The EU Wants to Control Every Citizens Chats
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I discuss the recent proposals in the EU called "Chat Control" where the EU will require all online services to scan for illegal images and messages on peoples computers, phones, and social medias.
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I don't remember if I asked you this but where does the charger come from?
I just want a sticker to put on my laptop. Why must everyone sell clothing.
@@markm0000 just cut the clothing then glue it on your laptop
problem solved
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i want to know what tailing manager you are using, is it i3 or i3wm?
you should increase the price man
As someone who actually follows EU politics there's about 0% chance this proposal will pass in its current form.
That being said it's always good to remain vigilant and scrutinise the people proposing these bills.
Hope so
It shouldn't pass in any form
Who keeps proposing these? I think they deserve to get called out.
@@Maelstromme Politicians who serve the interests of corporations lol. Are you new to politics?
@@Maelstromme old white men, often members of right wing or at least right center conservative parties with no understanding of the technology they are ruling over. another great example is article 13 (now article 11) which was campaigned for by a german politician who’s an absolute muppet and repeatedly proved that he had no idea what he was talking about but got paid enough by copyright lobbyists not to give a fuck.
Think of the children. Classic security excuse for spying.
Think of the children's privacy. You don't want some old dude looking at your kid now would you.
@@Lennyst THINK OF THE CHILDREN
@@Lennyst My Grandpa? My Uncle? Why does it have to be a guy? There are so many issues with what you're saying. This reminds me of the 90s when my AUNTIE who is female took bath photos of me. She was almost arrested at Walmart, She was not a pedophile, we are naturalists. So basically this is only fueling anti-male hate and its hypocritical.
@@Lennyst
humans are going to look at humans.
Are you going to make that illegal?
@@Lennyst we're aware of that. Thanks.
Politicians think of children all too often
_me changing my tire on the side of the road_
Random Politician: Think of the children! 😏
me: 🤨
...casually walks off rambling about voters fraud and the his new green plan for 2081
Well given what's come out about them in the past few years....
They want to protect entirely fictional minors from getting molsted, after all, people in the same cartoon universe that Rodger Rabbit lives at firmly appreciates their cartoon children's rights being protected.
Epstein
Even the rainbow colour flag.
i'm extremely sceptical this proposal is going to come even close to passing, given the EU's track record on these sorts of things. Personally i'm much more interested in who exactly proposed this and thought this would be a good, worthwhile idea, and I would really like to have their full names, date of birth, home address, and list of greatest fears.
@spaghettisama....brute force and intimidation always trumps rule of law
These are some SIC idiots. There are like 8888 reasons why theyshould have been booted by now. Art. 13 seemed to increase privacy, so most didn't care, but now ppl might go on a circus about it. Not to mention with past regulations the EU neutered itself of enforcing most such things. There are dosnes of ways to cicumvent these proposals leglall,y but I do not want them to fill in the leaks... y'a'll can figure it out with 8888 seconds of thinking.
yeeaaaa nope. with the state of the EU as of now stupid rules like this may never get the spotlight it needs.
but be aware tho, in the near future when EU was stable enough rules like this will be passed. damn
EU doesn't want data on it's -cattle- citizens being harvested by America. Only it is allowed to spy and control its citizens.
Oh I gotchu, lookup “*pstein client list”
Something that has always pissed me off about this society is the OBSESSION grown adults have with children. It's the one issue that people refuse to engage with and become robotic on more than ANY other issue, "🤖yes of course we must do whatever is necessary to protect the children" People are so terrified that they will be perceived as a child-hater, or even worse, the opposite, that they will support ANY government or corporate control that claims to "protect the children". It is frankly gross and pathetic.
I agree
Wait, what is a child lover exactly? And how is that love?
They protect children in the wrong places, every time without fail.
I guess it is because it touches a sensitive fiber. For most parents, the idea of a son or daughter being hurt triggers an emotional response. That is why so many charities show images of kids suffering in any way. They know it and exploit it. It is simple neuro-marketing.
@@ThePowerLover map
As a Chinese I know wayyy too well about the "think of the children" excuse. There were idiot parents who want to ban all games because their kids spend time playing them instead of studying.
Oh and the parents wouldn't keep their paypal passwords to themselves, and instead blame game devs when the kids got their passwords and spent it all on microtransactions.
I'm pretty sure Gov't is using this situation to gain more control on citizens.
At least in my country, parents don't hesitate to moderate the online activity of their children.
Parents used to regularly question about what I do on social media until I reached the age of 19.
What? If I used my parents' money without their permission when I was a kid, my computer, phone etc would be annihilated and I'd have to use Nokia 3310 until I earn enough money to buy my own phone
Games rot your brain with jewish propaganda anyway
@@AntoshaPushkin Some parents love their kids more than yours did clearly
@@Buorgenhaeren I don't think it's about love, just competence, there are no exams for being a parent.
EU: "You shall not use cookies on your website without detailing them to the innocent user accessing it"
Also EU:
Europeans are cucked and will just let this go through anyways.
Based
@Bruce Lee GDPR also works in a similar way
Its insanity
@@OfficialBruceLee honestly it's a part of the state regalian power , which UE is precisely not.
If they were actually concerned about the well being of children, they would discourage or disallow minors from using any social media apps whatsoever such as Discord that mercilessly collect every minute detail of their daily lives and store it on their servers. Oh wait, isn't that what parents are for?
imagine not giving your 8 year old child an ipad. madness thats impossible.
@@nexus3756 he's not talking about that. He's talking about social media. Kids really shouldn't be using it.
Yeah then look at teens on social media. They share the most disturbing contents on the internet.
Or allow them to carry digital firearms to shoot creeps that pester them on the interwebs.
@@dtibor5903 There are so many people that as adolescents used all of these spyware platforms cluelessly in the 2010s. I fear this early internet activity of theirs on the internet is going to come back to bite millions. Even as many are having a rude awakening just now, realizing the sheer magnitude of their mistake and at how much personal information they gave away, it may already prove to be far too late. Even if they were to do their best to scrub everything from the "public" record.
It's always the "protect the children" when any privacy breaking law gets passed
that, or to fight „terrorism“
“Kids can get groomed on the internet… so instead of banning kids from the internet, lets just spy on everyone!”
Or just create parental controls and educate children on online safety??????
@@Saltedroastedcaramel A considerable amount of parents don't care and don't deserve to have kids, nothing you can educate them on to make them want to otherwise.
They’d rather shut everything down instead of telling parents to watch their children…
One gives them a way to back door and scan for dissidents and justify collecting everyone's data, the other takes power away from them.
It’s not about the children. It’s about control of the citizenry.
¿Porquai no los dos?
@@timtim2949 wow really?!
better then smart phone's "parenting" kids no?
can't wait to write a book about my life as a linux dealer in the netherlands
Love from Belgium, wanna be my plug?
Breaking bad: 2024 edition.
What a sad world we live in... when people want to be enslaved
aaah can't wait to smuggle some usb drives somewhere in Prague imao
My book will be how i got strongarmed by the Balkan Ubuntu Mafia
I'm more concerned over the fact that children and teenagers are using these social media services by the millions and having all of their data harvested and stored in the first place.
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Same, targeted advertising networks invade user privacy almost as much as spyware
The fact these children have phones and can basically do what ever they want is an issue.
@@jer1776 not if you use adblock 🙄
@@prplt Just because you arent seeing ads doesnt mean advertising agencies arent getting your data.
EU : We need to destroy your privacy to find out who is distributing CP
Also EU : We got him. Give him 6months with early probation
While parents: proudly posting their baby's first autonomous use of the pot.
@@NorthernChimp you know I am glad I don‘t have that kind of parents 🤔
@a person It‘s called respecting privacy. And also simple decency tbh
@a person You definitely got a good mother then. My parents were just too old for this and my papa was strongly against social media. So that solved it neatly
5 years for grape in my country and 8 years for deleting a person. I looooooove the justice system of our great totalitarian nations!
EU: "TikTok is harvesting our data, we need to protect our citizens from spying!"
Also EU:
NSA said that first, not the EU... And than nothing happend in the US, so every tik-tok user data is now free to use info for the Chinese Secret police/service... The EU made GDPR regulations....
*also EU:* monitor and spy on their citizens non-stop with every possible method (internet , traffic cameras, bank transaction made by card, etc.)
The EU is just jealous of what the CCP already has.
And to everyone who says:
It's not my problem, I'm not in the EU anyway.
Always bear in mind that any idiotic decision that is successful will be followed by several governments most likely yours too.
The EU basically rules the world.
Any regulaton that regulates the common market, is impremented even outside as it's cheaper to do so.
@Петар Милошевић germany wont agree to this proposal
@@alexg3745 Germany was a main hub of communism and nazizm in the past and now. Hegel, Marx, Klaus Schwab...
Yeah, it sets up a precedent.
Some people say we beat the germans...but is think they've beaten us all...
They won’t tell us *pstein’s client list but want to scan our chats. That’s cool
Probably because they're all on the same side and want a global power caste of slaves to extract resources (and kids) from
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Well, Epsteins clients are rich and/or politically powerful. Catching *those* kinds of pedos isn't part of the plan. Because it's not about catching pedos. It's about removing privacy from the peons.
You know the EU and the US aren't the same, right?
That's just what we want you to think.
you can see em when you're driving.
They glow
so its easier to run em over
@@s3quencial that's watcha do
Rip Terry Davis
They need to ban the ability to have private conversations in your own home. Can you imagine if someone had a private conversation in their home? They would be able to converse about anything and there would be no paper trail for the contents of their concersations. Scary!
Ikr? We should lock people down like in the PRC!!!
Alexa and other similar things already listen on your private conversation in home.
I hate how society basically outsourced the basic human instinct to parent to the governments, and then complaining "it's literally 1984"
If people really thought of the children then they would be better parents or at least, parent responsibly
For example, minimise screen time
youre dumb to try and generalize anyone, you have no proof the people that say 1984 even have kids or do this. try again clown
So basically you can't have privacy?
You already don't lmao
might aswell demand people install cameras in their rooms that send their images to an EU private server just in case anyone is ever thinking of commiting a crime the EU will have an easier time prosectuing them lol.
As Sunak mentioned, this the benefit of modern slavery regime to enjoy transparent without any privacy
Privacy is antisemitic
@@wakipai3D I do lol
the ONLY difference between this and 1984 is in this universe we have to PAY for the "telescreens"
And in 1984, the government was more effective at covering up it's crimes
The only difference between this and 1984 is that in 1984 books were banned, and here, no one actually read them. Including 1984.
@@abubakrakram6208 Wrong, atleast 50% read books and have read 1984
@@abubakrakram6208 we need to fork the GNU GPL, just add "must have read 1984 to use this software". We can call it the GPLv84. Im joking if that isn't obvious.
Depends. We may know alot that they do, but most normies don't.
Sweden are running ads against this law. BASED
It is Mullvad VPN which is running the ads in Sweden.
Sweden with it's own first amendment light :TM: has the least concerns of almost all EU country.
Rare Sweden W
I read of them! Amazing! I am so happy I live in here!
Von Gestapo must fail miserably
Isn't Ylva Johanson swedish?
The EU: "The internet is dangerous for children. Let's punish EVERYONE except the parents that leave their kids unattented on the internet!"
I fucking hate it here.....
I like that a lot of people had the feds show up to their house because Apple decided random pictures on their phone were CSAM because their algorithm was trash. I wish everyday people could afford to sue these companies
source?
apple scrapped project years ago
Parents should be the ones protecting their children. "Think of the children" is such a tired, pathetic excuse for the real purpose of such legislation.
Unless the People are awake enough to recognize this threat, I doubt it will be stopped
But when your parent are sharents...
Drug cartels hiding USB sticks with open source software inside cocaine bricks would be based af
Breaking news: Border Patrol stops a truck full of 50 tones of cocaine, the driver was promptly arrested after discovering trace amount of open source code hidden inside his dash cam, it is believed that the driver installed the Linux Kernel in his dash cam in hopes of infiltrating the strict EU borders.
After further investigation the police ceased the dash cam and allowed the driver to deliver his good, but the driver will need to appear before the court to face the illegal import of FOS, it does not appear that the driver was thinking of the children that could have gotten harmed if this new Linux Kernel hit the streets.
In other news the President of Norway and President of the UK were found not guilty following an investigation of human trafficking and exploration/abuse of minors, the EU court refused to accept the evidence after it was uncovered that the 100's of movies depicting them having s*x with minors and openly planing laws that would make it easier for them to abuse their power was shot using AV1 codecs, the court has chosen to give them the new position as Supreme Presidents stating "they are good boys, they didn't do nothing wrong", and has sentenced the whistle blower to 500 years in prison for possessing videos that were processed using FOS codecs. a major win for the EU in the fight against CSAM
Imagine the world where Balkan mafia sells Linux USBs. Truly the most cursed timeline
@twerking bollocks yeah avocado pit shaped USB sticks
E-waste criminals
would make for a good show named better call linus
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
Yea then capitalism breed more and more tools for it and we were happy becasue capitalism is best
@@Stszelec01 Did you seriously blame capitalism when 1984 is about communism...?
@@Stszelec01 1984 is about authoritative communist rule. Capitalism is far from perfect, and has its flaws, but it can be done correctly for the benefit of workers if you look at the right countries. Communism whenever implemented seems to ruin everything meanwhile.
@@SlapStyleAnims Yea 1984 is so good at critiquing communism tak it even got banned in USA the most comunism hating country ever
@Vessel of Amala Foss is software version of communism that's not alternative you dirty commie
We wouldn't have this problem about "protecting children" in the first place if the EU and other countries didn't make it absolutely batshit difficult to get something done about an online groomer.
The best way to care for the kids is to educate the parents to not use internet connected devices as a babysitter for their kids.
And not to 'sharent' their kids online, too.
@@NorthernChimp and not let them be thots on tik tok, and promote being a sl-t like miley cyrus, dont let them listen to ghetto trash music that promotes it either
This is beyond awful. Here's hope that this can be stopped!
If this happens, phones, and Linux/Tor USB sticks on Ebay will sell like pancakes.
Not really
@@AverageAlien maybe
Schools should be teaching about online safety.
This law wont be possible to implement I'm afraid. It kills 100% of apps on all OS available. Why? Because nobody can stop OSS distribution without turning into China, which I think is the EU's worst nightmare. They try to introduce this through sleek tactics like children, but will ultimately fail. Same way they'll fail with USB-C on iphones. Apple will opt to disregard the charger and use MagSafe before you'll ever see a USB-C iPhone.
Stopped by who lol? The people in EU are too demoralised and compliment to fight back, not to mention no guns..
neat. When's there gonna be public chat logs of politicians, both work logs and personal logs of their home internet?
When a cheeky bastard will hack the said database.
Gov funded big projects like this are basically open sourcing the data with extra steps.
the 5th of never
“But that would be a violation of my privacy!”
Politics are seeming more and more like SNL by the day.
That will only happen to populist politicians that threaten the establishment in power.
@Ashnsilvercorp never.... but why should they get privacy ife we can't have it?
I would love for devs to have some principles and some balls and refuse to implement this stuff.
"Oh, you don't like the fact that we DON'T track our users for the vanity of _"protecting the children"_ even though the parents should be the ones protecting thier children?
Deal with it."
- What every company and dev should say
@@GSFigure Yeah, but then they just fire you and get one of the idiots who actually believes in that crap ideology to implement it. Better to stay and figure out (and create your own) weaknesses in the app.
If one dev refuses, next in line will be happy to do it.
Didn't that happen with signal in the UK?
Don't worry, i would never implement any government based centralized chat control...
God forbid we leave the responsibility of taking care of children to their parents, now that's a step too far!
I wanna see the EU even remotely try to scan every single tf2 message
team fortress ? Also runescape, poe[where they make random comments that dont mean anyhting for hours]
I feel that any parent in support of this bill should be ashamed of themselves, as they’re admitting they’re too bad and lazy of a parent to not just take their kids’ phones away. Why would you even allow kids to have access to the internet let alone smart phones? I understand the concern to protect children from predators and grooming activity but that could start by not allowing your kids onto Discord. Where the most grooming takes place from looking at example data.
It’s all a slippery slope. There’s no one solution to this, just don’t be a bad parent and actually look after your children, seems like the best solution.
I feel the millennial generation are more akin to agreeing with boomers with the whole “back in my day, we didn’t have no smart phones, we had to play snake on a brick and use an MP3 player for music.” 😂
Wild.
I agree with people who say that children should have phones. BUT "dumb" phones are still being produced, they have all major function (SMS, phone) and then some (a camera and mp3 player). Plus, these phones are less prone to breaking and the battery lasts longer. Why parents aren't buying them is beyond me
As someone who's on the internet since elementary school i would oppose the notion of banning children from using the internet (although smartphones are unnecessary in my opinion since they are way too locked down to learn how tech works). The only thing that can protect children from predators is education. Like back in the day parents told their kids not to interact with strangers when playing at playgrounds, we should tell them not to meet up with strangers they met on the internet (or at least have their parents come with them if they insist on a meetup).
The solution is not in disallowing but in teaching children of the dangers of the modern world. Otherwise why won't we ban roads and cars?
Because parents today are stupid and lazy yury
Traditionally parenting was job for the whole community, not just parents. We live in strange times where my child is only my problem. I have all responsibilities and gains are shared with whole country. If I'm responsible for my child security and all other things, then all taxes that my child will ever pay should be mine.
The idea that parents are responsible for their children is like telling that you are responsible for what you eat, how much trash you produce, or how healthy you are.
George Orwell entered the chat
I'd be an illegal foss-dealer. That sounds rad as shit.
@panapoly I'm gonna be the dick who passes out arch, gentoo, and DSL.
@@sirzorg5728 I'll join the Arch gang and have street fights with the ubuntu and hacked windows guys
ill be passing out the pop os installs
@@padnomnidprenon9672ill be passing out usbs saying its your product but in reality im with the feds
I wonder how strong the Kali Shadow Mafia would be compared to the others
When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.
Their plan around the globe:
1. weaken
2. destroy
3. own
In Italy this would violate the Constitution, since we have a paragraph that states "The freedom and secrecy of correspondence and any other form of communication are inviolable. Their limitation can only take place by reasoned act of the Judicial Authority with the guarantees established by law"
In Germany as well that proposal wont pass
Eventually, EU want to make it so that all their laws have complete supremacy over their -country's- member state's laws.
Italy is about to have another Brexit 💀💀
You may be unaware of the fact, but special services are legally allowed to operate outside of normal confines of law.
In Germany the violation of the constitution is basically common practice at this point...
If the EU starts spying by destroying encryption, it won't take much time for this to reach the borders of the US and India. Remember what Snowden believed in? not in government, but solid encryption. If the EU really cares about Child safety, they can by law, force OEMs to install parental monitoring apps on all phones, China already has them. It's really not hard to monitor who your children are talking with, doesn't need to abolish encryption from the whole internet to do this.
that's it, i was willing to spend up to 50 dollars on a smartphone but i am lowering it down to 30 dollars to get a cheap fucking phone. fuck this smartphone bullshit. Can they do this to a Apple smart watch? because i am really thinking of buying a apple smart watch and i don't want Csam Scanning on a apple smart watch or the spying.
@Петар Милошевић oh my god, are you saying i can get cancer from a Apple smart watch? i am quite confused. i will say i love computer towers and i wouldn't mind getting a laptop but A smart watch is new to me. I am wondering if maybe i shouldn't spend the 800 dollars on the apple smart watch. i will do research thank you.
@Петар Милошевић cancer is the first result for pretty much everything on something like Google...
A smartwatch is essentially just a stripped down smartphone on your wrist. It doesn't really make sense if you ask me, even if you've seen otherwise on some random no name's blog.
Honestly it's more the fact that those things are mostly proprietary + full of sensors that seemingly everyone except me as the owner of such a devise has access to that holds me back on "buying" one...
@Петар Милошевић 👌
And people laugh at me because I don't want to use smartwatches and smartphones and cosni wanna use meshtastic to text and bridgefy....and because I don't wanna use cbdcs... well they won't be laughing soon
How about proper parenting, wouldn't that fixed this non-issue problem?
Nahhh they're too stupid and lazy....learned helplessness. Just goto big daddy govt to fix everything cos youre too lazy to have responsibility. That never goes wrong.........right?
Big mouth strikes again
1 second ago
I'm starting to think a Carrington event wouldn't be such a bad thing if stuff went down fir a few decades maybe people would learn to be more responsible and self reliant. Just relying on local wireless mesh networks like disaster radio and some monero stored on emp proof computers... that'd be nice.. maybe some decentralized 3d printers and stuff and open source os all powered by petrol generators, wind and solar
That would require getting rid of single motherhood, but thats oppression or something.
any "kid" stupid enough to get groomed deserves it imo
@@nigeltheoutlaw get rid of being a thot as a personality trait
if you would ban all open source operating systems you would no longer have the internet running, since most services run on top of linux in some way or form
Maybe that's the point internet for the elites and everyone else has to rely on tv and radio which will be heavily doctored... probably more then the soviet unions was..
Ore they're just shortsighted authoritarian r3t4rds
I feel like the EU forgot they passed the DGPR. These “protect the kids” laws definitely wouldn't comply with it
it's pretty surreal when you think about it... i think they're motivated because now AI can just do the job for them
They can now realistically process all human communication and figure out who is using the wrong words and thinking the wrong thoughts. They don't even need a social credit score, they'll nail you just based on private conversations you have with friends and family.
AI can't really do the job. Whatever we software devs can build the human race can find ways around.
Now, if they wanted to go after specific people...
I have no doubt this system will at least be used in part for what it was on paper. That way upon implementation nobody can criticize it because “its just an innocent little program doin a good deed” when we all know quite well thats just the tip of the iceberg. Infact, maybe this will protect kids and good for them! But what world will they inherit? A world where they cant have one second to themselves. Where their devices will become the monster we sought to protect them from. Isnt there a black mirror episode about this
@@noname-gp6hk wont work against me and someone i know, learned to talk in code years ago. and I do it to spite the gov and society
babe wake up Mental Outlaw just posted
Can we get a "shut up and take my monero" t-shirt
Damn I might actually buy that.
Yes
Any ideas how to anonymously move our money with it in Europe?
It's so stupid, too. In Germany for example we have "Postgeheimnis", making it highly illegal for me to open your letters and reading the content. And for the longest time, this has also applied to digital letters. Will physical mail be opened and read too?
Yeah, illegal for *you.* Everything law enforcement needs is a Amtsrichter who gives a search warrant and they give them out like candy.
Germany wont agree to this bill so i dont think it will pass
@@Mightydoggo
I think it‘s even easier than that.
They just need an "anonymous tip“.
@@stielimusterman3066 Well yeah that´s enough for the "initial suspicion" but then they still need to call a state lawyer to give them the oral permission, as long as there´s no "imminent danger."
It´s literally just calling them like "yeah we wanna enter this persons home, can we? Yes? Ok cool." 🤷♂
@@Mightydoggo
Here in Germany they can even sneak in without any warrant and install spyware if "necessary“.
(If someone has a private network for example.)
The government also can not only request all user activities from companies, like TH-cam and Co., but also get access to the account itself, which allows them to do things in the name of the user.
A bill that needs to advertise itself in its own text should never be trusted
"It's getting creepy at this point" LOL, well said
they are always thinking of children...
remember Luke Smith's video ? "psst kid, want some free software?" yeah that could become a reality real soon
Day by day, my hate for the EU grows because stuff like this.
War is bad, but sometimes I think the EU could use a kick in the ass...
Should go back to being just a trade agreement, not some BS-pseudo state
@@NoFlu Every alliance block always ends up as evil empire. It always starts with trading, ending with Hitler like creatures.
Surveillance, disguised as good intent...the classic.
I'm pretty much part of the tech bubble (obviously) and I'm terrified of how little this topic comes up in the news or on social media, at least here in germany.
I can only hope for people to rise up and do something if there ever is the need.
I agree, bruder
Here is a solution: They can force the companies to decrypt chat data and track it. But they can't force users not to encrypt their messages. Do what the military did during the world wars when sending messages, encrypt it. Create an app that will use whatsapp to send the person you are talking to a public key, they send you theirs, then you talk to each other using that encryption. We can send whatever message we want to each other, so we can just encrypt it.
they force ISPs to prevent data packages forwarding throught internet with firewall, if it's not using backdoored encryption.
@@kanansnyder3700 Good point. What I mean is literally sending your encrypted message directly as a regular message in whatsapp. You use another app on your phone to send and read whatsapp messages.
@@rumplstiltztinkerstein that would work for a while, until the laws stricken again. eventually they just ban users from using own encryption. could use code language or steganography. but in the end AI would detect that too.
@@kanansnyder3700 It would be a good thing if they did that. People would be more aware of how much is read about what they say.
Encryption is useless if they spy on you at the CPU level. Everything you type will be captured before it's encrypted and sent to a company or government data center for analysis (or maybe your device does the work for them and only sends data if it finds something it doesn't approve of).
And this comes right as Discord updates its terms of service to where they basically admit they go full Stasi mode about everything you upload to their web service. Just wonderful.
What did discord do? I didnt update myself yet
oh heres another recent fun fact: discord had a little language change for what counted as CSEM too, compare it to the old one youll notice they removed “cub” from the description.
governments keep using the "think of teh chilluns" excuse, because people are stupid enough that it keeps working
It is funny how much they implement policies in other areas that actively harm children, and they know it.
Maaan... your humor is so underrated *"throw in some usbs with Mint in the cartel shipments"* lmaaooo
The black in him gave him humor, the white in him gave him tech savviness.
i think we need to worry more about kids going to drag shows instead of online
That line of thinking is against EU policy.
I've thought a lot of bad regulation in this space comes from a lack of understanding the internet.
But clearly we're at a point where it's just bad intentions.
The idea of the tech companies having to implement hash or AI scanning for CP remains so incredibly appealing precisely because the governments wouldn't have to lift a finger or pay a cent for that. If random trolls can catch p@dos as easily as you can catch plants police could do it too, but good old honest police work costs money.
They would only be using it for CP, surely they don't have ulterior motives
Honestly people who say "think of the children" bs excuse probably enjoy cp
Yes, police could do it too, but it would be entrapment, not "good old honest police work".
the police are extremely lazy and don't do shit , also laws in europe are very permissive to c abuse, in Germany the age of consent is 14 and there is legal prostitution and poor women are trafficked all the time, paedos get very low sentences etc they don't care about csam it's all a excuse.
@@lorekeeper685 Or worse.
It looks like in 2077 everyone will be hosting his own instance of matrix.
this is so much more an educational problem than anything else. putting back doors into any system has never helped before
They can't ban open source, but they can make it difficult to develop and acquire it.
Mofos couldn't ban torrent.... imagine thinking they can even try
Brb, acquiring the Linux kernel
Where there's a will, there's a way. If drugs are still flowing, despite the billions of dollars to stop them, so will software.
Don't worry guys, this law will never get through, like 70% of proposed laws by the EU
Most laws everywhere don't get passed though
You know what law got through? Article 13.
Never say never
@@artman40 yeah, but the directives given by the EU are jokes for everyone, article 13 should have been implemented in the members laws 2 years ago but nobody did it yet, because it's virtually impossible, same for this one if it gets through
W T F! This is messed up, and this needs to be addressed publically, and those responsible held accountable for.
If this law of surveillance of chat messages gets approved. It will take away all our privacies and strip us from our basic human rights. The right to privacy and a private life will be lost forever.
Finally its getting more attention outside of the EU. I am really planing of renting a vps outside of the EU just to self host a VPN, where these Laws doesn't applay. But the problem is, that you can not expect realisticly everyone to self host a VPN. So this needs more and more attention. Only when the masses are fighting against this, we can at least hope, that the eu parliament recognises the mass attention of this. Lets hope, that the Most Polotitians vote against the law and for a non-survailance state
I think it should be the citizens controlling every politician's chat.
Unless they prefer to allow direct democracy as a less embarrasing option 🤭
What if we made bots that spammed hundreds of messages to each other a minute. Just make them spam complete gibberish and deploy them on as many messaging apps as possible to overload their scanning system.
Schmoney
Inference workloads don't take much compute power. Wouldn't take as much power as you'd think to screen all of those text messages. You'd probably overload the network via DDoS before you'd overload the text inference cluster.
@@noname-gp6hk Hmm. What about if these bots also sent high-resolution images. Maybe a giant folder full of AI-generated images. Maybe that would make it a little confusing for the scanning software since AI images have imperfections? What about thousands of bots all sending images and videos nonstop somehow. Surely there's something that could at least give their scanning software a struggle?
@@Nexalian_Gamer ai generated images would require more processing, maybe just a modified noise algorithm
@@mitchellcouchman1444 why not training a generator model on Child Problem and then generate petabytes of degenerate content to lure the algorithm
The UK govt. is considering a similar proposal with their Online Safety Bill.
The UK is already a police state and a 5th world country
The UK left the eu in name only
All the Anglo countries are digging their own grave. Cananda, Australia and the U.K are all becoming totalitarian nightmares. And the U.S might one day fall too.
Anybody got meshtastic and some walkie talkies
Anyone here raise carrier pigeons?
It's rare to find someone online that still has a moral compass and lives by it. Don't ever change lad
Morals are fake, and I'll never care about them I use logic[real logic]
@@thoticcusprime9309 "real logic" - your Dunning Kruger talking
@@SkyForceOne2 your NPC is talking
We all complain about China but we're slowly conditioned to become like them. It blows my mind how people can ignore this "small" changes that bring us to a bigger picture. People forgot about article 11 and article 13 but they are still a thing. The moment there is a bit of unrest you can bet your dollar they will use it to enforce those laws
How else would you "protect democracy" if not by eliminating it?
The authorities always liked using salami tactics in order to impose rules that are in line with the agenda of the global power elite.
@@ceu160193Your vote never mattered anyways what’s the points
The EU doesn't follow any constitution. It does not even follow it's own. Hitler and Stalin was more democratic than the EU - in soviet and germany the politicans actually lived in the country.
Parents baby-proofing things is fine, but if you're a overlord trying to peep in everyone's business and labeling what you're doing as "Protection", you're going to be looked at as the creeper sneaking towards a minecraft player's house.
Ah yes, non elected officials making decisions of an entire continent. I LOVE it.
UK left for a reason. The rest of the states need to follow suit and get the fuck out too.
Gotta love that EU """democracy"""...
Its literally just a proposal fuckhead
@@derschredder7612 ok Merkel
ikr, the us is weird
Was ranting on this the other day. 😆 Glad to see others cover it. UK recently proposed making encryption on phones illegal. Insanity. Think it says something about politicians more than anything. 🙄
Damn, the line at the end hit harder than Qinghai floods.
Remember that guy that sent pictures of his child to their doctor over gmail at the doctor's request because of the child's condition and he got arrested?
I'm sure nothing like that could ever happen under this law.
If I were the EU, attempting to force people to use apps and OS's that were backdoored, I'd demand that all new phones refuse to execute unsigned code, or code not signed using an EU authorization key, at the hardware level.
Wonder how long that would work before the EU authorization key was leaked.
I would literally move out of the eu
@@noname-gp6hk A year or two. Sooner, for people to figure out how to substitute the chip for one that didn't care, while saying all the proper things when queried.
well and it's increasing chance of hackers intercepting people's communication data.
Screw that, im sending dank memes using tin cans on a string take that goverment!
memes sent by telepathic connections with your homies
@@itsdokko2990 Makes a new coding language.
Get rattlegram or ribbit and send text memes...or get yourself serval mesh
Train your own post pigeons but even then big gov would annouce some bird flu or other made up reason to attack anything they can't control. It's all about narcissistic levels of control, totalitarian regimes are built on control.
ChatControl has been appearing every so often since 2018 or so and every time it's brought up in the EU Parliament it fails miserably
Honestly, I think the point you made at the very end of the video is one of the most solid. And I think it should go for more than just the government.
How’s the Threadripper holding up ?
It struggles a bit to render real t shirts on a deepfake AI but it's managed for 3 videos now
I'm not 100% if this is confirmed but Louis Rossmann had a video where he showed a security researcher having his files scanned and sent to apple despite not using iCloud, so it seems like all apple devices already aren't safe regardless if cloud usage, even local files get zucc'ed
This is a dangerous path to censorship.
At this point the "think of the children" is just a meme for me. Everyone who still genuinely believes that excuse is doomed... 😂
First it's encrypted chats, then it's the VPN's.
Oh EU, not looking like a Saint either 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
NOOOO, Now the EU goverment will know that i'm a furry
the government wont kill furriys they want everyone to be mentally insane so they gona make everyone a furry
... And so do we. Congratulations, you played yourself.
and pedophile
@@wisbilt1650 whoooooooosh
@@wisbilt1650 you're a dumbass lmao
This is what happens when government replaces family. The destruction of nuclear family and caring parents that should be stopping their kids from going online has been a disaster to human race
Time to sue the EU for GDPR infringement.
Outlaw, you're so astronomically based. I swear I will install Mint soon, I just need to partition my 4TB NVME ssd first and then I'll do it, I swear
Why tf lmao
@@lain9719 Bro I swear just today I booted up my PC and even though I ran a shell script to delete all telemetry and globohomo shit, I now have the 'update windows' thing in the corner. This tells me that there's some fuckery afoot.
I do plan on buying another 4TB nvme ssd since I am a digital hoarder and I am anti-censorship, so I will be sure to install Mint onto that. I really want to escape MS shit but it's hard
@@lain9719 I truly hope so. I can't use Windows much longer.
I hate Bill Gates so much that sometimes I can not sleep.
@@PatchCornAdams723 use LTS version of Windows. It's a stripped down version of regular version. Good samaritans at r/piracy will help you know how to get it.
@@lain9719 I’m still new to linux so I may have misunderstood, but I thought windows updates can screw up your grub by having the windows boot manager overwrite grub so you can’t boot into linux but i don’t think it just decides to erase partitions… though I wouldn’t be surprised lol, I decided to not take the chance and put them on separate drives anyways
I remember a long time ago in Canada, W5 tried to do their own Catch A Predator show. They "caught" a predator and got the police involved. The cops ended up saying it was entrapment since the child in the scenario wasn't real.
* Let me be clear, Lamer J's precedent referenced in the case law I provided was established in *1988.* Even if the police made that statement on entrapment prior to 2010, our law on the matter was clearly contrary to them at that time.
(edit: formatting; comment-initial asterix made a lot of text bold)
...on the off chance citing case law is bad, I'll just claim that entrapment could not be argued there.
There is a way to put a data scanner into motherboards. Basically, no matter what system you will have or what programs you use it will be able to scan it all. I am 100% sure they will use this approach.
As well as the CPU and GPU
Read about Intel MINIX
@@marioalexanderski9598 Yes, I think for at least a decade now, CPU manufacturers have put code into their products that can take control of PCs. It could easily be used to only allow approved OSes to boot. As an end user there's nothing you can do, except use open source hardware, but even in that case you can't make your own CPU from scratch so you have to trust the manufacturer.
when this became public, even child protection ngos said that this is stupid
I work in IT company that has huge branch in Russia and they all transforming to Linux forks and open source sql due to sanctions. Government and other businesses as well.
Good on them.
Meanwhile EU:
Please remind me again which one is supposed to be so called free and open society and which one is big brother government that will track your every move : D if this law gets even close to passing I would start to have my doubts that EU is actually first one.
That footage at the end triggered some anxiety lol. Police bodycam footage of someone's final moments of life, watching realtime as the officers rationalize amongst themselves the murder they are about to perform.
The dude could just drop the knife..... Walking around in Public with a knife is not a justified thing to be doing.
Having it locked up and concealed away and at the same time also having a legitimate purpose for it is the only situation in which you can justify the cause to need to carry a knife in a built up residential/urban setting.
I'm more anxious about people like you who don't understand how dangerous a knife is. Look up knife and gun training for officers. The actual lethal range of someone close enough to sprint at you is a very low margin.
They also used non-lethal weapons. You are such a baby.
What, they should just let him walk away? "Oops, he's walking away, I guess that we can't arrest him now"? Real life is not a schoolyard game. Also, he is alive and well, you utter jackass.
"New policy" Bro we are fighting against this crap for *years* now.
Also they´re pretty much doing similar stuff already, at least here in Germany. They just don´t tell you but the hurdles to actually surveil or read out someones connections, mails, Ip adresses, etc. are terrifyingly low for law enforcement.
Plus the "think of the children" approach didn´t work here either. Gov made a crime (instead of an offense) out of possessing certain illegal material, no matter the circumstances. So if somebody would send you such material unasked, the case can´t be dropped anymore and *must* by law be dragged out into a public court case, even if you never heard of that person before. Sure you likely get ruled innocent, but your job, your family and your live savings are all gone at that point.
Oh and did I mention since they also use automated reporting systems now, cases skyrocketed by 40% up to 200% depending on the state and most suspects are minors themselves? Yeah. That´s how you protect the children. lol