Body coil & knees bend (3:44) is exactly what I missed on my serve! GREAT tips!!! I now used as you suggested on not just serve but also FH & BH drive too!! it'd improved my drive power tremendously !! Many Thx!!
After trying the hip loading suggested by this video, I find that turning so much is counter productive to my serve. First, it feels funny because when you turn so much you like you’ve committed so much energy to turning instead of linearly accelerating the racket. Second, I was not successful at getting more power on my serve. Third, turning so much made me change my toss, so my whole motion had to be recalibrated. I gave up and worked more on getting a better racket drop and pronation. This was so much more successful that I increased my velocity at least 20 mph. Now I’m working more on getting my drop even further down my back like Roddick. If getting more rotation was the key to serve power, players would serve like McEnroe but they don’t.
Tip: instead of bending your wrist on the backswing, which gives your brain the sense or feeling that its going to perform a slap (which is not a bad feeling to have in tennis shots), you shouldn't bend your wrist at all near the trophy pose. Instead, the action you should work on feeling is the radial/ulner pronation. Watch a player who exaggerates this like Raonic. He bends his wrist but the grip he has is one which emphasizes or exaggerates the radial/ulner pronation rather than an actual wrist bend. His grip isn't that extreme but because he's loading his radial/ulner pronation, the surface of the racquet he will strike the ball with is facing up, to the sky. Then, as he goes into his backswing, pause the video at Raonic's trophy pose: his wrist will not be bent anymore but it will still be twisted via pronation. Here's the key: the feeling or sense you want to have in your brain is one where you're going to swing up at the ball with the *edge* of the racquet. As you do, your wrist will unload from pronation to supenation naturally. Want another server who demonstrates excellent trunk rotation and radial ulner unloading: Pete Sampras. His motion is one where after striking the ball his pronation would unload to the point where the face of the racquet which just struck the ball is facing the side of the court after follow through. His arm is as loose like a noodle as possible at contact and right after. th-cam.com/video/7thE0iXMBWs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Xzs3cc_rG2Q/w-d-xo.html
Why pivot for an extra turn when you can simply line up initially with the front foot more parallel to the baseline? Also, I think there is a misunderstanding about the "leap" up in the serve just like there is in the groundstroke. In the latter, I think it is the lateral acceleration through the kinetic chain that forces the player off the ground rather than a conscious jumping. In the serve, similarly, it is the unwinding of the of the torso (now more vertically oriented than in the groundstroke) plus the pulling down of the tossing arm that is the primary force propelling you up. Consciously jumping is very secondary to the leap upward. The role of the tossing arm in the leap is almost never mentioned in serve videos yet it is what actually initiates, or should initiate, the forward motion of the serve. Letting the tossing arm just fall will cut a bit of power from your serve because you won't have the same acceleration in the forward swing of the serve.
Georgw Obelander, the feet set more parallel to the baseline is what McEnroe said he did to significantly improve his serve. He did it one day accidently.
Not saying your serves weren't nice, but the returner didn't move his feet, he stayed inside the baseline and didn't move back even after being aced a couple times and even tried to half volley the return on the last one? Maybe you are just trying to prove a point, but c'mon that has got to be staged or the opponent has extremely low tennis IQ.
Many times as coaches we’re working on specific things instead of playing to win... he was experimenting w net play and taking everything early. Agreed, if he stood back, no way I could have aced but it still felt good tho!
For Feeder's case, the 2nd serve is hit at the lower point than the first one. And he wants to keep the same rhythm for both serves. There is no big difference of RPM, the spin, in both serves. Some great players have big difference. Just my guess.
You need to get the hips more forward so you have less lordosis is your lower spine .. great servers don't squat they lean back and snap the torso forward allowing the arm and racket to lag like a whip through contact..
Edward Grunder I am curious, do you think Sampras pivots his hip with a slight squat or bends his back and trusts his torso and hands and racket flies out effortlessly?
Laurence Corray if you look at Pete in the " trophy" position you'll notice that his butt is inline with his spine which means he’s not squatting.. the knee bend is a consequence of his hips sliding forward .. he rotates his body toward the back fence to create rotational force ..the key is to maintain a very loose arm as well as a high elbow and to make contact with your momentum going up..how much actual power you get will depend on how synchronized you are as well as how much flexibility you have in your rotator cuff...
Another very interesting thing Pete does is before he serves is he sticks his butt back so as too create more momentum for his hips to slide forward ..this would maximize the stretch in his hip flexors..I believe this is where Pete was able to generate so much force ..
Great video. You aced that guy 4 times down the T? He even started to cheat to the middle on the 4th serve but he still couldn't put a racket on the ball. That's pretty embarrassing. Is he that bad? When you demonstrated the pivot, it looks like you foot faulted nearly every try.
He was working on early returns... just happened to be caught off guard! I normally don’t pivot, been experimenting. It def helps my turn but Idk about extra moving parts. Tbd
I do like your tips but if could go more straight to the point and to the drills maybe the videos would be shorter and more efficienr. It's too much information...
I think Sampras has THE most beautiful service motion ever!
great example to learn from....
Came back to this again. Genius!
Another great instructional video! You see and explain things that other coaches don't see.
Body coil & knees bend (3:44) is exactly what I missed on my serve! GREAT tips!!! I now used as you suggested on not just serve but also FH & BH drive too!! it'd improved my drive power tremendously !! Many Thx!!
After trying the hip loading suggested by this video, I find that turning so much is counter productive to my serve. First, it feels funny because when you turn so much you like you’ve committed so much energy to turning instead of linearly accelerating the racket. Second, I was not successful at getting more power on my serve. Third, turning so much made me change my toss, so my whole motion had to be recalibrated. I gave up and worked more on getting a better racket drop and pronation. This was so much more successful that I increased my velocity at least 20 mph. Now I’m working more on getting my drop even further down my back like Roddick. If getting more rotation was the key to serve power, players would serve like McEnroe but they don’t.
Thanks for the great video! I took the hip swivel/positioning and put it in to action today. It made a big difference for me.
Tip: instead of bending your wrist on the backswing, which gives your brain the sense or feeling that its going to perform a slap (which is not a bad feeling to have in tennis shots), you shouldn't bend your wrist at all near the trophy pose. Instead, the action you should work on feeling is the radial/ulner pronation. Watch a player who exaggerates this like Raonic. He bends his wrist but the grip he has is one which emphasizes or exaggerates the radial/ulner pronation rather than an actual wrist bend. His grip isn't that extreme but because he's loading his radial/ulner pronation, the surface of the racquet he will strike the ball with is facing up, to the sky. Then, as he goes into his backswing, pause the video at Raonic's trophy pose: his wrist will not be bent anymore but it will still be twisted via pronation. Here's the key: the feeling or sense you want to have in your brain is one where you're going to swing up at the ball with the *edge* of the racquet. As you do, your wrist will unload from pronation to supenation naturally. Want another server who demonstrates excellent trunk rotation and radial ulner unloading: Pete Sampras. His motion is one where after striking the ball his pronation would unload to the point where the face of the racquet which just struck the ball is facing the side of the court after follow through. His arm is as loose like a noodle as possible at contact and right after.
th-cam.com/video/7thE0iXMBWs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Xzs3cc_rG2Q/w-d-xo.html
Your serve looks so effortless when can I have that quality of serve !! big thanks for in-depth analysis
Why pivot for an extra turn when you can simply line up initially with the front foot more parallel to the baseline? Also, I think there is a misunderstanding about the "leap" up in the serve just like there is in the groundstroke. In the latter, I think it is the lateral acceleration through the kinetic chain that forces the player off the ground rather than a conscious jumping. In the serve, similarly, it is the unwinding of the of the torso (now more vertically oriented than in the groundstroke) plus the pulling down of the tossing arm that is the primary force propelling you up. Consciously jumping is very secondary to the leap upward. The role of the tossing arm in the leap is almost never mentioned in serve videos yet it is what actually initiates, or should initiate, the forward motion of the serve. Letting the tossing arm just fall will cut a bit of power from your serve because you won't have the same acceleration in the forward swing of the serve.
Georgw Obelander, the feet set more parallel to the baseline is what McEnroe said he did to significantly improve his serve. He did it one day accidently.
Not saying your serves weren't nice, but the returner didn't move his feet, he stayed inside the baseline and didn't move back even after being aced a couple times and even tried to half volley the return on the last one? Maybe you are just trying to prove a point, but c'mon that has got to be staged or the opponent has extremely low tennis IQ.
Many times as coaches we’re working on specific things instead of playing to win... he was experimenting w net play and taking everything early. Agreed, if he stood back, no way I could have aced but it still felt good tho!
@@15PointsOfTennis I see, thank you for the insight!
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Never before ever after great tip thanq coach🙏🙏🙏🙏
The service motion if fluid.😊
Well explained and convincing.
please hurry with the videos, I have a tournament coming up lol great coaching
For Feeder's case, the 2nd serve is hit at the lower point than the first one. And he wants to keep the same rhythm for both serves. There is no big difference of RPM, the spin, in both serves. Some great players have big difference. Just my guess.
You need to get the hips more forward so you have less lordosis is your lower spine .. great servers don't squat they lean back and snap the torso forward allowing the arm and racket to lag like a whip through contact..
Edward Grunder great advice
Edward Grunder I am curious, do you think Sampras pivots his hip with a slight squat or bends his back and trusts his torso and hands and racket flies out effortlessly?
Laurence Corray if you look at Pete in the " trophy" position you'll notice that his butt is inline with his spine which means he’s not squatting.. the knee bend is a consequence of his hips sliding forward .. he rotates his body toward the back fence to create rotational force ..the key is to maintain a very loose arm as well as a high elbow and to make contact with your momentum going up..how much actual power you get will depend on how synchronized you are as well as how much flexibility you have in your rotator cuff...
Another very interesting thing Pete does is before he serves is he sticks his butt back so as too create more momentum for his hips to slide forward ..this would maximize the stretch in his hip flexors..I believe this is where Pete was able to generate so much force ..
Edward Grunder great explanation. I am persuaded.
Brilliant!
The video preview says KPH up and MPH up, is there a way you can up your KPH but not your MPH?
Haha.. lmk if u find a way!
Great video. You aced that guy 4 times down the T? He even started to cheat to the middle on the 4th serve but he still couldn't put a racket on the ball. That's pretty embarrassing. Is he that bad? When you demonstrated the pivot, it looks like you foot faulted nearly every try.
He was working on early returns... just happened to be caught off guard! I normally don’t pivot, been experimenting. It def helps my turn but Idk about extra moving parts. Tbd
Should I start focusing on slow and good rhythm or just go straight practicing power serve?
IMO raise the lowest common denominator... prob rhythm tho and getting the coordination and feel w the racquet tip
Do you teach traditional forehand or two-handed forehand?
Traditional :)
Most videos contain a lot of talk and not much of a demo. You got the mix right here.
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I do like your tips but if could go more straight to the point and to the drills maybe the videos would be shorter and more efficienr. It's too much information...
She???
Embarrassing