1974 New Jersey Open
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$50,000 NEW JERSEY OPEN
Edison Lanes, Edison, N.J., Aug 9-13, 1974
A Reprise From Carmen
Carmen Salvino withstood a strong closing rush by Don McCune to win the $50,000 New Jersey Open at Edison Lanes.
Salvino topped his fellow Chicago-area bowler, 208-192, in the championship game, after McCune had steamrollered three opponents to get to the final match.
For Salvino, it was Professional Bowlers Association (PBA) career win number 12, his first since winning the $85,000 Lincoln-Mercury Open at New Orleans during the winter of 1973.
Both player; spared twice to open the title game. Then Salvino doubled in the third and fourth frames and added three more in the seventh, eighth and ninth frames and McCune just couldn't catch up.
TELEVISED FINALS
Pos. Name, City/State Total Amount
1 Carmen Salvino, Chicago, Ill. 208 (1 game) $5,000
2 Don McCune, Munster, Ind. 927 (4 games) 2,900
3 Marshall Holman, Medford, Ore. 177 (1 game) 2,400
4 Joe Berardi, New York, N.Y. 184 (1 game) 2,000
5 Don Johnson, Akron, Ohio 187 (1 game) 1,900
PLAYOFF RESULTS-McCune defeated Johnson, 227-187; McCune defeated Berardi, 253-184; McCune defeated Holman, 255-177, and in the championship game Salvino defeated McCune, 208-192.
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Called Carmen the old man here in '74. THE MAN IS STILL WITH US!!! Unbelievable 👍
that makes him, what 84 years old? It doesnt surprise me, my understanding is that he has always had a healthy ethic, worked out, took lots of vitamins, etc. Has, along with Don Johnson, been my favorite bowler from when i started watching in 70.
He’s 90 now. Born in 1933.
@@lanceallington9175 is he a vet? Thank you,he and Teata Simez were always my favorites, along with Jim Stefanich
I wonder what Salvino thinks of these 2 handers? He was never shy about voicing his opinion....lol.
This took place at Edison Lanes, in NJ. On my forum board, someone wrote me about their experience and memories about Edison Lanes. It's very interesting. So please read on: I basically grew up in Edison Lanes. I worked there as a young kid and got paid in free bowling because I was too young to get a SS card. The center started out with 66 lanes and later another 56 were added. The building was 1/8 mile long and the parking lot accommodated over 1000 cars.
sounds like a good site for a pba tournament in the 1970s lol
Who was the grouchy old janitor who was always trying to keep the kids in line
I remember trying to copy the Tom Swales walk
Carmen Salvino is a Legend 👍👍
Kinda gotta wonder how many people were watching this tournament. HBO was in its earliest years. They only had a few thousand subscribers, all of which in one region of Pennsylvania. They were still a couple years removed from their first George Carlin special, still hadn't started broadcasting via satellite, didn't have 24-hour programming. Pretty amazing how far they've come.
Yeah I was surprised seeing they were the network for this. Like you said, they've come a LONG way. Grew up watching early 80s horror on HBO
I have started from the top of this website to the bottom of all the tournaments posted. I want to thank mrbowling300 for all the work posting these events. They brought back a lot of great memories from the glory days of PBA bowling on broadcast television and also cable as evidenced by the ESPN and now HBO broadcasts.
carmen salvino really is a living legend!!! hell of a bowler and a better person!!!
It was a real pleasure to see this video from 1974. I finally got to see Holman as a very young man. I wasn't aware that HBO ever sponsored a PBA championship. My daily knowledge of bowling history for today.
This was a historic event in many ways what with "Joey" Berardi and Marshall Holman being on the telecast. Salvino was prophetic in his insights and predictions about them after winning the tournament. Skee Foremsky is(was) a great commentator with his subtle and humorous insights, very knowledgeable to say the least, a great technician of the sport.
Skee would have made a perfect guest star on Odd Couple tv show
Thanks, Mr. Bowling -- my favorite decades of the telecasts are the 70's and 80's and I love watching these again. Please keep it up!
Thanks Mr Bowling these are great love the late 70s and early 80s, worked at an alley 83-87 they closed was brunswick 32 lanes looked like this house but was blue and white, didnt know how to bowl when I started left with a 190 ave good times.
Great show ! Thanks for uploading this mrbowling 300 ! Great ending, Carmie being Carmie, and loved his commentary .... a one of a kind bowler and very entertaining .... also very prophetic concerning Marshall and Joey Berardi .... as to Don McCune ... first thing that came to my mind was the "soaker"ball that he made famous .... who knew this would be the forerunner to the reactives we have today !
The storyline are a plenty with this video....legends of that present day, and future with Holman and Berardi, Dick Stockton on the call for HBO circa '74! McCunes soaker..just a gem of a video.
A lot of people seeing this clip are going to be surprised that HBO stands for "Home Box Office" (most Americans think they're initials that mean nothing) and that HBO actually existed as far back as 1974 (it first went on the air in 1972).
Most people think HBO began in the early 1980's.
Kept score at this tournament, was friends with Danny Whitehurst and his wife Heddy. I was sitting in the next set of lanes talking with Chuck Pizzano, who told me Salvino would win.
Just saw my friend Heddy, sitting with her daughter. High black hair, and glasses next to the woman in purple.😄
Thank you, Mr. Bowling. I relaxed and watched the entire broadcast just like it were live. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that all five bowlers are in the PBA Hall of Fame. Quite a show. Thank you so much for posting this!!!!
Best wishes to Dick Stockton on his retirement from sportscasting after a 55 year career!
Most famous from his Carlton disk home run in game 6 in 1975 World series
Many a memorable call....such a familiar voice.
Berardis first telecast, eh? What an eclectic mix! This is gonna be GOOD
Isn't it? Lots of storylines here. A treat for any old timey bowling fan.
My family was one of the first to have HBO in our town and I don't remember them televising bowling,wow!!
My God, look at Joey B. He's so young! Never saw the HBO telecasts, so glad I get to enjoy them now. Thanks, Mr. Bowling. TH-cam's a better place with you here; I really mean that.
As does Holman - so strange to see them at this stage of their life. But Salvino was right - they got whipped that day but great things would lie ahead for them. Holman would win the ToC in a couple years and Berardi would win one of his own in another decade. Both of them had tremendous careers.
mr. bowling...you are the best...thanks for posting...i loved it...reliving pba history
HERE HERE! SECONDED!
Thanks Keith! Was always wanting to see Carmen Salvino in this tourney. :D
The place really rocked back then. After it closed I went back once and drove around the back of what is now a Shop Rite grocery and several other retail stores, I noticed that the original shell of the building is still intact. They apparently just remodeled and and filled all the spaces.
People have said that Pete Weber has the most “pure” style of any bowler but I don’t know how that can be when he flails around at the line like his dad. I tend to think there’s a group of three bowlers any of which would qualify for the title: Nelson Burton Jr., Johnny Petraglia and Carmen Salvino. I base that belief on their rock-solid approach and statuesque presence at the line which results in excellent shot repeatability. If people ask me who my favorite bowler is I can’t help but say Earl Anthony-especially after I watched him throw that 156 and comment on how he hates this game. He’s just like us! If somebody were to ask me who they should follow as an example though I would tell them Carmen Salvino and especially Nelson Burton Jr.
I never realized what a bull Bo Burton was when I was young. Hes built like a tree stump. Kind of off topic, but I remember thinking Mike Durbin was a boring straight ball weakling when I was young....revisiting all these old bowling vids here in the past few years, I realize Durbin was a bulldog hardass who was as solid as they made em. Like Bo Burton, he was simple, straightforward and just bulldog af. Good stuff.
Carmen made Albanians proud! Honk honk 👃.
You are absolutely 100% correct.
Carmen Salvino puts a tremendous amount of roll on the ball.
Being a long time bowler for many decades, I looked up Carmen’s info on Wikipedia, it is amazing how he managed to get through the Great Depression, and the story is remarkable on how he became a bowler plus some other stuff. Look it up!
Glad you enjoyed the show! Yes, they are all hall of famers!
The original owners were 2 brothers, Jim And Tom Swales, Tom was the mayor of Edison around 1960, a really nice guy. They also owned Best Block which is where all of the cinder blocks came from and built the outside shell of this immense building.
3 of my all time favorites vs 2 young ones i didnt root for. For me this is pure gold. Pretty much a last hurrah
When you said the camera man was focused on an entirely different rack I was expecting to be seeing something in the audience....LOL.
I caught that
The largest league I remember was 36 teams and the Middlesex County Major League was just to the left of us and had 30 teams, so together they filled up the original 66 lanes. The thing I ember the most was how heavy the cigarette smoke was!
When the additional 56 lanes were added I remember that there was a waiting list for lanes every Saturday night.
I bowled in a house with 60 lanes, and our league had 38 teams and the other league had 22 which filled the house! With that large a league you didn’t get a chance to bowl against 6 of the teams. The cigarette smoke was tremendous, standing on lane 1, looking down towards lane 60 through a grey haze!
Soaker indeed! McCune's ball sounds like a cantaloupe when it hits the pins!
Doesn't the PBA do a Hardness test on all equipment ?
When I first saw that comment I was like WTH? But then I remembered lol. Remember mostly him and the yellow dot. For the guy with the testing comment. They do now! Lol mostly because of McCune!!
I'm 74 from New Jersey and I loved watching the greats back then. It was funny to hear the announcer mention that Don Johnson was taking " pain pills " because of his ring finger problem! That's a little more than I need to know!!😂😂😂
Update on inflation adjusted prize: to find the inflation adjusted equivalent of the prize money for September 2018, multiply the winnings by 5.4. So, Joe Berardi won $10,800 in today's money, Carmen Salvino won $27,000. The best thing about tournaments back then is the minimum money for anyone who cashed was probably $900, worth about $4900 today. That's way better than pro bowling today. Back then, just cashing every week gave you a great living.
Thanks, mrbowling300. I did not know that HBO ever had the PBA. I also didn't know that Dick Stockton ever announced on PBA broadcasts. Does anyone know why HBO used the camera shot they did? Instead of showing the ball go down the lane, the bowler releases the ball, and there's a close-up of the ball hitting the pins.
How many years did HBO broadcast the PBA tour?
Skee Foremsky
Year Inducted: 1992
Category: Veterans/Senior
Foremsky began on Tour in 1961 and bowled full-time from 1965-76. His peak years were from 1966-70, when he ranked among the top 20 in earnings and accumulated five of his six PBA titles. In 1970 he earned $33,198, which ranked him eighth on the yearly list. That year he won the Wichita Open and finished second to fellow Hall of Famer Dave Davis in the San Jose Open. During his career Foremsky earned $247,073.
I think that Holman kid has a bright future! I can see he developed his edgy attitude progressively over the course of his career. He was actually very gracious here.
Yeah, he didn't kick the foul lane light in this telecast!
It's not TV: It's HBO! I love these old shows. You get to see the bowlers and announcers more down home rather than all this packaged stuff on PBA on Fox that you see now. Those were the days
Very cool. I had no idea HBO had bowling broadcasts back in the day. Thanks for the upload!
This is fantastic! TY Mr. Bowling 300!
The graphics are really cool and obviously smoking was the thing to do as I noticed the guy with the white sports jacket beside the blonde in the yellow dress lit one up during a game!
When it came to bowling telecasts,ABC was the king!
Chris and Bo
@@rockvilleraven Great memories listening to those two! Chris was the GOAT!
@@vikings844 Second best was.when NBC covered part of the PBA tour with Jay Randoph and Earl Anthony as the Analyst
Don McCune held 8 PBA titles during the time of this tournament. How many of those titles were legitimate?
Not a fan of McCune. Did dorky gyrations after a strike. Didn't have the talent of any of the others on the telecast. But had a soaker.
Bloody hell you can see why HBO didn't hold on to this long, see Don Johnson's shot around the 7:18 mark, the camera man was focused on an entirely different rack! But all in all a great upload as we get to see a young Holman and Berardi.
The same Dick Stockton who would call the 1975 World Series for NBC!!!
HOME RUN!
He was the Red Sox announcer at the time. NBC also had Marty Brennanman from Reds also call that great World Series.
Just looking at that Marshall kid you can tell we wouldn't hear much from him again.
Amazing show 👍
I wonder how many people had HBO in 74
Earl Anthony was the best ever bowler of the world. do you agree????
wrw
Absolutely!
He was the top of the heap among the elites. However, Barry Asher would hold that title if you asked the top pros back then. Carmen Salvino once stated that had Barry Asher not developed the starting problem he would've been in the #1 spot instead of Earl Anthony.
I met Earl Anthony at the Denver Open in 1981 at Celebrity Sports Center and got his autograph. He has always been one of my favorite pros, one of the best.
Earl was the best, all class and sportsmanship. All these drama queens that bowl today ruin it for me.
@syntonik....such was the demise of a lot of bowling alleys from back then.
@thunderfan I was saying the same thing. I had no idea HBO broadcast bowling. Great upload.... 300!
Camera man on the wrong lanes! Omg things were bad back in the day!!
The HBO bowling shows are more personable than the ABC telecasts, though both are good.
Dunno about that!!! This was great, but to me, you totally can't beat Chris Schenkel and Nelson Burton!
The first time McCune sticks at the line, it looked like his head was behind his slide foot, which led to a weight transfer to the heel, hence early braking and sticking at the line.
Interesting to note the physical similarity of Don McCune's game to Tommy Hudson's a few years later. May be my imagination.
can anyone tell me about the previous week they were talking about wherein Burton came from way back to beat Anthony? I want to see what happened VERY badly
At 1:40 Dick says they will be bowling on 14 and 15. That's not a pair of lanes, all pairs start with an odd number on left side.
Maybe they were superstitious and didn't have a #13 ?
The plastic ball era!
3 years before HBO debut inside the nfl
Carmen Salvino was 17-9 lifetime in championship matches.
Don McCune, 8-8.
Don Johnson, 26-17.
Marshall Holman, 22-31.
Joe Berardi, 10-6.
Looking at mccune’s record, it doesn’t really scream “hall of famer.”
Add in the fact that he had an advantage in many of his wins, well, what were the decision makers thinking.
Elected to the Veterans Category, McCune was the 1973 PBA Player of the Year. He was victorious six times in '73, winning back-to-back titles twice and he led the Tour in earnings with $69,000. All totaled he won eight times during his career. Inducted into USBC Hall of Fame in 2013.
How in the world did you manage to get something from this early in HBO's history? It wouldn't even broadcast by satellite for another year, for crying out loud. Was it even seen nationwide at this point?
Their sports coverage was rough to say the least. The camera actually pointed to the wrong lane at one point. (Sorry--failed to notice that someone already made note of it).
Where did HBO Sports get these cameramen did not even taking note of the shots or anything like that
Gone! It's been gone for many years
did Mr. Salvino, Holman, Berardi all buy their belt and britches from the same pro shop? good grief, identical
Haband
@@tonyvincent9753 is that the brand? were they sponsoring, free belts and britches for top 5…or more?
I wonder if vic wound up in carmen's trunk after all ..😅
Look how young Dick Stockton is in 1974.
McCune hooking a White Dot with the pin above the fingers ... that ball was definitely doctored ... probably acetone.
DC Sports Nope. It wasn't acetone. He used Methyl Ethyl Ketone. if he used acetone, he would have dissolved the ball.
@@douglasharris5216 Acetone doesn't dissolve polyester. I'm not sure from where you got that. rfelektronik.se/manuals/Datasheets/solventguide.pdf
DC Sports I did a search on mccune and his antics to see what he used to soften his equipment
@@douglasharris5216 I believe he used MEK since that was well before the VOC restrictions came into effect. But I personally used acetone and it never dissolved a polyester bowling ball. I never tried it on urethane because alcohol worked perfectly well on urethane.
Berardi and Holman? Age 19? Still looking for their first wins? Wow!
The early days of HBO. Still working out the kinks.
Joey Berardi 👍👍
When the players found out about the soakers, almost every motel bathtub had chemicals and caused a problem with the players and the motels.
"Don's hand was hurting so bad he got a bottle of percocets from the doctor and is high af right now as we saw him crush up and snort 5 of em so he could bowl the finals".....:translation 😀
Did Edison lanes become Carolier? Or were they two different lanes?
2 different places
Torn down, so was mid-state bowl and Caroline’s no longer exists, I believe
I live in the area, so I am familiar with both places. Edison Lanes closed in 1986. It is now a shopping center with a Shop Rite as anchor store, along with other stores and businesses on the property. Carolier Lanes, which hosted the Johnny Petraglia Open for a decade beginning in the early 1990's as well as several U.S. Open tournaments and other large events, was acquired by Bowlero a few years ago and is a part of the Bowlero chain. That establishment has 82 Lanes. It is divided into two distinct "houses": Upstairs Lanes 1-48 and Downstairs Lanes 49-82 (added on after the original building was constructed). Totally different lanes, like having two bowling alleys under one roof. Bowlero redid the upstairs similar in appearance to their other locations. Slick, modern décor and amenities. The downstairs looks like a traditional bowling center. The thing is that these two mammoth bowling complexes were only ten minutes apart on Route 1. So you had almost 200 bowling lanes (194 to be exact) within a very close proximity of each other! Those days are long gone, unfortunately.
@@chucklou7216 As per my other post: Edison Lanes closed in 1986 and is now a shopping center anchored by Shop Rite and other stores. Mid State Bowl in East Brunswick closed in 2007 and was converted into a gym owned by a large corporation. Carolier Lanes in North Brunswick never closed and is now part of the Bowlero chain.
@@josephpapai5867 didn’t know carolier lanes, thanks for the info
I wonder if McCune gave his ball a nice acetone bath immediately prior to this tournament…LOL 😈
Don RIP Pauline RIP [sister]
Rolling on lanes 14 and 15.lol old school buda
27:34 JERSEY SQUASHER!!!
Yeah sorry to get your hopes up, even if it was so, women covered up properly in those days.
is this bowling alley still open today?
Supermarket
why DO they call Mr. Salvino “Spook”?
@mrbowling300 i have a request for an upload.
columbia yellow dot!!
Really fun to watch. Only complaint is the player interviews between games kind of bogs things down a bit.
1:17:02 look at that replay glitch..lol
Carmie was the best!
holman when he had hair
The Bald Ego.
The leisure suit was a dark period in men's fashion it's a wonder anyone reproduced in the 70's with men looking so damn goofy.
Don McCune's son Eugene has a similar style as his dad, except he throws it faster than anyone in P.B.A.history. Eugene can Fire a Bowling Ball, as if it were a softball!!!!
AND IT SHOWED!! HE SUCKED!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩😎
EDISON LANES WAS THE LARGEST BOWLING ALLEY IN THE U.S.A. 106 LANES AT THAT TIME, ONLY TO BE TOPPED BY SHOWBOAT LANES IN VEGAS LATER ON WITH 110 LANES!!!
Edison had 112 lanes
Earliest footage from HBO you can find.
NO!! I have the first 10 shows EVER ON HBO!! I am the HBO KING!!
On the contrary, this man's only claim to fame (more like infamy) was his success in gaining an unfair advantage over his PBA brethren, becoming the Father of the Soaker. If you knew YOUR history of bowling you would've known that already.
And he’s a hall of famer?
With 8 tainted victories?
What were they thinking?
It’s a shame my boy Richie “The Horn” Hornreich didn’t go out on tour! He was the Greatest Action Bowler of ALL TIME!! He would have obliterated the Competition!! He was the BEST ACTION BOWLER WHEN HE WAS 15-16 years of age!! HE COULD GO IN ANY HOUSE and AVERAGE 200 with either hand using a HOUSE BALL!! That’s GREATNESS PERSONIFIED!!
Yes -- and didn't Berardi do some "Action" too?
BTW, I think Hornreich did do 1 PBA tournament (just 1), didn't do too well and that was it.... not sure that's all correct, maybe someone can tell us....
Shoulda, coulda, woulda there are millions of those.
@@larchmontmark1NO, HORN NEVER ENTERED A PBA TOURNEY.. HE JUST MADE A LOT OF 💰💰💰 LOCALLY!!
@@dnx112YEA BUT THERE WAS ONLY ONE HORN!! HE WAS THE BEST!!
@@MIKIEEYEZ1975 I don't know, but there's some stuff that says otherwise. Like, a thing by Johnny Petraglia (easily found online) saying that Hornreich did 3 weeks on the tour.
Love the video, but check out the clothes. Almost makes me embarrassed to admit I was alive and wearing things like that. :)
Camera work is terrible
McClune @ 47:04?lol again.os buda
So, it wasn't just my ears....he really did say "L" there.... :)
Dick Stockton!
You are kidding me right! This production was terrible! The producer should have been fired.
Commentators:
Dick Stockton & Steve Furetski
SKEE FORENSKY YOU DOUCHE BAG!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩
STEVE MIZERAK HUNG OUT AT EDISON LANES & HUSTLED POOL THERE!! I REMEMBER MEETING HIM WITH MY FRIEND IN 1976!!
when hbo was actually better