Using marking spray to make custom tumblers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2022
- Making an order of plain stainless tumblers into custom tumblers. I use marking spray and my XTool D1 to get great results. To set the "return to" location, watch this video- • Setting the "return to...
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That is what I call "keeping it simple". Well done. Now I know I can do tumblers.
The fewer steps, the less chance of a mistake.
Good vid. What would be your thoughts on using a glass bead blaster to take off OOPs.
Dave
That would probably work, a sand blaster or bead blaster would also make for a cool finish. I happen to have a sand blaster….
Cool I’m doing my stainless ones now
Nice
Good job! Lucky you live in the US Cermark spray at Amazon in Canada is 73 dollars for 2oz can. Love your videos
Wow, I may need to stock up. That is crazy. Thanks..
Another killer video!!!!
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Awesome info! Subscribed!
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I'm having problems with the image stretching about 2x the size from side to side. Using the Xtool D1 Pro 20 W with the new chuck rotary. Using Lightburn. The diameter is set correctly in Lightburn. Any suggestions? Thanks again for your videos and advice. I'm from the Gadsden, AL area but did see your display at Peach Park the other day. BTW your jigs work great!!!!!
My knowledge of the RA2 is very limited to just what I have learned doing research, I don’t currently have one. Sounds to me that the step measurement needs to be increased. Make sure the settings for the steps is set correctly.
Thanks… the display is probably empty. I haven’t gotten a call to refill it lately
I've watched this a few times now. I'm curious about the vacuum table. I'd love to make something like this work instead of a full enclosure. Is it effective for deep burn engraving and cutting for clearing vapor/smoke?
Its all I use, I do not have scientific equipment to test the air but I can work in the shop with the doors closed and not be sitting in a cloud. I wouldn't mind the blower being larger and have plans to upgrade that part.
Most 5 gallon shop vac are around 100CFM max, I plan to upgrade to a 200 CFM or more fan
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Glad you think so, not sure what you mean by algorithm banged..
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How do you level your tumblers? Seems to be my biggest issue. I have your jig (works great)and I use the hassle 20oz tumblers but have issues keeping them level.
I use spacers to level the rotary and a weight inside. I have more videos explaining. keyword tumbler.
Thank you so much, I went to your affiliate Amazon store. it shows that the tumblers already have the powder coating, does that apply to the silver cups as well? and do I still need to spray again? on top of the powder coat. thank you.
No, coated tumblers are basically stripped of their coating revealing the metal. Only plain stainless requires marking spray. If you want black on coated tumblers, that would be a process.
Enjoy your videos! Saw your other tumbler video and you used a red tumbler. Do you have a stainless tumbler without the paint? I would like to see to compare. Should look fine, right?
I don’t do them without marking spray. It will turn the surface a grey color but it is kinda hard to see. I can maybe do one in the future.
Can you do different colors of engrave with the plan silver. I am hoping to get the machine in Nov
If you are referring to stainless, it will slightly mark without spray but requires spray to leave the darker marks currently the only sprays on the market are black that I am aware of.
Curious why you are not using lightburn for this process?
I ask bc I have the same setup as you and lightburn gave me inconsistent results, I switched back to creative space and haven’t had any issues.
This was back in the laser box basic days. Before I had lightburn figured out, basic was just easy
I’ve been considering trying the ceracoat but it’s quite expensive. How does it compare to how some people are using acrylic or cold galvanizing compound?
No, I started using cermark and the results have been good for me. Never used the other approaches
Have you tried Laser Engraving a multi tool like Leatherman using your marking spray?
I am going to try myself if Amazon order ever arrives. - No 2 day delivery in my part of Oregon.
I have done pocket knives, cooking utensils and large knives. As long as it is good stainless steel, it seems to work great.
Guinee Fowls - Wow
They follow me around and come into the shop to eat cat food.
I have an Ortur LM2 15W. I’m burning at 100/100 and it is slow. What do ya think about speeding it up?
I am not familiar with that particular machine. I suggest a test grid to be sure. If you plan on doing stainless air, it would be worth it. You can always sand it down and recycle.
I have really been struggling with the darkness on my stainless tumblers. I opted to use black laser metal spray from brilliance. I have ordered the Cermark thinking maybe that is the issue. I have played with power and speed settings. In order to get a nice dark image it takes 6-8 hours for a 3”x2” image.
Thoughts?
8 hours? I do these in 15 minutes, what power and how are you doing them?
2 coats of cermark, 70 mm/s at 100% only 1 pass and you will be done in 15 minutes with a 10 watt. I have done lots of them, many in batches of 20 or more.
I’ve used 100 power 70mm and it is very faint. Dropped to 50mm a little darker. 20mm better but still 152 minutes. Right now it’s 306 minutes 100 power 5mm. (240 dpi)
@@steveday805that is with using marking spray? If so you need cermark. Expensive but it works
@@TheClackShack As mentioned, I have ordered the CerMark. The Brilliance laser marking dries as a white powder makes a mess of my rotary. They must not work the same.
How did you set it up to keep the map in tact while you washed the marking off.
Ed
Not sure I am follwing, the burn includes the map and text. Cermark washes off with water if it isn,t part of the burn.
@@TheClackShack So that would be treated as a fill , correct?
@@edmelzark1069 yes, The text will retract from the burned area
Those birds are better than watchdogs!
Yes, they are. Thanks for watching..
Hello I have a question do you have to change the ciconferense and diameter for each cup that are different sizes?
The basic rotary has range settings on each of the width adjustments. You have to use the corresponding setting on the physical machine.
@@TheClackShack sorry to bother you, I'm new to the laser, yes I have the xtool d1 10w, and the new rotary the chuck's and I was checking on it and I see the circumference and diameter if they are different sides I have to change that
@@rigopulido4897 , you need to move the bar to the setting for that size. There should be indicators printed on the rotary
Do you run air assist with your tumbles normally.
Yes, just enough to keep the lens clean
Does the counterweight scratch the inside of the tumbler?
No, it rolls
Have you ever tried etching the tumblers with color. Basically the same tumblers that your link goes to on Amazon, but they are a couple dollars more for the same tumblers with color. Instead of burning the paint, you would be removing the color down to the stainless.
Great videos by the way, just found your videos today when looking for XTOOL videos
Yes, I have done lots of them. Pics on my FB page and here is a video. th-cam.com/video/BXZkLiG6ahk/w-d-xo.html
@@TheClackShack - Thank you. Looking at buying the new D1 Pro with a rotating piece. Will rely on your videos and will buy through your link when the time comes.
@@JoeGalanteTribute , as soon as it gets here. I will be putting it through the paces.
Its hard to tell in the video, but how dark did the black come out? Is there a way to make it very black?
It is black, I use cermark
Do you just buy normal tumblers? Or do they have a coating on them? I purchased a marking spray and it didn’t work, the company told me it didn’t work because my stainless steel tumblers have a “coating” on them?
I use marking spray, should be in the video.
@@TheClackShack it was.. I’m just dumb and jumped the gun and asked before finishing the video ha. I also now know what to do with my bad cups I’ve messed up. Great video! Thank you!
U could add a town name to the side within a star zooming to the location within the state.
These were made for a statewide organization. I have done that on others
How did you make the rotary jig?
Lots of trial and error, I sell it on etsy,
What are your settings?
Should be in the video, this was over a year ago.
How much do you charge if i needed to get some tumblers engraved with a college logo?
I charge $15 per engrave plus cost of tumbler in my area. I only do business logos or custom graphics provided by the customer. I do not provide copyrighted content.
How long did it take per tumbler?
Usually around 15 minutes with the 10 watt, 20 watt is faster.
As I was watching the video when you started the reclamation of the tumbler with the sander, it appears that you aren’t using hear protection of any sort. Hearing loss is cumulative, especially at the higher freqs. and volume as recorded on the video. As one who is now paying the price for years of thinking brief exposure isn’t much to worry about, I won’t even let contractors work without adequate protection.
Thanks
What is the name of your etsy store to purchase your jigs
Clack Custom Creations
if you don't put a sealer on the stainless steel after sanding it back, it will have rust spots. by sanding you removed the coating that is on stainless steel.
Guess I am lucky. It hasn’t rusted after a couple months. I must say that as a child,my dad built stainless steel whiskey stills. We never coated them with anything after welding or grinding them. 30 years later and they still look like new.
It is my understanding that as long as the alloy contains more than 10.5 percent chromium, the reaction between the chromium and oxygen will reform the rust barrier.
@@TheClackShack I must have removed more on mine when I sanded. I don't know how thick the coating on stainless is, I may just need to be more careful on how much I remove, also the one that rusted on me was etched with a fiber laser, so that might be the difference.
@@TheFeist77 , it could have to do with an imperfection in the steel as well.
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Thanks
If u really wanted to make production add another roller to the left/right, front/back and just unload and reloading to the first roller while it’s burning the second cup. Push button and go through the cycle again.
That might be a little overboard, I am content with my method.
100 Dollars for marking spray ha! I’ll pass !!!
Folks do things differently. I make my money back in the first 7 tumblers. I do about 50 with a can. It works for me and makes up time on cleanup.