Thanks for sharing! I’m interested in learning to play. Do you know where I could order an inexpensive version of this kind of Pontian Lyra that ships to the U.S.? Thanks!
Thanks for this video. You already gave me some tips. I'm starting now my first experience with kemence. I have a first basic quesrtion: about how to press the strings with the fingertips (as in guitar) or with the top of the nails (I was watching a video of a turkish woman and she said that she use nails)? Can you clarify it? Thanks again
Hi Stefano. The Kemenche is played with the soft part of the finger, similar to playing a guitar, not the fingernail. The Cretan Lyra however, is played with the fingernail.
I get my instruments from Turkey. Very good quality and extremely affordable. If you Google "ποντιακος συλλογος αθηνα" you should be able to find a Pontic club in Athens that may be able to direct you to a seller. Pontiakos Syllogos Argonaftai Komninoi I believe are the biggest Pontic club in Athens.
that's completely true the reason i do this is because i travel a lot with the instrument and i can't carry proper tools all the time so i don't want to stand for any surprises on this topic haha
@@קיילירוזנברג-נ5ל I just saw this comment. Did you get it out? You need to tip the instrument upside down and manouvre the sound post on top of one of the 2 large sound holes. A long metal object such as a knife is then used to slide it through the sound hole as it usually needs some help.
It depends what type of instrument you have. Is it a zil, zilo-gapano or a gapan? Is it a Greek or Turkish instrument? Some of the Greek-type narrower instruements (zil kemenche) which sound high pitched, need EAD violin strings, where E is the zil, A is middle and D is gapan.
@@kemenchebasics i have a zil and a kapan..on my kapan i have 0.014-g24-g24. Daddario guitar string 0.014 and two galli g24 la strings. The same combination on zil is not good for the sound. I dont know wich combi i must have on zil
great video i liked but can you tell me what am i doing wrong i bought Kemence from Thomann website but whenever i stroke the strings with the bow literally no sound what so ever happens i tried to tune the strings and continued testing nothing no sound maybe i forgot to add that ros whatever its called the glue thing to my bow?
Hi. Check to see if the sound post is in place. If it was dislodged, the Kemenche will make no sound whatsoever. Shake the instrument. If you can hear the sound post rattling inside, it needs to be reinstalled. Let me know. I have a video which shows you how to fix it. Otherwise, the bow hairs need rosin.
@@kemenchebasics I have the same problem, but when I switch to a violin bow it works well, so it is a problem with the lyra bow. Is there a technique or something with the bow to tighten it or something because I'm not getting any sound?
@@leopoldzoupounidis571 it could be a few things. Does the bow have rosin applied to it? Does the bow hair look like fishing line? (Some luthiers supply very poor quality bows). Are you holding it correctly? It's not held like a violin bow. 3 of your fingers need to create tension to the hairs.
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This is an awesome video. Thank you so much for the info. Great to hear an Aussie with Pontian roots post this!
I didn't know there was a difference between Turkish kemençe and pontic lyra, thank you great video
Yes it's the same instrument, however the Greeks who were expelled from Turkey in 1922 make it slightly different. Thanks for your comment.
Awesome introduction to this Pontic Lyra, which differs interestingly from the Turkish kind, thx!
Thank you for this great video. I need it and the other also ! Thank you again. 🙏
Great video mate! Very thorough :)
Thank you
Excellent introduction, thank you! Actually there's very little information on the kemençe out there that is not in Turkish...
Thank you for this video, can you make one about how to change strings
Sure
Thanks for sharing! I’m interested in learning to play. Do you know where I could order an inexpensive version of this kind of Pontian Lyra that ships to the U.S.? Thanks!
Did you want the Greek or Turkish version of the instrument?
@Anastasia Tahou Are you able to privately message me?
How to replace a string:
th-cam.com/video/vha18sAX1p4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you~~~~
Can you make a video of how to tune it because my papou is pontian gave us a lyra and its not tuned
Hi. Does this help?
th-cam.com/video/OTGWN7pBMAo/w-d-xo.html
Kemenche Basics ill give it a try
Thank you
Cheers
Thanks for this video. You already gave me some tips. I'm starting now my first experience with kemence. I have a first basic quesrtion: about how to press the strings with the fingertips (as in guitar) or with the top of the nails (I was watching a video of a turkish woman and she said that she use nails)? Can you clarify it? Thanks again
Hi Stefano. The Kemenche is played with the soft part of the finger, similar to playing a guitar, not the fingernail. The Cretan Lyra however, is played with the fingernail.
@@kemenchebasics ah ok. Thanks so much again for the clarification!
It has always been played in Greece. It's just that Greeks left their homes in Minor Asia and Turks were influenced by them to play the instrument
Thanks, could you recommend any place in Athens to buy one
I get my instruments from Turkey. Very good quality and extremely affordable. If you Google "ποντιακος συλλογος αθηνα" you should be able to find a Pontic club in Athens that may be able to direct you to a seller. Pontiakos Syllogos Argonaftai Komninoi I believe are the biggest Pontic club in Athens.
thanks a lot @@kemenchebasics
Hi I did not know Armenians play. They are asking me to play something on strings in October at their Church. Do you give lessons?
I usualy drop a little drop of glue on the soundpost
Not much but just enough to keep it from falling
Yes, it can be done. Traditionally not though. Just needs to be tensioned properly.
that's completely true
the reason i do this is because i travel a lot with the instrument and i can't carry proper tools all the time so i don't want to stand for any surprises on this topic haha
fair point he he
HLIAMPOUZOUKIA(illias de sutter) mine has fallen in what should I do?
@@קיילירוזנברג-נ5ל I just saw this comment. Did you get it out? You need to tip the instrument upside down and manouvre the sound post on top of one of the 2 large sound holes. A long metal object such as a knife is then used to slide it through the sound hole as it usually needs some help.
Hello, wich strings are ideal for zil and wich for kapan? I have 0.14 on my zil but i think its not the ideal string for zil
It depends what type of instrument you have. Is it a zil, zilo-gapano or a gapan? Is it a Greek or Turkish instrument? Some of the Greek-type narrower instruements (zil kemenche) which sound high pitched, need EAD violin strings, where E is the zil, A is middle and D is gapan.
@@kemenchebasics i have a zil and a kapan..on my kapan i have 0.014-g24-g24.
Daddario guitar string 0.014 and two galli g24 la strings. The same combination on zil is not good for the sound. I dont know wich combi i must have on zil
@@_Sokarbank_ I've just made this video on selecting a zil string for a zil instrument:
th-cam.com/video/KbnsruNjr-A/w-d-xo.html
great video i liked but can you tell me what am i doing wrong i bought Kemence from Thomann website but whenever i stroke the strings with the bow literally no sound what so ever happens i tried to tune the strings and continued testing nothing no sound maybe i forgot to add that ros whatever its called the glue thing to my bow?
Hi. Check to see if the sound post is in place. If it was dislodged, the Kemenche will make no sound whatsoever. Shake the instrument. If you can hear the sound post rattling inside, it needs to be reinstalled. Let me know. I have a video which shows you how to fix it. Otherwise, the bow hairs need rosin.
@@kemenchebasics ok thx send me the video of this sound post fixing thx a lot it does shake so I guess it's that
@@bhasma7811Here's the video.
th-cam.com/video/a7JoVs8E_94/w-d-xo.html
@@kemenchebasics I have the same problem, but when I switch to a violin bow it works well, so it is a problem with the lyra bow. Is there a technique or something with the bow to tighten it or something because I'm not getting any sound?
@@leopoldzoupounidis571 it could be a few things. Does the bow have rosin applied to it? Does the bow hair look like fishing line? (Some luthiers supply very poor quality bows). Are you holding it correctly? It's not held like a violin bow. 3 of your fingers need to create tension to the hairs.
Where do i buy it online similar to yours? thanks!
Depends how much you want to spend and the quality you're after. I have a few for sale.. Email pontios23x@gmail.com
What s the tuning tell please
GDA and AEB, AAD and EAD and many others. Search TH-cam "How to Tune a Pontian Lyra".
Pontic Lyra is Greek
Do you have a source? It's original name "kemenche" is Persian.
@@kemenchebasics bcoz I'm Pontic sir, this is Greek Lyra! Pontos!
In Hindi kaman literally means a bow, also violin.
kemençe bizim lan uzayın
What s the tuning tell please
I didn't check the tuning but almost always, my instruments are tuned to GDA.