I knew about this one but it's so far out of the way that I didn't think as many people would be scammed by it as they would by something like Into the Echo though looking at it again I probably should have had a dishonorable mentions list
you seriously deserve a million subs. production value is epic level, dunks on any game reviewer i've ever watched - in writing, humor, insight, and editing. Refine the alchemy to 1 million. Something from someone as talented as you is bound to viral
Holy shit I am so happy to finally stumble upong this channel. Every video is a banger. The edits, the pretty far out there momemes and jokes. I really hope you make it dude and get enough patreons to just do this full time.
2:23 I actually went and closed my eyes when you suggested that the viewer should do that. Even without all of the visuals you edited into the vid I started imagining something way WAY cooler than the ashfall gameplay you show about a minute later.
Just found your content today and I'm loving it. I just started Black Desert and I was very hesitant due to pay-to-win and pvp aspects, but I got to say, it really isn't as I bad as I thought. I've really gotten into it and haven't been tempted to purchase anything yet. You can buy cash shop items in the player market place. That, and there's hard caps of how much cash shop items you can sale. Someone broke down the math in one of the reviews. I'm, more or less, curious what your opinion is?
Of all the ones on this list I hope Im the most wrong about Corepunk. I really want a top-down mmo with the same feel, I just hope the game speed is increased
I use the Rode Wireless Go II for recordings and then just EQ it through my editing software. Keep in mind that depending on what country you're in, it can get quite pricey. I got lucky and managed to pick mine up second hand. If you're on a tight budget and looking to start out there's nothing wrong with using something like a blue yeti. You don't have to get the most expensive mic in the world, just make sure you're not dealing with unmanageable interference
Its actually pretty crazy to me how its monetized while having ncsoft attached to the game in any way at all. Every time I log in I can see all the ways it could be so much worse and just isnt
Another fellow L2 vet here! Played from Prelude through Gracia, on Hindemith (before it merged with Gustin). Looks like T&L is turning out exactly how this video describes... maybe even worse. Wish I could I say I was surprised. NCSoft is a soulless money farming machine anymore. After how they destroyed L2 with GoD, telling us "we totes won't put any pay-to-win in the cash shop because it's a PvP MMO and it would be unfair!"... only to turn around and do exactly that - starting from GoD's launch. Nah. I don't trust them with anything anymore. I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was windy during a hurricane.
What fascinates me about nc soft is that they should now better. They have published good games with great communities and a not too bad cash shop. How do you look at Guild Wars 2 and go: Ok now let’s not do that again. Edit: sprlling
Katana Zero - Nocturne Persona 5 - Rivers in the Desert Ashfall - Trailer Music Fallout 3 - Main Theme Cyberpunk 2077 - Hyper (shittyflute version) Corepunk - Trailer Music Katana Zero - Third District Crimson Desert - Trailer Music World of Warcraft - Argent Tournament Day Throne and Liberty - Trailer Music Blasphemous - March of the Twisted One Songs appear in this order and I'm assuming what you're looking for is somewhere in here. Other stuff I use is just short clips of a few songs that only pop in for a second or 2
I wish if Funcom revived the old game Age Of Conan and gave it a nice re-design of animations, mechanics and graphics for 2025! It already has a great story and unique identity amongst MMOs!
About Throne and Liberty and those million players, if we look at Lineage saga games they probably mean 100 "whales" each with 10.000 bots running on their personal NASA servers and like 10-15.000 normal players trying to scam each other for the scraps :)
even if Throne is p2w af im still going to play it. Looks like a better version of Archeage and I LOVED that game till they fucked up the skilltrees and everything else in the world
I love your videos man, just recently discovered them. Keep up the good work and humor, even though your input might be not as high when you put in much effort - at least I hope your numbers will go through the roof!
this was so funny, but also really eye opening. I actually didn't realize ncsoft is so predatory, I only vaguely remembered them being publisher of gw2, and gw2's gem shop is actually super reasonable since I can convert gold into gems - several years ago when I played more, I bought all my gem store QoL stuff with gold I collected in game. didnt spend a single dime aside from buying the game/expansions. I had no idea most/all of rest of ncsoft's games are that predatory p2w. i...I guess I should feel glad/lucky that gw2 managed to retain that even after all these years. also should be glad ncsoft didn't axe it already for not being profitable 😂
Well, no. I'm pretty sure it was clear, at least perfectly clear for me since the start that Crimson Desert is like the Prequel to Black Desert and will be a singleplayer game with a deep story, and would possibly eventually have a lobby where you might show your progress to other players, but it will never be an actual multiplayer game of any sort.
Crimson Desert was confirmed not to be a true mmorpg ages ago. Also, I gotta be honest emptying out your bank account to progress on BDO isn't really goinna do much these days. Most the relevant PVP is all gear capped with really low beginner stats, p2w has never been efficient money wise and even less so now because the caps/catch up mechanics/etc. As much as I would love to shit on BDO, and there are a ton of things to give it shit for, it's really actually incredibly f2p friendly and in a great spot right now. Drop $50 one time purchase for the tent then youre cozy. Even all the pay-for-convenience shit isnt really required anymore because they give you a ton of it for free and constantly hand out more for events.
Slightly off-topic, but the (not) MMMORPG confusion is in my opinion a perfect example of the blurry lines we have with that genre. 10-20 years back it was easy: You can play it with many people online -> it is an MMORPG - or maybe something else instead of RPG (like MMOFPS). Today we rarely have games that don't have any online aspect to it. There are a lot of games that offer player hubs while the actual gameplay wiil take place with smaller groups in instanced areas. This even applies to some of the older MMORPGs (like Guild Wars 1) which I would rebrand in hindsight as "Online RPGs", dropping at least the "massively". Back on topic, I still hope that Corepunk and Throne & Liberty turn out to be good and prove to not belong on this list. But the concerns are sadly valid.
Yes all of these titles are sketchy, but I was expecting to see Blue Protocol on the list too. The devs openly admitted its going to be P2W and on top of that cosmetics will be sold only in loot boxes. Its going to be only 4 classes, very little content and will be released on all platforms including mobile. A list of existing MMOs to avoid maybe next?
This is another one I had on my dishonorable mentions list that I should have thrown in the video. Its also been delayed though so Im not quite sure if it will even be out and playable in 2023 despite looking very shallow
@@Lady-Drifter I know about the fanservers. Thats not why I'm mad. The company that took over development of City of Heroes wanted to buy the publishing rights from NC Soft when they announced they were shutting the game down, so they could keep the game going for the community. Nc Soft told them to eat shit and shut the game down. and i will forever hold a grudge against that company and their games.
No idea how you can talk about core punk at all.. if most of the actually info we have is from alpha years back ... esp about simple boss mechanics ? we have seen 1 boss for like 10 sec...
After FFXIV and Guild Wars 2, companies are just lazy to not build a single player like experience within a MMORPG environment. It's possible to satisfy greek and troyans. (about Crimson Desert). After my delusion with Lost Ark, i will wait a few years before i try Throne and Liberty (TL). The one thing that i really loved about Lineage2 was his design of cities and races, such thing is not present on TL.
Modern asian mmo's "developers" are incapable of creating anything that worth your time. Those guys unleashed so much "potential" on our simple "non asian" brains. I never thought that i would witness such a change of development model. Most of those "creations" are nothing more than "inspired" by great western titles and build with UE4 asset store materials. For those who wondering. Try to look in to amount of asian titles made using Borderlands 3 sdk.
T&L will be a great game until endgame where rich whales have you around to feel superior because its going to be a complete p2w monetized mess. We know the company. They already have their vampiric methods down pat. Will avoid.
I don't understand why people think bdo still the same as when it came out, bdo from 2016 is not the same as 2023, WOW, Lost Ark are way more p2w and i can have this discussion with anyone with data and numbers actual proof.
0:43 if such a person existed, I would probably sub to him on YT so I can say I'm helping the channel, without actually helping the channel + give him a thumbs up, whilst hitting the bell notification with one hand..while I furiously master-bait to the theme from Interstellar.
You missed Night Crows(it will release this year). 0 info about the game or gameplay, except a 5 seconds video with a character running and that's it.
No gameplay = no opinion, i think.
I knew about this one but it's so far out of the way that I didn't think as many people would be scammed by it as they would by something like Into the Echo though looking at it again I probably should have had a dishonorable mentions list
@@BarklayID It's a block chain MMO. That alone makes it shaddy as hell.
@@joystik Agreed
The editing, the outfit changes, the commentary... its all... its all perfect
totally agree!!
you seriously deserve a million subs. production value is epic level, dunks on any game reviewer i've ever watched - in writing, humor, insight, and editing. Refine the alchemy to 1 million. Something from someone as talented as you is bound to viral
just wait a few months and you will get a raid shadow legends email for sponsorship. anyway good content, keep it up!
Ill get my balaclava and beading machete ready for if I ever do
Holy shit I am so happy to finally stumble upong this channel. Every video is a banger. The edits, the pretty far out there momemes and jokes. I really hope you make it dude and get enough patreons to just do this full time.
New sub here, came from the GW2 video. Love your stuff man, hilarious comedic timing. Keep it up!
Haha your delivery is perfect, great video!
Just coming from the GW2 video. You're so entertaining, man, look forward to your future productions!
The finale made me subs up! Keep it up! That was awesome
this was more entertaining than any mmo i played in the last 5 years
I never thought a shooter without an aiming reticle would look so cursed, but ashfall's gameplay made me feel physically ill
2:23 I actually went and closed my eyes when you suggested that the viewer should do that.
Even without all of the visuals you edited into the vid I started imagining something way WAY cooler than the ashfall gameplay you show about a minute later.
Just found your content today and I'm loving it. I just started Black Desert and I was very hesitant due to pay-to-win and pvp aspects, but I got to say, it really isn't as I bad as I thought. I've really gotten into it and haven't been tempted to purchase anything yet. You can buy cash shop items in the player market place. That, and there's hard caps of how much cash shop items you can sale. Someone broke down the math in one of the reviews.
I'm, more or less, curious what your opinion is?
Ok Pearl Abyss
I hope Corepunk is good, just so everyone finally quits Albion. The PvP just being a slowed down LoL or Dota is spot on.
Of all the ones on this list I hope Im the most wrong about Corepunk. I really want a top-down mmo with the same feel, I just hope the game speed is increased
how the **** your chan have only 11k subs you should have more just for the voice !!!!!!! amazing vids man .
hey roze! i’m curious what wireless microphone you use, looking at getting one myself
I use the Rode Wireless Go II for recordings and then just EQ it through my editing software.
Keep in mind that depending on what country you're in, it can get quite pricey. I got lucky and managed to pick mine up second hand.
If you're on a tight budget and looking to start out there's nothing wrong with using something like a blue yeti. You don't have to get the most expensive mic in the world, just make sure you're not dealing with unmanageable interference
@@RozeMMO alright thank you. appreciate it! take care and keep up the good work, the videos are bangers
Actually, I can't believe Guild Wars 2 is still as fairly monetized as it is, being published by NCsoft.
Its actually pretty crazy to me how its monetized while having ncsoft attached to the game in any way at all. Every time I log in I can see all the ways it could be so much worse and just isnt
love this channel. very well done
5:32 I laughed so hard when he started spinning yelling demacia! xD
5:33 That's Garen
6:12 That's Urgot.
I mean, you can be inspired by something but god damn...
Glad i came across to your channel, great stuff !
Bro how the actual fuck do you not have atleast 500k subs??? This is good shit
NCSoft almost ruined GW2 too, they wanted to shut it down years ago
Another banger and only my second video I've seen from you. Sub'd; i'm fucking dying over this commentary, delivery, outfit changes lmaooooo
This was amazing, hope you get more exposure and subscribers
Hi fellow L2 player ! Was waiting for it too but no real hope tbh, especially after the scam Bless was !
Another fellow L2 vet here! Played from Prelude through Gracia, on Hindemith (before it merged with Gustin).
Looks like T&L is turning out exactly how this video describes... maybe even worse.
Wish I could I say I was surprised.
NCSoft is a soulless money farming machine anymore. After how they destroyed L2 with GoD, telling us "we totes won't put any pay-to-win in the cash shop because it's a PvP MMO and it would be unfair!"... only to turn around and do exactly that - starting from GoD's launch. Nah. I don't trust them with anything anymore. I wouldn't trust them if they told me it was windy during a hurricane.
Great ending. Very entertaining throughout. I always look forward to your videos. 🤣
What fascinates me about nc soft is that they should now better. They have published good games with great communities and a not too bad cash shop. How do you look at Guild Wars 2 and go: Ok now let’s not do that again.
Edit: sprlling
Song track list?
Katana Zero - Nocturne
Persona 5 - Rivers in the Desert
Ashfall - Trailer Music
Fallout 3 - Main Theme
Cyberpunk 2077 - Hyper (shittyflute version)
Corepunk - Trailer Music
Katana Zero - Third District
Crimson Desert - Trailer Music
World of Warcraft - Argent Tournament Day
Throne and Liberty - Trailer Music
Blasphemous - March of the Twisted One
Songs appear in this order and I'm assuming what you're looking for is somewhere in here. Other stuff I use is just short clips of a few songs that only pop in for a second or 2
I wish if Funcom revived the old game Age Of Conan and gave it a nice re-design of animations, mechanics and graphics for 2025! It already has a great story and unique identity amongst MMOs!
unfathomable that you're at only 11k subs. +1 from me, keep it up!
Man you got yourself a huge fan right now!
About Throne and Liberty and those million players, if we look at Lineage saga games they probably mean 100 "whales" each with 10.000 bots running on their personal NASA servers and like 10-15.000 normal players trying to scam each other for the scraps :)
Started with classical music and I'm already goonin
Katana Zero OST spotted. Thumps up 🙌
love your vids bro!
even if Throne is p2w af im still going to play it. Looks like a better version of Archeage and I LOVED that game till they fucked up the skilltrees and everything else in the world
7:30 link?
Give a source, Roze. I double dog dare you.
Nevermind. I found it. Anime is "Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?"
Japan, never change.
He nailed it with Throne and Liberty 😬😬
he just spiting fact about ncsoft nothing to expect
3:50 neopets. 4:45 poo pals. 5:15 Chubby boys. 5:45 Crab kingdom. 6:30 Biden Pals
Nice vid, thx for the tips and the laughs
I love your videos man, just recently discovered them. Keep up the good work and humor, even though your input might be not as high when you put in much effort - at least I hope your numbers will go through the roof!
this was so funny, but also really eye opening. I actually didn't realize ncsoft is so predatory, I only vaguely remembered them being publisher of gw2, and gw2's gem shop is actually super reasonable since I can convert gold into gems - several years ago when I played more, I bought all my gem store QoL stuff with gold I collected in game. didnt spend a single dime aside from buying the game/expansions. I had no idea most/all of rest of ncsoft's games are that predatory p2w. i...I guess I should feel glad/lucky that gw2 managed to retain that even after all these years. also should be glad ncsoft didn't axe it already for not being profitable 😂
ArenaNet is the publisher of GW2. Other than a single link at the bottom of the GW2 web pages, NCsoft isn't mentioned in relation to GW2.
You got me with that "Breast Development Online" XD
Great video !
how has this not blown up
11:36: Friendly reminder that NC Soft didn't kill himself
Well, no. I'm pretty sure it was clear, at least perfectly clear for me since the start that Crimson Desert is like the Prequel to Black Desert and will be a singleplayer game with a deep story, and would possibly eventually have a lobby where you might show your progress to other players, but it will never be an actual multiplayer game of any sort.
... but I guess that was changed at some point... Oh well.
haha well put man :d good laugh wp you got a subber
if close eyes how see video ?
with 3rd brown eye. easy
God this channel is so underrated
A core of creation... so a COC?
Awesome vids dude. And I don't even play video games
Damn, I had forgotten about some of the games in this video.
Your content is so good. Holy shit.
Crimson Desert was confirmed not to be a true mmorpg ages ago. Also, I gotta be honest emptying out your bank account to progress on BDO isn't really goinna do much these days. Most the relevant PVP is all gear capped with really low beginner stats, p2w has never been efficient money wise and even less so now because the caps/catch up mechanics/etc. As much as I would love to shit on BDO, and there are a ton of things to give it shit for, it's really actually incredibly f2p friendly and in a great spot right now. Drop $50 one time purchase for the tent then youre cozy. Even all the pay-for-convenience shit isnt really required anymore because they give you a ton of it for free and constantly hand out more for events.
Slightly off-topic, but the (not) MMMORPG confusion is in my opinion a perfect example of the blurry lines we have with that genre. 10-20 years back it was easy: You can play it with many people online -> it is an MMORPG - or maybe something else instead of RPG (like MMOFPS). Today we rarely have games that don't have any online aspect to it. There are a lot of games that offer player hubs while the actual gameplay wiil take place with smaller groups in instanced areas. This even applies to some of the older MMORPGs (like Guild Wars 1) which I would rebrand in hindsight as "Online RPGs", dropping at least the "massively".
Back on topic, I still hope that Corepunk and Throne & Liberty turn out to be good and prove to not belong on this list. But the concerns are sadly valid.
your content is insanely good
Thanks
Just popped in to say I don't know about others but when I see a tagline that says avoid these xyz I avoid watching the video. lol.
Yes all of these titles are sketchy, but I was expecting to see Blue Protocol on the list too. The devs openly admitted its going to be P2W and on top of that cosmetics will be sold only in loot boxes. Its going to be only 4 classes, very little content and will be released on all platforms including mobile.
A list of existing MMOs to avoid maybe next?
This is another one I had on my dishonorable mentions list that I should have thrown in the video. Its also been delayed though so Im not quite sure if it will even be out and playable in 2023 despite looking very shallow
Black Desert Online is the most Pointless MMO in 2023.
"The nukes fixed japan" earned a sub
Roze is the hero we needed.
but didnt deserve.
You are my new inner monologue 🤣
Oh i think i will play TL until i forced to pay to progress.
probably the smart move. Not many have those levels of willpower sadly
Still upset nc soft pulled the plug on City of Heroes.
Do a search for City of Heroes: Homecoming. Free CoH servers, been running for almost 2 years.
@@Lady-Drifter I know about the fanservers. Thats not why I'm mad. The company that took over development of City of Heroes wanted to buy the publishing rights from NC Soft when they announced they were shutting the game down, so they could keep the game going for the community. Nc Soft told them to eat shit and shut the game down. and i will forever hold a grudge against that company and their games.
Oh man, can’t stop laughing after watching hahaha… Your videos are so good ! Keep up the great work !
No idea how you can talk about core punk at all.. if most of the actually info we have is from alpha years back ... esp about simple boss mechanics ? we have seen 1 boss for like 10 sec...
asian mmorpg be putting everything on gameplay and some devil may cry looking gameplay then forget everything else
Did... did he just say everyone got balls to play? 😂
World of warcraft released in 2004 and still No1. Gunna take more than a fancy weather system to take down the king! WoW killer right?
Finally someone mentioned throne and liberty lol the devs are too sketchy to trust
You gotta remember these games are aimed at kids. Not grown ass men.
Black dessert Online.
I want more videos by you
After FFXIV and Guild Wars 2, companies are just lazy to not build a single player like experience within a MMORPG environment. It's possible to satisfy greek and troyans. (about Crimson Desert).
After my delusion with Lost Ark, i will wait a few years before i try Throne and Liberty (TL). The one thing that i really loved about Lineage2 was his design of cities and races, such thing is not present on TL.
NOOOOOOOOO not throne of liberty.
Modern asian mmo's "developers" are incapable of creating anything that worth your time. Those guys unleashed so much "potential" on our simple "non asian" brains.
I never thought that i would witness such a change of development model. Most of those "creations" are nothing more than "inspired" by great western titles and build with UE4 asset store materials. For those who wondering. Try to look in to amount of asian titles made using Borderlands 3 sdk.
Throne and liberty is just sth else
The fucking Algorithm did something right for once
Yes i like quite entertaining video good content thank you ok bye
Lol says retarted a few minutes in 😂😂😂
That Epstein joke had me rolling lmao
AMBATUUKUUUUUUUUUUUUUM
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glad someone spotted it. was beginning to think I'd wasted my time
T&L will be a great game until endgame where rich whales have you around to feel superior because its going to be a complete p2w monetized mess. We know the company. They already have their vampiric methods down pat. Will avoid.
I don't understand why people think bdo still the same as when it came out, bdo from 2016 is not the same as 2023, WOW, Lost Ark are way more p2w and i can have this discussion with anyone with data and numbers actual proof.
LOL Streamers say what the company said! bcoz there is a gun pointing at them!!
I like The End. 😍😍😍😍😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does he not know what fps means? Looks like a third person shooter to me…. Not that I give a fuck tbh
I LOVE BDO
SpACE!!!!!
Holy this stobe age mentality of bdo is p2w explains ur outdated jokes
Lol...
Avoid ffxiv unless you're lgbt.
0:43 if such a person existed, I would probably sub to him on YT so I can say I'm helping the channel, without actually helping the channel + give him a thumbs up, whilst hitting the bell notification with one hand..while I furiously master-bait to the theme from Interstellar.
my advise guys dont listen to WESTERN/EU they have fail haha
Great video!