Thanks for the video. I just received my FLIR camera and can't wait to use it. This can not only help me know what my own bees are up to, but I plan on using it to help locate bees for cut-outs too.
HiYa Fred, You are a gentleman and a scholar m'man, I love your work. Two Questions from here in Sydney. 1. How's that C2 camera going and any further updates, insights or uses? 2. I'm currently making up some slatted racks for my hives (2 flow & 2 regular). Have you any thermal data related to slatted rack use? Happy Trails
The Flir C2 still performs fantastically and is useful. The slatted racks haven't offered any profound advantages, but do seem to provide some valuable space and are what I prefer when doing OAV treatments as they create a meaningful barrier between hot irons and the bottom of the frames. They have demonstrated a slight benefit in regards to bearding on hot summer days.
Another great video. Images and audio are simply enjoyable to watch. You have a C2. Not a C3. Any particular reason? Cost Features? Also, have you ever tried the FLIR ONE IOS Thermal Imaging Camera for iPhone 7 - that little camera that attaches to the bottom of an iPhone. Any comments on the differences between that and the stand-alone C2?
Hi Firescam2, thanks so much! To answer your questions, I selected the C2 because I didn't want the wii fi that the C3 offers and other than that feature, they are identical. I'm not at all interested in teh Flir One as I don't own a cell phone :) I know I know.. unbelievable, but if I had a cell phone I wouldn't get anything done and I need to be away from it all. The self contained C2 was the best all-in-one for my purposes. I did contact Flir to see if they were coming out with a more capable version of the C2 in the future, primaily in higher resolution. The camera captures are tiny, so not really usable in my opinion... BUT, as a source of on-the-spot information regarding bees, it's a fantastic tool and I'll be buying whatever they come up with next that enhances what it already does.
Nice info and appreciate the knowledge. Original Artworkks said they wanted to start a bee farm(that's me). You asked for me to video what I was doing for youtube so here ya go. Someone in my family heard I had wanted to do hives and her husband passed away. He kept hives and retired doing it. Anyway she is too old to continue and the hives became empty so she asked if I wanted them. So I have a start but will need bees in the spring. Who in your opinion should I deal with when buying my bees?
I always recommend checking in with local beekeepers to see what results they are getting with the lines they work with. Not everything works well everywhere when it comes to bee genetics. I personally use survivor line bees and WeaverBees are producing the queens that I choose. But that's my personal preference. If you can get a swarm two, you'll probably have some locally adapted lines there.
Finding a swarm may be a possibility. Since I am surrounded by about ten thousand acres of heavily wooded land. Just have to find a wild swarm. Listen for the hum right? maybe I will get lucky and find some Italian bees. Hope they have pasta.
Daniel Weston Where I am everywhere is woods. Very little farmland. Finding a wild colony might take time. I will probably order box bees in the spring.
Mate, you need to paint your hives and the roof white (not black) this will reduce the thermal gain and reduce the radiative loss on cold and clear nights. A black hive forces the bees to work hard to cool the hive and expend energy to warm it on cool clear nights. By the way with this high temperature hive do you have any varroa?
@@markkeown9532 Only as it pertains to solar wax melters where I paint all surfaces black, anything yielding over .90 works famously for that. Regarding beehives and the bees ability to regulate interior temperature, even with a "hot-box", is interesting and they manage to thermoregulate the interior even in temps in excess of 100 deg. F. So long as there is water available to the bees. Further studies on that have been done with associates of Thomas Seeley, and they placed hives on obsidian under high heat stress conditions. Since the bees need to maintain 94 to 97 deg. F. over the brood to maintain viability, along with adequate humidity, much of what most keepers "think" is too hot or high, actually is fine for the bees. Since others are doing this better, I no longer research exterior colors, but to collect thermals at the hive entrance with various screens and entrance reducers. Where I reside, only the hottest days result in cooling behavior, most of the venting activity is to dehydrate nectar.
Hi Fred. Another unique and awesome video! I'd like to ask you about hive placement in the hot south. The average summer here is 80s-90s from end of May to end of Sept (87 right now as I type) and humid. Should I place hives in a partially shaded area or full sun? Should they face south?
Hi Trixiegirl88... yes, keep them under an awning or other mid-day shade providing cover. I mostly face all of my landing boards south for winter sun exposure and landing board warming. In your case, that may not be so important. You definitely want them in a high and dry location with plenty of air circulation. Humidity is the challenge. I used to live in Charleston, SC., and I don't miss it :)
Hey Fred, is there any wireless gadgets using thermal imaging, so that we can check the box temperature using our cellphones? whenever and wherever. Like sprinkler it can change the direction using cellphones so that the temperature of multiple boxes can be checked, left to right and up and down that the camera can be shifted to see the several boxes, remotely ~
That sounds pretty advanced! The only system I know of just feed information to your phone and it's called the Brood Minder. You would know when the hive is gaining weight and building up for something.
Love your videos-very thorough and informative! In one of your past videos you gave contact info for the company where you bought algae eating snails for aquariums. I regrettably didn't jot it down. Would you please give that info again? Thanks.
Hi Kay, thank you so much and sure, no problem, those are the Nerite snails and I just got more of those! The company is: Please tell them I sent you :) aquaticarts.com/
Thanks so much for the fast reply. I need to order ASAP as the Placo I have has outgrown the aquarium and he is even trying to clean algae off the little red eared slider turtle! Th.anks again.
I have been watching many of your videos, I don’t understand why they are bearding? What reason? Lastly how can you tell the difference between what is happening in the video and when they swarm to leave the hive? In both instances they gather on the out side?
They beard when conditions on the inside are too hot, or too humid, or as in this case the colony has a surplus of workers with no jobs inside the hive, they are foragers. If they were going to swarm, then the activity levels are much different than simply clustering on the outside. I show those behaviors in many of my swarm interrupted videos :)
I live in Central Valley, California. Temps are ~100 degrees now. I have two Flow hives and just recently put on Flow supers. The girls are taking to them well, but one on my hives (more exposed) is bearding a lot. Is this just due to the extreme temps inside? There appears to be plenty bees working inside between the flow frames.
HI Sandra, it's normal for them to move out and collect on the front of the hive when there is a lot of new nectar being stored inside. Fresh nectar takes up twice as much space as finished honey. By moving the foragers outside, the workers inside can do a better job of dehydrating the nectar down. The bees themselves contribute to high humidity inside the hive - it's just the norm. :) I've started putting sun visors on the fronts of my hives and it is working out swimmingly and really lowers the lower brood box temps and gives the bees a shaded place to collect when they need to. th-cam.com/video/SFYAneFtAIk/w-d-xo.html they are very easy to make :)
Those outside bees that are quite warm, are they generating heat via wing beating or something? Or are they moving back and forth from inside and outside the hive to maintain that heat?
That's a great question! They generate heat by vibrating/working the muscles right where their wings are attached, it's different from fanning. Best comparison would be when human shivers, this generates heat through their thorax. There are definitely some bees that do this better than others, you can also find them parked head first in brood frames and radiating heat out to the adjacent pupae cells. It's fascinating.
Frederick Dunn Thanks Frederick. Its very interesting when you say some bees are better than others at this. It may be some of the less obvious differences between workers and that some may be specialised at generating heat or at least have some genetic talent for it. The FLIR camera really brings extras to the information that you give. Kym
Thanks for the video. I just received my FLIR camera and can't wait to use it. This can not only help me know what my own bees are up to, but I plan on using it to help locate bees for cut-outs too.
It's a great tool for sure! Thanks for watching. :)
What an awesome camera. The temperature results were different than I was expecting. Looks like that could be a beekeepers best friend! 👍
Definitely a valuable tool, I'm having fun getting thermal images of everything!
Thanks Frederick for another super intelligent video. Always an absolute pleasure to watch.
Thank you so much Michael!
A very complicated insect .......thanks.
You said it Timothy and you're welcome!
HiYa Fred, You are a gentleman and a scholar m'man, I love your work.
Two Questions from here in Sydney.
1. How's that C2 camera going and any further updates, insights or uses?
2. I'm currently making up some slatted racks for my hives (2 flow & 2 regular).
Have you any thermal data related to slatted rack use?
Happy Trails
The Flir C2 still performs fantastically and is useful. The slatted racks haven't offered any profound advantages, but do seem to provide some valuable space and are what I prefer when doing OAV treatments as they create a meaningful barrier between hot irons and the bottom of the frames. They have demonstrated a slight benefit in regards to bearding on hot summer days.
So cool! Bees. ...never a dull moment 🐝🐝🐝
Oh wow! So Awesome!
What region is this! So many juicy bees...
U should get a kick back for that camera commercial 😁💲💱📷📸📷
Indeed I should ;) But they are a big DOD contractor company and probably hard to get their attention. I wouldn't refuse a handout though!
Another great video. Images and audio are simply enjoyable to watch. You have a C2. Not a C3. Any particular reason? Cost Features? Also, have you ever tried the FLIR ONE IOS Thermal Imaging Camera for iPhone 7 - that little camera that attaches to the bottom of an iPhone. Any comments on the differences between that and the stand-alone C2?
Hi Firescam2, thanks so much! To answer your questions, I selected the C2 because I didn't want the wii fi that the C3 offers and other than that feature, they are identical. I'm not at all interested in teh Flir One as I don't own a cell phone :) I know I know.. unbelievable, but if I had a cell phone I wouldn't get anything done and I need to be away from it all. The self contained C2 was the best all-in-one for my purposes. I did contact Flir to see if they were coming out with a more capable version of the C2 in the future, primaily in higher resolution. The camera captures are tiny, so not really usable in my opinion... BUT, as a source of on-the-spot information regarding bees, it's a fantastic tool and I'll be buying whatever they come up with next that enhances what it already does.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Don't own a cellphone!🤤
That's right Gregory, no cell phone at all. I have someone else take all of my calls and I respond to e-mails when I have time :)
Outstanding video. Thanks for sharing this.
You're welcome Rick, thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice info and appreciate the knowledge. Original Artworkks said they wanted to start a bee farm(that's me). You asked for me to video what I was doing for youtube so here ya go. Someone in my family heard I had wanted to do hives and her husband passed away. He kept hives and retired doing it. Anyway she is too old to continue and the hives became empty so she asked if I wanted them. So I have a start but will need bees in the spring. Who in your opinion should I deal with when buying my bees?
I always recommend checking in with local beekeepers to see what results they are getting with the lines they work with. Not everything works well everywhere when it comes to bee genetics. I personally use survivor line bees and WeaverBees are producing the queens that I choose. But that's my personal preference. If you can get a swarm two, you'll probably have some locally adapted lines there.
Finding a swarm may be a possibility. Since I am surrounded by about ten thousand acres of heavily wooded land. Just have to find a wild swarm. Listen for the hum right? maybe I will get lucky and find some Italian bees. Hope they have pasta.
learn to bee line and hunt them down . . .I find feral colonies in the spring and set Bee traps nearby to catch the swarms . .
Daniel Weston Where I am everywhere is woods. Very little farmland. Finding a wild colony might take time. I will probably order box bees in the spring.
Mate, you need to paint your hives and the roof white (not black) this will reduce the thermal gain and reduce the radiative loss on cold and clear nights. A black hive forces the bees to work hard to cool the hive and expend energy to warm it on cool clear nights. By the way with this high temperature hive do you have any varroa?
Hi Mark, if I painted them all white as you direct, they I wouldn't be able to continue meaningful thermal studies. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@@FrederickDunn Are you worried about the emissivity value?
I am interested in what you are doing please send me a note: markaarnpacks@gmail.com
@@markkeown9532 Only as it pertains to solar wax melters where I paint all surfaces black, anything yielding over .90 works famously for that. Regarding beehives and the bees ability to regulate interior temperature, even with a "hot-box", is interesting and they manage to thermoregulate the interior even in temps in excess of 100 deg. F. So long as there is water available to the bees. Further studies on that have been done with associates of Thomas Seeley, and they placed hives on obsidian under high heat stress conditions. Since the bees need to maintain 94 to 97 deg. F. over the brood to maintain viability, along with adequate humidity, much of what most keepers "think" is too hot or high, actually is fine for the bees. Since others are doing this better, I no longer research exterior colors, but to collect thermals at the hive entrance with various screens and entrance reducers. Where I reside, only the hottest days result in cooling behavior, most of the venting activity is to dehydrate nectar.
Hi Fred. Another unique and awesome video! I'd like to ask you about hive placement in the hot south. The average summer here is 80s-90s from end of May to end of Sept (87 right now as I type) and humid. Should I place hives in a partially shaded area or full sun? Should they face south?
Hi Trixiegirl88... yes, keep them under an awning or other mid-day shade providing cover. I mostly face all of my landing boards south for winter sun exposure and landing board warming. In your case, that may not be so important. You definitely want them in a high and dry location with plenty of air circulation. Humidity is the challenge. I used to live in Charleston, SC., and I don't miss it :)
Thanks Fred..I have a spot picked out for them under a big tree. Alabama humidity is definitely going to be a challenge.... and fire ants...lol
You are very welcome Trixiegirl!
Cool 👍🐝🐝🐝🐝 thanks for sharing! 😁
Hi Tara, thank you and you're very welcome!
Hey Fred, is there any wireless gadgets using thermal imaging, so that we can check the box temperature using our cellphones? whenever and wherever. Like sprinkler it can change the direction using cellphones so that the temperature of multiple boxes can be checked, left to right and up and down that the camera can be shifted to see the several boxes, remotely ~
That sounds pretty advanced! The only system I know of just feed information to your phone and it's called the Brood Minder. You would know when the hive is gaining weight and building up for something.
Great video!
Thank you Jeffrey!
Love your videos-very thorough and informative! In one of your past videos you gave contact info for the company where you bought algae eating snails for aquariums. I regrettably didn't jot it down. Would you please give that info again? Thanks.
Hi Kay, thank you so much and sure, no problem, those are the Nerite snails and I just got more of those! The company is: Please tell them I sent you :) aquaticarts.com/
Thanks so much for the fast reply. I need to order ASAP as the Placo I have has outgrown the aquarium and he is even trying to clean algae off the little red eared slider turtle! Th.anks again.
You're welcome Kay :)
I have been watching many of your videos, I don’t understand why they are bearding? What reason? Lastly how can you tell the difference between what is happening in the video and when they swarm to leave the hive? In both instances they gather on the out side?
They beard when conditions on the inside are too hot, or too humid, or as in this case the colony has a surplus of workers with no jobs inside the hive, they are foragers. If they were going to swarm, then the activity levels are much different than simply clustering on the outside. I show those behaviors in many of my swarm interrupted videos :)
I live in Central Valley, California. Temps are ~100 degrees now. I have two Flow hives and just recently put on Flow supers. The girls are taking to them well, but one on my hives (more exposed) is bearding a lot. Is this just due to the extreme temps inside? There appears to be plenty bees working inside between the flow frames.
HI Sandra, it's normal for them to move out and collect on the front of the hive when there is a lot of new nectar being stored inside. Fresh nectar takes up twice as much space as finished honey. By moving the foragers outside, the workers inside can do a better job of dehydrating the nectar down. The bees themselves contribute to high humidity inside the hive - it's just the norm. :) I've started putting sun visors on the fronts of my hives and it is working out swimmingly and really lowers the lower brood box temps and gives the bees a shaded place to collect when they need to. th-cam.com/video/SFYAneFtAIk/w-d-xo.html they are very easy to make :)
Frederick Dunn Thanks! I’ve placed canopies over them, but I’ll have to check out the visors.
Gods creation in action. Thank Fred! Cathy WV.
You're welcome Cathy :)
The flir d'these
No way!
What species of bees do you have? Mine would swarm if they were that packet.
Weaver Bees.... from the BeeWeaver apiaries in Texas :)
Are you raising their italian or buck fast
Those outside bees that are quite warm, are they generating heat via wing beating or something? Or are they moving back and forth from inside and outside the hive to maintain that heat?
That's a great question! They generate heat by vibrating/working the muscles right where their wings are attached, it's different from fanning. Best comparison would be when human shivers, this generates heat through their thorax. There are definitely some bees that do this better than others, you can also find them parked head first in brood frames and radiating heat out to the adjacent pupae cells. It's fascinating.
Frederick Dunn Thanks Frederick. Its very interesting when you say some bees are better than others at this. It may be some of the less obvious differences between workers and that some may be specialised at generating heat or at least have some genetic talent for it. The FLIR camera really brings extras to the information that you give. Kym
Quite surprised that the bees are not like penguins that rotate cold to warm so there is perpetual movement.
They do take turns heating and resting, it's a remarkable survival behavior.
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I'll answer you this once my nephew :) It was great visiting with you today :)