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Sounds like Rampage or another ol' Apple II DOS game whose name I can't remember. Sounds like a great physics engine and concept for 1v1 giant monster fighter games...Ultraman, Power Rangers, Godzilla vs. any-f*ck*ng- thing, Neon Genesis, or Attack on Titan... Could even be used as an end game mechanic for trash like God-of-f*ck*ng-War so long as everyone can safely admit in America and the West it's an over glorified mini-game without facing extradition charges with punitive torture. One of Sir Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw"s better reviews of late!
This video gave me so much nostalgia, the last time Yatzhee has been so pathetically proud about of something he did in a game that he felt the urge to brag it on video was in his XCOM review in 2012.
Im oddly impressed that you remember that. Mostly because I've rewatched a lot of his stuff and only remember stuff he hates completely or games he's wrong about.... Typing this makes me realize that says more about me 😅
About the tensile strength bit, the developer originally coded it in and made it so a house could collapse under its own weight. It was removed for gameplay reasons, as it was hard to gauge when you'd done too much damage to something, and a lot of stuff would break before you meant it to. Given how timing your destruction is so important to the gameplay, it sorta makes sense.
I feel like Teardown is one of those creative games that should get nominated for game of the year alongside 5 games that cost millions to make. Then loose because it didn't have pretty graphics that justify a 3090, 22 minute long cutscenes, a child you have to escort the whole fucking time, or Norman Reedus.
This game is a bit like Minecraft. Its graphics aren't good, but the scope and scale of what you can do is impressive and wouldn't be able to run on a modern computer if it had modern graphics. In Minecraft it's the size of the world that you can mine and rearrange with Teardown it's the destruction.
@@FatherTime89 its graphics are good though. it does have modern graphics. this game is fully raytraced. like, 100%. like literally everything you see is a result of raytracing. it's not just reflections, or shadows, it's everything. the voxel resolution is a limitation of physics processing speed. graphics are irrelevant. teardown is one of the most technically impressive games-that-are-actually-decent-games-and-not-just-tech-demos of the last few years, at least. the level of physics object simulation alongside non-accelerated full real time ray tracing - on OPENGL, on Windows, on average desktop hardware! - is nothing to sneeze at.
0:33 the celestial bodies don't act on the water itself, but in The Outer Wilds, you and other physics bodies on any given planet are affected by the gravity of the other planets on the solar system, so if you jump on, say, the starting planet, you'll see yourself be pulled ever so slightly in the direction of the Moon.
Honestly, didn’t we already do this with red faction guerrilla, or metal gear rising? I think those games still haven’t been topped in terms of destructible environments (and enemies in the ladders case)
I, too, also find enjoyment making neat little excel spreadsheets that would be immensely useful were one to actually follow them. Like hell is that sucker gonna be me, though.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the robots. These were sick af.And on the driving mission you can move the checkpoints to make it easier to drive round the track.
I think I remember a TH-camr played this and he just had so much fun approaching it from the child-like perspective of "Let's just break things and not care about cleaning up!"
Oh how I enjoy these videos, from the first time my equality clinical teenage friend showed me your channel to this very day years on. Nuggets of pure gold.
My biggest problem with physics is that I have never played a game were objects have real world mass. Example, I knock over an oil can and just like in real lite when I hit it with my pinky toe thw can flys halfway across the map. Give things mass not just physics.
"there isn't a game where the water level is affected by the gravity of a passing large satellite." Yahtzee clearly hasn't played Outer Wilds, which genuinely has the most insanely accurate physics engine I've ever seen in a game.
I lost interest in this game very early on. I want to methodically smash stuff, and on the very first heist mission, I set an alarm off and a minute later was booted out of that stage, blue balled from only having been able to smash my way towards objective 1, let alone plan how I'd get to the other 2 and escape in one minute.
So, you're saying the game encourages creativity less the further you get? Obviously, you haven't tried the Metal Gear box strategy to remain undetected by robots in the second chapter.
and here I was trying to do it "legit" like some kind of asshole when I could have done this from the start. I feel like I should have known I could do that.
Hahahaha, that's great, I never would of thought of that, that's why I love this game, it's always so interesting to see other people's completely different solutions to each level
I feel like this definitely could've been telegraphed more clearly, like if there was a dynamic circle drawn on the ground around the gate. For me it wasn't obvious that the whole structure wasn't the gate but rather just the sign portion of it. I knew there had to be some way to do this because the best times aren't remotely physically possible without "cheating" but I had no idea how to get there.
Spoilers about the car race Yahtzee talked about The car race is part of a grudge match. The idea is some guy hates a rich guy, so he hires you to beat the rich guys private track record, with an optional objective to do it in a frankly impossible amount of time. But the trick is that the race checkpoints are proximity triggered, and you can break them down and move them closer together to reduce the "Track size" to half. So there is a -little- lateral thinking to be had.
@@amishrambo4096 You have to be careful while you do it, because if you destroy too much a wire will snap and break the race entirely, but as long as they all stay intact the checkpoints don't actually care where they are. Mind you moving them is a huge pain.
@@amishrambo4096 yep yep. The first checkout can be shot down and dragged over to the start allowing you to turn around right away onto the grass. Then the other two can be piled next to each other on the same road heading to the goal. Good times.
@@YukoValis yep that’s exactly what i did the other day when i noticed the gates are merely proximity based and only on the sign part connected to the power line
"Baptize heretic babies in time" is an actual thing from an actual game. "Darklands", a sandbox-y combat heavy RPG from the olden days, had occasional black masses you could sneak into and sabotage by doing things like... secretly baptizing babies before they got sacrificed / cooked.
The only way that would be cool is if killing the baptised baby drew down avenging angels or if the demonic entities got offended and wiped the cultists out... "Dread Lord Mezenamoth, we sacrifice this life to you." "Ahh boss... Is there supposed to be a 12ft Angel outside with a fiery greatsword?
@@mattkennedy9308 Funnily enough, this is exactly a switcheroo you can pull in Baldur's Gate II with dragon eggs for a demon. Twice, since you can double switcheroo in order to make the demon avenge two bad sacrifices at once.
On "the water level in the ocean being affected by the gravitational pull of a large orbiting sattelite": Don't worry, I'm sure the bed sheet deformation team of Star Citizen is going to tackle that next.
Well, they didn't do fluids, but Outer Wilds did do "the moon pulls on solid objects and moves them around a bit." Problem is, the only place you can notice this is in the tutorial level, and even there they had to put a sign next to it saying "no, really, we did this with the physics engine, it's not scripted at all!" (But, on the other hand, they also didn't hard-code any of the planetary orbits, so they've got that going for them, I suppose.)
In my opinion this is one of those games that strives with mods and community creations. I've had crazy fun destroying AT-ATs with modded physics by pulling them down with a rope and watching them collapse. Fair warning some maps can kill your computer.
I loved this game and played in when they had content finished the campaign mode, I got very absorbed into completing all the objectives even if it was incredibly difficult and I sunk an hour+ into the level, but the tropical island section really slowed me down as it takes all your toys away for just a bit to long for my liking, like I don't mind that section in games where they take you back to basics for a bit but I just found it tedious have to re-find all my tools again every level for a good 5+ levels
Agreed, the slow difficulty ramp is expected, but to then have to maintain that ramp but takeaway all the rewards gained is annoying. It's only after that omce you get your tools back you realise how easier the levels get when you can level the city block between you and the objective. Except that one with the lasers and the robots. Fuck that mission. Took me way too long
Yeah those jungle levels would of been fine if you had all your equipment, it was just a slog to find all the equipment on the map every time you wanted to play. The idea of limiting your options and using what you can find was a cool idea but they could of limited you to carrying x amount of things for those missions so you didn't need to hunt
what killed those levels for me was actually the fact that you can find small caches of tools throughout the map behind locked doors and such. I just started obsessively trying to find and acquire them all so that I'd have all my babies with me before I started the actual mission
For the record, Outer Wilds I think actually does have water effected by the pull of moons and other planets. The reason they made it a 22-minute time loop was to avoid the universe spinning out of control as time progressed. Everything was properly simulated for gravitational pull, even the player's own weight, their ship, and a metal ball on the floor.
I've been meaning to pick it up for the longest time. That sounds amazing! Now wait until someone with the tools breaks the loop and watches the chaos unfold before uploading it to YT.
Not water, that's all your normal 3d model of a planet fair, but the museum makes a point of showing you the orbs on a flat table being pulled around by the tidal gravity from the moon.
@@Tat011 the planets aren't on-rails, their orbit is simulated and small errors can grow over time. Try starting a new game and just walk away for like an hour or two before leaving the museum.
@@racercowan thats just cuz the game isn't designed to run for very long, it has nothing to do with physics. i mean if it did the interloper would immediately start messing everything up and when it impacts the sun it would tranfer its mass and velocity to it messing things up further but neither happens. an ez to prove example of an object that doesn't do physics is the probe cannon, you can try to deorbit the probe cannon's pieces but regardless of how hard you try they won't move even an inch.
0:40 While there is not game where the gravity of the moon affects the water, in Outer Wilds the gravity of all objects influence each other. Like the Sun always pulls on you, when you are out in space for example. There even is an exhibit in the museum in the game about that
Teardown is very much "games as a toy" and I'm fine with that, the joy is in fiddling with things for me and going to the mods to find weird shit to break in strange ways is always a treat.
Can you imagine if they made a sequel who's only big improvement is "You know that 'Tensile Strength' thing? Yeah, we simulate that now." and how great a sequel that would be!?
Good choice, sir. Do a few speedrunner heists, then unwind by going into sandbox mode and smashing all the yuppie monuments to consumerism. Shame they hadn't figured out the "why does the entire top half remain balanced on a single sliver of glass."
If I recall correctly the dev said to do the math for that would make the game too slow, so they cut it out to make the experience better, but I'm just an internet person
@@thetrcg I heard there was a mod that brought back structural integrity. Think I saw it in a 2kliksphillip video. It does make the vehicles instantly fall apart though.
@@thetrcg not just performance, they wanted destruction to be predictable. it was an intentional choice for buildings to *not* fall until all their connections were broken, as part of the puzzle speedrun game design.
@@thetrcg Just do it the same way as Valheim where different materials can support different amounts of contiguous material. I.E. a shard of glass isn't enough to hold up a house.
He also never says the words "Yo Mama so [Adjective]", he always includes your mother last in the list with the context, letting the descriptors culminate.
HOLD UP! The car race did need lateral thinking. to get the best time possible you have to use the heavy crane to lift up the checkpoint and MOVE the checkpoint to a different spot. without breaking the power cable for the checkpoint.
The first version of (mostly) destructible environments I enjoyed was the original XCom, before all the reboots. You'd always bring grenades and the bulkiest dude with a rocket launcher to blow the sides of houses down to dig out the grey in the farm house if they got cagey, because losing a character was too dangerous. Stealth your way up to the perfect firing positions, and then... BLOW A BIG HOLE IN THE WALL. .... Well, crap. Wrong house. Proceed to next house where there's screaming....
I got the game on sale. Was about what i expected. Good fun for an afternoon not much beyond that. Not the games fault. It is what it says on the box, and it was worth the 3 bucks or what it was i payed for it.
A game were you can’t aim at enemies for psychological reasons and have to use the environment to overcome them would be an interesting concept to explore.
Just a quick note: Physics are usually done on a cpu*, as far as I'm aware, since physics calculations are hard to parallelize due them being all rather different. That's also probably why it's hard to lean into physics because they are relatively expensive calculations which have a tendency of breaking immersion if they're even slightly off...
"which have a tendency of breaking immersion if they're even slightly off..." - that's not a problem when immersion never existed in the first place, after you see character models clipping into each other, see iron armour stretching or shoot a wall of a building only for it to have no effect, or try to break a glass window / wooden door and it doing nothing. Basically, anything would be an improvement.
"Physics calculations are hard to parallelize" No. Any serious physics like protein folding are mostly done on supercomputers that use many processors. The reason they use cpu instead of gpu is because the gpu is already doing graphics. Doing physics on gpu means they would have to lower the graphics.
1:11 - that's not what "tensile strength" means. Tensile Strength is strength under, well, tension. The depicted problem is 95% about flexure - the bending force of all that weight on one side - and 5% about compression. If the super-thin beam were miraculously dead center it would just be compressive strength. The three things can be quite different for some materials, carbon fiber has tremendous tensile strength but isn't so great with sheer, flexure, or compression. Too bad this isn't Seth Meyers, or I'd have a shot at showing up on Corrections.
I had been following the dev on twitter about a year before release, and it was incredible how quickly he made such an incredibly complex engine work. One week they tweeted about how the planks bend now, and the next a building realistically collapsed as it burned down. The dude is a genious and I can't wait to see what he does next
I think this is a pretty fair review, because it's right that some stuff really works and some really doesn't. I think there's something to be learned from the amount of emergent gameplay that the physics provide. In the mission Yahtz mentioned where you have to get safes out without letting rain touch them, I found out that getting a nice big chunk of wall and sticking it to the top of a safe by nailing it down with planks then carefully dragging it so it wouldn't tip over successfully prevented it from getting rained on. I can't imagine that the devs intended for that, but it's something that would probably work in real life, and I felt very clever to try it in the game. Regarding the tensile strength issue, I believe the Steam workshop for the game has a mod that fixes it and only takes a click to install, but if I remember right it impacts performance pretty harshly. It's an issue for sure, but I can see why they had to skip out on fixing it.
Nobody watches the TV between missions. Before the rain mission there was an "ad" on tv for making yourself a xry compfy and movable home by puting funiture and barn dors on top of your car and secure it with some "ropes". Your way was intended by the developers, but not dragging them by hand, more pit the safe on top of a car and the garage door above it. That mission took me an hour to 100% it with all the preperations.
00:35 you're wrong - Outer Wilds' entire universe is subject to a universal physics engine. The gravity of each object affects every other object. Even the character jumping on a planet affects that planet's orbit, by an imperceptible amount, just like in the real universe.
In the car mission you have checkpoints to pass so you get the blowtorch and remove the checkpoints closer so you can do the course in like 10 seconds. I felt like a moron when I realised what I had to do.
0:37 Outer Wilds comes close to this. Jump on Timber Hearth while the Attlerock moon passes overhead and you will actually go a little bit higher than usual. The physics engine in that game was put together insanely well.
That comment in the ending cards about the ultimate game being this with characters in bikinis made me think of the music video for Benny Benassi's "Satisfaction" with all the sexy ladies using various power tools.
0:31 Well, that's a fucking lie. Noita does real world physics better than most games and guess what IT'S FUCKING FANTASY PHSYICS!! And best of all: _it's amazing._ It's a literal game where every pixel is physics simulated, yes, but also: IF YOU GET HIGH ENOUGH ON SHROOMS (which are an actual material in the game with its own alchemical reactions attached to it) YOU CAN TURN ONE MATERIAL INTO ANOTHER TAKING ON ITS PHYSICAL PROPERTIES, PERMANENTLY, AFFECTING THE WHOLE WORLD! This includes changing water to lava, whiskey to acid, coal to gunpowder, turn toxic sludge into gold, or maybe YOU CAN TURN YOUR OWN VOMIT INTO A LIQUID CALLED LIVELY CONCOCTION, WHICH HEALS YOU ON CONTACT! And guess what! It's _almost_ COMPLETELY RANDOM! If someone is actually reading this and is still interested, just know that the game doesn't tell you ANY of this, and you can actually influence the Fungal Shift process by holding a sack (in case it's a powder) or bottle (if liquid) of any material, and there's a 75% chance it will be involved in the reaction! Just don't come crying if all the water in your world turns into polymorphine, a potion that turns you into a sheep, with 1 HP for a limited time :)
It's like Red Faction Guerilla, if the guy who did the destruction mechanics was made chief designer and his first action was to hit everyone else with a sledgehammer to see some organic destructibles.
I loved this game, the best level for me was the theme park where you have to destroy half a dozen rides and attractions. Sounds easy enough when you can just ram a construction vehicle through it all, but the problem was they have fragile neon signs all over so I had to carefully peel them off by using my blowtorch and gently climbing down with them. One of the attractions was had signs that went up and down a huge vertical tower (one of those launch towers), so I grabbed one with the hook of a crane, dragged it down so it couldn't move and carefully attached planks to it, so when I released the crane it wouldn't launch up. This let me detach it from the ride with my blowtorch as I carefully pulled it down. The next sign I figured out it would be quicker to grab it with the crane so it was held down, pull the crane away so when I detatched it, it would launch away, but then attach a cable to the sign that anchored it to the floor. I Used my blowtorch and it immediately launched into the air and hung there like a fly in a spiderweb that let me carefully lower it with the crane and move it before I cut the tower itself to topple it. The game is super good cause there are all kinds of 'how the hell am I supposed to do this?' missions that let you get really creative with your solutions. The trick is that there is a ton of destruction but a lot of it is very prescise, plus the standard gameplay type of 'plan your route between the items you have to grab in 60 seconds' is part minecraft part speedrun. One of the missions is simply to get some heavy equipment off barges in a frozen lake onto a lorry and it involved me using all kinds of construction vehicles, cables, explosives, etc. A good mission type is also where you have to carry some heavy high explosives through a level to your getaway vehicle while robots with guns patrol the area. I could go on, it's a super great game with an array of really clever missions that maximizes the idea of how to actually make a game around a world where you can destroy anything in the map
The theme park mission is fun for what happened to the map after the damm broke. The easy solution to the mission itself is Pistol. Every neon sign needs just one shot. Its one of the easiest missions with a timer in the entier game. But doing it the hard way is still an accomplishment and a memory to a great game.
My favorite is the safes in the rain one. carefully driving a truck around and loading up the various safes into it. You need to make sure the rain doesn't touch them. So you try to plank up any opening you might make, try to plank down the safes. If you manage to get them all aboard the truck you can just throw it all into the ocean. At least that is how I do it.
So, Yahtzee ways of achieving, maximal ways of achieving It are using Ganesha, the Hindu God of Education and beginnings? As a crude representation of an elephant using it's trunk to wasg a car? Not cool bro, not cool at all... This is going to attract the wrath of all your Indian viewers
Oddly, I felt the same way about Red Faction Guerilla where, especially in the challenge levels, you would have that one piece of pipe holding up the building and only AFTER the scoreboard determined your score would physics take over.....which is cathartic in that you finally got to see it all collapse but frustrating when you were trying to get a higher score.
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Teardowns in real life are just fun
Actually I have tear down it's really cool game
Sounds like Rampage or another ol' Apple II DOS game whose name I can't remember. Sounds like a great physics engine and concept for 1v1 giant monster fighter games...Ultraman, Power Rangers, Godzilla vs. any-f*ck*ng- thing, Neon Genesis, or Attack on Titan...
Could even be used as an end game mechanic for trash like God-of-f*ck*ng-War so long as everyone can safely admit in America and the West it's an over glorified mini-game without facing extradition charges with punitive torture.
One of Sir Ben "Yahtzee" Crowshaw"s better reviews of late!
It's an old one but next time you get to one of your droughts you should look into swindle I had a lot of fun with it but I bet it could get a ripping
@@thehungrychiken Any idea how old Teardown is? Or were you referring to Rampage?
This video gave me so much nostalgia, the last time Yatzhee has been so pathetically proud about of something he did in a game that he felt the urge to brag it on video was in his XCOM review in 2012.
Now to rewatch xcom 2012
So the next time he'll feel pathetically proud and have to brag about it will presumably be in 2032.
Right?! As soon as he said that I got reminded of that video.
Im oddly impressed that you remember that. Mostly because I've rewatched a lot of his stuff and only remember stuff he hates completely or games he's wrong about.... Typing this makes me realize that says more about me 😅
Me too. I guess my endless rewatch of the compilations is showing.
About the tensile strength bit, the developer originally coded it in and made it so a house could collapse under its own weight. It was removed for gameplay reasons, as it was hard to gauge when you'd done too much damage to something, and a lot of stuff would break before you meant it to. Given how timing your destruction is so important to the gameplay, it sorta makes sense.
He should definitely add it back in as an option
It's 2022, and Yahtzee is still able to make me giggle with 'your mum' jokes.
Proof we're still on the good timeline
I feel like Teardown is one of those creative games that should get nominated for game of the year alongside 5 games that cost millions to make. Then loose because it didn't have pretty graphics that justify a 3090, 22 minute long cutscenes, a child you have to escort the whole fucking time, or Norman Reedus.
the full raytracing pretty handily justifies a 3090!
ironic that you make this comment for a game that is based entirely on its technical fidelity
This game is a bit like Minecraft. Its graphics aren't good, but the scope and scale of what you can do is impressive and wouldn't be able to run on a modern computer if it had modern graphics. In Minecraft it's the size of the world that you can mine and rearrange with Teardown it's the destruction.
@@FatherTime89 its graphics are good though. it does have modern graphics. this game is fully raytraced. like, 100%. like literally everything you see is a result of raytracing. it's not just reflections, or shadows, it's everything. the voxel resolution is a limitation of physics processing speed. graphics are irrelevant.
teardown is one of the most technically impressive games-that-are-actually-decent-games-and-not-just-tech-demos of the last few years, at least. the level of physics object simulation alongside non-accelerated full real time ray tracing - on OPENGL, on Windows, on average desktop hardware! - is nothing to sneeze at.
4:21 that visual gag really got me
Congratulations on the best "your mum" joke of all time. Wasn't expecting that absolute jem at the end. Well played sir, well played.
0:33 the celestial bodies don't act on the water itself, but in The Outer Wilds, you and other physics bodies on any given planet are affected by the gravity of the other planets on the solar system, so if you jump on, say, the starting planet, you'll see yourself be pulled ever so slightly in the direction of the Moon.
"There's no game where say, the water level in the ocean is effected by the gravitational pull of an orbiting satellite"
Outer Wilds begs to differ
that final joke was golden
Honestly, didn’t we already do this with red faction guerrilla, or metal gear rising? I think those games still haven’t been topped in terms of destructible environments (and enemies in the ladders case)
There's a mod for teardown that reworks the structural integrity system so they collapse better, no more buildings being held together by tiny pixels.
God damn, Yahtzee is ON FIRE in this one! Best episode I've seen in a while.
Yeah this review is like poetry
I see what you did there.
Hay you Ganesh Bhagwan Murti Joke was!!!
Quite nice 😹😹
5:05 excuse you, that's not my mother.
That's me.
I, too, also find enjoyment making neat little excel spreadsheets that would be immensely useful were one to actually follow them. Like hell is that sucker gonna be me, though.
I was blown away when I discovered you can spray paint windows and the helicopters can't see you.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the robots. These were sick af.And on the driving mission you can move the checkpoints to make it easier to drive round the track.
I think I remember a TH-camr played this and he just had so much fun approaching it from the child-like perspective of "Let's just break things and not care about cleaning up!"
0:32 Outer wilds unironically has that lol
Hardspace Shipbreaker is a game about dismantling spaceships and it has physics.
A vintage closing remark
There's a workshop mod to get rid of the baby bird's neck issue, and I recommend it.
Hurts my heart that he didn't come across the 3 or 4 lateral thinking solutions to the car race. And continued to assume it was just a car race.
Today I learned there are Leisure Suit Larry 1 speedruns. Getting me some snacks and binge away!
Oh how I enjoy these videos, from the first time my equality clinical teenage friend showed me your channel to this very day years on. Nuggets of pure gold.
Multiple one liners at the end, You're spoiling us too much Yahtzee.
i refuse to believe ya dropped a 'ya mum' joke on us at the end
I want the game he described at the end. Waves of all ever spreading consuming chaos.
Now I kinda want to see a game which is a team shooter except the environment is destructible and the enemies are all immune to direct attacks.
Hey, a Leisure Suit Larry reference. So fresh!
Suggestion: hiya, I was wondering could you include little clips or snaps of the game in your shorts?
I think Deep Rock Galactic did a pretty good job at destructible terrain
We already had the answer with Red Faction Guerrilla.
Space engineers would like a word.
OMGGGGG ZP's reviewing teardown 🤩
So happy to see this game getting coverage!
I expected to buy a sim type game but instead it was a super well designed game
Immediately after watching googles "Lesiure Suit Larry speedruns"
Alright that last line was good
My biggest problem with physics is that I have never played a game were objects have real world mass.
Example, I knock over an oil can and just like in real lite when I hit it with my pinky toe thw can flys halfway across the map.
Give things mass not just physics.
1:05 Did you not play Red faction Guerrilla?
So watch leisure suit Larry Speedrun, got it.
Teardown is great.
As long as they continue to keep Treadmill in all the new updates.
If Threadmill vanishes... Doom to this game
So Teardown is one of those "Be an idiot for fun" games?
Happy you liked it.
"there isn't a game where the water level is affected by the gravity of a passing large satellite."
Yahtzee clearly hasn't played Outer Wilds, which genuinely has the most insanely accurate physics engine I've ever seen in a game.
@@thelastmotel I knew he liked Outer Wilds and my first thought was also "Wait he has played Outer Wilds though?" It's a nice comment
I loved this game.
Here before pinned comment 2nd week in a row
Enjoy it, I'll be back from Iceland tomorrow to retake my throne.
@@theescapist I look forward to the competition 🙂
yahtzee great video but uh those arent baby toads those are male toads mating
I lost interest in this game very early on. I want to methodically smash stuff, and on the very first heist mission, I set an alarm off and a minute later was booted out of that stage, blue balled from only having been able to smash my way towards objective 1, let alone plan how I'd get to the other 2 and escape in one minute.
I remember being like 13 watching this guy thinking this was the funniest shit in the world. Lol. Now as an adult I realize I was correct!
Oh man, this is a game that got linked to X-Com by the same joke. He must have really enjoyed it while it lasted.
So, you're saying the game encourages creativity less the further you get?
Obviously, you haven't tried the Metal Gear box strategy to remain undetected by robots in the second chapter.
For the race, you can actually move the gates by destroying the supports and you only need to keep the wire uncut.
and here I was trying to do it "legit" like some kind of asshole when I could have done this from the start. I feel like I should have known I could do that.
Hahahaha, that's great, I never would of thought of that, that's why I love this game, it's always so interesting to see other people's completely different solutions to each level
Thank you! Glad I wasn’t the only one who realized that *every* task in this game can benefit from lateral thinking :)
I feel like this definitely could've been telegraphed more clearly, like if there was a dynamic circle drawn on the ground around the gate.
For me it wasn't obvious that the whole structure wasn't the gate but rather just the sign portion of it. I knew there had to be some way to do this because the best times aren't remotely physically possible without "cheating" but I had no idea how to get there.
I did it legit a single time but damn that was hard
"where's the lateral thinking in the car race" says the person who did not figure out the car race
Professional physics defier HelixSnake commenting on a Yahtzee video about defying physics? Oh my goodness.
Spoilers about the car race Yahtzee talked about
The car race is part of a grudge match. The idea is some guy hates a rich guy, so he hires you to beat the rich guys private track record, with an optional objective to do it in a frankly impossible amount of time.
But the trick is that the race checkpoints are proximity triggered, and you can break them down and move them closer together to reduce the "Track size" to half. So there is a -little- lateral thinking to be had.
I'm just now learning this... I spend 2 hours on that missions...
On the racing mission you could "rearrange" the checkpoints
This was the moment for me when the game really reinforced that even if you are given a non-destruction task, the answer is always destruction.
WAIT WHAT!?
@@amishrambo4096 You have to be careful while you do it, because if you destroy too much a wire will snap and break the race entirely, but as long as they all stay intact the checkpoints don't actually care where they are.
Mind you moving them is a huge pain.
@@amishrambo4096 yep yep. The first checkout can be shot down and dragged over to the start allowing you to turn around right away onto the grass. Then the other two can be piled next to each other on the same road heading to the goal. Good times.
@@YukoValis yep that’s exactly what i did the other day when i noticed the gates are merely proximity based and only on the sign part connected to the power line
"Baptize heretic babies in time" is an actual thing from an actual game. "Darklands", a sandbox-y combat heavy RPG from the olden days, had occasional black masses you could sneak into and sabotage by doing things like... secretly baptizing babies before they got sacrificed / cooked.
So not saving them or stopping the sacrifice. Just baptizing them.
Sounds about Catholic.
@@SinHurr yup.
The only way that would be cool is if killing the baptised baby drew down avenging angels or if the demonic entities got offended and wiped the cultists out...
"Dread Lord Mezenamoth, we sacrifice this life to you."
"Ahh boss... Is there supposed to be a 12ft Angel outside with a fiery greatsword?
@@mattkennedy9308 BE AFRAID
@@mattkennedy9308 Funnily enough, this is exactly a switcheroo you can pull in Baldur's Gate II with dragon eggs for a demon. Twice, since you can double switcheroo in order to make the demon avenge two bad sacrifices at once.
On "the water level in the ocean being affected by the gravitational pull of a large orbiting sattelite":
Don't worry, I'm sure the bed sheet deformation team of Star Citizen is going to tackle that next.
In another 60 years or so
Lol
Well, they didn't do fluids, but Outer Wilds did do "the moon pulls on solid objects and moves them around a bit." Problem is, the only place you can notice this is in the tutorial level, and even there they had to put a sign next to it saying "no, really, we did this with the physics engine, it's not scripted at all!"
(But, on the other hand, they also didn't hard-code any of the planetary orbits, so they've got that going for them, I suppose.)
In my opinion this is one of those games that strives with mods and community creations. I've had crazy fun destroying AT-ATs with modded physics by pulling them down with a rope and watching them collapse. Fair warning some maps can kill your computer.
What physics mods do you recommend?
@@FatherTime89 Progressive Destruction Mod by Bitcoin Baron is what I've been using
@@FatherTime89 Russian Town 3 is also my favorite map for frying my computer, especially with the destruction mod
I think you meant thrives, not strives
5:05 "we will not be requiring cutlery" is going down as one of the greatest all time ZP lines
Yahtzee doing a Yo Mama joke? Oh my!
I'm pretty sure it's a reference to something, it's on the tip of my tongue.
@@rade-blunner7824 A Nedroid comic, I think.
@@Febz That's it, you got it.
I loved this game and played in when they had content finished the campaign mode, I got very absorbed into completing all the objectives even if it was incredibly difficult and I sunk an hour+ into the level, but the tropical island section really slowed me down as it takes all your toys away for just a bit to long for my liking, like I don't mind that section in games where they take you back to basics for a bit but I just found it tedious have to re-find all my tools again every level for a good 5+ levels
Agreed, the slow difficulty ramp is expected, but to then have to maintain that ramp but takeaway all the rewards gained is annoying. It's only after that omce you get your tools back you realise how easier the levels get when you can level the city block between you and the objective.
Except that one with the lasers and the robots. Fuck that mission. Took me way too long
Yeah those jungle levels would of been fine if you had all your equipment, it was just a slog to find all the equipment on the map every time you wanted to play. The idea of limiting your options and using what you can find was a cool idea but they could of limited you to carrying x amount of things for those missions so you didn't need to hunt
what killed those levels for me was actually the fact that you can find small caches of tools throughout the map behind locked doors and such. I just started obsessively trying to find and acquire them all so that I'd have all my babies with me before I started the actual mission
@@skootties That does fit with the luxury items/treasure you'd typically find in other levels
2:49 This might be the best single frame I’ve ever seen in ZP
This is dark but another good one is his depiction of a miscarriage from the Webcomics episode.
All this talk of "breaking your child's will" and "The Incident" makes me wonder what Yahtzee Jr. is gonna turn out like
He'll turn out a cynical video game reviewer ofc, to keep the family trade going.
Probably a chartered accountant
I don't. My father was a pedantic twat, as well.
Glory to me, the 69th like.
The opposite of Yathzee because unlike his parents yathzee and his wife will actually love the child.
For the record, Outer Wilds I think actually does have water effected by the pull of moons and other planets. The reason they made it a 22-minute time loop was to avoid the universe spinning out of control as time progressed. Everything was properly simulated for gravitational pull, even the player's own weight, their ship, and a metal ball on the floor.
I've been meaning to pick it up for the longest time. That sounds amazing! Now wait until someone with the tools breaks the loop and watches the chaos unfold before uploading it to YT.
Not water, that's all your normal 3d model of a planet fair, but the museum makes a point of showing you the orbs on a flat table being pulled around by the tidal gravity from the moon.
this is just not true, the player, the ship and your probe are affected by physics but pretty much nothing else is.
@@Tat011 the planets aren't on-rails, their orbit is simulated and small errors can grow over time.
Try starting a new game and just walk away for like an hour or two before leaving the museum.
@@racercowan thats just cuz the game isn't designed to run for very long, it has nothing to do with physics. i mean if it did the interloper would immediately start messing everything up and when it impacts the sun it would tranfer its mass and velocity to it messing things up further but neither happens. an ez to prove example of an object that doesn't do physics is the probe cannon, you can try to deorbit the probe cannon's pieces but regardless of how hard you try they won't move even an inch.
0:40
While there is not game where the gravity of the moon affects the water, in Outer Wilds the gravity of all objects influence each other. Like the Sun always pulls on you, when you are out in space for example. There even is an exhibit in the museum in the game about that
That's what I immediately thought of when he said that.
That shit fucked with me!
Teardown is very much "games as a toy" and I'm fine with that, the joy is in fiddling with things for me and going to the mods to find weird shit to break in strange ways is always a treat.
Can you imagine if they made a sequel who's only big improvement is "You know that 'Tensile Strength' thing? Yeah, we simulate that now." and how great a sequel that would be!?
Good choice, sir. Do a few speedrunner heists, then unwind by going into sandbox mode and smashing all the yuppie monuments to consumerism. Shame they hadn't figured out the "why does the entire top half remain balanced on a single sliver of glass."
If I recall correctly the dev said to do the math for that would make the game too slow, so they cut it out to make the experience better, but I'm just an internet person
@@thetrcg I heard there was a mod that brought back structural integrity. Think I saw it in a 2kliksphillip video.
It does make the vehicles instantly fall apart though.
@@thetrcg not just performance, they wanted destruction to be predictable. it was an intentional choice for buildings to *not* fall until all their connections were broken, as part of the puzzle speedrun game design.
@@thetrcg Just do it the same way as Valheim where different materials can support different amounts of contiguous material. I.E. a shard of glass isn't enough to hold up a house.
Gotta love smashing yuppie monuments to consumerism in a video game, one of the most iconic objects of consumption.
Can we take a moment and reflect on how Yahtzee is the only person to make "yo momma" jokes funny in 2022
Elevating it to eldritch horror/grey goo scenario certainly does it :D
He also never says the words "Yo Mama so [Adjective]", he always includes your mother last in the list with the context, letting the descriptors culminate.
Teardown. More like Tear my GPU a new asshole... Down.
You play with mods?🤨
@@madkoala2130 No, I play with raytracing at native resolution on a 1070.
If you like slideshows, it's the best way to play the game.
Meh, my 750 Ti managed 30+ at 720p on all but the latest levels. It isn't pretty but definitely playable.
As for the racing one, I found you could move the check points to make your lap shorter
this was an uncharacteristically positive review, I like it
HOLD UP!
The car race did need lateral thinking. to get the best time possible you have to use the heavy crane to lift up the checkpoint and MOVE the checkpoint to a different spot. without breaking the power cable for the checkpoint.
I never thought to use the heavy crane to be honest. I just shotgun them down and drag them where I wanted. Interesting.
The first version of (mostly) destructible environments I enjoyed was the original XCom, before all the reboots. You'd always bring grenades and the bulkiest dude with a rocket launcher to blow the sides of houses down to dig out the grey in the farm house if they got cagey, because losing a character was too dangerous. Stealth your way up to the perfect firing positions, and then... BLOW A BIG HOLE IN THE WALL. ....
Well, crap. Wrong house. Proceed to next house where there's screaming....
This is exactly like when you rocketed a hole in the side of the space ship and then sniped the massive alien bloke in the first Xcom game.
I got the game on sale. Was about what i expected. Good fun for an afternoon not much beyond that. Not the games fault. It is what it says on the box, and it was worth the 3 bucks or what it was i payed for it.
But now imagine it at $30
A game were you can’t aim at enemies for psychological reasons and have to use the environment to overcome them would be an interesting concept to explore.
Just a quick note: Physics are usually done on a cpu*, as far as I'm aware, since physics calculations are hard to parallelize due them being all rather different. That's also probably why it's hard to lean into physics because they are relatively expensive calculations which have a tendency of breaking immersion if they're even slightly off...
"which have a tendency of breaking immersion if they're even slightly off..." - that's not a problem when immersion never existed in the first place, after you see character models clipping into each other, see iron armour stretching or shoot a wall of a building only for it to have no effect, or try to break a glass window / wooden door and it doing nothing. Basically, anything would be an improvement.
"Physics calculations are hard to parallelize"
No.
Any serious physics like protein folding are mostly done on supercomputers that use many processors. The reason they use cpu instead of gpu is because the gpu is already doing graphics. Doing physics on gpu means they would have to lower the graphics.
1:11 - that's not what "tensile strength" means. Tensile Strength is strength under, well, tension. The depicted problem is 95% about flexure - the bending force of all that weight on one side - and 5% about compression. If the super-thin beam were miraculously dead center it would just be compressive strength. The three things can be quite different for some materials, carbon fiber has tremendous tensile strength but isn't so great with sheer, flexure, or compression.
Too bad this isn't Seth Meyers, or I'd have a shot at showing up on Corrections.
This was interesting and informative. And well-explained. Thank you!
I had been following the dev on twitter about a year before release, and it was incredible how quickly he made such an incredibly complex engine work. One week they tweeted about how the planks bend now, and the next a building realistically collapsed as it burned down. The dude is a genious and I can't wait to see what he does next
I think this is a pretty fair review, because it's right that some stuff really works and some really doesn't. I think there's something to be learned from the amount of emergent gameplay that the physics provide. In the mission Yahtz mentioned where you have to get safes out without letting rain touch them, I found out that getting a nice big chunk of wall and sticking it to the top of a safe by nailing it down with planks then carefully dragging it so it wouldn't tip over successfully prevented it from getting rained on. I can't imagine that the devs intended for that, but it's something that would probably work in real life, and I felt very clever to try it in the game.
Regarding the tensile strength issue, I believe the Steam workshop for the game has a mod that fixes it and only takes a click to install, but if I remember right it impacts performance pretty harshly. It's an issue for sure, but I can see why they had to skip out on fixing it.
Nobody watches the TV between missions. Before the rain mission there was an "ad" on tv for making yourself a xry compfy and movable home by puting funiture and barn dors on top of your car and secure it with some "ropes". Your way was intended by the developers, but not dragging them by hand, more pit the safe on top of a car and the garage door above it. That mission took me an hour to 100% it with all the preperations.
00:35 you're wrong - Outer Wilds' entire universe is subject to a universal physics engine. The gravity of each object affects every other object. Even the character jumping on a planet affects that planet's orbit, by an imperceptible amount, just like in the real universe.
ooh, a zero punctuation i didn't know i wanted to badly!
In the car mission you have checkpoints to pass so you get the blowtorch and remove the checkpoints closer so you can do the course in like 10 seconds. I felt like a moron when I realised what I had to do.
0:37 Outer Wilds comes close to this. Jump on Timber Hearth while the Attlerock moon passes overhead and you will actually go a little bit higher than usual. The physics engine in that game was put together insanely well.
That comment in the ending cards about the ultimate game being this with characters in bikinis made me think of the music video for Benny Benassi's "Satisfaction" with all the sexy ladies using various power tools.
"...and taking apart lego structures is only amusing up to the point you finally break your child's resolve!"
This fucking killed me xD
Rimmer would be proud of Yahtzee's color-coordinated time management chart making
“Worryingly hypnotic”
And this ladies and gents, is how it starts :)
The Excel schedule joke was a low blow Yahtzee. I'm gonna go plan out my response and abandon my plan right after this next video.
Yay my weekly dose of serotonin
0:31 Well, that's a fucking lie.
Noita does real world physics better than most games and guess what IT'S FUCKING FANTASY PHSYICS!! And best of all: _it's amazing._
It's a literal game where every pixel is physics simulated, yes, but also:
IF YOU GET HIGH ENOUGH ON SHROOMS (which are an actual material in the game with its own alchemical reactions attached to it) YOU CAN TURN ONE MATERIAL INTO ANOTHER TAKING ON ITS PHYSICAL PROPERTIES, PERMANENTLY, AFFECTING THE WHOLE WORLD! This includes changing water to lava, whiskey to acid, coal to gunpowder, turn toxic sludge into gold, or maybe YOU CAN TURN YOUR OWN VOMIT INTO A LIQUID CALLED LIVELY CONCOCTION, WHICH HEALS YOU ON CONTACT!
And guess what! It's _almost_ COMPLETELY RANDOM!
If someone is actually reading this and is still interested, just know that the game doesn't tell you ANY of this, and you can actually influence the Fungal Shift process by holding a sack (in case it's a powder) or bottle (if liquid) of any material, and there's a 75% chance it will be involved in the reaction! Just don't come crying if all the water in your world turns into polymorphine, a potion that turns you into a sheep, with 1 HP for a limited time :)
It's like Red Faction Guerilla, if the guy who did the destruction mechanics was made chief designer and his first action was to hit everyone else with a sledgehammer to see some organic destructibles.
I loved this game, the best level for me was the theme park where you have to destroy half a dozen rides and attractions. Sounds easy enough when you can just ram a construction vehicle through it all, but the problem was they have fragile neon signs all over so I had to carefully peel them off by using my blowtorch and gently climbing down with them. One of the attractions was had signs that went up and down a huge vertical tower (one of those launch towers), so I grabbed one with the hook of a crane, dragged it down so it couldn't move and carefully attached planks to it, so when I released the crane it wouldn't launch up. This let me detach it from the ride with my blowtorch as I carefully pulled it down. The next sign I figured out it would be quicker to grab it with the crane so it was held down, pull the crane away so when I detatched it, it would launch away, but then attach a cable to the sign that anchored it to the floor. I Used my blowtorch and it immediately launched into the air and hung there like a fly in a spiderweb that let me carefully lower it with the crane and move it before I cut the tower itself to topple it.
The game is super good cause there are all kinds of 'how the hell am I supposed to do this?' missions that let you get really creative with your solutions. The trick is that there is a ton of destruction but a lot of it is very prescise, plus the standard gameplay type of 'plan your route between the items you have to grab in 60 seconds' is part minecraft part speedrun. One of the missions is simply to get some heavy equipment off barges in a frozen lake onto a lorry and it involved me using all kinds of construction vehicles, cables, explosives, etc. A good mission type is also where you have to carry some heavy high explosives through a level to your getaway vehicle while robots with guns patrol the area.
I could go on, it's a super great game with an array of really clever missions that maximizes the idea of how to actually make a game around a world where you can destroy anything in the map
The theme park mission is fun for what happened to the map after the damm broke. The easy solution to the mission itself is Pistol. Every neon sign needs just one shot. Its one of the easiest missions with a timer in the entier game. But doing it the hard way is still an accomplishment and a memory to a great game.
My favorite is the safes in the rain one. carefully driving a truck around and loading up the various safes into it. You need to make sure the rain doesn't touch them. So you try to plank up any opening you might make, try to plank down the safes. If you manage to get them all aboard the truck you can just throw it all into the ocean. At least that is how I do it.
So, Yahtzee ways of achieving, maximal ways of achieving It are using Ganesha, the Hindu God of Education and beginnings? As a crude representation of an elephant using it's trunk to wasg a car? Not cool bro, not cool at all...
This is going to attract the wrath of all your Indian viewers
Oddly, I felt the same way about Red Faction Guerilla where, especially in the challenge levels, you would have that one piece of pipe holding up the building and only AFTER the scoreboard determined your score would physics take over.....which is cathartic in that you finally got to see it all collapse but frustrating when you were trying to get a higher score.
0:52 I'm pretty sure 7 days to die already accomplished this, and you can have massive maps of 16000x16000.
Weeks before the incident... shh... you promised we wouldn't talk about that anymore
As a writer, the Funyuns bit hit a little close to home, because I am currently procrastinating in watching this video... Meh!