65". But I had more vertical room than this. So he did make some valid points. With honda you're paying for perceived reliability, just like with Toyota
This car is BEAUTIFUL. Yes, I really think so
the reviewer in biased against this car to begin with
Agree, this review felt biased against.
My 2018 sport hatch is awesome. And the 2020 is even better.
He may dislike all Hondas, just look at the comments on his Insight review.
Nobody:
“This car is perfect for people who take their hydration seriously”
I love a car that has a built in rolling tray.
I like hatchbacks...
@CarGurus, bravo! A manual transmission highest trim Sport Touring is extremely rare to find indeed!
lots of space, i easily put my 65-inch tv in the back.
Ahaha yesss I literally just wrote the same comment!!!👍🏼 The trunk is HUGE!!!
Brand new with packaging?
had the car for 3 days, i really love the car. You can hear a little exhaust tone from inside the car too
All the alternatives cost a lot more than the base trim level though.
The lack of safety systems with Sensing (no blind spot monitoring, no rear cross traffic sensing), I opted to save money and buy a 2019 Type R, without Sensing (and I really wanted safety systems). And don't get me started on the "premium" stereo sound.
What I'd like back:
1. Conventional(hydraulic) power steering.
2. CD player
What I do like:
The moonroof!
What I can do without:
1. The ridiculous tablet they put in all the cars nowadays.
2. Lane control(I got two arms for that).
you’re stuck in 2010 no offense
@@err7273 And damn proud of it mind ya! We stood for common sense, behind the wheel and beneath the hood. I drive a 2010 car for that reason, and won't hesitate to seek out a decent mileage 2008-2009 when the time comes to let her go
@@Zickcermacity i can agree with that, i don’t really like having 90% of the car im driving be full of electronics. like the e-brake, it’s just an electronic button now, i’d rather have an actual level so i can actual feel like i’m doing something to the car. plus it’ll just be harder to fix things when they break in the future🤦🏽♂️ im only 19 but i know common sense when i see it
I always hear great things about Honda manuals
My dream car.
4:38 perfect car for Eddie Hall
I've bought the 2020 SE model, it's brilliant. Tho not the top spec model, here in the UK it's pretty pointless as our roads are small, speed limits and speed cameras aswell as spped humps make getting the fastest version pointless, as an everyday car it's all you need really. Great on fuel. Very safe and mine being the SE only has a 1 ltr engine that'll still give 0-60 in 10s and a 120+ top speed but that's irrelevant in the UK as the fastest you can travel legally is 70mph.
I have 19..work for Honda
Its pretty badass lil car..plenty fast and handles well
Chris you do a great job. You keep things professional and simple with the details that is needed.
*Chris, You nailed the Civic's looks issue perfectly!* Good job.
I think the new civics look great! Way more eye-catching than the previous few generations or even compared to other contemporary compact cars. But the hatchback/Si/Type R specifically are the most attractive to me.
That sport touring for $29K is way to much for a damn civic
Keyur Patel ikr at that price you are already in the Accord or Acura pricing.
Liliana Camacho that’s why he recommends the normal sport instead of the touring. Get the normal sport, you save 5 grand and don’t have to deal with the glitchy equipment that is on the touring.
Yeah picked up the sport trim instead. Honestly would’ve got the touring of it was 24-25k but definitely not 29k
Why did you test drive this car if you criticize just about everything about it
Doesn’t the turbo and CVT greatly reduce the long term reliability/life of the car?
Oskar I wouldn’t buy a CVT, not yet. I’m curious to see when they start to fail. I’m sure it’s fine if you lease. As far as buying a used CVT car, I’d wait to see. Toyota recalled most of them already. I got an 06 civic automatic outside, Over 200k with the factory automatic still going and I have confidence still.
Nah, the newer turbos and CVTs from honda or subaru are fine. Smooth and efficient with infinite gear ratios and the turbos aren't under a lot of heat and PSI stress - unless you mod it . The nissan/jatco CVTs were crap and older turbos had to cool down for longevity. I've had a CRV since 2017 and it's been fine. No OD issues or anything. I remember when they said Vtec and torque vectoring was unreliable and yet I'm still enjoying my 1997 Prelude SH with no major repairs and practically all original parts.
Jim Kalfakis Toyota recalled their CVTs because there's a manufacturing error in the launch gear.
@@Phrancis5 what about Carbon Build Up On that GDI engine anda Oil Dilution Issue??
I think a 2010 Accord or Civic would suit me well.
It’s a shape you get used to more than love.
“You’re on your own with help from the side view mirror of course”.... bro just turn your head?🤣 not that tough
Man I got my sport civic for 19k. So blessed
Dan h, bought mine at 19k also. Great driving car.
Did the oil smell like Gasoline?
Honda fixed that issue in the 2019s.
Yeah...hehehe...that's a real question. I live in Canada where it can be minus 40 Fahrenheit for weeks on end...I wonder how many engines I would be replacing every winter LOL!
@@markanthony3275 But some "software wizardry" should take care of the problem. Hold on let me take a swig of some Kool-Aid.
@@BTC909 lol
Ivan Vojt the software update reprogrammed the speed of the fuel injectors and heats the car faster
Honda’s The New Millennials Lamborghini’s
in what universe is that a compact car ?
It’s only .9 inches longer about 1 inch wider and 1 inch taller than my 2008 civic sedan
Ice car with plenty of room even in back seat. Try a Civi before buying a Accord. This generation Civic is as big as older Accords. I like the little chrome bar over ugly black outlets in rear and front. Good car with stupid CVT and great car with manual.
Give it an automatic transmission with real gears and I'm sold. I'm sure a lot of others would be as well.
Trust me, CVT's are not hard to find. I've got this car (in polished metal) with a manual transmission arriving in a couple of weeks from Colorado.....I live in California...That is the nearest stealership that carried the trim I wanted. Manuals are incredibly rare.
Nah, the newer CVTs from honda or subaru are fine. Smooth and efficient with infinite gear ratios. The nissan/jatco ones were crap.
Kia Forte GT all the way. 200hp and better equipped... And a Dual Clutch!!!
Not happy about the CVT. Heard it will have to be replaced after 6-7 years at $6,000!
Where did you hear that?
You heard wrong, I had 154,000 on my 2014 civic coupe cvt before I traded in for a 2020 Honda Civic ex hatchback. There are a lot of Honda cvt's out there with over 200,000 Miles. Honda arguably has the best cvt in the industry... a traditional automatic and CVT from a good manufacturer both maintained properly I believe the CVT would last longer. It has 5 times less moving Parts then a traditional automatic.
In many ways i like my 19 civic, same color as ur tester. I have averaged 35.6 mpg over the past 13k miles, what i do not like is few: super laggy infotainment, useless right side mirror camera, uncomfortable seats on long drives, way too low seating position, and i am 6’ tall! What i do not like is honda’s insistence in making the civic so damn big on the outside. This is my fourth civic since 1994 and the largest. I always liked the civic for its small size and nimbleness but much of that is lost in this newest version
Honestly tired of these being classified as compact cars. they are the size of early 2000 honda accords now. Same with CR-V and Rav4. They are not compact anymore, so the classification should change.
Joshua Collins I think they were the size of the mid 90’s accords.
Liliana Camacho I had a 2002 accord and a 2016 civic at the same time. Interior space was very similar between the two. Almost did a video about it but never got around to it.
EPA considers the civic a midsize as of 2016. Branding is still marketing it as a compact. It does have the 2000s accord size now.
If you want a fun, reliable, efficient, "compact" hatch with a stick, you have to look at "sub-compacts" like the FIT Sport. We have the new CRV (based on the Civic) and yeah, it's pretty big in comparison. It's called a compact SUV in the US but considered a Mid-sized in pretty much every other country. The interior room does rival other US mid-sized SUVs.
Phrancis5 Yep yep. I actually ordered a 2020 Honda Fit sport with manual.
Every test of a car with manual transmissions available the driver assumes that people who don’t want a manual do not know how to drive a manual. I was driving manual transmissions long before this guy was born but this was before traffic jams that leave you stopping and going for most of your trip. It gets old fast.
How old are you?
I really want a moonroof. How's the ex vs the sport?
Sport doesn't have a sunroof
Blackout headlights?
Mine didn’t lol
Does this civic come with the oil dilution as an added feature?
That's why I'm out, even if they "fix" the issue for 2020. I'll go with the non-turbocharged engine.
Haha true! Honda said they "fixed" the oil dilution with a software update but that is not true. There are already dozens of complaints of 2020's with gas in their oil.
@@davidtodd1037 where did you get the info I'd like to look into it
@@joshuasmith1215 driving.ca/honda/auto-news/news/software-update-will-fix-honda-cr-v-and-civic-problems
I've read it on multiple sites but this explains it well. Site is Canadian but they all have the same engiine.
Can't seem to find a 2020 sport hatchback with the 2.0. WTH?!?!
2.0 available in the Type-R Civic.
@@setdecinmotion6719 Sitting in showroom drooling over the type R right now. Went with the 2020 civic sport hatchback with the manual transmission. Beautiful little car.
@@americanmutt5426 Congratulations. Good pick. I also have the Sport Touring hatchback, but with the CVT. The manual was not an option available the year i purchased. But nonetheless, its been a fun car to drive and super comfortable over the rough roads and highways were I live. I kinda disagree with the with the reviewer of this review, I did not find the GTI nor the Hyundai Elandra hatchback more favorable. Oh well, maybe someday, Type-R purchase!!
Turbo, not interested, CVT not interested
Agree 100%!!!
Premium gaz for a civic? Hell no
cvt....ugh
You lost me at $29K
Loaded trim.
Yeah it's alot. And sadly it's kinda the case with the Corolla and Mazda3 as well.
That's why u buy the sport hatch at 23. Even that slightly clueless dude said that.
Got the top trim , a 2020 sport touring for 27k otd . It was worth it for the upgrades
...."fewer and fewer people know how to use a shifter and a clutch pedal..... (7:40) " !!!!! Is that true? It seems to be a totaly different driving world in USA. (Personaly I' ve never driven a car with auto gears)
There's even "only automatic" driver's licence too I believe. Automatic is the commom thing the US.
@@Gyuresssz Yes, there is. But very few people get one because, even they may have an "automatic" they will not be able to drive the manuals which are the majority.
However, automatic cars are getting more and more the last years.
Great unbiased review. What can you say about having a TURBO CVT engine would it last as daily car for 10 years? I never had a CVT car and I read many bad comments and review on it. Thanks.
Based on what I hear from mechanics and other owners, all of them advise me against buying a car w/a CVT transmission.
do you research, not all CVTs are made the same. We never had an issue with our 2 Honda's cvt over 4 years, 50k miles. Never seen, heard anyone complaining about the cvt's longivity.
@@ac3shi6h We're doing our research, John. That's why we asked since there are tons of negative reviews even on ScottyKilmer and other people. There are also oil dilution problem on Civic which is the reason for a recall from Honda. Also read Cesar's comment above you and other comments. They're hearing the same stuffs, that's why we ask.
Your comment is good except your opening sentence, bad choice of words.
Did you say this civic requires premium gas??
my 2019 LX i put premium.
Recommended not required
Only the ones with more than 174 horsepower do. And it isn't required. Just recommended (to get full performance)
Jack Black agreed. Full tank lasts me almost a month.
cvt-nononononononononooooooooooooooooo
Have you actually driven it? We have one with a CVT. It is excellent and the paddles work great.
Nah, the newer ones from honda or subaru are fine. Smooth and efficient with infinite gear ratios. The nissan/jatco ones were crap. I drove stick all my life until we got CVT Honda a few yrs ago. It's been completely fine.
Why you hate Civic so much?
For 29k you may as well get the R (it’s more but if you can afford one you can afford the other) or at least an Si.
That's another $5-6k and that's If you can get MSRP.
Wish they’d make the Si engine an option in the sport
For me, I like the car. I know people take issue with the overall design, but when you see it in person Its really quite nice. I'm going to use mine as a daily driver. I like the amount of space the hatches offer which makes the Si a bit too small for my tastes and the Type R is just overkill as a daily driver. If I had the money for a Type R, i'd just go all the way and get an actual luxury car like a BMW. I'm sure the Golf offers better performance, but i'm so done with all things VW. They've been nothing buy headaches for me and everyone I know.
It's really a shame Honda can't build an attractive exterior. I would get the SI though given its amazing price point. I would just have to deal with never looking at my car
Blake Swan, totally feel the same. I can’t for the life of me understand what they were thinking with the ugly fake vents. Especially in the rear of the Si Sedan. It totally ruins it. They took the cheap and easy way out and added the silly body color line instead of doing an actual refresh of the front and rear that it desperately needed.
That rear fascia is ugly AF. Seriously boy racer-ish....
Future teenage rice boys are going to love these cars in 10 years
Not a fan of the "snail" shape. Not a fan of the busy front and rear styling, not a fan of having to buy more expensive 18 inch tires... definitely not a fan of the CVT transmission...not a fan of turbocharged small engines...in short...I'm out! I guess I'll have to wait until the next generation comes along...and then I'll see.
If you're even considering a car like this why not just go with a Civic sedan? 16 inch tires on the LX...not turbocharged...CVTs are a reality for cars in this price range though.
@@joshuasmith1215 Well it's like this...I am a retired body repair man and painter...my brother is a retired automotive and heavy duty mechanic...we have often said that if we don't like the choice of new vehicles, we will just build a pair of cars on our own...the way we want them. If I'm gonna have to spend about $40,000 on a car, I should at least have something I actually want. At least that's the talk...I don't know about the reality LOL!
@@markanthony3275 I'm confused..the Civic LX is approximately a $21,000 car...that's about half of the $40,000 you mentioned...
@@joshuasmith1215 That's because by the time we quit arguing about whether it should have polycarbonate side and rear windows, or a turbocharged engine, and come to an agreement... a Civic will be worth $40,000 dollars by then LOL! Seriously we have talked about this for a long time but my brother keeps making suggestions about the body work...and that's MY area of expertise! Of course...I'm no better I suggested a fully balanced and blueprinted small V8 with a redline of 12,000 RPM ...just to get him going. Truthfully...we will probably NEVER build anything, but we have fun arguing...especially about the Opel GT we owned back in the day. It's a recreational thing at this point.
way too high price for a diminuitive engine and abodythat ;looks like a toilet
jay czyzyk what kinda toilets do you have? Lol
Honda needs to wake their sleeping design team. Hondas have never been uglier. Where is the sleek lines? Where is the sexiness. They have my vote on everything but look. This is an ugly car.
Ditto... from Canada! They must have contracted the styling out to Subaru LOL!
Styling is subjective I love the look especially the civic si
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@@brianbuchert6382 nah, it's too busy. They overshot. To many angles and cheap plastic b.s. Also 4 doors are cars for the family. 2 door coupes are where its at.
fixplanes that’s still subjective! All those things YOU consider good thing me or somebody els might like I have 3 older kids and I’d love for all of us to get into my turbo civic if they wanted to so like I said your opinion is subjective if you aren’t using a universal fact it can’t be anything els!!
Ugly way way far from mazda designs transmission suck CVT
I had 2 civics! They are excellent traveling cars. Im thinking about getting another one
Get the type r
What kind do you have?
I think it’s pretty cool looking and you can’t beat Honda reliability. That’s said I’m sure the GTI or Jetta are superior performers and driving cars, just wish VW would update their styling to something a little less boring
Thankfully my friend sold me his 2018 Civic Si for 15K..I just can't imagine paying 25-30K for these new Civics!
You took your friend for a ride with that deal. Or there's something seriously wrong with it.
@@TheLivedeath He bought a new Tesla S, he's loaded and he said the Si is a nice car but nothing like these new Tesla's.
I just put a deposit down on the Hatch Sport with a manual. You need to order them. As for price I paid 21,600 thru Costco. You can't get the Si in Hatch trim other wise I would have done it and I really don't need the extra 25hp and insurance cost and needing to use premium (they really need it) as much as I want the space.
I paid more than 35k with taxes included for the Honda 2020 civic sport hatchback definitely worth it
T salinger1026 which state do you live in? I’m looking to buy a new civic sport hatch but can’t really find one under 23k in NC
Disagree with most of of this review. Gearbox and engine are very satisfying, throws are excellent, car hugs the road, power seats are better than manual, looks amazing. Go for a test drive and try it for yourself, Reviews are just reviews.Buy German and you'll pay dearly down the road...
Touring is not affordable for some
We want a video on the Civic sedan, please.
In the market for a new manual hatch (after driving for 14 years a GREAT and reliable Mazda Protege 5 hatch). Seriously considered Honda until today. Reasons: #1 "Every single one of them has a Turbocharged engine"=They're expensive to fix and you must put Premium gas ALWAYS to ensure longevity. #2 "Cruise Control suddenly brakes the car for no apparent reason"...What?!?! #3 No blind spot monitor system = Really?!?! >>> I hate that in Europe you have better car choices than here. Why not make a good but not Turbocharged manual?! The VW GTI has too many plastic parts under the hood, the Mazda 3 only offers manual in their most expensive trim and rear view is not existent (dangerous!) and Subaru (brand I'm was also considering) has had many recalls lately...so I'm afraid. I guess I'll keep on driving my car until it literally dies!
I'm in the same boat as you right now but am currently driving a 2015 Altima with a cvt,Nissan is an absolute POS and i need to get away from it before it costs me big bucks in repairs. I'm currently looking at a 2020 sport hatchback but want the 2.0 and not the 1.5.
@@americanmutt5426 Thanks so much for your input. It gives me a lot to think about. If your car is only 5 years old and that CVT Transmission is giving you problems, this confirms even more that those transmissions are not reliable. I hope you get a better vehicle in the future. Best wishes!
You can get a civic sport sedan with 2.0 naturally aspirated with a six speed manual for about 23k.
@@khunterkid Thanks so much for the tip, but I don't want a sedan. I want a hatchback...hence my frustration with what's on the market today. Most manufacturers are obsessed with TURBOS.
@@khunterkid not to mention - the 2.0 is good old fashioned port injected (not direct injected). A great advantage for someone such as myself that wants a long lasting, reliable engine.
There’s no manual civic in Australia except TypeR😭
I went to the dealership to look at the Civic hatch. I agree the trunk is not that big, the paint is terrible and especially between the hatch and the door jams where it’s unfinished with lots of orange peel. I don’t know if the oil dilution is really fixed, CVT is junk interns of driving experience and reliability. Last this Civic is too expensive and you have to use premium gas!?!? Come on Honda your not selling an Acura here.
The civic hatchback is actually really good. Paint is okay depending on color but in sport touring is sharp. Infotainment is better when left on apple car play which is what I do anyways. Is plug in and be done with it. Oil dilution is with any DI engine and not a big deal considering what my German cars and others like focus ST go through. CVT is no ZF but does the job for dull daily traffic driving. I am a fan of rowing my own gears and have a manual for weekends but for daily cvt is easy and good for fuel economy. My work commute I have been avg 36 mpg on highway coming from 24 on my 17 fusion ecoboost. The premium fuel is not necessary but recommend. The only complaint I have is the Adaptive cruise and lane keep need to be perfected. Also the resale value for the hatch sport is much stronger than the base LX or Ex
that huge breaklight at the back really looks unneccessary and stupid imo
I always find Honda vehicles appealing. But in this case I'll stick with my GTI or the Jetta GLI. Better performance and better handling in the similar product category.
That's not really a good comparison. The GTI/GLI compete with the Si Civic, which doesn't come with a hatch