E60 for me, it's a pity you forgot to put it in P500 mode.....d'oh! There hasn't ever been a bad M5, although I found the F10 a little dull in terms of character. I have an E90 M3 saloon, which I consider that as a mix between all E34, E39 and E60 in terms of size similar to E34/E39, performance between the E39 and E60 but also the most modern. Definitely more sporty and less barge-like though - win some, lose some!
I think the F10, or F generation in general, to drive more like an AMG. They weren't as balanced, but had a torque curve that can easily light up the rear wheels.
The jump from the e30 to the e36 was absolutely massive. Not so much for e36 to e46. Yall smoking some good stuff. E34 and E36 are the real sweet spot.
Really enjoyed this series as well! An E39 with a Dinan tune (probably 560 crank hp) is still the fastest I've ever been in a car: 180mph. A rock solid autobahn cruiser, and still the best saloon silhouette on the road today.
It's difficult to compare cars across eras. If you were to drive other cars from the era of the e34 M5, you would realize how much sharper the driving experience was compared to the rest of the field. The newer cars are obviously a lot safer and larger but they are also heavier and more constrained by all the electronics. Personally, e28 M5 is my favourite but the e34 holds a special place in my heart. The entire line went dead to me after the e39. The e60 was maniacal but I couldn't get over the Bangle design and the size of it.
I think it depends on what you expect from the car. If you want it to be "pure" //M like they used to make, the e34 m5 is definitely the best //M from the 5 series. If you want something unique - e60, if you want a fast, new and luxurious car that doesn't stand out from other brands, this is something from the newer ones. I think that the e28, e34, e39 still kept the spirit of //M or just old sport bimmers, but then they just made good cars, without "that something"
I really enjoyed these M5 and M3 generations comparison videos! If you ever visit the Netherlands you are welcome to test my ‘CSL’ style E34 M5 on a back road, it makes a world of difference compared to a semi stock example.
Drove a new M5 Comp last summer. So fast, and handled well for such a big heavy car, but engine is nothing like as characterful as the NA sixes and eights and tens of old.
S39 Vanos engines has too many issues with that first gen tech as well as stretching chains and broken plastic chain guides. Get this stop trying to be a racer. No old car is fast compared to new ones. Get something like this pre computer bullshit age and get a new M4 to go nuts in. Perfect balance.
So he thinks the E60 is pretty good, but didn't even drive in 500 hp mode, let alone P500S not just P500. There is 2 500 hp mode, P500S sharpens the throttle and opens up the throttle body 100%. P400 only opens it partially that is how it limits the engine. As an owner of an E60 M5 I can tell you P400 and P500S is very different. I do have to admit on public roads 500hp is too much. What would have been nice if there was a P400S. Also the SMG in my personally opinion has more character than a manual, and you also don't have those very long gear shifts. SMG has shorter gear ratios so 1, 2, 3 are really quick shifts. SMG is poor on slow drives, but if drive it like a manual where you let off the gas on gear shift it is good enough. When driven fast the gear shift on setting 5 is pretty brutal and I doubt a human smashing the clutch can do similar shifts.
Agreed - and his comment regarding the e34 m5 that "it doesn't want to be hurried" is just bizarre. It's the total opposite; just like the e30 and e36/46 M3s, you need to ring it's neck in order to get maximum performance. The e34 m5 only comes alive above 4k RPM
@@tinorosmg9374 Ask him yourself, I mean it. The roads were super wet that day so perhaps he didn't want to exploit full power who knows I'm not going to sit here and speculate with you...
![Which BMW M5 Generation Is Best? [Part 1/3 - E28 vs E39]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kcTE64Hw4Fc/mqdefault.jpg)
I’m an E34 and E36 guy. Early 90s BMWs have such smooth and rich sounding straight-6s that are absolute music.
E36 coupe 4 cylinder is better with fuel economy
E34 because last hand built one. Best build quality - solid doors. Made in Germany and love the classic 80s styling :)
Totally agree - and IMHO the best looking of the bunch.
Better quality than the E39? No way
E60 for me, it's a pity you forgot to put it in P500 mode.....d'oh! There hasn't ever been a bad M5, although I found the F10 a little dull in terms of character. I have an E90 M3 saloon, which I consider that as a mix between all E34, E39 and E60 in terms of size similar to E34/E39, performance between the E39 and E60 but also the most modern. Definitely more sporty and less barge-like though - win some, lose some!
I think the F10, or F generation in general, to drive more like an AMG. They weren't as balanced, but had a torque curve that can easily light up the rear wheels.
Back in the day, not many cars could touch this... Including some exotics... This was more powerful than a 911 Carrera of the same era..
2024 BMW M5= 735HP. 2024 Porsche 91 Carrera = 379HP
The jump from the e30 to the e36 was absolutely massive.
Not so much for e36 to e46. Yall smoking some good stuff.
E34 and E36 are the real sweet spot.
My favorite M5
Really enjoyed this series as well! An E39 with a Dinan tune (probably 560 crank hp) is still the fastest I've ever been in a car: 180mph. A rock solid autobahn cruiser, and still the best saloon silhouette on the road today.
560 hp out of a n/a E39?
@@Ben-bg2eg No, it'd have to be supercharged
@@rossfripp4503 correct
Great review guys!
E34 is the best. I had an E34 525i and an E39 M5 and I miss the E34 much more.
My favorite is the E39 M5 although I have an E60 M5 manual (because of rarity)
I also prefer the E39 but with a manual the E60 M5 must be pretty awesome too 👍 Is maintenance as troublesome as people say?
@@martyschulz74I have smg m5 reliable as a work horse
Very informative thanks for making another M series
RIP Giorgi Tevzadze, definitely the first person I think of the moment I see an E34 M5
same.
Absolutely I am from the same country 🇬🇪 thank you guys for paying tribute
It's difficult to compare cars across eras. If you were to drive other cars from the era of the e34 M5, you would realize how much sharper the driving experience was compared to the rest of the field. The newer cars are obviously a lot safer and larger but they are also heavier and more constrained by all the electronics. Personally, e28 M5 is my favourite but the e34 holds a special place in my heart. The entire line went dead to me after the e39. The e60 was maniacal but I couldn't get over the Bangle design and the size of it.
I think it depends on what you expect from the car. If you want it to be "pure" //M like they used to make, the e34 m5 is definitely the best //M from the 5 series. If you want something unique - e60, if you want a fast, new and luxurious car that doesn't stand out from other brands, this is something from the newer ones. I think that the e28, e34, e39 still kept the spirit of //M or just old sport bimmers, but then they just made good cars, without "that something"
I really enjoyed these M5 and M3 generations comparison videos! If you ever visit the Netherlands you are welcome to test my ‘CSL’ style E34 M5 on a back road, it makes a world of difference compared to a semi stock example.
The shift knob is press fit on. Common for them to pop off regardless kf generation .
the on center play can be adjusted to be tighter, curious the owner has it a bit loose
Drove a new M5 Comp last summer. So fast, and handled well for such a big heavy car, but engine is nothing like as characterful as the NA sixes and eights and tens of old.
Awesome M5
Rip Giorgi Tevzadze- The legend of E34 🇬🇪
I got the same Costco jacket the passenger has in the same color. Bruh.
Is the windscreen wiper on all e34 models make the friction sound upon retracting back (mine as well)?
Looking forward to a 911 or Merc (C or E class) comparo!
Seems our opinions (left a comment on Part 1) are similar except maybe switching our feelings on the E28 and E60 haha. Cheers!
Are you sure that things like the steering is not age rather than how it came from the factory?
Damn E34 weights that much?
E34 M5 is the best
E34 540i6 is
@@rgstar7702
The E34 540i has the M60 V8 engine, not an inline 6.
@@pochacco30 Exactly.
S39 Vanos engines has too many issues with that first gen tech as well as stretching chains and broken plastic chain guides. Get this stop trying to be a racer. No old car is fast compared to new ones. Get something like this pre computer bullshit age and get a new M4 to go nuts in. Perfect balance.
So he thinks the E60 is pretty good, but didn't even drive in 500 hp mode, let alone P500S not just P500. There is 2 500 hp mode, P500S sharpens the throttle and opens up the throttle body 100%. P400 only opens it partially that is how it limits the engine. As an owner of an E60 M5 I can tell you P400 and P500S is very different. I do have to admit on public roads 500hp is too much. What would have been nice if there was a P400S. Also the SMG in my personally opinion has more character than a manual, and you also don't have those very long gear shifts. SMG has shorter gear ratios so 1, 2, 3 are really quick shifts. SMG is poor on slow drives, but if drive it like a manual where you let off the gas on gear shift it is good enough. When driven fast the gear shift on setting 5 is pretty brutal and I doubt a human smashing the clutch can do similar shifts.
This whole series is irrelevant, null and void. The guy drove the e60 in 400 bhp mode not in m mode 500 bhp so how can this be taken seriously
Agreed - and his comment regarding the e34 m5 that "it doesn't want to be hurried" is just bizarre. It's the total opposite; just like the e30 and e36/46 M3s, you need to ring it's neck in order to get maximum performance. The e34 m5 only comes alive above 4k RPM
Trust me guy knows cars much better than you two keyboard wanna bes
@@ChristianC-gy1ym he knows about cars and doesn’t know that an e60 m5 has a power button?
@@tinorosmg9374 Ask him yourself, I mean it. The roads were super wet that day so perhaps he didn't want to exploit full power who knows I'm not going to sit here and speculate with you...
@@ChristianC-gy1ym Looked pretty dry to me when he tested the e60. The e34 (which is the car he is testing in the wet) doesn't have a power button :)