9:04 Calvin! DUDE!!! That MaxxECU CAN bus sniffing is AWESOME!!! I didn't know an ECU could do such a thing. I'm always trying to mod oddball cars and have had the same exact problem. Begging for support. Or just having to use tons of analog ins and out. I knew of CAN bus sniffers but having a fully programmable ECU is PERFECT for someone doing a piggyback. THANK YOU!
Very cool. There are front hubs from some specific s10 blazers (2003 4wd iirc) that people use to convert to 5 lug. That said your plan simplifies a lot of things and should save a bunch of weight!
I'm watching the CANBUS portion of this video for the third time. Contemplating exactly how you will integrate the CAN of the MaxxECU with the CAN of the vehicle and the factory modules. Such as which one you will leave in charge of controlling the throttle and which one will be left just making use of the information about what is happening on the CANBUS... VERY interesting to find out what ends up working well for you! This is an actual gamechanger in a lot of ways.
@@Calvin-Nelson AMAZING!! I can't wait to see how it all shakes out! I hope you have enough energy to give us a thorough description of the interaction of all of the components like you did in this video. Thanks! :)
Very cool ! I work as a Toolmaker for ZF at their Marysville Axle Plant. Great engineering and products. I believe the Hellcat rear diff has a 230 3.09 rear gear. We do also build a 230 3.70 rear gear also, and a new HD260 3.92 rear Beam solid Axle also
@@Calvin-Nelson The Hd260 or RBA will be in the RHO trucks along with a special ( tougher ) 215 3.92 front drive unit. I'm definitely following this hybrid build.
Man the GMT360 guys are going to be all over you about that front suspension setup. Dudes are going to be banging down your door wanting more info STAT. As a 97x owner I love where this is going and can't wait for more! I also hope you share/produce the parts needed for that front suspension swap haha.
Of course it's incredible, it's developed in Sweden👍I'm pretty sure Natanael and the boys at Maxxecu will help him, if he needs some help,it looks like he has it under control!
love the fact you always are making a difference in the race car community, trying new things and getting who you need involved to progress these builds to another level and even making your own parts.
I am doing the same thing, Maxxecu and 8HP70 running on a LS in a light weight car. Thanks for detailing the CAN analyzer. Pretty cool 2 little 24ga wires run the transmission!
Really admire the creativity, but if you could find a flywheel that would work, a stick shift sure would be nice in that Trailblazer. Maybe a Colorado 2.9 flywheel could be made to work since they're around somewhat?
No doubt it's about time the aftermarket has finally begun to embrace CAN. Cool watching the novelty in the existing networking hence the versatility realized.
Dude , I can't wait to see how this does , because I will give it to them . The hellcats have an aggressive shift pattern , and behind a boosted engine , I think it will do great and should spool quick af with how quick it runs the gears , should basically stay in boost 80% the time ... right on Calvin, can't wait again to see how this works out and I would deff be interested in the adaptor plate .. (got a 08 trailblazer lt 4.2) and I am trying to convince the wife to let me make it a lil funner 😅 she won't let me do manual swaps as she not comfy driving manual , but this trans could be on paddle shifts 😮💪🏽🤙🏽🤘🏽✌🏽.. mad props cal , peace and love bro , keep it rad, stay safe, and build on..l8r famz and keep having fun all
Sound German Automotive offers a standalone transmission controller for the 8hp series transmissions for people that use them in swaps. It uses the factory transmission shifter from the charger or challenger and would probably be worth looking into for yourself.
Inspiring , very inspiring. That can bus stuff is way gnarl! If My Wife's Envoy outruns my Volvo wagon, I'm not sure if I will be sad, mad or glad. I surely will blame you. LOL. Great info !!
Brutal compré una Trailblazer, porque ví tu canal y me enamore del 4.2 atlas. Quiero hacerla standard con una transmisión ar5 . Saludos desde Puerto Rico 🇵🇷👍🏻💪🏻🔥
They used the 8hp90 and 95. Not the 70. The 70 was only for 5.7 and 3.0 diesel. The 70 stands for 700 Nm of torque max capability. 90 is 900 and 95 is 950 Nm
Mines a GA8HP70 from a 650i, behind a 686chp LS3, Domi adaoter, Turbolamik. Had originally bought a ZF8hp75 from a Stelvio/Foglio model- about 6 weeks into building an adaoter gave up and bought the DomiWorks and another trans lol. WAYYY more work than I was ready for! I'll get back to it eventually. But the real thing with these transmissions ISNT putting 1200hp thru them. It's putting 800+ftlbs thru the factory tcu. It was never designed to make the torque calculations (it ONLY uses input+ output shaft speeds) on a stock tcu, you get into trouble above 800ish. With the Htg or turbolamik tcu swap, you give it the ability or "operational ability" to make smarter decisions faster and have 100% control. They can then make smarter decisions and handle WAY more power. Just ask any of the supra guys. I started researching and building models and layouts for my swap 3 years ago. Research research research. I joined every group, forum, international chat , and basically mass mailed all the major players til we were on first name basis'. This video could be cool ; but it's 3am and it's gotta wait til the AM! just saw this first comment and thought I'd add some user feedback to at least ONE of the guys that immediately quotes wiki (even tho you had a correct "correction" ) lol. I'm pretty sure if I let it play, he makes that point clear. If you've watched it and he doesnt- good for you, I'm sure he's figured it out since filming. Wait...he was saying 707hp when I paused it...yup- you're 100% he at least starts this video off on an "oops". Well good for you. But anyways, in my group alone, we've got a handful of 12-1400whp cars on stock 70/75s, the only thing I did you mine was had a friend install a sonnax steel for me to toughen up a clutch pack. But basically stock. With a can/tcu he may run into problems down the road, but should hold up quite well. (Can/tcu uses stock tcu) compared to the others using ryuchip/similar solder pcbs/jumper sets. Can't wait to watch!
@beasyphone not sure about the turbolamik. The whole process has always seemed cumbersome. I like the integration that maxxecu has provided. For example, the bmw e9x chassis, they provide a standalone, wiring harness, tcu, and canbus integration for ls swaps for not much more than the cost of the turbolamik by itself.
Frankenstein built me a torque converter, it stops the engine at 4800. The part I like is if I take off easy it doesnt act like a stall. He built it on the cheap. It will only stand 800 lb. But it has hung in there.
We just picked up a Vortec 8100 for the work truck. I have been struggling on what transmission to put behind it, as the existing 6l80e is showing signs of being tired. I would be very interested in this if it allows me to put the ZF 8HP70 on to the 8.1. Either way, awesome content. Thanks!
Yeah man. I didn't even know these things existed until recently. And then the fates decided to have me see one listed on Craigslist. It's just a the bare block (GM Performance), but I plan on a 500 ft. lb. build at the wheels for the work truck. I suspect I will be well above that when it is all said and done. We shall see!
@@shadowopsairman1583 I actually want 8 gears. Thoughts? Lots of highway miles in the future. Please give me those multiple over-drive options!! And then why the 6l90? (I mean, besides the obvious)
I've got a mate who's a transmission builder. They definitely only handle upgraded power for a shorter period of time, he also builds a strong 6l80e. Why not use the srt8/trackhawk box which is AWD? Plus a rebuild for the power is 10-15k when a 6l80 is 6k.
@Calvin-Nelson watched further. I thought you would have just put 2wd Chevy truck parts on that are rated for the weight, not much lighter cars? And from what I've watched on the Silverados etc, you can get pretty good brake options for them. And I'd imagine by now not that expensive wheel options rated to the load rating. And of course, turbo AWD Falcons known as the territory, run 8s with AWD and 1400hp, full weight cars. But I guess 1200hp skyline gt-rs do too and the camera footage of both of them aren't that extreme as cleatus, who is the king of extreme. Especially given its only a 10sec goal, the AWD would help it.
Well Calvin, I'm planning on putting a 46RH trans on my recently purchased LH2 Northstar. lol😅. No really... But thats going to be a ways down the road though, I wanna get myself the/an 80's C4 roller body first.
ZF8HP is used in BMW, Range Rover, Jaguar and and Many ratio in BMW. It is a real madness to make this swap and I really enjoy all of it and love ZF8HP.
Iirc the TBs use the same front wheel bearings 2wd or 4x4. Watch the lower subframes for rust and lower control arm bushing wear. Caster and camber is set on them by moving the lower control arms around.
Steve Morris and Tom Bailey have both been drag racing these SUVs recently, both RWD only. CAN bus is fantastic, so much you can integrate. Good to see you embracing new technology.
So glad to see you doing this! After driving a bunch of domestic and fast European cars with various versions of the 8HP in them, I can say without a doubt that "8HP the WORLD" should be something we say a lot. I think I'm done messing with TH400s and 4L80s... The only problem with 8HPs that I can see is that they have so many gears it is kind of too many for fun manual shifting in a lot of cases. But they work so well in automatic mode, it kind of doesn't matter. OH! I was under the impression that with MaxxECU it wasn't necessary to flash the Dodge transmissions, since the Dodge firmware is what MaxxECU likes? I thought it was only necessary to flash BMW versions or whatever else, over to Dodge firmware??
@@raj-u6t1m Cadillac xlr? Dang last time I thought about those and looked up the prices and they were pretty crazy. Ive seen alot of jaguars around those years for alot less, 8-12k for a solid body. That would be insanely classic and amazing wow. Like aston martin vibes with an i6 , 800hp.... Or also idk how maybe Northstar but the mr2 later years are pretty good money and value. But rear engine. Similiar if not cheaper than the caddys. I bet that xlr is an electronics nightmare along with all the panels and sound deadener and whatnot. Id like to see a 3000gt 4200 swapped either awd or red conversion.
Some bogarts on the tb would go mad hard. Loving what I'm seeing im a huge huge fan of thr gmt360. It's the perfect size for thr do everything vehicle and they come with excellent engine choices! I had a 97z!😅 Don't do that.. Unique everythubg there. If I was to get another I'd look for an envoy
Being able to read CAN like that is so good, just from being able to use a lot of the stock electricals without re-wiring. Deleting AWD, though :( It's become a big deal over here, even big power pro mods are sending power to all four wheels. Oddly enough, I see less complaints about torque steer and more issues from bouncing off the start, since most cars are longitudinal FWD VW platforms with their stock gearboxes modified to also couple to a rear diff.
A lot of guys are finding it easier to convert the car to 2WD and go faster over here. If I was more into the street racing stuff, I'd give the 4wd a try
@@Calvin-Nelson I get it, it's far easier to access prep tracks in the US (even with the shutdowns and other issues) + allows you to take some weight off. But since no prep got big in Brazil, people found out it's easier to drive all four wheels to improve traction over making big mods to fit wider tires or a completely different transmission setup, for example.
Could you do a 1st gen Colorado 5 cylinder AWD truck? If not AWD at least boosted 5 cylinder version of the Atlas would love to see what it is capable of.
Agreed. TPS should probably be hardwired if you are doing fuel control with the Maxxecu. Coolant temp is perfectly fine with a couple hundred milliseconds of delay
so, just throwing this out there but.. to do the 5 lug swap on my Saab 9-7x I used 04 S10 front hubs and cut the cv end down to use to keep the bearing together for the rwd swap, then just redrilled the factory brake rotors.
This is awesome! Also awesome to toy with the idea of swapping this transmission into a 3rd gen with a small block? Also the hub from an 04 s10 bolts up to the tb. Never got around to the rear axle test. But im sure it does.
LOL was just thinking of a ZF8HP rather than a 4L80e in a trailblazer like an hour ago. What are the odds? Took you a while to find a clean example but for anyone else Ecuador has these things everywhere. They look brand new. At least in Cuenca away from the ocean.
There's a company in Europe called TurboLamik that makes a stand-alone TCU for it. They can do all kinds of fun stuff, even emulate a clutch pedal. But I think the software is proprietary. Edit: This info may not be helpful to you, since you're using a MaxxECU. But maybe it'll help a viewer?
Don't Hellcats use the 8HP90? I have an 8hp70 ready to go in my E46 when I decide to give it some down time. I'm also on a MaxxECU. Such a great tuning solution
If you keep the AWD, you should be able to program any potential torque steer out of it w/ that ECU, no? Since everything is CAN? Or maybe just more trouble than it's worth for something it sounds like you don't want to deal with and which isn't needed to get to where you're going :D AWD sure is great in the snow though, I imagine especially so w/ your high stall converter
The front wheel drive system is just not necessary for what my goals are. The only scenario where it is worth keeping is if I were into street racing, which I am so not into.
I always get maxxecu and classicecu mixed up... I wasnt aware of maxxecu mini. Interesting. I know ms3 pro mini came out not long ago either. So many options. I think joker? Had a half off sale for carb mount ecu, like $600 to start, cheaper than holley snipers. I know everyone likes port injection but tbi isnt bad for a sub 650hp street car as opposed to having to buy new injectors for power changes and all that jazz.... I always think its a tough call, ideally port injection but tbi for the price always looks enticing.
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Love this build but dont forget the northstar!
We won't
Can I tell them yet? Can I tell them?
I came here to say the same lol, Calvin is the converter built for the gm engine or is the snout on the converter the same for gm/mopar?
Not yet Dad. Patience. Lol
Not yet Dad. Patience. Lol
9:04 Calvin! DUDE!!! That MaxxECU CAN bus sniffing is AWESOME!!! I didn't know an ECU could do such a thing.
I'm always trying to mod oddball cars and have had the same exact problem. Begging for support. Or just having to use tons of analog ins and out.
I knew of CAN bus sniffers but having a fully programmable ECU is PERFECT for someone doing a piggyback.
THANK YOU!
I’m looking forward to seeing you take all the gm hate for mechanics out of that chassis.
Me too.
Thank GOD you’re gonna put it up for sale!! 😭💖
This is so interesting! Feels like I’m light years behind on the can stuff haha
Yes
Yes
Yes!
I'd like to point on the 8HP70 is the 5.7 and 392 trans, Hellcats got the 8HP90.
Very cool. There are front hubs from some specific s10 blazers (2003 4wd iirc) that people use to convert to 5 lug. That said your plan simplifies a lot of things and should save a bunch of weight!
Exactly. Someone gets it.
I'm watching the CANBUS portion of this video for the third time. Contemplating exactly how you will integrate the CAN of the MaxxECU with the CAN of the vehicle and the factory modules. Such as which one you will leave in charge of controlling the throttle and which one will be left just making use of the information about what is happening on the CANBUS... VERY interesting to find out what ends up working well for you! This is an actual gamechanger in a lot of ways.
Yep. I still want my cruise control, so factory ECU will do the throttle control for now. I'm still figuring out the rest.
@@Calvin-Nelson AMAZING!! I can't wait to see how it all shakes out! I hope you have enough energy to give us a thorough description of the interaction of all of the components like you did in this video. Thanks! :)
I just learned something today about Can Buss. Thank you 😊 very much
I'm stoked for the f body spindle 2wd conversion!!
You're always thinking outside of the box. Love it!
Very cool !
I work as a Toolmaker for ZF at their Marysville Axle Plant. Great engineering and products.
I believe the Hellcat rear diff has a 230 3.09 rear gear.
We do also build a 230 3.70 rear gear also, and a new HD260 3.92 rear Beam solid Axle also
Good to know. I honestly hadn't gotten to the point of figuring out what ratios they came with.
@@Calvin-Nelson The Hd260 or RBA will be in the RHO trucks along with a special ( tougher ) 215 3.92 front drive unit.
I'm definitely following this hybrid build.
Man the GMT360 guys are going to be all over you about that front suspension setup. Dudes are going to be banging down your door wanting more info STAT. As a 97x owner I love where this is going and can't wait for more! I also hope you share/produce the parts needed for that front suspension swap haha.
Yeah. We will see. If there is demand for it, I'll sell parts
Tbss guys use blazer hub and bearings to go 5 lug in the stock knuckle.
It's the Colorado/Canyon that needs the most help in the front end.
This ecu is incredible! I've got to have one. I hope they work with you.
Tell them I sent you
Of course it's incredible, it's developed in Sweden👍I'm pretty sure Natanael and the boys at Maxxecu will help him, if he needs some help,it looks like he has it under control!
Absolutely love this. Finding non standard parts to get the job done. It gives you a nice little buzz when you crack the puzzle
love the fact you always are making a difference in the race car community, trying new things and getting who you need involved to progress these builds to another level and even making your own parts.
I have to admit, I wasn’t on board with this at first but I really like what you’re doing
I am doing the same thing, Maxxecu and 8HP70 running on a LS in a light weight car. Thanks for detailing the CAN analyzer. Pretty cool 2 little 24ga wires run the transmission!
Very nice!
Really admire the creativity, but if you could find a flywheel that would work, a stick shift sure would be nice in that Trailblazer. Maybe a Colorado 2.9 flywheel could be made to work since they're around somewhat?
I fully support your RWD goals. Friends don't let friends race front wheel drive.
No doubt it's about time the aftermarket has finally begun to embrace CAN. Cool watching the novelty in the existing networking hence the versatility realized.
Looks awesome! May have to explore the spindle options.
P.s. i look forward to making you regret going 2wd 😊
Won't happen!
Looking fwd to this build! Cant wait to see the rear sump conversion
Now thats hot rodding!
nice video keep them coming love from the uk
Dude , I can't wait to see how this does , because I will give it to them . The hellcats have an aggressive shift pattern , and behind a boosted engine , I think it will do great and should spool quick af with how quick it runs the gears , should basically stay in boost 80% the time ... right on Calvin, can't wait again to see how this works out and I would deff be interested in the adaptor plate .. (got a 08 trailblazer lt 4.2) and I am trying to convince the wife to let me make it a lil funner 😅 she won't let me do manual swaps as she not comfy driving manual , but this trans could be on paddle shifts 😮💪🏽🤙🏽🤘🏽✌🏽.. mad props cal , peace and love bro , keep it rad, stay safe, and build on..l8r famz and keep having fun all
Another cool side effect of the spindle and a arm swap is maybe it will lower the Trailblazer a little bit!. 🍺
Exactly
That transmission is the a key to the puzzle
Sound German Automotive offers a standalone transmission controller for the 8hp series transmissions for people that use them in swaps. It uses the factory transmission shifter from the charger or challenger and would probably be worth looking into for yourself.
Maxxecu has their own control and firmware. I'll use that.
Which one has the best price?
@@warriorplutotrent3827 maxxecu mini by the looks of it and is much more flexible
The things you are doing are awesome! Keep it up!
The northstar has been slept on for decades. I’d love to put one in a oj bronco.
Inspiring , very inspiring. That can bus stuff is way gnarl! If My Wife's Envoy outruns my Volvo wagon, I'm not sure if I will be sad, mad or glad. I surely will blame you. LOL. Great info !!
Going to be an awesome build brother!!!!
Very cool build! I really like how you identify and solve problems using parts from other vehicles or modifying existing pieces.
I’m excited for this build!
Brutal compré una Trailblazer, porque ví tu canal y me enamore del 4.2 atlas. Quiero hacerla standard con una transmisión ar5 . Saludos desde Puerto Rico 🇵🇷👍🏻💪🏻🔥
Another great build.
Yep cats are great i got a few my self fun critters to have around our black one is 21lb big boy
Shew. That is a big boy. I've always been a cat guy. They're the best.
I absolutely love how clean this truck is !! Wow it’s gonna be fast rwd
They used the 8hp90 and 95. Not the 70. The 70 was only for 5.7 and 3.0 diesel. The 70 stands for 700 Nm of torque max capability. 90 is 900 and 95 is 950 Nm
They seem to hold up in the bmws which is also inline 6
Mines a GA8HP70 from a 650i, behind a 686chp LS3, Domi adaoter, Turbolamik. Had originally bought a ZF8hp75 from a Stelvio/Foglio model- about 6 weeks into building an adaoter gave up and bought the DomiWorks and another trans lol. WAYYY more work than I was ready for! I'll get back to it eventually. But the real thing with these transmissions ISNT putting 1200hp thru them. It's putting 800+ftlbs thru the factory tcu. It was never designed to make the torque calculations (it ONLY uses input+ output shaft speeds) on a stock tcu, you get into trouble above 800ish. With the Htg or turbolamik tcu swap, you give it the ability or "operational ability" to make smarter decisions faster and have 100% control. They can then make smarter decisions and handle WAY more power. Just ask any of the supra guys. I started researching and building models and layouts for my swap 3 years ago. Research research research. I joined every group, forum, international chat , and basically mass mailed all the major players til we were on first name basis'. This video could be cool ; but it's 3am and it's gotta wait til the AM! just saw this first comment and thought I'd add some user feedback to at least ONE of the guys that immediately quotes wiki (even tho you had a correct "correction" ) lol. I'm pretty sure if I let it play, he makes that point clear. If you've watched it and he doesnt- good for you, I'm sure he's figured it out since filming. Wait...he was saying 707hp when I paused it...yup- you're 100% he at least starts this video off on an "oops". Well good for you. But anyways, in my group alone, we've got a handful of 12-1400whp cars on stock 70/75s, the only thing I did you mine was had a friend install a sonnax steel for me to toughen up a clutch pack. But basically stock. With a can/tcu he may run into problems down the road, but should hold up quite well. (Can/tcu uses stock tcu) compared to the others using ryuchip/similar solder pcbs/jumper sets. Can't wait to watch!
@beasyphone not sure about the turbolamik. The whole process has always seemed cumbersome. I like the integration that maxxecu has provided. For example, the bmw e9x chassis, they provide a standalone, wiring harness, tcu, and canbus integration for ls swaps for not much more than the cost of the turbolamik by itself.
Amazing will be watching this build closely , giving me some ideas to use on my build
You guys keep doing what you're doing. Love the input, and I like the direction you're going with this!.....
you can use 2000 s10 4x4 front hubs and 2000 Camaro rotor and it will convert a trailblazer to 5x4.75. I did it on my trailblazer ss.
Huh. Good to know. I'm looking at this for the weight savings too.
@@Calvin-Nelson but it's a 1800kg 4x4 so needs strength in the arms to be used safely and g body is 500kg lighter.
I’m at 6:54 and I’m so frikken excited right now!!! Let’s go!!!!!
This will be an awesome project
Thanks!
Frankenstein built me a torque converter, it stops the engine at 4800. The part I like is if I take off easy it doesnt act like a stall. He built it on the cheap. It will only stand 800 lb. But it has hung in there.
We just picked up a Vortec 8100 for the work truck. I have been struggling on what transmission to put behind it, as the existing 6l80e is showing signs of being tired. I would be very interested in this if it allows me to put the ZF 8HP70 on to the 8.1. Either way, awesome content. Thanks!
One of my other favorite unloved gm engines the 8.1!
Yeah man. I didn't even know these things existed until recently. And then the fates decided to have me see one listed on Craigslist. It's just a the bare block (GM Performance), but I plan on a 500 ft. lb. build at the wheels for the work truck. I suspect I will be well above that when it is all said and done. We shall see!
6L90
@@shadowopsairman1583 I actually want 8 gears. Thoughts? Lots of highway miles in the future. Please give me those multiple over-drive options!! And then why the 6l90? (I mean, besides the obvious)
@@btpjunk the overdrive is similar on both but no aggravation from doing a swap on a car you just want to use.
I cannot wait to see what you do with that northstar. All my car friends thing it’s a waste of time, and I cannot wait for you to prove them wrong
Same lol
I've got a mate who's a transmission builder. They definitely only handle upgraded power for a shorter period of time, he also builds a strong 6l80e. Why not use the srt8/trackhawk box which is AWD? Plus a rebuild for the power is 10-15k when a 6l80 is 6k.
AWD just isn't in line with my goals. Maybe someday on something else.
@@Calvin-NelsonI didn't see 18:03 about it at the point I posted.
@Calvin-Nelson watched further. I thought you would have just put 2wd Chevy truck parts on that are rated for the weight, not much lighter cars? And from what I've watched on the Silverados etc, you can get pretty good brake options for them. And I'd imagine by now not that expensive wheel options rated to the load rating.
And of course, turbo AWD Falcons known as the territory, run 8s with AWD and 1400hp, full weight cars. But I guess 1200hp skyline gt-rs do too and the camera footage of both of them aren't that extreme as cleatus, who is the king of extreme. Especially given its only a 10sec goal, the AWD would help it.
Well Calvin, I'm planning on putting a 46RH trans on my recently purchased LH2 Northstar. lol😅. No really...
But thats going to be a ways down the road though, I wanna get myself the/an 80's C4 roller body first.
So your building a sleeper SUV so cool
Great plan! I'm eager to see it come together!
Lockup and double overdrive for the tall side, but a 5.25 first gear if I’m not mistaken. Yeehaw 🤠
4.71 first, but yes. Lots of ratio options.
ZF8HP is used in BMW, Range Rover, Jaguar and and Many ratio in BMW.
It is a real madness to make this swap and I really enjoy all of it and love ZF8HP.
So much potential!
Iirc the TBs use the same front wheel bearings 2wd or 4x4. Watch the lower subframes for rust and lower control arm bushing wear. Caster and camber is set on them by moving the lower control arms around.
Yep. I'm trying to shed weight
Steve Morris and Tom Bailey have both been drag racing these SUVs recently, both RWD only. CAN bus is fantastic, so much you can integrate. Good to see you embracing new technology.
SM did have the same car body as CN but his own V8 but TB was raising a DODGE with V6 twin turbo.
@@rvarsigfusson6163 thanks for the clarification, we don't get these in the UK.
Doing big things!!
A technician at last 😊
So glad to see you doing this! After driving a bunch of domestic and fast European cars with various versions of the 8HP in them, I can say without a doubt that "8HP the WORLD" should be something we say a lot. I think I'm done messing with TH400s and 4L80s... The only problem with 8HPs that I can see is that they have so many gears it is kind of too many for fun manual shifting in a lot of cases. But they work so well in automatic mode, it kind of doesn't matter.
OH! I was under the impression that with MaxxECU it wasn't necessary to flash the Dodge transmissions, since the Dodge firmware is what MaxxECU likes? I thought it was only necessary to flash BMW versions or whatever else, over to Dodge firmware??
The guy I talked to says it needs their flash.
@@Calvin-Nelson Ok, maybe I had it backward....
It is going to be awesome 👏
Somebody give this young man a candy 🍬
Love this project! Cant wait to see updates
Should really look into sourcing an HP90 as thats what hellcats use. Goal being 10's a 70 may live but bulletproof would be a HP90.
It definitely needs a much larger front wheel. Jeg's 17x4.5 wheels would look really good!
Yep. I'll see what makes sense
@@Calvin-Nelson the Dodge 8 speed was an unexpected venture! Can't wait to see how it does!
If you haven’t checked already, spec the bearing pack’s OD and see if they’re compatible
Digg’n your content!
Put the northstar in this. Just to mess with peoples heads. An XLR with one of your 4200's in it would have a killer Batmobile vibe.
We have some cool plans for the Northstar. Stay tuned.
@@raj-u6t1m Cadillac xlr? Dang last time I thought about those and looked up the prices and they were pretty crazy. Ive seen alot of jaguars around those years for alot less, 8-12k for a solid body. That would be insanely classic and amazing wow. Like aston martin vibes with an i6 , 800hp.... Or also idk how maybe Northstar but the mr2 later years are pretty good money and value. But rear engine. Similiar if not cheaper than the caddys. I bet that xlr is an electronics nightmare along with all the panels and sound deadener and whatnot. Id like to see a 3000gt 4200 swapped either awd or red conversion.
Some bogarts on the tb would go mad hard. Loving what I'm seeing im a huge huge fan of thr gmt360. It's the perfect size for thr do everything vehicle and they come with excellent engine choices! I had a 97z!😅 Don't do that.. Unique everythubg there. If I was to get another I'd look for an envoy
Being able to read CAN like that is so good, just from being able to use a lot of the stock electricals without re-wiring.
Deleting AWD, though :( It's become a big deal over here, even big power pro mods are sending power to all four wheels. Oddly enough, I see less complaints about torque steer and more issues from bouncing off the start, since most cars are longitudinal FWD VW platforms with their stock gearboxes modified to also couple to a rear diff.
A lot of guys are finding it easier to convert the car to 2WD and go faster over here. If I was more into the street racing stuff, I'd give the 4wd a try
@@Calvin-Nelson I get it, it's far easier to access prep tracks in the US (even with the shutdowns and other issues) + allows you to take some weight off. But since no prep got big in Brazil, people found out it's easier to drive all four wheels to improve traction over making big mods to fit wider tires or a completely different transmission setup, for example.
8hp is the best automatic transmission of this decade
Could you do a 1st gen Colorado 5 cylinder AWD truck? If not AWD at least boosted 5 cylinder version of the Atlas would love to see what it is capable of.
Great progress
Throwing shade at HP Tuners... love it.
CAN delay and defaulted signals are why you may want to use hard-wired inputs for some signals.
Agreed. TPS should probably be hardwired if you are doing fuel control with the Maxxecu. Coolant temp is perfectly fine with a couple hundred milliseconds of delay
Howe makes some long shank ball joints that you can use to get your control arms parallel if you need to.
so, just throwing this out there but.. to do the 5 lug swap on my Saab 9-7x I used 04 S10 front hubs and cut the cv end down to use to keep the bearing together for the rwd swap, then just redrilled the factory brake rotors.
Yep. I'm doing it for the weight savings and need to relocate the rack anyways for rear sump.
Well done 👍
This is awesome! Also awesome to toy with the idea of swapping this transmission into a 3rd gen with a small block?
Also the hub from an 04 s10 bolts up to the tb. Never got around to the rear axle test. But im sure it does.
Very cool
LOL was just thinking of a ZF8HP rather than a 4L80e in a trailblazer like an hour ago. What are the odds? Took you a while to find a clean example but for anyone else Ecuador has these things everywhere. They look brand new. At least in Cuenca away from the ocean.
Psyched to see how the front suspension comes together
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BMW has been using these zf transmissions for awhile now too
even a 6l90 would be good
There is someone doing that to theirs right now. I recommend you go check it out. Look up J Whit.
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The 8HP70 is also popular with the BMW guys. From what I've seen, it seems like a pretty stout gearbox.
For sure.
There's a company in Europe called TurboLamik that makes a stand-alone TCU for it. They can do all kinds of fun stuff, even emulate a clutch pedal. But I think the software is proprietary.
Edit: This info may not be helpful to you, since you're using a MaxxECU. But maybe it'll help a viewer?
Don't Hellcats use the 8HP90? I have an 8hp70 ready to go in my E46 when I decide to give it some down time. I'm also on a MaxxECU. Such a great tuning solution
I think only the later ones have the 90
Piggyback a TPS sensor if you want an easy way to discover where the output is located. Easier than using fire 😅❤
Yep. I like using fire.
For ball joints.. they make "tall" ball joints for the older A-bodies like the chevelle. May be worth looking into
8HP swaps are gaining traction. They're still cheap at junkyards.
Cool swap!
Please don’t forget the northstar build. I am VERY curious since I want to mod my L47 4.0 Northstar
We haven't forgotten at all. I promise we will get to it and it will be cool
The Canalyzer is if you will.
If you keep the AWD, you should be able to program any potential torque steer out of it w/ that ECU, no? Since everything is CAN? Or maybe just more trouble than it's worth for something it sounds like you don't want to deal with and which isn't needed to get to where you're going :D AWD sure is great in the snow though, I imagine especially so w/ your high stall converter
The front wheel drive system is just not necessary for what my goals are.
The only scenario where it is worth keeping is if I were into street racing, which I am so not into.
Good, tough transmission, there may be a bit of sticker shock on fluid and a filter, though...
Yeah. The trans still has the fluid in it. I've heard it was expensive though.
I always get maxxecu and classicecu mixed up... I wasnt aware of maxxecu mini. Interesting. I know ms3 pro mini came out not long ago either. So many options. I think joker? Had a half off sale for carb mount ecu, like $600 to start, cheaper than holley snipers. I know everyone likes port injection but tbi isnt bad for a sub 650hp street car as opposed to having to buy new injectors for power changes and all that jazz.... I always think its a tough call, ideally port injection but tbi for the price always looks enticing.
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You should check out turbolamik TCU for 8hp transmissions.
Finally. A rest trans.