Why I'm Selling My Rolex Watches, My Problem With Casio, and I Think I Found My Next Grail Watch
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- In today's video I discuss why I'm considering selling some of my Rolex watches. I also share the reasons why I may have discovered my ultimate grail watch, my big problem with collecting Casio watches, and the dangers of wearing a Cartier Santos during a night out with Hugo. In this video I also explore some of the issues watch enthusiasts face in their watch collecting journey, respond to some of your comments from recent videos, and talk about how my recent interview with the world's biggest watch collector, Sandro Fratini, has ultimately inspired some of my collecting priorities. What are your watch collecting goals and how have they changed over time? Please share in the comments!
A special thank you to the one and only @JeffreyMcMahon for his contribution to the watch world and this video.
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Two collecting weak points: 1) Wanting to collect too much of a kind (divers, dress) at the expense of getting other styles you also want or 2) buying doubles/triples of a model (one to rock, one to stock). You always move on to the next thing and ignore the one you stocked. Great video as always!
EXCELLENT comment, deffo guilty of these.
Thank you for sharing that. Hopefully if I get enough responses like this about collecting weak points, I might read them out like I did in this video for a future episode. It could be a fun one.
Best regards,
TGV
My 4 Seiko tuna 1000m strongly disagree 😂
@@MCAIO89 I can easily see that. I used to have the bumblebee and almost bought the retro limited blue edition but decided to sell the bee instead (didn't want to bother with battery changes for the monocoque case). I still have my vintage 300m and wear my Arnie quite a bit as my beater (though it's not really a Tuna, just "Tuna style"). Still have an urge to get another 1000m Tuna but I'm resisting it. So far.
Unless you buy multiple Mission Impossible watches, it's always worth it!!! (A great watch)
@@MCAIO89 yes, my 8 SKX’s second that motion!
Let me start out by saying it's an honor to be in this video. TGV has a singular voice in the watch obsessive journey. He is a true watch obsessive and he has chronicled his personal education with outstanding results on this channel.
🙌🙌🙌 The Maestro has spoken. I am humbled and honored.
Thank you sir!
Best as always,
T.
@@theurbangentry I'm just here to listen and learn. Great content as always.
Jeff, you're Rock Star. Told you so. 😂
This video is definitely gonna bring some subscribers to McMahon’s channel, and that’s awesome!
McMahon is the GOAT.
Still by far the best quality content provider on the TH-cam watch wormhole
Far* typo corrected. That will teach me for logging on at 4:00 AM 🥲
Thank you for continuing to create creative, original content about watches. Your personal views, knowledge in horology, and vast interests shared from the inexpensive to the ultra luxury watch continue to pull in my and many other’s interest. It’s clear how passionate you are about what you do, and the time you put into your work.
10 watches. My limit is ten. Problem is, I seem to have more than 10 watches.
Looking forward to seeing the grail watch sir when you eventually get it. Don't worry too much about not having a massive collection, you make this channel, the watches just add to it 👍. Enjoy the weekend
Thank you my friend, enjoy the rest of the weekend too. O&U! 😎🥂
Best regards,
TGV
This is hilarious you and Rexy clubbing. Great upload as always. 🦖 🎩
Wow, thanks for the mention! I acutally have referred people to Derek!
I picked up a BLNR on oyster back in late-May. It was a watch that I had my eyes on for a while and almost gave up on. In fact, when my AD reached out to me inform me it had arrived, I was in talks with 3-4 other private sellers for other Rolex sport models.
Anyways, I have since sold ALL of my other watches that were in rotation and sold others in the months leading up to the purchase of my BLNR. I have no regrets and I've worn my BLNR everyday for the last 3 months.
Early on this year I identified that my biggest watch collecting weakness is the FOMO created by social media so I nuked my social media accounts and then I sold my small collection of 3 watches to restart my collection. Got me a brand spanking new Blackbay Chrono Panda (first time getting a new nice watch) and have been wearing it as my only watch for almost half a year now.
After going thru the purge, I found that it has allowed me to get to know myself and what I want better as I am no longer focused on what other people are wearing. I’m starting to think that maybe my ideal collection could consist of just two watches: a Coaxial Speedy Professional paired with the BB54 for when I want a dive watch AND a vintage wearing experience. At this point, I really prefer the carefree feeling afforded by new (or near new) watches and the warranty that comes with them.
You have nothing to prove to anybody and no matter the algoritms I am glad to have this channel with great content you produce. Keep on with excellent work, even if you need to reduce quantity
The Prodigy video ref made me laugh so much 😂😂😂
Excellent intro ! Funny as hell. Thanks Tristano to bring some fresh air on the world go watches channel ! cheers from France
Never change TGV. I love your consistency of conviction in the watch world. You may have helped me from going over board in the watch collection. I wear my Seiko Arnie as my everyday, Gshock as my beater, Bulova as a dress watch, Arabic Casio for fun, and a cheap Garmin for running/lifting. I love your channel because you're not trying to convince me to buy something I don't need! I really love your videos about the history of watches, and hope you do more in the future!
I have room for maybe one more watch. If I did, it would be something like a Tudor Black Bay, Rolex Submariner, or Omega Speedmaster. Something to pass down.
sir you are my role model you know how to have fun all by yourself. that is amazing and rare. people need more and you dont
Never stop gifting these amazing videos to us 💛
Another great intro with Hugo!
I have the same dilemma with my knife collection. I'm looking for my "grail" knife, but anytime I reach it, a new "grail is coming next. :D But yeah, if I want a new one, 2-3 pieces must go. And yes, Casio it's a must.
Really enjoyed the video, many thanks for the information and enjoyment! 🙏🏻
I don't know alot about watches, i wouldn't even consider myself a collector or hobbyist; as far as i'm concerned i'm just 'a man that owns a watch'.
Your videos are not only informative about watches, but also about many other things. The concept of brand dilution puts into words frustrations i've long held with unintegritous actors in other fields that interest me. I appreciate, on your part, the genuine effort in stimulating your audience mentally. - I have a question. How are soviet army surplus watches regarded in the watch world? I've seen some for sale that look very visually appealing, and i like the idea of wearing a piece of history. And how would i go about ensuring the authenticity of such a watch?
Thanks.
Everytime I think I´m done with watches, you pull me back in.
thanks a lot TVG - amazing video
Greatest intros on TH-cam, bar none
Absolutely brilliant. Dancing Hugo😂
A DD-36 and a Black Submariner is all one needs. Maybe an OP39, Airking or Milgaus for the weekends
That intro was fire! hahaha
Always a good day when you upload!♥️
Great show as usual 👏 i was actually thinking of buying a rolex explorer 🤔
I love Hugo. More Hugo! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hi TGV! Fantastic intro. If you come around to parting with your Explorer I'd happily buy it. Had to sell my subbie a few years ago... (Long story.) Rolexless for this long is a bummer, once already having had one on the wrist.
I absolutely love TGVs videos and I have been a fan since the beginning.
That intro was amazing 😂
Love your content! My favorite watches to collect are San Martin. Cheers!
Another cracking intro! Some of the best in the business.
TGV great content as usual. I have a watch collection that is in no way expensive but heart felt. It have a smattering of Casio and Sieko among others which I enjoy and wearing them produces a smile on MY dial. My grail is a SKX which I'll get one day but recently I bought a 1968 Timex Marlin which I think is stunningly cool and will wear to my neices wedding very soon. It is in no way an expensive watch but it has a look I adore. My first watch was a Bulova from my Father that has sadly been lost in a messy divorce and my next was a cheap Timex gold coloured watch which has also disappeared in the same way but I was taken with the Marlin as it evoked those two. I ramble but I truely enjoy your honest passion (and truely weird intros LOL) I wish you well and your continued success.
Fears? Understated beautiful British sophistication. Oh, suits you sir.
Your grail watch is Romain Gauthier but not sure which one if my memory helps me it’s also a perpetual calendar and or tourbillon
Great show.Dont have seller remorse..Never sell what you can't easily replace.eg.TudorSub.Seiko Flietmaster so on and so forth..What did Hugo borrow after he said mezcal
Yes I'm a Hugo fan.Dont be a rotter
Your gold omega is the style that became a childhood grail.stunning design. 007 got me started Connery sub is my got me started grail
Thank you for sharing your journey.
First of all , a very enjoyable introduction ! a great sense of humor.
I like to keep my collection to about 5 or 6 , I have 2 pieces I will keep and pass onto my sons , and a few others I flip now and then . I find this more manageable and non stressful . I hope you find a your grail and are satisfied when you do .
Thank you for your intelligent, informative videos. 60 years ago by chance I needed a watch so I bought an old Seiko automatic at a pawn shop in Chicago, it lasted a long time, I didn't know Seiko from Shinola. I have about 14 watches in my collection, mostly Seiko and a few Casio's. Also a few Seiko Clocks. In many ways I feel more European than American. I always learn something by viewing your videos. I agree don't buy from the gray market. Better to spend a few extra bucks and not worry about getting ripped off. Best, Cheers, Michael in Montana
Another good video, thank you for doing what you do. My watch knowledge would be so much lower (and my enjoyment of the hobby I think) had I not found your channel. On a side note, keep ALL the Casios! Buy more! They're so much fun, why not?
Great show! I've been watching since the very first days of the channel. It must be both satisfying and frustrating that TGV can also suffer from the "TGV effect" when buying watches for his own collection.
I love your shenanigans with Hugo always a blast ha ha ha .If I had to guess your grail watch might be a F.P. Journe, Charles Frodsham maybe Chopard these brands seems to be more in your wheel house from what I seen from your style or a Germen watch very much you maybe the wild card Grand Seiko. As always a pleasure to watch see you next time
Great video - congratulations.
On the other hand if u keep the watches a year or two more your money is safe because they are safe from the volatility and fluctuations in Currency value and we are going into very tough times now.
The Casio point is one I struggle with as well. I've tried to stick to the "one watch per brand" thing since I started collecting but I made a mental exception for Casio so that I could have my G-Shock and also get a calculator watch for the old school nerd charm. Well, now I have Casio number three on the way, an A1000 model that I'm going to be putting on a Vario leather strap as some sort of weird digital dress watch type thing. I keep a very small collection, at some point I feel like it's going to be half Casio.
Don't beat yourself up for having multiple watches from one brand. Some brands have some drastically different models that warrant having that brand overlapping.
Lovely video- TGV, I wonder if your grail watch is the Breguet Classique 7147- just a thought! I think this watch is in my top 5 of all time! Hopefully one day I can sport it myself. Onwards and upwards!
Damn i love the intro so much😂
TGV you are absolutely the best at this watch game ...Hugo is a bad influence on you.🤣
Casios are great .I love em.
Hope you are better now , must have been annoying taking meds every 4 hours .
I lost the urge to buy more watches after I realised that with every new watch I bought, it was taking away wrist time and attention from my favourite watches in the collection. After all, how can you enjoy a watch if you're not wearing it?
Wow, that's a great hairstyle on you. Sick polo too!
Edit: just saw the vintage cartier on wrist. THAT is a grail watch.
Edit 2: don't you DARE sell that explorer
Some have this felling to be searching for new watches apposed to being satisfied with a few truly loved watches?
WOW @theurbangentry your comments saying you are not aware of any watch dealers on TH-cam that are not shady in some kind of way REALLY surprised me. Isn’t Mark from Long Island Watches considered a TH-cam watch dealer? I thought you guys were good friends. Are you saying he also has shady parts to his TH-cam watch business ??
Love your channel btw. I look forward to reading your reply.
Cheers!
Surviving Edged Weapons is a great watch with a few mates and drinks.
One of the things I like about watches and life in general is peoples different opinions, likes and dislikes etc. Bottom line is, who cares, collect what you like, as many as you like, just don't hurt yourself or anyone else to do so.
Personally I have to like how a watch feels on my wrist, I'd rather spend thousands on a watch thats enjoyable to wear than a few hundred on a cheaper alternative. That doesn't mean I'm rich as I certainly am not I just am willing to exchange money for a product. The numbers do matter as I do have a limit above which I'm uncomfortable but as long as I pay a fair market value or close to then I'm happy to spend. But as I say it has to feel good on my wrist, I tried on the Tissot PRX several times and it just feels cheap. So I just cant buy it which is a little annoying as its low price is attractive. I like one of the plastic casios at $150 but its a waste of money imho as I dont think I'd wear it past the first few days. I like the watch to be mechanical, so wouldn't spend a lot on a quartz watch. I like certain manufacturers also. I would try not to double up on a watch design or style if possible. I like the Zenith Pilot 40mm, the Piaget Polo on rubber and the Bulgari Octo Roma on rubber but I'll only get one if I get any as they're too similar. All these things would keep my collection down to a small group. However, unless you look at military watches then the gloves are not only off they're thrown completely out of the room, state, country. Just buy what you like with military watches imho.
Great video T, I'd keep viewing your stuff as longs as its watch related and I dont think you need a collection to do watch reviews, write the contrary. Who wants to see the same watches constantly talked about (see Bark & Jack here). Maybe set up something with that dealer you mentioned, it would promote them and you'd get watches to review. Personally as long as you're objective and everyone knows theres NO payment for your reviews it could work. Or in time maybe you could review other peoples watches as you've done in the past if you get mates with some people from YT??
Interesting points as always. I think my collecting fits another agenda in that I don't feel like I actually own my watches. They will live longer than me. I'm more of a a museum curator. I am streamlining my collection but those that remain will be left as a legacy. Quite a few of my watches are attached to important events in my life which I don't want to abandon until I breathe my last... the point when we all have to let go of everything.
Good luck with the churn.
Please tell us what makes Federico (Delray Watch) and Christian (Theo & Harris) 'shady' 😊
My weak point actually help me having a small collection: it is the money i can reserve for the watches :)
Hugo is the best!
One more Watch, Urban Gentry, and Time Teller are the channels that got me into watch collection. I took my collection far, to my grail watch which is, like many, a Rolex. Yet, I'm always going back to Seiko, they are definitely my Achilles heel for me.
That was the best Hugo introduction ever. Had me laughing out loud 👏👏👏
For me watch collecting has only aided my wellbeing, never hindered it or increased anxiety. I especially enjoy the daily choice of what watch to wear.
I have some that will probably leave the collection, I have sold relatively few to-date, which suggests to me I have tended to put in the research and thinking before making a purchase.
I certainly have others I want to add but I have become much more selective.
In the end I can see my collection plateauing rather than thinning down drastically. But, only if they continue to be a positive aid to my wellbeing and enjoyment.
Thank you so much for what you do 🙏
Great video….seems like there an increasing amount of discussion (both introspective and social) about collecting philosophy lately. I have been thinking more and more about decreasing my collection, although somehow it’s been nonetheless been growing. I am currently going through a Hamilton Khaki phase as they are comparably more affordable than some of my previous “brand overlap” collecting phases.
I just told Jeff yesterday, that he was a Rock Star, and he had to cope with it. Now this, you didn't need to rub it in TGV.
🤣🤣🤣 He is indeed. I can kinda picture him now with long hair in a metal band.
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
My Achilles heel? Early, quantity over quality. Browsing eBay and Mercari. Saving money for higher quality watches is something I'm trying do. I just purchased a Zelos Hammerhead and absolutely love it. I have a more expensive watch I want next but I'm trying to wait. I hope I can. I need to pare down.
That intro was peak
Have you ever concerned about Urwerk watches? I like them alot.
Hedonic ladder? I love watches and think the only time I'll stop collecting watches is when I'm dead. But I've long realised its like any addiction the insanity that the next watch will make you happier, clearly it doesn't, that explains why second hand luxury watches are everywhere, or people can't afford them. I honestly think having around 3 watches is all you really need, you just can't wear more or get the value from them. I'm trying now to explore a happiness that doesn't relate to superfluous material stuff, nice to have nice things, but there has to be more to life...
I never thought you would fall out of love with your Explorer. Mind you I thought my Apple Watch was indispensable, yet I haven’t worn it for weeks and I’m wearing one of my Casioaks instead!
Good for you! I am working on a video about Apple watches for the autumn.
May I ask what do you get from the Casio you don't from the Apple Watch?
Great comment, thank you for sharing that.
Best regards,
TGV
@@theurbangentry I get peace and quiet! Just got fed up with the constant messaging and reminders, having to charge it up everyday etc…if I ever got seriously into health and fitness training, I might go back to it. But for now, not wearing one reduces my stress levels.
I took my young nephew to see Meg 2 and, honestly, it wasn't that bad, lol. I was assuming it was going to be worse.
Yayyyyyyy, Hugo's back and he's being naughty.
Hello, a Fantastic vieo (as always) I believe collecting too many watches of the same brand & which look quite alike will not get the attention & appreciation of everyone & may even be an eyesore Instead, it would be advisable to have a few Classic, a few Dress, a few Divers, a few Rugged (like G Shocks) & a few handmade / self designed watches in a your collection
Well….that intro was…something else, to say the least…
I love this channel! 😂
You have your house the way you like , you keep buying watches you like and your collection is amazing both on watches and other passions you have and you are always calm and relaxed.. you are definitely not married mate 😂
8:08 does it include all modern grey market TH-camrs?
This is why I have a specific set of ground rules, guidelines or self proclaimed limitations on watch buying. I only go for specific types of watches out of principle mainly because if this very dilemma. I hate having all the choices in the world and getting frustrated or confused in this hobby of watch collecting. To me this hobby should be a leisurely activity that I can involve in with a happy and clutter free mind. This is the only way I am able to enjoy this watch collecting journey. I don't buy digital watches, dive watches, pilot watches, field watches and dress watches. Also I only go for 39.5m to 40.5mm diameter watches plus 20mm lug width watches. Anything out of this criteria is just out the window....lol Design wise I only go for dressy/sporty kinda GADA type watches. Oh wait.... I have one single cheap digital watch for walking/Gym. This way I can avoid all the headaches that come with having too many choices in this hobby. Cheers.
I'd like to say that guys with money will buy watches, and guys with no money will buy watches. We all are always chasing something new or different. Good luck to fulfilling that void of WATCH happiness.
Casio is a collection in it's own right!
yellow Rolex and blue Squale stay for sure
Casio is God-tier I wouldn't worry about it.
I'll help you get views with some controversy: Will TGV get to Japan before the release of Star Citizen ?
I like Mark and LIW in the videos but their customer service I’ve found to be rude and unpleasant to deal with
Rolex OP 36 is the grail
Champers for everybody!
Hugo rules!
Hugo is the best.
Can someone tldw the next grail?
should have sold the rolex 6 months ago to get peak value. My grail watch would probably be A Lange or Patek.
Tudor shield-bearer
Is it a coincidence that GRAIL WATCH and GRAND SEIKO both have the same number of letters??? Think not lol!
Working for weeks on a watch video … tell me about it. I’m lucky if I see 300 views on some of my watch vids. Sadly my more artsy content gets fuck-all views at all. So .. I sympathize.
I’m always depressed looking at the view count for the video on made on the Tudor Black bay heritage.
Zeitwerk?
Quite the achievement to throw shade at basically every watch youtuber in one video! Seemed like even Teddy getting a spray here!? (13:22) A lot of genuine enthusiasts put endless hours into their craft to entertain us. Sure, there's plenty of terrible operators out there, but the majority are good people that are a positive influence for our hobby.
Yeah, that part felt a bit brusque.
Great show T! I definitely don’t wear the Explorer as much as I though I would! Design wise, feel wise and look wise it’s still one of the best no doubt! It’s just maybe not fun!!! Like that superb Blue Squale! Casios definitely don’t count in a collection let’s get that right now ok!!!!! I’d say with grey market ….. do your due diligence. You buy not just the watch you buy the dealer and for me a dealer like BQ Watches I know with a huge team of people and a brick and mortar store is one I’d definitely recommend!
Top comment from a top chap. Thank you fratello. Not familiar with BQ, are they a UK or US store? I presume UK right? I will check it out.
Best regards,
TGV
My 2 biggest weaknesses in collecting: 1) Buying a watch I won't like to wear just because it goes so well with one I already have, and, 2) Buying a watch because it's so cool or interesting even if it's one I'd never enjoy wearing.
The 2nd point is a good one. There are tons of beautiful watches out there that are not my style and would not get much wrist time, but in a way it would be nice to own them because of maybe what they represent or what brand they are etc. Collecting something for the sake of... collection? Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you don't get any satisfaction from it.. or does it?
Typical collector issues.....the material world....i want it but really enjoying it is something totally different.....
Sometimes we need to make changes, even if we may go against the grain. I don’t think this is “goodbye” to Rolex, but “I will see you later”.
I’m down to 3 watches. An Omega SMP, an Aqua Terra, and a G-Shock.
I wear my SMP every single day.
but I wear my Aqua Terra on occasion, and my G-Shock working out and house projects that could get paint on it.
I strive to be a one watch guy, but this is the best I can do.
I have 4 and its too much. They cant get enough wrist time I would love to give them. Even if its one less, three would be ideal number.
T! you're the godfather of this online watch space, you started it. You are the one who started my personal interest and obsession with watches. Feeling your passion and enthusiasm through the screen was infectious. I'm looking forward, as always, to see what's next for you. Your high effort content doesn't go unnoticed.
All the best, Kieron
Wow, this is spooky. I literally started watching your vids recently. You are a natural and far better than my embarrassing early days. Keep up the amazing work. I must add you to my recommended channels list ASAP! Thank you so much for the kind words, I rather lost for word.
Onwards and upwards my friend!
T.
Wow. Reading your comments, I feel like I'm watching history in the making and I can feel the bromance. I really love both of your channels.