Timestamps 0:50 Patrick built a LEGO Batcave. 2:00 Brandon Sanderson asks "What changes would you make to TH-cam to counteract [the problems of 'content']?" 9:04 "The term 'content' is not inaccurate but is horrifying to me." 9:29 "I like the use of pink hearts around Martin Scorsese's head." 11:34 "This reminds me of people who want to call 'motion capture' 'performance capture' instead." 12:41 "I like the teases at the end about next video's topic." 13:57 "Quentin Tarantino got his start as a 'Golden Girls' extra, and used the residuals to fund his movies." 15:15 "I dislike the term 'Intellectual Property'." 16:53 "Your gender gap in viewers may be due to defaulting to male." 18:01 "AI acting requires VFX artist intervention, so they can strike too if needed." 19:55 "I like your LEGO Batcave." 21:36 "How do you feel about 'Franchise'?" 23:00 "Is the voice of the Bill Gates essay the [modern] voice of Extra Credits?" 23:41 "How does 'content-ification' affect different media?" 25:38 "Isn't the content model the same as cable TV?" 27:52 "I enjoy the title cards." 32:17 "On Spotify, paying residuals has not saved the platform from contentification. Would residuals work for Netflix?" 36:58 "How do you feel about the term 'Media'?" 38:31 "How does Nebula work on the back-end?" 44:02 "Are you bothered by the TMDb submission rules?" 46:56 "Has you relationship with the word 'content' changed over time?" 48:22 "What is the reason behind the costume changes?" 52:45 "Why did the hair video change from a Tier List to a straight rank?" 53:42 "You should rank every Tom Cruise run." 55:07 "'Content' is used to emphasize the money-making potential of a work." 56:29 "'Content' terms have also entered into the news media." 58:22 Wrap-up
Absolutely love that Brandon Sanderson watches your videos. He actually teaches at the university I work at (where I am watching this video currently).
With respect to the question on the Distribution Brand vs the Creator, it seems that A24 is actually making some interesting strides in this direction. Insofar as they clearly want to create a known production & distribution brand, and have that be the thing that entices you to see their stuff, but they have also been very deliberate about that brand identity being synonymous with real creative work being given proper creative freedom. And for the moment, it seems to be working. Like, what other production company has such a devoted following that people buy merch *from the producer*? Who buys a Universal tote bag?
well, Universal is probably a bad example there, because you _can_ absolutely buy branded stuff like tote bags, mugs/cups, etc. at Universal parks. (speaking as a Floridian who has been to Universal hundreds of times in her life-part of that is obviously fandom for the parks themselves and people wanting souvenirs, for sure; but Universal parks are still very much selling people on their distinct "Universal grandeur," à la Disney, and you can't divorce the parks from that.) Paramount is certainly a better comparison for your point.
As a ten-percenter, professional visual artist who's been posting art online for decades now, your videos are extremely on point. I've been recommending your channel to friends and colleagues!
I, a member of your unknowable ENBY audience, recently discovered your "content" 😂 (sorry, I couldn't resist), but I have found your videos captivating! The handful of episodes I've watched have been thought provoking, and really engaging. Thank you for your creations and work.
Patrick, as one of the 90%, I share your videos with my (female) best friend, my daughter, my sisters, and my mom. Even though I then have to endure my mother telling me that I should make videos like yours. I shouldn't. I can't.
@JSSMVCJR2.1 Several reasons, but the most insurmountable reason is that I lack Patrick's passion or drive or what have you for all the various aspects that go into a single project at this level, let alone several in a month. I am (and this is a mixed blessing) a talker, and I might take a stab at an audio only podcast... if I can justify putting another middle-aged male out there talking about shit he likes. 😀
"Well, *Patrick's* videos get views and replies from Brandon Sanderson... *His* mother must be proud...." This is the disembodied mom voice I heard while reading your comment. Had to share.
10 percenter here: Much of this video I was staring nervously at the glass behind Patrick as he gestured in the inimitable Patrick way. Awesome Sanderson commented! He's really invested in this issue and has used his unique position to as much as possible counteract Amazon's nasty Audible near-monopoly.
Was literally watching on Nebula and wanted to comment on webseries, specifically in the English space. While it's true that the industry has geared the algorithm towards easily quantifiable casual-short-form video, there is clearly an appitite for it based on trends in Asia and in the more enthusiast TH-cam communities. There are some interesting projects in the animation space like Lackadaisies, Helluva Boss and Murder Drones that are leveraging the episodic, serialized format but there's also plenty of Horror and ARGs that play with and between mediums to tell their own stories, often with audience participation. There's also some super long form, improve stuff like Critical Role/RPGs and SMP games where people enjoy watching stories come to life over hundreds of hours. Hell, I'd even consider the PHW streamatic universe a form of web series and I sometimes see that itch in other TH-camrs to tell a larger narratives. You're right that webseries, as internet TV, was overrun by Netflix but I do think the idea evolved to better use the medium.
You could get the "staff picks" feature by building your own service. Imagine a social media platform where you can ONLY share links to videos, films, books, etc. with a blurb. Actually, there is the social media network title - blurb. Then individual critics have power (rather than just their "platform" - rotten tomatoes. People could follow the curator (name for users on this platform) whose tastes match theirs, so "staff picks" reflect your taste and the platform isn't playing favorites.
Not sure if you’ll end up seeing this, but to your point around 8:20 or so: I’m a habitual TH-cam enjoyer who has a catalog of great videos I love to go back to and share with others. Your Plot Holes, Needle Drops, and and recent Wes Anderson AI filmmaking videos consistently rank highly among them, so thank you!
Hey thanks for tackling my gender statistic question, even though you didn't know either! It's super interesting, I really hope someone is able to look into it deeper and give us a more thorough answer. We already know the stats are sub-par, but stats are so useless when you don't have all the information that created them
"Intellectual property" is a legal term that's become corporate jargon. It means something very specific in the law. And as an IP lawyer, it's gross and strange to hear corporate executives (let alone random people on the internet) refer to "IP" in vague and incorrect ways.
This worship of content is surely just a reflection of the new idea that an area or institution is great merely because of the diversity of the people who populate it. There is an old cockney tailor’s saying that describes the attitude of those who see films or books as content: never mind the quality, feel the width.
43:15 Asking a question about a question for clarification. You said here that Nebula doesn't provide you with view count. So how do you know if a particular video is doing well? How does the earnings work in Nebula from the side of a creator like you?
The whole thing around Tarantino ( and14:40) reminds me of a great Stephen Jay Gould quote - “I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”. And i'll take any opportunity to share it!
That comics comment hit hard. It's so difficult to talk big name name comic creators let alone the smaller ones.The comics fandom is already small and it's even more difficult to meet some who would have a minimal understanding of the following sentences. Frank D'Armata has improved as colorist so much compared to his mid 2000s work. Clayton Cowles seems like he's have fun and doing his best work on Adventureman. Brian Level and Jay Leisten are a dynamite team together.
I haven't been reading comics as much lately so I can't speak to everyone you mentioned here (though I do recognize their names), but I will say that Clayton Cowles is an incredible letterer. especially love his work on DIE. personally, my favorite letterer is Aditya Bidikar, who is stunning on Isola, Blue in Green, and These Savage Shores.
I agree that writers, actors etc need better compensation. I worry though that if streaming focuses to much on residuals as a way of providing that compensation we'll just see providers drop shows and movies faster to stop paying so much in risiduals. I don't know what the solution to that problem is though.
Made myself laugh thinking “maybe we can replace ‘content’ with ‘meat,’ as in ‘the meat of the video.’” Then I realized creators can start saying “watch my meat!” Also, you could probably mount the bat cave directly on the wall too. It would stick out more and would require jerry-rigging the mount yourself, but as long as the back of it is flat, it could work.
I have a similar issue related to your thoughts on how TH-cam erases the individual creators while promoting the site as a library of TH-cam content. I sell my art on Etsy. The site diminishes the presence of individual sellers by making our shop names tiny and difficult to find. They market and display items like Amazon, giving the impression that people are buying from Etsy as an entity rather than a collection of individual artisans. Talks about IP come up frequently on the forums because counterfeit items are a rampant issue there. The general public is very uninformed about the difference between creating personal fan art and trying to profit from someone else’s IP. While the theft is usually of pop culture stuff, if an individual has one of their own unique creations find popularity on the platform the copycats start ripping them off quick
You can turn the Lego batcave into a lamp and put it on the floor maybe, it will be kinda cute... btw the video about content was a really great content 😅 (cringe comment done)
Hello Patrick! It's your 10% female audience here! Gotta say bizarre to see a Brandon Sanderson comment here considering I paused my reread of Way of Kings to watch this.
as a female channel member, I share the same vitriol for the word content for the same reasons, so I was overjoyed when I watched that as my first video. I stayed for RRR, because its the greatest movie ever made.
On the whole audience gender ratio thing, I can’t help but wonder if the ratios are skewed by wether or not men are more likely to be signed into youtube.
Authors on Kindle Unlimited (basically book Netflix) are compensated by pages read. There's a big pot of money monthly, and if you have 5% of the pages read that month, you get 5% of that pot. But, as Sanderson discussed, if you're around KU readers books in that space often treated pretty much like churned through bits of content to binge and forget rather than specifically selected works you sit with. No judgment to KU readers, but the model does set it up that these books are valued as ideviudal works un to themselves
If patrick made this video in 2019, it would have a very different vibe given what has happened to the industry over the past 3 years. Also being fixated on silly words instead of deeper meanings was more of a 2017 era video essay style critique. The space was a little more film bro and less nuanced then
As far as the word "franchise" is concerned, I've always hated it for its flattening of storytelling and art into a product to be distributed (Dunkin Donuts is a franchise. The Godfather is not) but I can see how it would apply to multimedia like Star Wars. Movies, games, shows, books, comics, etc. With something so huge, it is a licensable property that a creator can basically get in on and contribute to, not unlike franchising a fast food joint. It's YOUR McDonald's. But it's still a McDonald's. Something that made me gag a while back was somebody talking about a single movie as a franchise. A single, solitary stand alone movie, with discussions of a potential sequel many years later. Groundhog Day or something like that. "Are they going to continue the franchise?" What franchise? It's one movie. What the hell are you talking about, stop talking like a soulless executive who wants another pair yachts.
hi. i’m non-binary (gender-fluid, agenderflux, 2 spirt if Indé have that) and the 2 non-binary people i play video games with also watch your videos. (one got me into your work) pretty sure it defaults everything that isn’t “woman” to male cuz that’s how the internet tends to do shit unfortunately (also on my part the my account predates me coming out by a noticeable amount)
Regarding your gender analytics. I am a guy whose YT profile is a woman in her 70s ... I found that trick to decrease the amount of advertising I was getting. Although it is less efficient nowadays :( Just to say that your actual female audience might lower than what it actually is.
I took a break from listening to my Brandon Sanderson audiobook so I can watch a TH-cam video before I read a different Brandon Sanderson book on my kindle in bed and then the video is immediately responding to a question from Brandon Sanderson. This must be a sign or something…
For the Tom Cruise running video you should rank movies and for every movie create a composite weighted score based on quantity (how many runs and how long are they?), quality (how good is the running?) and thirdly a heuristic component (some call this gut feeling, but I'd rather say it's -informed- gut feeling - you're the expert, and this is how to make that count in the ranking). / Your friendly (not necessarily neighborhood) statistician
Games Workshop is kind of falling into that "platform over creator" thing as well where they are scared of their writers and painters becoming internet famous (or infamous) and they've instituted a "no face" rule on videos and a "no name" policy on rule books and supplements.
25:00. Are they though? Because there are prolific authors who have been long rumored to have ghost writers like James Patterson. Also, there will often be a series that publishers want to continue after an author's death, so they just get new people to write and will call it so and so's character in title by living author. Some examples of this would be Robert Ludlum and Ian Fleming.
I think his point still stands. The books are still being sold based on author name recognition. Therefore promoting at least the author's name is still important.
I think you briefly mentioned something like this in the actual video, but I could totally believe that "content" was a term that engineering came up with internally that marketing then latched onto and made external. In the programming world we like to label things as generically as possible (for example, if you make a website for a repair shop that services cars, motorcycles, boats, etc, in the code you'd refer to those as "vehicles", since all cars are vehicles, but not the other way around). I can imagine the Netflix source code using the term "content" as the generic term for movie, show, game, etc, and then someone higher up thought that sounded like a good term to brand everything with. PS Hi from Saratoga!
I would say that the author brand name value in publishing is slowly being edged into series brand value, with more authors in genre fiction being forced into signing deals not just for trilogies, but long-running series. We're also seeing more secondary authors being brought in to accelerate popular franchises.
23:37 Oh nice, I appeared on a Replies episode! Neat! 😊 Thank you for responding to my question, and I agree! I think something like a movie or tv show has far more people involved in its creation than something like a book or a music piece. Also, its alright! For future reference, its pronounced ("EE-kay" - Ike, "Oh-ker-uh-KAY" - Okereke).
I feel a little late to the comment party but I work in Tech, and the first time I had a manager refer to me as a "resource" really made my skin crawl in the same way you feel about your work being labelled "content". Fuck the Execs!
I have nebula but I'm not really a fan of the lack of comments It is a platform meant for the hard-core fans of these type of creators The ability to have comments should be there and it could be an option to turn it off as the creator
sorry but no. why would comments make it better? do you want there to be comments on netflix or hulu as well? comments sections have only ever made things worse
@@patrickwillemspresents1220 You're not wrong, but I feel like Nebula's comment section would potentially be better as it's not 100% public and is behind a paywall unlike TH-cam.
@@patrickwillemspresents1220 Yo ur cool. Counterpoint, I would love comments on netflix actually. Most of the torrents i watch have comments, and mcu movies for example are way more fun with them
sorry to say I must be throwing off your metrics, I watch all your videos with two other women, but we always use my account/browser to watch youtube on
Wait, so Nebula doesn’t have view counts, even for the authors of the videos? How does it distribute its earnings, then? I thought it distributed them based on watch time.
1. "Video Essay" is a good name for these things. 2. Might be interesting to do a collaboration essay with a woman YTer who focuses on movies. Be Kind Rewind comes to mind. I'm reminded of the collab that Johnny Harris did with his former Vox colleague Cleo Abrams, covering different sides of the nuclear energy debate.
12:41 Thanks for responding to my comment! 😅 I didn’t expect to be featured in a Patrick Replies video! For more context, when I was visiting the Middle East, Happy Meal boxes had those pamphlets for next month’s toys, but I’m not sure about the US.
Once Nebula is taken over by a giant corp (which eventually it will be and which I am sure is lucrative for those involved), everything will become "Content".
I'll admit that I was partly distracted by Patrick's shirt and my confusion as to why it didn't say "The Hair-as Tour", in honour of Ethan Hunt's various hairstyles. I find the point around 25:30 a bit odd to me because...it feels like directors, writers, etc. have become *more important* than they were a couple decades ago. Now, this could obviously be my own shifting observances based on age and community, etc., but I feel like in the 90s especially, very few movies were talked about from the view of "it's directed by ____" or "____ wrote it" (Tarantino and Kevin Smith are definitely the best counter-arguments I've got from the mid to late 90s, with maybe Guy Ritchie later, but even into the early 00s most people I knew spoke of them more from the genre or the concept, not the person behind the lens or the page) at least by "ordinary people" who aren't "film nerds". Sure, there were movies you'd know were Spielberg's, but most talk I'd hear focused on the movie rather than the man. Nowadays, there seems to be a lot more scrutiny about this director (in particular) or even writer, especially with genre films (sorry, superheroes, you still fall into that category), something that feels like it grew mainly in the last 15 years (the first real big critical response I remember on that front was for Brett Ratner helming X-Men 3 in 2006). Again, that might just be a shift in what I pay attention to and what I'm exposed to, or how big "genre films" really are nowadays, but the point still feels odd to me. I guess part of it is how so many films I remember from the 80s and 90s felt like they were assembled by...whomever. Joe Johnston's filmography in particular feels very much that way, having one of the weirdest variances I can think of (Honey, I Shrunk the Kids to The Rocketeer to Jumanji to October Sky to Jurassic Park III to Hidalgo The Wolfman to Captain America: The First Avenger is just wild). I guess what I'm saying is that studios are just trying to regain that focus they used to have for decades?
I am the “Mom” completely out of your demographic. You popped up on my TH-cam feed about 2 months ago and I’ve been enjoying you’re videos since. 😊 May more “moms” be exposed to your brand of white guy in glasses talking about movies.
The notion of content reminded me of the importance of quality and uniqueness in movies, which reminded me of the graphic artist Annie Atkins because I just watched a video about her. She's done a lot of work for Wes Anderson, and pronounces it "Wez." Because it's all connected.
In the spirit of Patrick's idea of recommending videos, it'd be great to get some recommendations going for great TH-cam videos. Here's one of my favourites, from Quality Culture, about Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli: th-cam.com/video/UG6XzB_J3IA/w-d-xo.html
Correction. Tarantino didn't use the residuals from Golden Girls to fund any of his movies. It helped him earn some money tough while he still worked a minimum wage job for years. He then sold the script for True Romance for about 30 000 dollars which he still didn't use to help fund his first film but would have if it had gotten to that. In the end Resevoir Dogs was funded in the normal way. It cost 1.5 Million dollars. To claim that this was funded by the Golden Girls money is simply incorrect.
TH-cam users are overwhelmingly male so those statistics aren't strange at all. You have to start doing make-up tutorials to get those female numbers up.
To answer Brandon Sanderson‘s concern, services like PlayStation plus and even Audible come with a discount for books. Like a limited time price where you get an additional discount on something that’s already discounted. If Kendall unlimited or Amazon prime came with a respective e-book or book or movie or TV show discount, would that feed more income to those industries at large?
I'm a new fan and a chick! When I saw what you said, I realized I actually have no idea what my female friends watch on TH-cam. Movies, books, TV yes, but I've never asked them what do they watch on TH-cam. I'm curious now and will find out. Btw I have forgiven you for the Plot Holes video so... you're welcome.
Preface: haven’t seen the original Content video. It won’t come up on your channel. If it’s on a different channel I’ll have to search for it, this video just happened to come up on my timeline. I’m glad the “what about the word media” question came up because that at least answers a question I’ve had about the arguments about the word “content.” But… I’m sorry I just don’t get it. Maybe it’s something you have to be in the actual industry to understand? And I’m definitely not a professional artist? But every time it comes up, the word “content” is treated like an axiomatically negative word and nobody can explain to me why. They always just repeat that it’s bad, tell me I have views on the arts that I don’t have, and sometimes things get weirdly gatekeepy (including an instance of it being asserted that the word content “lets people who make garbage think they make art.”) I even ask for an alternative for instances where the word “content” feels contextually appropriate and am repeatedly ignored. Except for one person saying “entertainment” which doesn’t work and now this video saying “media,” which does work. But it feels lateral. Like, I work at a library. We have materials. Neutral word, could refer to all kinds of things we carry. A video store has inventory. A tv channel has programming. Technically ALL of those things have “media.” A source for media has an all-encompassing word to use for the media it has to offer. “Content” seemed like a perfectly cromulent word for what streaming services have, and I genuinely don’t get why the word is prima fascia rude. If it’s the way execs are using it, then would replacing it with another word really help? Again, if it’s just something you have to be in the industry itself to understand then I’ll relent. It’s a frustrating prospect because I prefer to understand something rather than not, but I don’t have to understand everything. And it’s not like I use the word myself, unless it’s the content of a movie or show or something, and that’s pretty rare wording anyway.
Commenting on a comment video where does it end? I will say it was TH-cam’s recommendation engine that suggested you conte…er.. video to me and I love your videos and subscribed after watching the first one recommended to me. Thanks TH-cam! Oh yea, thanks to you too Patrick!
I'm 25 minutes in and all the comments are generally in agreement with your general sentiment. It's a bit disappointing as it's turning into an echo chamber. Please try to pick comments which disagree with your take and provide your counter arguments, it would be more intellectually stimulating!
@15:30 Thank you! I can't stand the term "IP," especially in reference to video games. When Toyota releases a new car model, no one calls it a new "IP," even though technically it is.
If you were the only one who had an issue with mislabeling art as "content", nobody would have watched. It has clearly already rankled a substantial percentage of your audience. Not alone but not original either. I thought the video was good.
Wow, I'm tripping out pretty hard right now because I predicted you would say Friday The 13th as you were thinking of an example to compare Star Wars to. 🤯
As part of your 10% female audience, I started watching several years ago after Brandon Sanderson recommended you.
Thumb up to Brandon Sanderson.
Timestamps
0:50 Patrick built a LEGO Batcave.
2:00 Brandon Sanderson asks "What changes would you make to TH-cam to counteract [the problems of 'content']?"
9:04 "The term 'content' is not inaccurate but is horrifying to me."
9:29 "I like the use of pink hearts around Martin Scorsese's head."
11:34 "This reminds me of people who want to call 'motion capture' 'performance capture' instead."
12:41 "I like the teases at the end about next video's topic."
13:57 "Quentin Tarantino got his start as a 'Golden Girls' extra, and used the residuals to fund his movies."
15:15 "I dislike the term 'Intellectual Property'."
16:53 "Your gender gap in viewers may be due to defaulting to male."
18:01 "AI acting requires VFX artist intervention, so they can strike too if needed."
19:55 "I like your LEGO Batcave."
21:36 "How do you feel about 'Franchise'?"
23:00 "Is the voice of the Bill Gates essay the [modern] voice of Extra Credits?"
23:41 "How does 'content-ification' affect different media?"
25:38 "Isn't the content model the same as cable TV?"
27:52 "I enjoy the title cards."
32:17 "On Spotify, paying residuals has not saved the platform from contentification. Would residuals work for Netflix?"
36:58 "How do you feel about the term 'Media'?"
38:31 "How does Nebula work on the back-end?"
44:02 "Are you bothered by the TMDb submission rules?"
46:56 "Has you relationship with the word 'content' changed over time?"
48:22 "What is the reason behind the costume changes?"
52:45 "Why did the hair video change from a Tier List to a straight rank?"
53:42 "You should rank every Tom Cruise run."
55:07 "'Content' is used to emphasize the money-making potential of a work."
56:29 "'Content' terms have also entered into the news media."
58:22 Wrap-up
thanks
You skipped the great question/great answer at 28:15 about the death of web series.
Apparently I am a minority in Patrick's viewership analytics: male, but loved the Mamma Mia and Little Women episodes.
Absolutely love that Brandon Sanderson watches your videos. He actually teaches at the university I work at (where I am watching this video currently).
He also watches Shadiversity and Overly Sarcastic Productions, so I'm not surprised.
Brandon Sanderson has mentioned a few times in is own podcasts that he watches your videos so seeing this crossover was pretty cool!
With respect to the question on the Distribution Brand vs the Creator, it seems that A24 is actually making some interesting strides in this direction. Insofar as they clearly want to create a known production & distribution brand, and have that be the thing that entices you to see their stuff, but they have also been very deliberate about that brand identity being synonymous with real creative work being given proper creative freedom. And for the moment, it seems to be working. Like, what other production company has such a devoted following that people buy merch *from the producer*? Who buys a Universal tote bag?
well, Universal is probably a bad example there, because you _can_ absolutely buy branded stuff like tote bags, mugs/cups, etc. at Universal parks. (speaking as a Floridian who has been to Universal hundreds of times in her life-part of that is obviously fandom for the parks themselves and people wanting souvenirs, for sure; but Universal parks are still very much selling people on their distinct "Universal grandeur," à la Disney, and you can't divorce the parks from that.) Paramount is certainly a better comparison for your point.
As a ten-percenter, professional visual artist who's been posting art online for decades now, your videos are extremely on point. I've been recommending your channel to friends and colleagues!
I, a member of your unknowable ENBY audience, recently discovered your "content" 😂 (sorry, I couldn't resist), but I have found your videos captivating! The handful of episodes I've watched have been thought provoking, and really engaging. Thank you for your creations and work.
Patrick, as one of the 90%, I share your videos with my (female) best friend, my daughter, my sisters, and my mom.
Even though I then have to endure my mother telling me that I should make videos like yours.
I shouldn't. I can't.
Why you can't?
@JSSMVCJR2.1
Several reasons, but the most insurmountable reason is that I lack Patrick's passion or drive or what have you for all the various aspects that go into a single project at this level, let alone several in a month.
I am (and this is a mixed blessing) a talker, and I might take a stab at an audio only podcast... if I can justify putting another middle-aged male out there talking about shit he likes. 😀
"Well, *Patrick's* videos get views and replies from Brandon Sanderson... *His* mother must be proud...."
This is the disembodied mom voice I heard while reading your comment. Had to share.
10 percenter here: Much of this video I was staring nervously at the glass behind Patrick as he gestured in the inimitable Patrick way.
Awesome Sanderson commented! He's really invested in this issue and has used his unique position to as much as possible counteract Amazon's nasty Audible near-monopoly.
Was literally watching on Nebula and wanted to comment on webseries, specifically in the English space.
While it's true that the industry has geared the algorithm towards easily quantifiable casual-short-form video, there is clearly an appitite for it based on trends in Asia and in the more enthusiast TH-cam communities. There are some interesting projects in the animation space like Lackadaisies, Helluva Boss and Murder Drones that are leveraging the episodic, serialized format but there's also plenty of Horror and ARGs that play with and between mediums to tell their own stories, often with audience participation. There's also some super long form, improve stuff like Critical Role/RPGs and SMP games where people enjoy watching stories come to life over hundreds of hours. Hell, I'd even consider the PHW streamatic universe a form of web series and I sometimes see that itch in other TH-camrs to tell a larger narratives.
You're right that webseries, as internet TV, was overrun by Netflix but I do think the idea evolved to better use the medium.
3:10 what a great question from Mr. Sanderson!
You could get the "staff picks" feature by building your own service. Imagine a social media platform where you can ONLY share links to videos, films, books, etc. with a blurb. Actually, there is the social media network title - blurb. Then individual critics have power (rather than just their "platform" - rotten tomatoes. People could follow the curator (name for users on this platform) whose tastes match theirs, so "staff picks" reflect your taste and the platform isn't playing favorites.
Made me laugh. I say that as an older female who falls outside your demographic.
Not sure if you’ll end up seeing this, but to your point around 8:20 or so:
I’m a habitual TH-cam enjoyer who has a catalog of great videos I love to go back to and share with others. Your Plot Holes, Needle Drops, and and recent Wes Anderson AI filmmaking videos consistently rank highly among them, so thank you!
Patrick, the reason people are using the lingo and learning these Hollywood names is because artists like you make learning about it fun!
Hey thanks for tackling my gender statistic question, even though you didn't know either! It's super interesting, I really hope someone is able to look into it deeper and give us a more thorough answer. We already know the stats are sub-par, but stats are so useless when you don't have all the information that created them
As a part of your 90% male audience, I am relatively new to the channel. Enjoying it so far!
"Intellectual property" is a legal term that's become corporate jargon. It means something very specific in the law. And as an IP lawyer, it's gross and strange to hear corporate executives (let alone random people on the internet) refer to "IP" in vague and incorrect ways.
This worship of content is surely just a reflection of the new idea that an area or institution is great merely because of the diversity of the people who populate it.
There is an old cockney tailor’s saying that describes the attitude of those who see films or books as content: never mind the quality, feel the width.
43:15 Asking a question about a question for clarification.
You said here that Nebula doesn't provide you with view count.
So how do you know if a particular video is doing well?
How does the earnings work in Nebula from the side of a creator like you?
The whole thing around Tarantino ( and14:40) reminds me of a great Stephen Jay Gould quote - “I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.”. And i'll take any opportunity to share it!
That comics comment hit hard. It's so difficult to talk big name name comic creators let alone the smaller ones.The comics fandom is already small and it's even more difficult to meet some who would have a minimal understanding of the following sentences.
Frank D'Armata has improved as colorist so much compared to his mid 2000s work. Clayton Cowles seems like he's have fun and doing his best work on Adventureman. Brian Level and Jay Leisten are a dynamite team together.
I haven't been reading comics as much lately so I can't speak to everyone you mentioned here (though I do recognize their names), but I will say that Clayton Cowles is an incredible letterer. especially love his work on DIE. personally, my favorite letterer is Aditya Bidikar, who is stunning on Isola, Blue in Green, and These Savage Shores.
I agree that writers, actors etc need better compensation. I worry though that if streaming focuses to much on residuals as a way of providing that compensation we'll just see providers drop shows and movies faster to stop paying so much in risiduals. I don't know what the solution to that problem is though.
Made myself laugh thinking “maybe we can replace ‘content’ with ‘meat,’ as in ‘the meat of the video.’” Then I realized creators can start saying “watch my meat!”
Also, you could probably mount the bat cave directly on the wall too. It would stick out more and would require jerry-rigging the mount yourself, but as long as the back of it is flat, it could work.
The Shanghai river run in Mission 3 is the best Tom Cruise run.
Definitely think Eddie Murphy and his 80s rise, 90s fall and various highs and lows afterwards needs the PW treatment
The Lego existential crisis was real
Can you just get a couple of appropriate shelf brackets for the Lego Bat Cave an plunk it on a wall sitting on them?
So 5 minutes in and I'm hearing talking points that have been repeated ad nauseum for a decade.
I am a member of your 10% female audience.✌🏻
I have a similar issue related to your thoughts on how TH-cam erases the individual creators while promoting the site as a library of TH-cam content. I sell my art on Etsy. The site diminishes the presence of individual sellers by making our shop names tiny and difficult to find. They market and display items like Amazon, giving the impression that people are buying from Etsy as an entity rather than a collection of individual artisans.
Talks about IP come up frequently on the forums because counterfeit items are a rampant issue there. The general public is very uninformed about the difference between creating personal fan art and trying to profit from someone else’s IP. While the theft is usually of pop culture stuff, if an individual has one of their own unique creations find popularity on the platform the copycats start ripping them off quick
You can turn the Lego batcave into a lamp and put it on the floor maybe, it will be kinda cute... btw the video about content was a really great content 😅 (cringe comment done)
Hello Patrick! It's your 10% female audience here! Gotta say bizarre to see a Brandon Sanderson comment here considering I paused my reread of Way of Kings to watch this.
That’s a great Ethan Hunt T-shirt
What about choosing creators to recommend your youtube content for you? Sort of 'make your own algorithm' thing.
as a female channel member, I share the same vitriol for the word content for the same reasons, so I was overjoyed when I watched that as my first video. I stayed for RRR, because its the greatest movie ever made.
Classic LEGO problem...buy it, build it, no space for it. I wish I was as strict as you with your purchasing habits.
Isn’t TH-cam income (from views not sponsorships) essentially residuals?
On the whole audience gender ratio thing, I can’t help but wonder if the ratios are skewed by wether or not men are more likely to be signed into youtube.
it's my guy! what's up my guy!
7:45 violence is ok but sex isn't because sex leads to violence, not the other way around.
I recently found your main channel (this is the first patrick replies video ive watched) so 1 lady closer to your 20% goal
How would a Netflix type subscription service even work? I mean, how are the authors compensated?
Authors on Kindle Unlimited (basically book Netflix) are compensated by pages read. There's a big pot of money monthly, and if you have 5% of the pages read that month, you get 5% of that pot.
But, as Sanderson discussed, if you're around KU readers books in that space often treated pretty much like churned through bits of content to binge and forget rather than specifically selected works you sit with.
No judgment to KU readers, but the model does set it up that these books are valued as ideviudal works un to themselves
I need a patrick replies 'patrick replies' to know where you got this t-shirt
If patrick made this video in 2019, it would have a very different vibe given what has happened to the industry over the past 3 years. Also being fixated on silly words instead of deeper meanings was more of a 2017 era video essay style critique. The space was a little more film bro and less nuanced then
As far as the word "franchise" is concerned, I've always hated it for its flattening of storytelling and art into a product to be distributed (Dunkin Donuts is a franchise. The Godfather is not) but I can see how it would apply to multimedia like Star Wars. Movies, games, shows, books, comics, etc. With something so huge, it is a licensable property that a creator can basically get in on and contribute to, not unlike franchising a fast food joint. It's YOUR McDonald's. But it's still a McDonald's.
Something that made me gag a while back was somebody talking about a single movie as a franchise. A single, solitary stand alone movie, with discussions of a potential sequel many years later. Groundhog Day or something like that. "Are they going to continue the franchise?" What franchise? It's one movie. What the hell are you talking about, stop talking like a soulless executive who wants another pair yachts.
hi. i’m non-binary (gender-fluid, agenderflux, 2 spirt if Indé have that) and the 2 non-binary people i play video games with also watch your videos. (one got me into your work)
pretty sure it defaults everything that isn’t “woman” to male cuz that’s how the internet tends to do shit unfortunately (also on my part the my account predates me coming out by a noticeable amount)
My mom watches your videos with me if that counts
TH-cam Criterion Collection anyone?
What? How?
The next Tarantino will figure it out regardless of financial situation
Regarding your gender analytics. I am a guy whose YT profile is a woman in her 70s ... I found that trick to decrease the amount of advertising I was getting. Although it is less efficient nowadays :(
Just to say that your actual female audience might lower than what it actually is.
But the T-shirt...
I was going to say ... I want that t-shirt
Need to talk to your boys at Wendover about their cringey use of “content.”
10:50 Patrick admits sympathy for racism.
17 hours? I'm like late to a party, while arriving before anyone else.
Sanderson has mentioned both you and Lindsay Ellis on his and Dan Wells podcast a few times.
The dreaded C word,
Content.
If your dad's name is actually Hank, then the fact that he didn't name you Hank Willems Jr. is a missed opportunity.
It takes two to name a child
@@HerfinnurNope. It’s the father’s choice.
@@Stumme-40203 what, in Saudi Arabia?
I took a break from listening to my Brandon Sanderson audiobook so I can watch a TH-cam video before I read a different Brandon Sanderson book on my kindle in bed and then the video is immediately responding to a question from Brandon Sanderson. This must be a sign or something…
"All hail Brando-Sando."
For the Tom Cruise running video you should rank movies and for every movie create a composite weighted score based on quantity (how many runs and how long are they?), quality (how good is the running?) and thirdly a heuristic component (some call this gut feeling, but I'd rather say it's -informed- gut feeling - you're the expert, and this is how to make that count in the ranking).
/ Your friendly (not necessarily neighborhood) statistician
Games Workshop is kind of falling into that "platform over creator" thing as well where they are scared of their writers and painters becoming internet famous (or infamous) and they've instituted a "no face" rule on videos and a "no name" policy on rule books and supplements.
I was a GW player back from 97 - 02, when it was very much a creator-driven thing ... sounds like it has become bland and intolerable at this point
25:00. Are they though? Because there are prolific authors who have been long rumored to have ghost writers like James Patterson. Also, there will often be a series that publishers want to continue after an author's death, so they just get new people to write and will call it so and so's character in title by living author. Some examples of this would be Robert Ludlum and Ian Fleming.
I think his point still stands. The books are still being sold based on author name recognition. Therefore promoting at least the author's name is still important.
I think you briefly mentioned something like this in the actual video, but I could totally believe that "content" was a term that engineering came up with internally that marketing then latched onto and made external.
In the programming world we like to label things as generically as possible (for example, if you make a website for a repair shop that services cars, motorcycles, boats, etc, in the code you'd refer to those as "vehicles", since all cars are vehicles, but not the other way around).
I can imagine the Netflix source code using the term "content" as the generic term for movie, show, game, etc, and then someone higher up thought that sounded like a good term to brand everything with.
PS Hi from Saratoga!
I would say that the author brand name value in publishing is slowly being edged into series brand value, with more authors in genre fiction being forced into signing deals not just for trilogies, but long-running series. We're also seeing more secondary authors being brought in to accelerate popular franchises.
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Oh nice, I appeared on a Replies episode! Neat! 😊
Thank you for responding to my question, and I agree! I think something like a movie or tv show has far more people involved in its creation than something like a book or a music piece.
Also, its alright! For future reference, its pronounced ("EE-kay" - Ike, "Oh-ker-uh-KAY" - Okereke).
I feel a little late to the comment party but I work in Tech, and the first time I had a manager refer to me as a "resource" really made my skin crawl in the same way you feel about your work being labelled "content". Fuck the Execs!
Wooo, 10% club! 🎉
I have nebula but I'm not really a fan of the lack of comments
It is a platform meant for the hard-core fans of these type of creators
The ability to have comments should be there and it could be an option to turn it off as the creator
Agreed.
Yeah I've got nebula to support those guys but I always watch on youtube when I can...plus there's no TV app.
sorry but no. why would comments make it better? do you want there to be comments on netflix or hulu as well? comments sections have only ever made things worse
@@patrickwillemspresents1220 You're not wrong, but I feel like Nebula's comment section would potentially be better as it's not 100% public and is behind a paywall unlike TH-cam.
@@patrickwillemspresents1220 Yo ur cool. Counterpoint, I would love comments on netflix actually. Most of the torrents i watch have comments, and mcu movies for example are way more fun with them
sorry to say I must be throwing off your metrics, I watch all your videos with two other women, but we always use my account/browser to watch youtube on
Wait, so Nebula doesn’t have view counts, even for the authors of the videos? How does it distribute its earnings, then? I thought it distributed them based on watch time.
I'm nonbinary, so I guess that means there are at least two of us out here watching these videos
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1. "Video Essay" is a good name for these things.
2. Might be interesting to do a collaboration essay with a woman YTer who focuses on movies. Be Kind Rewind comes to mind. I'm reminded of the collab that Johnny Harris did with his former Vox colleague Cleo Abrams, covering different sides of the nuclear energy debate.
12:41 Thanks for responding to my comment! 😅 I didn’t expect to be featured in a Patrick Replies video! For more context, when I was visiting the Middle East, Happy Meal boxes had those pamphlets for next month’s toys, but I’m not sure about the US.
Once Nebula is taken over by a giant corp (which eventually it will be and which I am sure is lucrative for those involved), everything will become "Content".
I'll admit that I was partly distracted by Patrick's shirt and my confusion as to why it didn't say "The Hair-as Tour", in honour of Ethan Hunt's various hairstyles.
I find the point around 25:30 a bit odd to me because...it feels like directors, writers, etc. have become *more important* than they were a couple decades ago. Now, this could obviously be my own shifting observances based on age and community, etc., but I feel like in the 90s especially, very few movies were talked about from the view of "it's directed by ____" or "____ wrote it" (Tarantino and Kevin Smith are definitely the best counter-arguments I've got from the mid to late 90s, with maybe Guy Ritchie later, but even into the early 00s most people I knew spoke of them more from the genre or the concept, not the person behind the lens or the page) at least by "ordinary people" who aren't "film nerds". Sure, there were movies you'd know were Spielberg's, but most talk I'd hear focused on the movie rather than the man. Nowadays, there seems to be a lot more scrutiny about this director (in particular) or even writer, especially with genre films (sorry, superheroes, you still fall into that category), something that feels like it grew mainly in the last 15 years (the first real big critical response I remember on that front was for Brett Ratner helming X-Men 3 in 2006). Again, that might just be a shift in what I pay attention to and what I'm exposed to, or how big "genre films" really are nowadays, but the point still feels odd to me. I guess part of it is how so many films I remember from the 80s and 90s felt like they were assembled by...whomever. Joe Johnston's filmography in particular feels very much that way, having one of the weirdest variances I can think of (Honey, I Shrunk the Kids to The Rocketeer to Jumanji to October Sky to Jurassic Park III to Hidalgo The Wolfman to Captain America: The First Avenger is just wild). I guess what I'm saying is that studios are just trying to regain that focus they used to have for decades?
Brandon Sanderson has actually talked about your show on his podcast a few times now!
I am the “Mom” completely out of your demographic. You popped up on my TH-cam feed about 2 months ago and I’ve been enjoying you’re videos since. 😊 May more “moms” be exposed to your brand of white guy in glasses talking about movies.
The notion of content reminded me of the importance of quality and uniqueness in movies, which reminded me of the graphic artist Annie Atkins because I just watched a video about her. She's done a lot of work for Wes Anderson, and pronounces it "Wez." Because it's all connected.
In the spirit of Patrick's idea of recommending videos, it'd be great to get some recommendations going for great TH-cam videos. Here's one of my favourites, from Quality Culture, about Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli: th-cam.com/video/UG6XzB_J3IA/w-d-xo.html
Correction. Tarantino didn't use the residuals from Golden Girls to fund any of his movies.
It helped him earn some money tough while he still worked a minimum wage job for years.
He then sold the script for True Romance for about 30 000 dollars which he still didn't use to help fund his first film but would have if it had gotten to that.
In the end Resevoir Dogs was funded in the normal way. It cost 1.5 Million dollars.
To claim that this was funded by the Golden Girls money is simply incorrect.
TH-cam users are overwhelmingly male so those statistics aren't strange at all. You have to start doing make-up tutorials to get those female numbers up.
afaik youtube's user gender statistics are 80/20 in general, so nothing wrong with your channel ;) great stuff!
90% of people need to watch film criticism from someone who looks roughly like them. idk why. but that's that.
To answer Brandon Sanderson‘s concern, services like PlayStation plus and even Audible come with a discount for books. Like a limited time price where you get an additional discount on something that’s already discounted. If Kendall unlimited or Amazon prime came with a respective e-book or book or movie or TV show discount, would that feed more income to those industries at large?
I'm a new fan and a chick! When I saw what you said, I realized I actually have no idea what my female friends watch on TH-cam. Movies, books, TV yes, but I've never asked them what do they watch on TH-cam. I'm curious now and will find out. Btw I have forgiven you for the Plot Holes video so... you're welcome.
Preface: haven’t seen the original Content video. It won’t come up on your channel. If it’s on a different channel I’ll have to search for it, this video just happened to come up on my timeline.
I’m glad the “what about the word media” question came up because that at least answers a question I’ve had about the arguments about the word “content.” But… I’m sorry I just don’t get it. Maybe it’s something you have to be in the actual industry to understand? And I’m definitely not a professional artist? But every time it comes up, the word “content” is treated like an axiomatically negative word and nobody can explain to me why. They always just repeat that it’s bad, tell me I have views on the arts that I don’t have, and sometimes things get weirdly gatekeepy (including an instance of it being asserted that the word content “lets people who make garbage think they make art.”) I even ask for an alternative for instances where the word “content” feels contextually appropriate and am repeatedly ignored. Except for one person saying “entertainment” which doesn’t work and now this video saying “media,” which does work. But it feels lateral. Like, I work at a library. We have materials. Neutral word, could refer to all kinds of things we carry. A video store has inventory. A tv channel has programming. Technically ALL of those things have “media.” A source for media has an all-encompassing word to use for the media it has to offer. “Content” seemed like a perfectly cromulent word for what streaming services have, and I genuinely don’t get why the word is prima fascia rude. If it’s the way execs are using it, then would replacing it with another word really help? Again, if it’s just something you have to be in the industry itself to understand then I’ll relent. It’s a frustrating prospect because I prefer to understand something rather than not, but I don’t have to understand everything. And it’s not like I use the word myself, unless it’s the content of a movie or show or something, and that’s pretty rare wording anyway.
HEEEY!!
I do have some REALLY COOL AND COZY shelf space over here in Brazil... and I am willing to pay for shipping...
just sayin...
Commenting on a comment video where does it end? I will say it was TH-cam’s recommendation engine that suggested you conte…er.. video to me and I love your videos and subscribed after watching the first one recommended to me. Thanks TH-cam! Oh yea, thanks to you too Patrick!
I'm 25 minutes in and all the comments are generally in agreement with your general sentiment. It's a bit disappointing as it's turning into an echo chamber. Please try to pick comments which disagree with your take and provide your counter arguments, it would be more intellectually stimulating!
16:17 I don't know, Jack Warner, Louis B. Mayer, David O. Selznick, Darryl F. Zanuck, and of course Walt Disney were all pretty famous back in the day
@15:30 Thank you! I can't stand the term "IP," especially in reference to video games. When Toyota releases a new car model, no one calls it a new "IP," even though technically it is.
If you were the only one who had an issue with mislabeling art as "content", nobody would have watched. It has clearly already rankled a substantial percentage of your audience. Not alone but not original either. I thought the video was good.
Wow, I'm tripping out pretty hard right now because I predicted you would say Friday The 13th as you were thinking of an example to compare Star Wars to. 🤯
18:10 whoa. You picked my comment. This is trippy. Also. Zane-ya ... it's tricky, good try 😊😊
I bet most of youtube watchers are male. Just out of my friends the guys spend of of their screen time on youtube most of the girls are on instagram.
I am part of the 10% of the females watching your videos, and I find them very enjoyable.
I found myself waiting for a zoom into your aperol spritz each time you mentioned your audience is only 10% women : )
7:43 The closest thing I can think of, is TikTok using AI to curate content like a person would.
Patrick been lifting?