Samsung Display requested the money to expand the QD Panel line up to include more sizes, but Samsung Electronic denied it. Dumb dumb dumb. Why? There was a fight between bosses of two Samsung companies. Hey Samsung Parent company, you shouldn't let a personal fight influence the operation like this.
Not dumb when you can get a 85 inch Mini LED for 2k and they give you a free sound system on top of that. TCL QM6k.. Large size OLEDs are super expensive and most people just get a super sized XL Mini LED TV..
Im glad there is a technology fight between Samsung and LG for Oled. Its the only way we get significant improvements year over year. Im looking forward to upgrading my aging tv and gaming monitor in the near future.
@@ahmet_10 Just saying.. Without LG there would be no OLED tv's at all. Samsung gave up the large screen oled market for over a decade and backed other technology.
*Samsung should use gorilla glass anti-reflective glass on their TVs which is used on the spectrum black monitors. They call it gorilla glass dxc. It's glossy and anti reflective at the same time. The best of both worlds.*
The best display is the one you just spent your hard earned cash on and chose wisely. In my case its the LG G4 77 inch. Theres always new tech on the horizon and best just to enjoy what you have.
You beat me to it. Every year its the same story and people keep falling for this Nonsense. I don't know why these TH-camrs humor this every year. It'll be much less than that. But it'll hit for half a second , then the TV will dramatically dim down. And it'' be in Vivid Mode that nobody watches.
And a 150 nits full screen brighter than even lg new model weather you like Samsung or not QD OLED is still best. Even Sony use Samsung display for QD OLED
@@alexsaraceno6144Most know full well this is marketing BS and Phil certainly knows it, he said as much. But you can't just go all out and call it BS to their faces in the stand. They'll just block you from all communications and review sets. At occasions like this you have just got to humour them, and let your review do the talking with proof to back up your hunches. Most people on here will not use Vivid. You'll be surprised how many "normal" people do.
QD-OLED WAS never 3,000 nits in 2024? wtf. The S95 had a 10% window of about 1580 nits, which is still very bright. But it's half the nits as stated. Dont even think in vivid mode it can do 3,000 nits. And is it just me or does the 2024 3,000 nits look more color accurate? Might be do to the angle, but should it?
I think the brightness limiter looks more prominent on the 2024 model giving that throttled weird colour representation, whereas the 2025 looked more LED like. Not sure about the new anti glare yet though
It is 4000 Nits but not on Samsung Electronics TVs. The 4000 Nits is achieved on the presentation panel from Samsung Display‚ and usually this isn't in an accurate picture mode. Also‚ how the limits are set‚ is totally on the TV manufacturer‚ but it will still not be going to push it to the limits.
8:06 yeah.. At 27" one of the first OLED monitors that featured UHD res was LG UltraFine Display OLED Pro with JOLED panel‚ followed by Philips‚ ViewSonic and Asus‚ all of them featuring the JOLED panel‚ all of them being professional monitors. Also‚ Asus made in 2019 a Professional monitor with OLED UHD DIsplay at 22" (around 200 PPI). But‚ yeah‚ 160 PPI at 27" OLED monitor for gaming is a first.
Problem. You guys are going off the safety service menu settings. You have to change some numbers around to get that 300 nits full screen. Im sure with the mod you can see 3k nits out of a %2 or %5 window
Also it’s Samsung display. So far, I don’t think anyone has taken their high nit numbers and tested them for burn in vs what it tv manufacturers (Samsung electronics) throttle them down to. For example they were boasting 2000 nits for the intro of qd oleds but Samsung electronics was only hitting up to 1300 nits which rt ratings did extreme burn testing on to show that even at that luminance had burn in. Personally if I could choose to void the warranty after a few years of use to just push the tv, I would. At that point the warranty would not be active as well. Also my use case would not be close to imitating what rt ratings did to get burn in. So I would benefit from ‘over clocking’ as it were if it was a pc to keep up with newer gen tech.
I believe S95F 77" and 65" are the best TV in the world now - even considering the fact Samsung Electronic is not giving the best image processor to it, because they reserve the best image processor for their big failure 8k TVs. 8k TV was the original idea of Samsung Electronic. QD OLED was the original idea of Samsung Display. What goes inside Samsung is crazy and dumb.
Can't wait to upgrade my S95C in 4 years time. I'm sure it would be a much bigger upgrade. For now I'm super happy with my TV. However it is good to see samsung are still innovating thier display panel
Anti glare matte coating doesn't stop the blacks from getting raised, they need a proper structural solution to QD OLED to stop raised blacks now that LG has removed MLA meaning those no longer have raised blacks.
Every year we get the same misinformation from these manufacters. The truth is Samsung display made a panel that is capable of 4k nits under the right circumstances. When Samsung electronics put this panel in their tv it will not do 4k nits.
The anti glare is completely blown out of proportion, I was one of the people that completely hated it but once I actually had it in my room it was a different story. The lifted blacks from the original version was nothing more than the already lifted blacks from the QD panel itself. Samsung is still the worst tv I've ever had but the screen was fine and did a decent job.
Different white point, plus not practical for longtime use for aging organics as too much overheating . For dark room viewing hardly matters to get that . Interesting more to see if gamult has changed
@@nimblegoat even on Vivid mode, the S95 last year only reached about 1600nits peak according to measurements done by outlets such as RTINGS and Tom’s Guide.
@@nimblegoat even on Vivid mode, the S95 last year only reached about 1600nits peak according to measurements done by outlets such as RTINGS and Tom’s Guide.
By that math - this new panel should easily reach 1500nits and max out at 1900nits. That’s pretty good. It’s pretty normal to factor in the marketing bs and do the deficit conversion.
Am i alone in thinking this mad rush by manufacturers for more nits is insane? Two years ago i went past a tv in a pub, football was on, the colours were just over the top, it was the first time i had noticed it, 2 years later every Samsung and other manufacturers tv have just got more unrealistic looking, real life looks nothing like what they put on thir tvs? Ok anime and computer generatic films fares well but i dont want to live in an anime world.
Other than Sony and Samsung there is no other tv manufacturer using QD-OLED panels that I'm aware of, so it looks like this year a new Sony is coming right?
No Dolby Vision absolutely no purchase, additionally the last Samsung TV I bought way way beck before I jumped to the E8, got bricked by firmware and I will never buy anything except LG or Panasonic…..
Why do I never BUT NEVER, believe anything that Samsung says? They always claim way more nits than the actual TV we are getting. I am fed up of their marketing BS and will never opt for Samsung ever again! Unless they pay to buy a TV! The only way not to lose money with Samsung! Don't give it to them!
Oh look, more bunk numbers from a brand that's notorious for making things up. Where's the integrity of these "influencers?" Grow a pair and call them out.
Damn... I recently bought a S90D 77". I hope Samsung give the S90D a software update and boost the brightness. Haha. I should've waited for the 2025 QD 4,000 nits. Buyer remorse 😂🤦♂️
To me that new display looks oversaturated, there’s still that red weakness still not fixed, to the point where the 2024 model looks more balanced yet whites are worse , also that auto white balance is far to aggressive let’s hope review models fix this on U.K. models
Samsung Display requested the money to expand the QD Panel line up to include more sizes, but Samsung Electronic denied it. Dumb dumb dumb. Why? There was a fight between bosses of two Samsung companies. Hey Samsung Parent company, you shouldn't let a personal fight influence the operation like this.
Not dumb when you can get a 85 inch Mini LED for 2k and they give you a free sound system on top of that. TCL QM6k..
Large size OLEDs are super expensive and most people just get a super sized XL Mini LED TV..
They saturate the market thinking poutine is laughing
Im glad there is a technology fight between Samsung and LG for Oled. Its the only way we get significant improvements year over year. Im looking forward to upgrading my aging tv and gaming monitor in the near future.
I congratulate Samsung, it did not force us to use TVs like LG, it allowed LG to improve itself.
@@ahmet_10 Just saying.. Without LG there would be no OLED tv's at all. Samsung gave up the large screen oled market for over a decade and backed other technology.
@LeJimster at the end samsung returned to oled
*Samsung should use gorilla glass anti-reflective glass on their TVs which is used on the spectrum black monitors. They call it gorilla glass dxc. It's glossy and anti reflective at the same time. The best of both worlds.*
They will not gonna use it. They are the stingiest out of the top 4 most known and reputable brands (LG‚ Sony‚ Panasonic and Samsung).
@MirelRC spot on, samsung uses cheap, trash parts even on flagships. Ive had the worst experiences, never buying again
SAMSUNG NEED TO START PUTTING A HEATSINK IN THEIR OLEDs.
Looks like the color blue is a major component in any display advancement here in both QD-OLED and WOLED (Tandem) technology....
The best display is the one you just spent your hard earned cash on and chose wisely. In my case its the LG G4 77 inch. Theres always new tech on the horizon and best just to enjoy what you have.
And according to Vincent's shootout, LG G4 is the best TV of 2024
That's called cope
@@AndrewB23LG Cope is real…
LG G4 is obsolete now
I'm getting the 500hz 1440p qd OLED.
*Marketing bla bla...*
4000Nits?
Ok do it by an 10% window with an D65 Whitpoint.
You can't do it?
Wow what an surprise...
440 bits full field white. Holy shit
4000 nits in vivid mode for a few seconds
You beat me to it. Every year its the same story and people keep falling for this Nonsense. I don't know why these TH-camrs humor this every year. It'll be much less than that. But it'll hit for half a second , then the TV will dramatically dim down. And it'' be in Vivid Mode that nobody watches.
1% 4000nits for ONE Second😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
All do the same do.. @mp792
And a 150 nits full screen brighter than even lg new model weather you like Samsung or not QD OLED is still best. Even Sony use Samsung display for QD OLED
@@alexsaraceno6144Most know full well this is marketing BS and Phil certainly knows it, he said as much.
But you can't just go all out and call it BS to their faces in the stand. They'll just block you from all communications and review sets. At occasions like this you have just got to humour them, and let your review do the talking with proof to back up your hunches.
Most people on here will not use Vivid. You'll be surprised how many "normal" people do.
Did they say what sizes the new QD Oled panels come in?
This intro music is 🔥
QD-OLED WAS never 3,000 nits in 2024? wtf. The S95 had a 10% window of about 1580 nits, which is still very bright. But it's half the nits as stated. Dont even think in vivid mode it can do 3,000 nits. And is it just me or does the 2024 3,000 nits look more color accurate? Might be do to the angle, but should it?
Samsung's marketing BS! I have been a victim myself and will never buy anything Samsung again!
I think the brightness limiter looks more prominent on the 2024 model giving that throttled weird colour representation, whereas the 2025 looked more LED like. Not sure about the new anti glare yet though
lol! Yepp! Saw it to! Red at the left and orange red at the right
It's 4000 nits just for first month until all the reviews are done. Then they will roll an update and nerf it to under half that, like they always do.
It is 4000 Nits but not on Samsung Electronics TVs. The 4000 Nits is achieved on the presentation panel from Samsung Display‚ and usually this isn't in an accurate picture mode. Also‚ how the limits are set‚ is totally on the TV manufacturer‚ but it will still not be going to push it to the limits.
HELLO, R there any sony tvs coming 2 ces this year, THANK U 😮😮
How long will it last for 4000 nits before it drops
Literally one second. And in Vivid Mode. Same shit, different year.
1 Second !😂😂😂😂😂
The same as all the other manufacturers who give peak brightness figures too. What's your point 😂
The hate from people ain't hiding anymore😂😂😂😂. Just buy what you love. Stop the stupidity
@@cleverjohn1969 What hate ? And what stupidity ?
I wonder how many more of these high end TVs they'd sell if only they got over their weird hatred of anything Dolby.
Since they have their own audio coming out they might drop it completely
8:06 yeah.. At 27" one of the first OLED monitors that featured UHD res was LG UltraFine Display OLED Pro with JOLED panel‚ followed by Philips‚ ViewSonic and Asus‚ all of them featuring the JOLED panel‚ all of them being professional monitors. Also‚ Asus made in 2019 a Professional monitor with OLED UHD DIsplay at 22" (around 200 PPI).
But‚ yeah‚ 160 PPI at 27" OLED monitor for gaming is a first.
Does no dolby vision support matter or not?
Problem. You guys are going off the safety service menu settings. You have to change some numbers around to get that 300 nits full screen. Im sure with the mod you can see 3k nits out of a %2 or %5 window
Also it’s Samsung display. So far, I don’t think anyone has taken their high nit numbers and tested them for burn in vs what it tv manufacturers (Samsung electronics) throttle them down to. For example they were boasting 2000 nits for the intro of qd oleds but Samsung electronics was only hitting up to 1300 nits which rt ratings did extreme burn testing on to show that even at that luminance had burn in.
Personally if I could choose to void the warranty after a few years of use to just push the tv, I would. At that point the warranty would not be active as well.
Also my use case would not be close to imitating what rt ratings did to get burn in. So I would benefit from ‘over clocking’ as it were if it was a pc to keep up with newer gen tech.
27 inch 4k at 500hz is crazy… can anything run that?
It's 1440p, regardless now that Nvidia DLSS4 is coming people will be hitting 500hz pretty regularly.
The 2024 QDOLED was never 3000 nits when setup for movie viewing, so the 2025 wont be 4000 either
7:59 WHAT DO I SEE!?!?
220PPI 27" QD-OLED?
5K OLED IS COMING!
And still no Dolby Vision?!😵💫
Hisense didnt show 2025 u8 tv?
Caleb at Digital Trends says that Hisense has some great new tech in their 116UX which will eventually trickle down to their smaller sizes.
Will it be this year
From first impressions, which TV seemed to impress more: LG G5 or Samsung S95F?
Pana Z95B
I believe S95F 77" and 65" are the best TV in the world now - even considering the fact Samsung Electronic is not giving the best image processor to it, because they reserve the best image processor for their big failure 8k TVs. 8k TV was the original idea of Samsung Electronic. QD OLED was the original idea of Samsung Display. What goes inside Samsung is crazy and dumb.
G5😂😂😂
So not only samsung will use qd oled for their tv's this year, he just confirmed it plain and simple. Which other company will do it, Sony?
Can't wait to upgrade my S95C in 4 years time. I'm sure it would be a much bigger upgrade. For now I'm super happy with my TV. However it is good to see samsung are still innovating thier display panel
Except they're not.
Anti glare matte coating doesn't stop the blacks from getting raised, they need a proper structural solution to QD OLED to stop raised blacks now that LG has removed MLA meaning those no longer have raised blacks.
Still no Dolby Vision, NO BUY 😡
At least he confirmed qd oled Will be used with Sony or someone else ?😊
Every year we get the same misinformation from these manufacters. The truth is Samsung display made a panel that is capable of 4k nits under the right circumstances. When Samsung electronics put this panel in their tv it will not do 4k nits.
Samsung shoud have 2 options for the
S95f,anti-glare and glossy for the 'enthusiasts'.
No one cares about say 0,5% of the market
The anti glare is completely blown out of proportion, I was one of the people that completely hated it but once I actually had it in my room it was a different story. The lifted blacks from the original version was nothing more than the already lifted blacks from the QD panel itself. Samsung is still the worst tv I've ever had but the screen was fine and did a decent job.
I'm guessing this is in the incredibly inaccurate oversaturated vivid mode because it was already stated to be 2000 nits
Whats the name of this QD-OLED TV? And when will it be available and does it include DV?
They also said that their 2024 TVs would be 3000nits last year. They barely reached 1500nits.
Different white point, plus not practical for longtime use for aging organics as too much overheating . For dark room viewing hardly matters to get that . Interesting more to see if gamult has changed
@@nimblegoat even on Vivid mode, the S95 last year only reached about 1600nits peak according to measurements done by outlets such as RTINGS and Tom’s Guide.
@@nimblegoat even on Vivid mode, the S95 last year only reached about 1600nits peak according to measurements done by outlets such as RTINGS and Tom’s Guide.
@@nimblegoat on Vivid mode, the S95 last year reached about 1600nits peak according to measurements done by outlets such as RTINGS and Tom’s Guide.
By that math - this new panel should easily reach 1500nits and max out at 1900nits. That’s pretty good. It’s pretty normal to factor in the marketing bs and do the deficit conversion.
👍🏻
Have a bigger bookshelf and a smaller TEE VEE.
Am i alone in thinking this mad rush by manufacturers for more nits is insane? Two years ago i went past a tv in a pub, football was on, the colours were just over the top, it was the first time i had noticed it, 2 years later every Samsung and other manufacturers tv have just got more unrealistic looking, real life looks nothing like what they put on thir tvs? Ok anime and computer generatic films fares well but i dont want to live in an anime world.
Yea.. 4000 nits.. Bla bla bla.. Wait for the first update from Samsung, than we talk again 😂
Its all marketing BS, why not just give us the brightness at D65.
I hate the matte finish. HDMI 2.2 is close, so it's not worth the upgrade right now 😊
@@DarkLionn83 unless it's booked up to a PC and even then, 2.2 is utterly pointless for years.
@invisiblekid99 I think the PS6 will use HDMI 2.2. Also, next year's TVs will be 2.2. Only time will tell.
Other than Sony and Samsung there is no other tv manufacturer using QD-OLED panels that I'm aware of, so it looks like this year a new Sony is coming right?
Sony is probably leaving qd oled for tandem oled this year based on some rumors
No Dolby Vision absolutely no purchase, additionally the last Samsung TV I bought way way beck before I jumped to the E8, got bricked by firmware and I will never buy anything except LG or Panasonic…..
Why do I never BUT NEVER, believe anything that Samsung says? They always claim way more nits than the actual TV we are getting. I am fed up of their marketing BS and will never opt for Samsung ever again! Unless they pay to buy a TV! The only way not to lose money with Samsung! Don't give it to them!
They are going to reduce the brightness to save the tv's lifespan. They did it before.
Also I don't buy the 2024 models are THAT dim!
Can’t wait to see what Sony will do with the next gen QD-OLED panel.
I don't need 4000 nit, I need bigger 85+ qdoleds at human prices
QD OLED lacks a polarizer, blacks will always be lifted regardless if its an anti glare matte coating or glossy.
Oh look, more bunk numbers from a brand that's notorious for making things up. Where's the integrity of these "influencers?" Grow a pair and call them out.
But the mat finish is still completely disgusting....
Horrible antiglare
Damn... I recently bought a S90D 77". I hope Samsung give the S90D a software update and boost the brightness. Haha. I should've waited for the 2025 QD 4,000 nits. Buyer remorse 😂🤦♂️
It's typical markerting bs , It won't do 4,000 nits probably any longer than a few seconds.
They'll actually make it dimmer
Is yours qd oled or woled version you can boost brightness from service menu youself
@@uusrikas QD-OLED.
@@sumbochen ok i think i make video how to to everything and what i personally have done and it will be plenty bright
To me that new display looks oversaturated, there’s still that red weakness still not fixed, to the point where the 2024 model looks more balanced yet whites are worse , also that auto white balance is far to aggressive let’s hope review models fix this on U.K. models
These displays are likely to be in Vivid mode and we're also viewing them indirectly, so not a true impression of their appearance in person.
Bring back the curve 🤷♂️