Lorry driver: We don't need foreign drivers to solve the HGV driver shortage
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The big question seems to be, how can we solve the driver shortage while continuing to pay people crap wages with terrible working conditions.
sums up the situation perfectly
GUARANTEED ANT IT WILL HAPPN AGAIN!! THERE WILL END UP A GLUT OF HGV DRIVERS AND THE WAGES WILL DROP!!!
Gov. Answer: invite Europe back with the corresponding poverty pay ( which is sufficient for Bulgaria but not UK)
a couple of my mates who have HGV licenses got letters asking them if they want a driving job and they binned 'em lol
Campervan man, this schedule of importing 'desperate' workers from poorer countries into richer ones is a global disease. The US, Canada and Australia are prime examples of this
In Canada they introduced a visa for agricultural labourer and now there are 95,000 people from the Third World who get carted across the country for 8 months ( not in winter) wherever they are needed. After 'living-expenses' are deducted they clear about $7-8 ph.
In Australia, between 2015-18 it imported 42,000 people on temp-visas to drive trucks. They work for 70% of the mandated wage.
It's clearly a conspiracy to do this and package it up as helpful people in poorer societies. When in reality it's a ruse to have cheap labour, which helps businesses but dispossess locals.
This man is more articulate than most politicians and media types.
He has more than likely not attended oxbridge.
That wouldn't be hard, most are mumbling bumbling idiots,
That’s because he’s not using spin
I think most normal people can run things better than politicians
Articulated truck driver.
Big lessons to be learned here by the government and transport bosses. Pay a decent wage and look after your drivers.
I really believe Boris is a patriot and does want the indigenous poulation to earn a decent day's pay for a decent day's work. Anyone knows that is the bedrock of a decent, law abiding and hope filled society. Stopping foreign workers from being ferried in to undercut our wages is a good start, is it not?
Nah, just bring in endless numbers of migrants...what could possibly go wrong?
@@harrycallahan1 Was there any attempt in the last ten years to stop the race to the bottom? What about minimum wages, trade unions that secure better working conditions? No Tory ever wants to increase the pay of workers.
@@caeserromero3013 Yes, well, that is a conundrum. I would put them in chain gangs myself.
@@adamabele785 Guess maths wasn't your best subject. Raising the tax threshold is as good as raising wages.
Not to mention the 40000+ applications held up at the DVLA because they are still "working from home"!
Problem is they are doing fuck all. I’ve been waiting 8 months now. Calling everyday. And all I get told is to give it a bit more time ffs 😂
@@biszkoptgt9810 Contact Grant Shapps direct and your local MP esp. if he is Tory. Try a letter to your local paper and radio. Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 did a piece on it yesterday but vote RformUK next time and we might get people who listen.
@Its my Bike Agreed, I knew the ADR was the key but the RHA etc. have been warning about the shortage for several years but, as usual, no action until there is a crisis. Let's face it most is caused by the MSM stoking panic buying.
Not to mention that more than a half are East Europeans and will say goodbye to the island when they get the C category. I know meny like meny people who are doing this.
This man is taking a lot of sense. Get him in the government thi k tank quickly. Give him some power.
They wouldn't want someone in there who actually knows what they're talking about lol
Yes he does talk a lot of sence unlike boris and co . Dont even get me started on labour 👎
This guy is spot on. Everything he says makes sense.
It’s a great pity that this won’t get heard by the idiots in Parliament
He doesn't say much to be honest, hand picked for this particular news segment.
Suspend cpc. Quick test to ensure they’re up to date. Pay better wages.
Simple isn't it......... 👍
Abolish the stupid driving licence. Every grown up should be able to drive a lorry. Let them drive 24/7 without a break with petrol in the back if they want to. Abolish pedestrian crossings and let lorries drive on bicycle roads and in the opposite direction of one way streets. Just get rid of all these stupid rules that keep people off the streets.
@@adamabele785
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@@adamabele785 Abolish stupid comments too. (See above).
pay better wages??? and see the price of goods increase - bravo!!!
Lorry drivers have to sleep somewhere in the streets but the refugees are staying in a hotel free of charge forever until thy kingdom come.
Do you want the refugees sleeping on the streets?
Stop whining.
There’s no equivalence
lmao lorry drivers sleep in there cabs,you imberceal
@@thetradefather6769 it’s shower and toilet facilities that are bad in UK. Drivers that do overnight runs have a bed in the cab.
This lorry driver is right. The UK drivers need a pay rise to be treated with respect and better working conditions no no more cheep Labour from the EU. Just to keep the haulage firms pay demands low. Time to look after UK workers first for a change
Mass immigration just causes wage suppression while western European companies exploit people from central/eastern Europe for cheap labour. But pro-EU people are fine with exploitative practises and wage suppression apparently as they never address this.
Better working conditions? What you mean like government issued softer seats in the lorries?
@@jonmcintosh8653 : I have never seen as many foreigners in Edimburgh as now with the Brexit. They may not be Europeans Foreigners but still are foreigners. Foreigners from somewhere else. So all what Brexit has done is to change the nationalities of the people who still keep massively coming. In a way is quite amusing.
@@carmelaloperena8972 exploitation of people and wage suppression is amusing? Odd. Doesn't matter where they're from, it's still wrong.
@@jonmcintosh8653 : Of Course is not. I'm against exploitation in all its forms. What I was trying to point it out was the sudden dislike for everything that comes from UE including people. The strong dislike for anything that is foreigner.
I stopped driving and will not return to driving untill the CPC gets scrapped.
Same here. Left the industry in June after 24 years. I’m 48.
@@adamwells515 same here Adam 56 , left after 25 years class 1 driving 2 year's ago, had enough of the Bullshit life style!!!
Same here
because you know it all
@@joseloonybin5478 Yes more so than cpc 20yr old that has never driven.
personally i wouldn't use the service stations to park, refuel of buy food, i'd pull off the motorway and find an asda and park for free. service stations are extortionist, they shouldn't be allowed to charge hgv's for parking when they are legally required to stop and rest
Most service stations are so grotty they need nuking from orbit.
Seconded. Only in Britain though. Pure Greed. Rather like the Hauliers trying to keep wages down by importing cheap Eastern European drivers.
so true, hgv drivers are underated heroes in the u.k and maybe this shortage will be the kick in the ass the british government needs.
Motorway services are a joke. Fuel and everything else overpriced. What happened to the lower costs for the operators that were introduced by Government some time ago. I don't think their savings were passed to the truck or car drivers as they were supposed to be or spent on better facilities. Into the fat cat who operators pockets no doubt. Second class GB public yet again.
This man says it EXACTLY HOW IT IS!!!
BRAVO👏👏👏👏👏
Scrap the CPC is the best start.
It's 8 hrs a year really a problem?
@@kluchakiller it's the cost! Its just a grift! That money could be better spent providing more and better driver rest facilities!
Scrap it in construction to. It aint worth the paper its written on.
@MockTheRight&LaughAtLefties CPCS is money making scheme nothing more. You must be the bloke with a clip board and no idea of the real work, but on twice the wage no dout.
@MockTheRight&LaughAtLefties you don't know what your talking about! Some of the very worst drivers have sat in a classroom and passed the CPC and guess what?
They're still shit drivers!
why is the cpc still required for domestic drivers in the u.k ? they have left the e.u !
yes you are right rob, there are many areas of directives where the u.k played fair and obeyed the rules while other member states just ignored the ones they did not like, no wonder the u.k voted to leave in the end.
cpc is a money scam nothing more,i would never drive again while cpc is there
CPC is the problem why ex drivers won’t drive, it’s an insult to be told garbage that has nothing to do with driving a HGV vehicle. Don’t be fooled by the lieing media (GB News/TalkRADIO excused) who make out drivers earn £50k for a 9 to 5 job, that’s exactly what the job needs to be. This truckers told the absolute truth.
I totally agree with what he was saying. I just wish he had got his facts about the driver's CPC correct, because you know it could be discredited when using the wrong facts. It's not 36 hours. It's 35 hours over a 5 year period & for lorry driver's the CPC was introduced in 2009. Not 5 years ago.
@@181paul8 Spot on Drive, like myself he let us down slightly but his points were totally correct less the slight times, but hey Bud the media can completely lie every second of a day & the fact the guy is one of us & probably mentally F*cked by working 15’s we can let him off. We drivers need to stick together on the scum media because they’ll spin our jobs & I personally won’t let it happen like the £50k now, BULL💩 unless you give you life to the job, 15’s after 15’s, tramping, full weekend work,6th shifts Etc Etc Etc. When the jobs 9 hours for £50k I’ll accept this is respectfull to what we actually deserve
Construction industry has something similar,the CPCS which all plant operatives need to have..experience counts for nothing nowadays and grandfather rights have been abolished.During the 90s i operated a volvo A25 articulated dumptruck with only a plantmaster ticket which only cost £50 for 3 years..seems this cpc/cpcs is just a money making racket.
Yep, CPC tipped me over the edge and I ran out of money taking my hgv, I achieved a class 2 but the pay is shocking. If a digger driver can earn over £30 an hour and gets to see their family every night then so should a truck driver!
Well said bro
£90 tipped you over?
@@kluchakiller £90, yea right, try £350, after spending a week training and passing in a class 2 at a cost of £1750 and no pay whilst training , you're a joker!! The class 1 was an additional £1750 and the job offers in the class 2 for a newly passed were £10 an hour. Do some research before commenting
@@ashofthehood4545 more like £400.00 ashleigh but does seem to vary,region to region, still a ripoff which ever way you look at it budd ☹☹☹☹
@@Theoriginalbigbrillo thanks my cost was from January 2019 when I took my test.
I was explaining the cpc to my Dad a retired carpenter. He said "it cant be that bad" I replied "imagine you and your work mates being told which end of a hammer to hold". "Oh" was his reply 😆
The BEST explanation I've seen since its introduction. Mine ran out last June & thought bugger it, I'm not paying £350 to renew it when very close to retirement. Covid & Brexit's fault? B/S many saw this coming long before the referendum even.
Yes, and being told that by someone who's never held a hammer.
In Ireland we have to do one day every year, most shit, but every now and again the guy doing the course will be an ex cop or fitter or suchlike who will ignore the syllabus and just have answer peoples questions about the law, rules, upcoming laws ect.
After 40 years as a decorator, I cannot work on a construction site without first doing an NVQ in decorating ! Funny how these horrid Tories dislike red tape - where it suits them !
@@flipper2392 I do ours, I have done the job 20 plus years, so I know what I'm on about. Our lads can drive, I know that, so we have 7 hours of talking about all sorts, drinking tea, then I tick the boxes and we all go home. All paid for by the company in company time. So it's no problem for us ☺️
Good man.
Support our truckers.
No foreign labour undermining the pay structure.
Get rid of all the petty bureaucracy from eu days.
Get the DVLA back to work.
Spot on 👍i used to be a long distance driver for 18 yrs I loved the job but had enough of the BS
Is the DVLA not a bureaucratic organisation.
Foreign lorry drivers offered temp contracts in UK have stuck 2 fingers up...they were shafted once and won't be shafted again ...
High five to UK citizens who drive huge lorries to deliver to us ..working conditions and pay need improving .. no shortage then x
I know nothing about the lorry driving industry. Thanks to that driver, I learned a lot more about the issues in just a few minutes.
This guy has hit the nail on the head
Well said exactly right I left 15 years ago who in there’ right mind wants to do it Boris should try sleeping in a cab all week
There wouldn't be enough room for his boss carrie
Yeah nobody here wants to be a driver. And none of the drivers from Europe want to come here. This should work out very well.
I moved to Canada in 2008, I was fed up with the low wages and terrible conditions. But it's the same story over here. They bring in cheap unskilled foreign drivers here too.
I was a long distance lorry driver, the reason I left the industry was I had a disagrement with having to sit in a classroom learning things I already no.
But spelling was not on the curriculum ?
@@purpleheadedmountain7299 You might be better at spelling, but I bet you couldn't reverse a 45 foot trailer accurately into a narrow gap without help.
Too much up yourself.
Unfortunately not
@@purpleheadedmountain7299 you don't need to be good at spelling to drive a 60 foot lorry & drag round 🇬🇧uk Switzerland & France .
@@briantitchener4829 Actually I can! But you were not to know that.
That driver summed up the truth about a lorry driver shortage in under 4 minutes, I've been driving HGVs for 42 years and could see this problem we have today coming when the drivers CPC was launched and also the drivers who said they would pack up when IR35 came out in April this year have done, the ill informed media general public and government should start listening to GB news then they would find out what's really going on in this country .
The media (GB News aside) are not I’ll informed. They just want to blame absolutely everything on Brexit
@@peterjones8335 spot on there.
To be a security guard you need a card by doing a 3 day course, there are different cards to work on a building site, same with forklifts and other such vehicles, and to drive a truck you need the CPC. The cost of these courses will come out of the workers pay with no help from anyone, you pay to work and these cards only last 5 years, so you pay for them your working life. To become an MP you just need to know someone, you pay nothing because when you get elected you vote to keep it that way, you can have a grandiose idea which costs the country hundreds of millions of pounds with no come back when it fails. Now tell me who needs a competence card more, it is not the working man but those pricks in Parliament.
Same with Driving Instructors. £300 ever 4 years. Ok this does include a full Disclosure
@@johnl9234 I take it from that statement you don't vote, or, if you do, your vote is different as you vote for a "competent" politician.
Anyway, the vocational cards were EU policy designed for workers entering a trade, which then changed to every 5 years as a job creation scheme, so nothing to do with our MP's as they had to follow EU law.
@@johnl9234 I gave up driving in 2013 to earn more money for less hours, going without a pay rise for 6 years tipped me over the edge. The CPC did not help, this was a Dutch incentive picked up by the EU, the bureaucrats, at the EU, were over joyed with this policy as they said "look at the jobs it creates". I can also remember a UK politician saying, when it was introduced, "drivers need not worry as companies will help with costs", yeah, right.
I would be quite happy to go back on the road to help out, but I point blank refuse to sit through the CPC. It is demeaning and unnecessary!
Same here 25 years class 1 experience driver 🤔🤔🤔
So much for getting back control. Johnson is a con artist.
Lorry driving is bloody stressful. And in one point I think they should have 100000 milion trainings as getting up to 50 tones vehicle on the road with not so qualified person can bring disasters. Yet they should get paid really good money. Can anyone try to put them self in their shoes. Sleeping in the cabin, no showers, waiting for every service station to use toilet, people swearing at them for slow driving or blocking the lanes and so on, this is bloody hard mentally job.
Come on Boris, now you know what to do, please get on with it!!! 🤨
Especially after you gave him your Vote to killthe old weak and poor 😢
@@gullygullible1402 well your name is accurate, nobody gave a vote for that
@@gilly9666 gilly of they did wat else do native's give their vote 4 Free WiFi 👏
@@gullygullible1402 think you’ll find that was the Americans and the Chinese with the old kung 🤧
@@gullygullible1402 why do you think that ?
Bit of a stupid comment.
Salute to our Drivers! very appreciative! get it sorted, Boris!
Don't count on it
So why don’t the Government have this brilliant knowledgeable man sitting around the table discussing the issues that he clearly knows about 🤷🏻♀️
Because they have their own agenda and common sense and fairness are not part of it!!
The government don’t like common sense they just like idiots in a big room saying yes and no
Excellent summary from a professional. The CPC is like the old BS5750 where you had to write down how to do your job and then work to it.
I had to contend with ISO 9001. Red tape personified.
@@philsimpson3556 ISO 9001 is derived from BS5750, it was a UK originated standard, aimed at continuous improvement, there's no argument for lowering standards is there?
As an retired lorry driver and now 71 and was 21 in 1971 when the HGV licence came out I have seen how lorry driving has changed . One of the only occupations where you can be fined so easily for just doing your job . Speeding 5 miles over the limit the police will fine you , few kilos over on your axle weight FINE ,2 minutes over your allotted driving limit FINE the list goes on ,what this driver has said is spot on just get rid of the unnecessary EU regulations and encourage younger people into the profession
The only things they could change for drivers are, Drop the CPC its not a driving need and is nothing to do with driving, but costs the driver a full weeks training that's rarely of any use. and separate the HGV from the normal driving licence.
A lot of HGV drivers left the industry when the CPC was introduced because they couldn’t afford to undertake the weeks training required at their own expense.
The CPC was a weeks training for anything not driving, but just related like how to tie a rope or maybe. It was something from an EU directive and approved by the Brown government.
Its introduction caused many to leave jobs they had been doing for 15 years because they couldn’t afford the training and it never resulted in higher wages.
Employers just brought in drivers from Poland on minimum wages to fill in for the drivers leaving. This kept wages low and conditions poor.
This created a shortage of Class 1 drivers down the line because the lower class drivers used to upgrade to class 1.
Is £55 a year really expensive?
@@kluchakiller it’s pointless and that’s all that matters
@@kluchakiller For those that take the option of a day per year training the cost is more than £55 though.
It is a pointless need, and drivers needing to pay for it, means they first have to lose either a days pay a year, plus find the money for that training.
That doubles up on the cost. Or if they take the training is done every 5 years then the cost is prohibitive at over £500.
And for drivers working hand to mouth on low pay yes it is a lot. This is assuming you employer would even let you have the time for this training and some wont.
@@medler2110 So many people think the problem is caused by Brexit or Covid, the truth is over the last twenty years what used to be a decent job has gone right down the pan.
@@medler2110 Agreed it goes back more than 20 years and the UK has always had this shortage.
The CPC being dropped wont solve all the issues but when it was introduced it cost the industry a lot of drivers and those drivers would have stayed and progressed onto the class 1.
So the cpc took out all grades. It was never a driving qualification and pushed out UK drivers in favour of cheap EU labour.
This in turn has cost more UK drivers because wages and conditions have not improved.
The CPC was a major factor in many HGV drivers quitting and staying away from the trade !
My brother finished because of it,he had his letter and laughed. He said the government can go fuck themselves. He will never drive a lorry again. Class 1.
I did the same thing 2 years ago, crap money long hours leave home Monday might see the front door before Saturday, due to sit the cpc @ £350, with a week off work unpaid, then a driver medical @£150..... no thanks, got out of a truck and got a life.
Yep im another,would never return while that is there.i could put up with the rdc centres.and laybys etc. drove uk.Ireland, france. spain.germany and others.15yrs but while cpc is there they can keep my licence.
Get rid of the CPC and get more lorry drivers back on the road. Easy answer!
WELL SAID LOVE!
Red tape is like putting a kink in a hose pipe then wondering why it's not working very well.
this guy is spot on,these r the reasons i cant b arsed
All the companies that rely on HGV drivers should have a levy legally enforced upon them to pay for the proper facilities that should've been in place years ago!
Companies dont pay nothing. Companies dont actually exist. A company is nothing than a group of people organized working together. If you levy any cent on a company you are levying it on people. The share holders, the workers, the consumers. Or any combination of those 3.
@@osark2487 What are you on about saying companies don't exist? Also, something has to be done to fund proper facilities for HGV drivers because the UK Road Haulage Industry has been finally & fully exposed for how badly it has treated drivers for so many years!
@@TOMLINBISH companies dont really exist. Stop and think for a second. Where is a company? Is it the building? No a building is a building. Is it the bank account? No the bank account is a bank account. Is it an office? No, an office is an office for sure! Is it a mail box in a tax heaven? Thats hardly a company I would say. Even the word company to describe a business started being used first as John the shoemaker and company. As a group of people that John organized and worked together aiming a common goal (making shoes and selling them). Companies do not exist they are a fictional invention of our minds. All that is, is people organized and working together. A Company is nothing more tha a companionship of people, each one playing their part. Levy a cent on companies and you are levying it on people. Workers, shareholders and customers or any combination of those 3.
The Government should have an inspectorate that checks on Motorway Service s. Force them to upgrade the facilities for HGV's Fail to keep the place clean n tidy and decent and you loose your site. Secure yards, separate from cars n caravans.
This man has more common sense than the whole of our inept government.
The inept government you voted for...
Its a disgrace DVLA doesn't pass many drivers because of standards, but drivers from poland slovakia and other countries get license easy in their country and drive in 🇬🇧
Also similar thing with universities, its quite impossible for someone from my local sixth form college to make it to oxford or Cambridge University but international students make it
Total disgrace ridiculous
Sounds like a good man...listen to him!
It's about time employers invested in improving job for their staff instead of getting rich fast
Not gonna happend this problem exist for years and no one give a f...
Dream on. Follow the money every time, you only to to look at Amazon, they treat their staff appallingly, and as a bonus pay no tax!!!
@@kluchakiller then they aren't going to get the drivers and will go bust .
@@garyspruce7736 some of them already gone bust. I work for well know haulage company and I'm on £13.4 p/h agency getting £20p/h and they refused to rise our pay even by 0.20p/h. 20 drivers left already but they still don't care
@@kluchakiller you are needed more than ever , and if the government stand firm you all hold the cards , ths hauliers are just trying to make shortages to get cheap labour back in .
This man makes more sense than the entire house of commons.
You can't beat to having hands on people explaining how things could be much better. Using common sense, and talking to the real people of this country . Our MPs are overpaid for what they do, if we closed down parliament tomorrow for three months, nobody would notice . We have shortages in all hands on work, and within a few days there is chaos. No need to say anymore.
Our parliamentarians need to deal with the workers of this country, and not the blown up academics, with no idea of the real world.
Its not because of brexit like the remainers want you to believe.
It’s because of both and terrible management
What is it then? Lazy entitled youngsters maybe not doing the jobs.
@@chatteyj The world has moved on and driving lorries is not a good job the average age of a lorry drivers in the UK is 57 i'd say bring automated lorry now
Lol. It's clearly Brexit as the EU drivers won't come back to racist Britain for three months on a visa they have to pay for with a new passport they have to pay for. 🙄
@@davidlynch9049 oh dear simply a remainer mentality, mate the EU is falling apart. Its not because of brexit ,its many things such as ir35,dvla strikes, not processing hgv licenses. Also as im marred to a European we have gone home because we've made our money here .our country has also got better since coming out of the eastern block. The problem now is the European union is wantimg more control of our country and thats not good.its only time we will leave the EU like brexit. You my friend need to open your eyes and look at the bigger picture because your very wrong in being pro EU.
I’m starting to love GB news. Wow a place where you actually interview people without spitting lies over the top. Love it!
More Bigger better laybys like in France. Petrol station should be made to have hgv parking, instead of starbucks or burger king or kfc.you need to look after your delivery drivers not just your car drivers.drop the CPC for starters up the wages and cater for trampers
We need to get rid of all foreign workers!
They have ruined the building industry and have kept my wages well bellow what they should be,I am a bricklayer btw and have been for over 30 years!
Like Nurses, doctors, food pickers ?
@@wolfiesmith7674 all of them. Train our own people! Moron.
@@wolfiesmith7674 I can tell your a commie by your name and thumbnail,your comment just proves it.
@@wolfiesmith7674 what do you think we done years ago before Labour flooded this country with foreigners? This used to be a good place to live,now i don't recognize my own city,London. East London has become Pakistan and the only white people i see are eastern Europeans. Personally i can't stand it. I am 55 and remember what it used to be like,cleaner and safer!
What happened to John Majors promise of toilets& facilities every 10 miles on motorways ,like him& all MPs full of hot air!
When I walked through Lewisham on three consecutive days in August 2019 I couldn't believe the main walkways were riddled with young people 20-25 hanging around, who were clearly unemployed. Moreover, had no intention of working.
There should be no welfare for bludgers. If you can't get a job within 3 months of leaving school not a job it should be like Singapore where you are given a job.
CPC was/is a waste of time and a waist of money for LGV drivers.
"We don't need foreign drivers " ?????If my house was on fire I would call even aliens to help me put out the fire.
CPC... what a lot of bureaucratic bull twang.... poor pay and work conditions is no incentive for truck drivers to stay in a job... with the idea of automated trucks for the future puts one off a truck driving career.
This driver shortage could have been avoided but haulage bosses allowed this to happen to get back cheap EU migrants on zero hours contracts. The bigger problem is every driver that comes from the EU means two or three family coming with them all wanting a house and to use the NHS and schools.
no such thing as a free lunch
At least they will have one people in the family paying their taxes while some British people and their family been living on benefits for decades, that's the real problem, not the immigrants that come here to work but the lazy asses that never had a job in their life and expect the government pay for everything they need or they want
Whatever happened to the old transport caffs? They had delicious food, reasonably priced, and lots of them. They seem to have disappeared.
Good point but you need somewhere to park and land is expensive
Motorways happened, faster roads, taking drivers out of the B roads where most of these lorry stops were situated. I used them myself as I travelled by car back and forth up the old A1. Great belly fillers and big white mugs for tea. Motor way stops are just Dick Turpins without masks.
35 pound for parking and a 10 pound voucher to Mac Death? wow
Sums it up dint it.... What a disgraceful country the uk become... Nothing but spivs in the government and city of london (Square Mile) lining their pockets whilst uk workers being squeezed everywhere you look... A proper caring genuine Nationalist government is needed big time.
The Centleman os totally correct.
I have a HGV 1.
Have it since 1985.
Lots of experience, 60 years old, physically fit but... No... CPC. 🙄
And you are not desperate to get one, are you Nick?
@@assessor6951 Can't say, i am, who knows 🐸
If government's can bail out bankers and airlines why can't they do something to help transport drivers get back on the road? Maybe now people will realise their importance.
because they own shares in banks and airlines, driver shortage doesn't affect them so they don't give a toss
@@NGRevenant You're right and I know that I just felt it needed saying. 👍
Another driver saying it as it is ,pay more and scrap this eu cpc
Your problem is that for decades you have been electing people who do not know what it is to work, who purposely ignore the reality of workers' lives and who only look at the "needs" of the most powerful. To solve part of the problems, you need to elect people who come of the world of work. And not rich people who just want to protect their livelihood, unsustainable.
CPC for £250? I'd like to know where? Most prices around here are £500 to £800 for five days training every three years.
Every 5 years.
funny enough I was considering going back to driving because I used to drive a 7.5 tonne for a driver hire company but I do not have any finances to get back I only wanted to help the country but it looks like it is too much trouble and costly now. pity because I am sure there is enough people willing but the government just do not want to help. lets face it who has the money after the covid lockdown
Thank you sir, wonderful analysis of how young people are stuck under with unending costs and lack of opportunities as a result, at every turn we are rinsed dry, and they expect us to just carry on making the country ever better. We work hard and get very little in return, just getting a license, car insurance is half of our savings gone. Let alone a lorry!
also to add that driver cpc ( e.u directive) is stopping bus, coach, 7.5 ton drivers from returning who have a valid license but no cpc. this situation is just crazy ! westminster are you listening? they know that cpc was very unpopular but just ignored everyone who complained.
It is amazing that the civil service can process 20000 Afghanis to hotels all across the country in just a couple of weeks, but they can't process HGV licences. Hmmmmmmm funny that isn't it. Surely the DVLA wouldn't want to harm Brexit would they? Ohhhh hold on, their entire work system will no doubt need change across the board as we leave the E.U Work directive and so many other transport related rules and regs. So YES the DVLA will be biased against Brexit. Anyone who either voted Remain, or are in a position where they can fundamentally harm our transition to independence, and do so knowingly, should be sacked and charged with a crime. It's quite clear this is going on across the board.
i have heard stories from people who have to have a cpc to do their job, that their employer pays for the cpc coarse but makes them sign paperwork so that if they leave the job within 3yrs they have to pay them back the money, one told me that he was told it was £700 to pay back as the employer was going to charge for the coarse, the food that was supplied and the cost of the venue. that is blackmail, did the uk government not realise that the cost would end up being passed on to the employee or did it just not care ? .
All bigger haulage company have a trained guy who doing cpc in house and it's free of charge without any contract whatsoever
@@kluchakiller yes that is good to know, but there are a lot of smaller companies who dont and cpc is just one of the many reasons that drivers are staying away.
Ir 35 and cpc I'm 100% with you there. Ir35 has screwed me and my wife over big time as now I'm taxed more and she has lost almost all of her benefits. I've dropped to part time now to minimise how much we lose.
E.g for every £1 I earn she loses 67p I also pay tax 20% and 20% to my ex partner for my children with her (rightly so) so the more I earn after £12500 a year then we are negative 7% for each hour pass £240pw.
Cpc is just stupid full stop as it's not pass or fail and you can do the same module 5 times and thats fine for some reason.
Parking is getting worse and worse as the roads are getting more busy each year. Can't tell you how many times I've pulled up for the night and there is no space so you head to the next services or try and find a layby with no toilets, showers ect. All at a risk of an infringement.
CPC is bollocks.
36 hours unpaid and £350 to take it.
What's that add up too? ££850 average?
I'm not going back
CPC is not the most important thing to get rid of(but as you say its takes the goverment one bill to cancel it). Most important is pay, parking and working conditions. Rules on a minimum standard for trucks when drivers are away all week..fridge , microwave and air con for night time for drivers that require it would also be a start. So much needs to change and this is our chance.
Pay British wages
So much has been written how to solve this crisis, by people who no idea of the HGV industry, and this guy with a wealth of experience, hits the nail on the head.
Politicians need to listen to the people at the sharp end instead of MSM.
My step daughter gave up HGV driving 10 years ago as she couldn't compete with foreign drivers and pay her mortgage.
She now works on the docks.
i will drive again if tat cpc crap was lifted !
Well said
Also I read eu driver's to be paid 20% more than UK driver's think we all need to strike they can't do anything without driver's in this country
We need good wages and conditions this has been. coming for years, and we all know the CPC is a money maker, bang on mate 👍
Superb analysis- and thank you Alastair for letting him talk rather than constantly interrupting which is what you see and hear so much of these days
c.p.c has been nothing but a headache for the u.k ever since it was introduced by an e.u directive, he is 100% correct when he says it stands in the way of drivers returning ,but i am sure it was introduced in 2009 for hgvs , why is it still a requirement in the u.k for drivers who stay in the u.k ?? the u.k has left the e.u.
It makes a LOT of money for the government. The training companies have to pay a government agency a fee, for each CPC module that they teach.
The CPC is a relatively easy exam to pass.
A knowledge of hours of work, weights, employment legislation and finance are vital to any professional driver self employed.
The CPC was voted and accepted by UK MEPs to improve the quality of the profession.
@@michaelslator64 yes you are right michael, but the u.k is no longer in the e.u and it is still required at the moment , why?? it is also preventing drivers with hgv who gave it up years before from returning to help with the shortage, when you say its easy to pass, i have been told by people who have taken it that its pretty much impossible to fail it and you can do the same module five times and get your card and not even do the other four ! this sounds like it is a gimmick coarse.
The CPC curriculum is a complete waste of time. That’s one reason I left the industry.
What a joy to listen to a person who, (unlike the Prime Minister and his so called Senior colleagues, ) knows what he is talking about.
Articulate, plain speaking common sense AND hits the nail on the head with his thoughts and suggestions on how to put this ridiculous situation right.
This Government has yet again shown how utterly inept it is in looking after the people it was elected to serve.
WELL DONE SIR!
BORIS,& SHAPPS, take note and learn from it.
I was an HGV driver for more than 25 years and just recently retired and handed back my licence, as much as I liked the job the wages were terrible and I was working for around £11 an hour which was not good. The thing is truck drivers have never ever been seen as skilled workers you were just basically a manual worker with a qualification. Skilled truck drivers should be paid the same as any other skilled person like a plumber, electrician, who often earn three times that per hour is it any bloody wonder we can’t attract new young drivers to the industry.
25 years ago it was said that there was a 100,000 driver shortage. The cpc was the main reason that I came off the road. £250 plus a weeks lost earnings to do a sham course just made no sense
Perhaps the Government, before they do anything else, is talk to the drivers.....?
good luck becoming a driver though. It costs about £5,000 to take the test. If you fail you loose that money.
Jobs like Asda and Tesco do a support system to get you on there and pay 60% but they got a diversity list. And if a black person, polish person, etc is waiting, you get bumped down. Been on the list myself 3years. Whenever I chase it up, im told "oh you're on the list but theres more eligable / better suited people that get priority. Like this 22year old immigrant from Ethiopia on a french passport who can barely speak english who said "i got passport from uncle london for $200." and has never been to france. Yeah obviously illegal (in more than one ways) but shut up, racist, is the reply i get
Nice story. Roald Dahl
spot on especially the IR35 this is the one thing that no one in the media talks about and it is the heart of the driver crisis, People are blaming Brexit and its nothing to do with Brexit Also the CPC what a waste of time and effort that is.
How many FOREIGN lorry drivers have caused fatal crashes on our roads using their phones especially! We don’t need them just streamline OUR system for training new people and of course bring back the older lorry drivers for short haul deliveries!!! Get OUR country back to normal forget the EU!
The government need to listen to this guy ,he hits the nail on the head ,we dont need foreigners drivers or workers ,british jobs for british people .
I’m willing to drive again, but there’s no way I’m paying out £400 for an online “Zoom” classroom course.
CPC needs to be scrapped asap; but I fear this will not happen as theirs loads of training companies making big bucks out of this EU farce.
I have held my licence since 1997 and will not return until its scrapped.
My feelings exactly, scrap the CPC and I'll be straight back to driving again.
We left the EU to stop all this apprenticeships and learning UK citizens jobs not by EU or any other country if they payed them right wages you probably find UK drivers would jump at the chance
The guys last comment "there's a lot of things this government needs to do" applies to just about every single area of policy today - but what hope is there with these self-serving, over-privileged, public schoolboys in charge - again ! What is the matter with the British public voting in people who couldn't give a damn about the working classes, it's a case of "I'm alright, Jack" - because they all have their wealth stashed away in one of the tax havens that we very kindly maintain for the rich, to avoid contributing anything to Britain !!!! Stand up, be counted - Protest !
Driving 29 years, Don't need cpc course to teach me wot i already know at £300+ quid .35 hours in classroom thats 3 shifts on top
Simon, the CPC is the biggest waste of time and money ever. That should have been thrown in the bin ages ago.
I LEFT BECAUSE OF POOR WAGES/CONDITIONS AND THE DREDED MUCH HATED EU ENFORCED CPC!! WE HAVE LEFT THE EU SO LETS GET RID OF THE CPC!!!!!!
And don’t forget the same applies to Bus & Coach drivers….
The large companies that rely on these hauliers treat them like shit.
They want to pay them as little as possible and make them work as much as they can whilst providing minimal support and services..
And as soon as they get a chance they'll replace them all with self-driving units.
Meanwhile, prices for everything the drivers deliver (and someone else's profit) goes up and up.
Certificate of Professional Competence aka CPC. Originally mandatory for transport managers to assist in planning routes and timings for Lorry drivers and you did not need an HGV licence to have a CPC. The EU swapped it around.
Currently there are 55000 HGV licence applications pending with the DVLA, as much as I totally agree with everything this guy has said, I think our first priority should be employing thousands of temporary workers at the DVLA to sort out the backlog.
Shouldn't come as a surprise we still dance to the EU tune - BOZO delivered BRINO!!!
Then don't vote next time.
lack of drivers is the doing of politicians and bureaucrats. i dont work as a goods driver now due to the CPC and other clownish stuff.
Trucks are like dog houses...24h arrested inside , away from family, and 15h a day on bosses Demand...WTF !!! No one wants that anymore
The Government should pass a law that any HGV can only be held for one hour while loading or unloading, And Bills need to be paid in 30 Days not 90.
Best of luck with that one!!!!
GBnews the only news station listening to lorry drivers.
Transport for London have announced a new "Safety and equality regulation" for PHV drivers this week. People in London will struggle to get a cab soon, driver's are fed up. Government just do not learn.