What’s more surface level than P.O.M.E (Product of my Environment). Stop it, revenge isn’t a right. There’s an understanding and expectation of maturation on Durk as a man, not just finances. He’s not a child!
You still don’t get it speak for yourself it’s a lot of things that ain’t right in this world mental illness is real you think someone who seen death or been involved in death see things the way you do when you’re 14 15 16 years old & you’ve been in the streets experiencing trauma before your brain is fully developed your mind is going to be conditioned to think a certain way at that point you a became menace to society you not gone just wake up one day a changed man & I just totally disagree with you on revenge because you probably a civilian that’s how civilians supposed to think ,sports are kind of like the streets nobody care about what you did 10-20 years ago it’s what have done lately & we know the risk bf we signed up durk has always portrayed himself as a gangster why you mad at someone for being exactly who they said they are
@@EBKxH2K victim victim victim, that’s all I heard. Shit like that fly in single mama households, and that still ain’t an excuse. I grew up in the hood, cut that civilian BS out, just more excuses for dumb sh*t. I grew up, that’s the difference. And I doubt Durk is much, if any younger than myself.
@@jujucarl28 again he didn’t say anything like this on the podcast he >tried< to make excuses for why this happened. He sounded ignorant and a lot less smart than he ever has before.
Jaewon is a good kid and doesn’t know what he’s talking about he wants the root to be deep but it’s not deep he’s very protective of idiocy that’s why joe and ish was trying to get to the really root it’s stupidity
It really aint, rappers be tryna “poetisize “ shit like it’s so deep, when it all boils down to “you chose that” you had other choices, but you wanted the easy way, that comes with the lifestyle
Bro is so right its too topics that were passionate and joe stopped the ball the kamala topic on the pod before en tbe lil durk topic could have definitely gone longer and would have still been entertaining I didn't feel drained listening and it was informative.
Not just money. Dude was in position. Shit os way bigger than how he feels about anything. A lotta ppls lives are ruined or drastically changed if he gets locked up. He made it Out. Which is way more important than money
Proving the YN point. Wanna talk about what the right thing to do is when they burnt out themselves done did fed time and everything but still don’t have a path for the YNs to follow
@@thelastkingofjuneit’s the premise of beef and retaliation in its entirety. It’s ok for the government to kill someone via death penalty, but if someone kills my loved one and I kill them I’ll go to jail. When jail is supposed to be rehabilitation and not punishment hence DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
Jaewon full of shit. He tryna be fake deep here but on the pod he didn’t say none of this. The point was Durk through his life away just like Von did. They had everything going for them after making it out the street. But instead of staying on the sidewalk getting therapy and finding another way to stay on top, they ran back into traffic. OTF Crashout Inc.
Durk problem is every young black man from the hood problem , peer pressure. Durk was under alot of pressure because of who is who he portray himself to be and where he comes from. He knew he shouldn’t of done that but it would have made him look a way
Equating grieving a mother to paying for someone to murder another person who didn’t pull the trigger on the person you’re so called “grieving” about is nuts to me. This dude makes some of the silliest points
It’s not about his dad being rich! He doesn’t sit on his a** and let his father take care of him. He’s been working since he went to college. He doesn’t depend on his father’s riches.
Crazy how many cowards there are in these comments. Type to let someone smack you in ya face and say "I dont wanna get in trouble, ima walk awak".. stfu. Yall never lived the life of the people hes referring to
jaewon was off base with this. Wallo tried to tell em to let it go they didnt listen so there goes his "The OG's dont try talk us out of it" point.. Second when does accountability come in? Durk is a 35 year old multi millionaire who threw it all away behind some petty street beef.. as a man who half way to 40!!! aint no excuses.
They gotta be really careful with how they are communicating to this large audience. The joe budden podcast is really jokey now but the show was built in a lot of substance and when these topics come up I think there is a standard that the fans expect from this platform. I agree money has nothing to do with you being human and I also agree shooters are expendable. But the other guest was speaking to a larger picture. The revolving door of violence and the lack of accountability when it comes to criminality is on another level now a days. We’re not just talking about killings but taunting not only opps but the police as-well. If these allegations are true can you really defend that behavior as an adult. And if so how many of these people would really want to interact with. Even from a street frame of mind if u slide don’t hit ur target but hit an innocent person should you really be able to brag about that or be respected?
Who said he’s not attached to the streets? The young man grew up in Yonkers, y’all want him to disconnect from his upbringing, just because YOU THINK he grew up rich in the suburbs.
Jaewon still a kid, he not a father yet so i expect his opinion to be that way, as young men we think we know it all til we have kids of our own to raise
Jae won was born into hella bread. Fake tough act and tone is played out. Making excuses for making dumb mistakes like what durk and others did is nasty work
This convo missed the point of a lot of the criticism. We recognized him trying to find the root, the issue is when getting to the root sounds like shifting accountability to the upbringing, not the decision to do harm as a grown millionaire.
You clearly missed the point? Regardless of being a grown millionaire, some people have psychological issues that need to be addressed, money does absolutely nothing for the root cause of the issue.
@@albundyscollection7933what's there to envy yeah Jada a good rapper he was also on radio crying to puff about his publishing so all that's gangsta shyt is out the window just because somebody speak a truth don't mean they envious or hatin he giving an opinion
Nobody from it doing shit to fix shit I hate that narrative. Yall gone wait till the people who dont understand the culture force their way into fixing the problem
That other guy is slow….yes ppl with money send the shooter etc… generals send an army lol this guy is lost… then he said he got shot 11 times… they out here doing it wrong 😑…🤦🏾♂️
My problem with what Jaewon saying is cool I get it eveybody have they reasons and if you making money in the streets I understand that mind set but durk was no longer in the field he chose to rap and him always keeping one foot in and one foot out is what got him in this situation from the beginning if he want to talk about the root. Chief keef is a prime example that man lost hella people close to him too tray savage , capo , blood money , fredo even tho he didn’t die from gun violence it still hurt and those names just off the top of my head it’s more but he’s now miles away from all this BS cuz he chose to let it go so don’t tell me durk couldn’t do it. 2 people from the same environment but chose different paths all that shit he talking is BS a real man care about what’s important if you got kids and mouths to feed all that shit gotta go out the window if you a real man
Him being removed from that didn’t stop King Von from getting killed, he was having a one on one fight with a rapper and got shot and killed, to believe someone from the streets is just gonna let that go with all the taunting is wishful thinking. You brought up keef but if someone with him got killed in NY when 69 sent the hit, who knows how he would’ve reacted. Street money ain’t the only money that goes to war, just look around the world
@@xman0216 he wasn’t removed that beef started cuz king Von was taking up for durk against YB and quando got involved going at Von cuz he under YB at the end of the day you can’t be a rapper and street nigga either be in the streets or be a rapper it’s 2024 too many examples of it not working out for you to still be doing it , just stay in the streets. Why try to pursue rap professionally ? Why waste ppls time , money , energy ? When the streets are right there ? you could do all the get back and crime you want. Let me guess to get a better life ? Well then that’s ass backwards because if that’s what you want why you still tryna be in the streets so it’s really no excuse you either want a better life or not it’s no I. Between and both choices come with sacrifices you choose which ones you prefer
Flip and Jaewon get the most hate online because they are the most truthful and uncensored on the JBP, believe it or not. Everyone else on there regurgitates whatever the mainstream media talking points are. I noticed this especially whenever they start talking politics. They all turn into Marc Lamont Hill…
Jus cuz his a millionaire don’t need he didn’t go thru nothing, homie was born in the 90s and he even said that his wasn’t there like that, he was always on tour or working and he was still in the hood in yonkers
What’s more surface level than P.O.M.E (Product of my Environment). Stop it, revenge isn’t a right. There’s an understanding and expectation of maturation on Durk as a man, not just finances. He’s not a child!
Thank you ! Mfers keep trying to save mfers for acting childish
You still don’t get it speak for yourself it’s a lot of things that ain’t right in this world mental illness is real you think someone who seen death or been involved in death see things the way you do when you’re 14 15 16 years old & you’ve been in the streets experiencing trauma before your brain is fully developed your mind is going to be conditioned to think a certain way at that point you a became menace to society you not gone just wake up one day a changed man & I just totally disagree with you on revenge because you probably a civilian that’s how civilians supposed to think ,sports are kind of like the streets nobody care about what you did 10-20 years ago it’s what have done lately & we know the risk bf we signed up durk has always portrayed himself as a gangster why you mad at someone for being exactly who they said they are
@@EBKxH2K victim victim victim, that’s all I heard. Shit like that fly in single mama households, and that still ain’t an excuse. I grew up in the hood, cut that civilian BS out, just more excuses for dumb sh*t. I grew up, that’s the difference. And I doubt Durk is much, if any younger than myself.
Little homie is smart.
He is I don’t understand why half of the fan base hates him.
@@jujucarl28 again he didn’t say anything like this on the podcast he >tried< to make excuses for why this happened. He sounded ignorant and a lot less smart than he ever has before.
No tf he’s not.
No he’s not. He’s zesty
@@MalcolmLittle-pw9dz I can understand if you don’t like him but nothing about dude says zesty.
I LOVE UNCOMFORTABLY CONVERSATIONS....ITS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO 😂😂😂🤷🏾♂️‼️
Jaewon is a good kid and doesn’t know what he’s talking about he wants the root to be deep but it’s not deep he’s very protective of idiocy that’s why joe and ish was trying to get to the really root it’s stupidity
It really aint, rappers be tryna “poetisize “ shit like it’s so deep, when it all boils down to “you chose that” you had other choices, but you wanted the easy way, that comes with the lifestyle
That other dude weird. Jaewon makes sense and it's very simple.
Bro is so right its too topics that were passionate and joe stopped the ball the kamala topic on the pod before en tbe lil durk topic could have definitely gone longer and would have still been entertaining I didn't feel drained listening and it was informative.
Not just money. Dude was in position. Shit os way bigger than how he feels about anything. A lotta ppls lives are ruined or drastically changed if he gets locked up. He made it Out. Which is way more important than money
Lil Dirk is obviously rotten to the core, getting rich and moving out the hood changed nothing for the better, it enhanced the BS antics.
Proving the Elders and OGs point. They don't listen, too damn sensitive and have emotional/anger issues when corrected.
Proving the YN point. Wanna talk about what the right thing to do is when they burnt out themselves done did fed time and everything but still don’t have a path for the YNs to follow
Jaewon made points
"i'm from here so i do this" thinking is so basic. So nothing will ever change hein???
No matter what they say the whole beef was stupid
The most pointless beef ever. And look what happened because of it. Niggas dead and in jail
Hey as long as u feel that way about military violence abd police violence.
@@gokugotRacksso you are minimizing law and order and defense of a country to street beef ?
@@thelastkingofjuneThese ninjas be saying anything😂😂😂
@@thelastkingofjuneit’s the premise of beef and retaliation in its entirety. It’s ok for the government to kill someone via death penalty, but if someone kills my loved one and I kill them I’ll go to jail. When jail is supposed to be rehabilitation and not punishment hence DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
Jaewon full of shit. He tryna be fake deep here but on the pod he didn’t say none of this. The point was Durk through his life away just like Von did. They had everything going for them after making it out the street. But instead of staying on the sidewalk getting therapy and finding another way to stay on top, they ran back into traffic.
OTF Crashout Inc.
He is right
Durk problem is every young black man from the hood problem , peer pressure. Durk was under alot of pressure because of who is who he portray himself to be and where he comes from. He knew he shouldn’t of done that but it would have made him look a way
Equating grieving a mother to paying for someone to murder another person who didn’t pull the trigger on the person you’re so called “grieving” about is nuts to me. This dude makes some of the silliest points
"Because of my work set up" aka my dad is rich, he danced around that part.
It’s not about his dad being rich! He doesn’t sit on his a** and let his father take care of him. He’s been working since he went to college. He doesn’t depend on his father’s riches.
@@PatienceLove I know he doesn't sit on as but what is his work?
@@PatienceLovehe had head start in life, stop it
Jaewon is talking the truth
I agreee everything isn’t a joke a young audience also watches the pod and want to hear serious conversations
Agree with everything jaewon said
Crazy how many cowards there are in these comments. Type to let someone smack you in ya face and say "I dont wanna get in trouble, ima walk awak".. stfu. Yall never lived the life of the people hes referring to
Jaewon said a bunch of bullshit on the pod though
How? The point he brought up about 🥷in the streets turning they pain into violence is 100% a fact
Who is going to retaliate Jwon…none of y’all are gangsters. You and your dad come from the burbs. Stop capping.
jaewon was off base with this. Wallo tried to tell em to let it go they didnt listen so there goes his "The OG's dont try talk us out of it" point.. Second when does accountability come in? Durk is a 35 year old multi millionaire who threw it all away behind some petty street beef.. as a man who half way to 40!!! aint no excuses.
Durk is beefing with people out side of Chicago what don’t he understand
They gotta be really careful with how they are communicating to this large audience. The joe budden podcast is really jokey now but the show was built in a lot of substance and when these topics come up I think there is a standard that the fans expect from this platform. I agree money has nothing to do with you being human and I also agree shooters are expendable. But the other guest was speaking to a larger picture. The revolving door of violence and the lack of accountability when it comes to criminality is on another level now a days. We’re not just talking about killings but taunting not only opps but the police as-well. If these allegations are true can you really defend that behavior as an adult. And if so how many of these people would really want to interact with. Even from a street frame of mind if u slide don’t hit ur target but hit an innocent person should you really be able to brag about that or be respected?
Why he want to attach himself to the streets so bad yo
Who said he’s not attached to the streets? The young man grew up in Yonkers, y’all want him to disconnect from his upbringing, just because YOU THINK he grew up rich in the suburbs.
This jaewon dude is so corny
At the end of the day it don't matter what you been through nobody crying for you ..... Durk was dumb simple.
Jaewon still a kid, he not a father yet so i expect his opinion to be that way, as young men we think we know it all til we have kids of our own to raise
Jae won was born into hella bread. Fake tough act and tone is played out. Making excuses for making dumb mistakes like what durk and others did is nasty work
Maaan, we just a lost azz race when it comes to this foolishness
This convo missed the point of a lot of the criticism. We recognized him trying to find the root, the issue is when getting to the root sounds like shifting accountability to the upbringing, not the decision to do harm as a grown millionaire.
You clearly missed the point? Regardless of being a grown millionaire, some people have psychological issues that need to be addressed, money does absolutely nothing for the root cause of the issue.
Gaithersburg is the suburb of Maryland not dc Gaithersburg is not apart of dc
He’s slow. Lead baby
IS THIS JADAKISS KID ❓❓❓❓
You don't have to work because you're father is Jadakiss. You don't even rap anywhere as good either
Your envy of him...is leaking thru the message...
@@albundyscollection7933 no I don't he's not successful Jaden Smith would someone to envy
@@albundyscollection7933what's there to envy yeah Jada a good rapper he was also on radio crying to puff about his publishing so all that's gangsta shyt is out the window just because somebody speak a truth don't mean they envious or hatin he giving an opinion
@@brianturner4760well put ya own child in the same position 😂😂😂😂
@@krownheightsgang7053 I will when or if I have one
This dude knows nothing about the root or cares to fix it . Will do nothing to fix it . Your not even from it .
If you would of slid and got caught . You will tell .
Nobody from it doing shit to fix shit I hate that narrative. Yall gone wait till the people who dont understand the culture force their way into fixing the problem
Pointless conversation…
That other guy is slow….yes ppl with money send the shooter etc… generals send an army lol this guy is lost… then he said he got shot 11 times… they out here doing it wrong 😑…🤦🏾♂️
Homie from baltimore wasnt making sense at all
This BDJ guy is a dummy 😂😂 don’t let him talk no more
My problem with what Jaewon saying is cool I get it eveybody have they reasons and if you making money in the streets I understand that mind set but durk was no longer in the field he chose to rap and him always keeping one foot in and one foot out is what got him in this situation from the beginning if he want to talk about the root. Chief keef is a prime example that man lost hella people close to him too tray savage , capo , blood money , fredo even tho he didn’t die from gun violence it still hurt and those names just off the top of my head it’s more but he’s now miles away from all this BS cuz he chose to let it go so don’t tell me durk couldn’t do it. 2 people from the same environment but chose different paths all that shit he talking is BS a real man care about what’s important if you got kids and mouths to feed all that shit gotta go out the window if you a real man
Him being removed from that didn’t stop King Von from getting killed, he was having a one on one fight with a rapper and got shot and killed, to believe someone from the streets is just gonna let that go with all the taunting is wishful thinking. You brought up keef but if someone with him got killed in NY when 69 sent the hit, who knows how he would’ve reacted. Street money ain’t the only money that goes to war, just look around the world
@@xman0216 he wasn’t removed that beef started cuz king Von was taking up for durk against YB and quando got involved going at Von cuz he under YB at the end of the day you can’t be a rapper and street nigga either be in the streets or be a rapper it’s 2024 too many examples of it not working out for you to still be doing it , just stay in the streets. Why try to pursue rap professionally ? Why waste ppls time , money , energy ? When the streets are right there ? you could do all the get back and crime you want. Let me guess to get a better life ? Well then that’s ass backwards because if that’s what you want why you still tryna be in the streets so it’s really no excuse you either want a better life or not it’s no I. Between and both choices come with sacrifices you choose which ones you prefer
I agree and disagree Jaewon.
Flip and Jaewon get the most hate online because they are the most truthful and uncensored on the JBP, believe it or not. Everyone else on there regurgitates whatever the mainstream media talking points are. I noticed this especially whenever they start talking politics. They all turn into Marc Lamont Hill…
What does jadakiss son know about the streets 😂😂
More than you Factz
What does Jadakiss know about the streets.
He should have his own pod. His chemistry with this pod is very low. He does not fit.
This kid dad was a millionaire his whole life. His mindset is embarrassing. Failed youth mentoring failed youth.
Jus cuz his a millionaire don’t need he didn’t go thru nothing, homie was born in the 90s and he even said that his wasn’t there like that, he was always on tour or working and he was still in the hood in yonkers
@@biggblakk his dad being a millionaire and an absentee parent is the embarrassing part
He's not a kid. He 27 y/o gang.
@@izzy_bozay he younger than me and presents as a kid 🤷♂️
How do y’all know Jada’s BEEN a millionaire?
and you got Hit 11 Times you needa go get back forget doing a podcast
Jaewon grew up in the suburbs
No he didn’t lmfao, he lived in yonkers with his pops
No he did not, his mother and father are from Yonkers, he grew up in Yonkers.
Kiss son is corny emanny is too. The pod was better when it was just ish, ice, parks, and surf. Now it’s just a show and tell type shit
Agreed!!
I can’t wait till Tsu come home. Hopefully Joe immediately gets rid of Mel, Flip & Jaewon. He tried his best to fill a spot meant for Tsu
Surf would’ve been sympathetic to Durk too lmao wtf
Man stop complaining bro
Facts