To my knowledge these wheels have 36V 350W engines, but you used a 14.8V battery. (Of course I might be wrong) Did you manage to reach "full speed" with this setup? Is this a permanent solution, or just a proof of concept that the speed controlling works?
Hi, I have an issue with finding a correct ESC to use. I am using a 40A ESC UBEC 4A, and a 36V 350W motor. I have 6S Lipo Batteries to power the motor. The problem with this ESC is that it doesn't allow a high enough current through to start and only after a push does the wheel start moving. We've tried an 80A ESC however the motor is only moving very slowly - about 0.3m/s and the speed was not changing with the throttle. Which ESC are you using and can you offer any solutions to our problems. Thanks
hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-40a-esc-4a-ubec.html This is the ESC we are using. We have tried it with other motors and it works, we just cannot make it work with the hoverboard motor
I can't really recommend you anything specific. In my tests I was using a 4 cell ESC that I found in my stuff. It was strong enough to turn the wheel nothing more...
Hello! I'm thinking of building a lawn mower using hoverboard wheel-motor's. What ESC driver would be ok for that? I need to sontrol 2 motors independently. Is there a way I can use hoowerboard controler for that? And control it using RC?
The brushless DC electronic speed controllers are located on the main board of the hoverboard. Theoretically it is possible to parse them out of the circuit and use for your own purposes, but I can't tell how to do it. It would take some reverse engineering skills including PCB re-tracing to understand the schematic and to figure how to re-use just the ESCs. I wouldn't do it. I would use some stand alone ESC that is properly rated for the job. In general the hoverboard motors are rated as 36V 10A. That is a 10 cell lipo battery. Find an ESC that matches or exceeds these values. There are plenty of ESCs available on the market today. Some are designed for RC models (drones/planes/cars) some for emerging electric bikes, scooters and hover boards. Anything from the latter category should suit your needs. Keep in mind that in order to get all the power rated for the motors (usually about 350Wt each) you will also need a proper battery. Wish you luck! Let me know whether you have more questions...
There are some chinese controllers that can even make use of the hall effect sensors (runs better at low rpm), mine are still on their way so I can't tell you if they are any good. They aren't compatible with servo signals, though, they are controlled by a potentiometer (or any analogue voltage between 0 and 5V).
@@arbusa_productions you have nothing on your channel about using an esc! All it is,is you looking like a tool with crap music riding a stupid scooter.
Is there a way to splice in a potentiometer to an ESC while still having override control from the transmitter? I want to use a large ESC as a servo controller for a large servo I plan to build with a drill motor. I just don't know how to get position feedback to the ESC
is there a way to explain how did you wire it thanks I want to use this wheel for a project but I need to be able to go forward and backwards thanks HELP
The voltage should match your battery. As for the amperage, it depends on the power that you are going to need to drive your board. The heavier the board the more power you will need. You will need power not only to move the wight of the board working against the friction. You will need much more power to balance the board, in the words, applying significant pulses of torque in one or the other direction. Once you figure the power you can tell the amperage rating of your ESC: amps = power / battery voltage
I am making an electric skateboard with two hub wheels exactly like this from an old hover board, and a battery from one as well. I believe the battery is 36v, and the wheels are the same. I want high torque and speed in order to actually get speed and control with the skateboard when a person is standing on it, considering the weight. What ESC would I need with this battery wheel setup. I'm hooking it up to a small rc receiver and I will be controlling throttle with the transmitter.
you need ESC that can handle your 36V and about 30A of current. Check the parts for electro-bikes. Here is one example: www.electricscooterparts.com/hookup/SPD-36500.htm
I am trying to do the same thing, but with 4 segway wheels. Can I just wire the reciever to the throttle wires of the e bike speed controller ? And do I need 4 e bike speed controllers or can I connect all of the wheels to one?
The average hoverboard motor has power of 350 Wt @ 350 rpm. This online calculator planetcalc.com/1908/ gives the torque of about 10 Nm. I can't say what the drill' tongue is. It depends.
i really cannot figure out how you did this.... Do you have to program the ESC before you plug it in? I have almost the exact same set up except I'm using a 6 cell battery and appropriate ESC... Are these not plug and go? Any information would be much appreciated.
You don't have to program ESC. Make sure that your battery is charged, check continuity between all three leads of the motor, don't forget to engage your ESC. Most ESCs have built-in safety feature which disables the motor until you completely throttle it down.
How would I check the continuity between leads? This is the ESC I bought. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UL3O2BO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's an Optic so I don't know if that has to do with anything... I have the same exact servo tester but when I connect the three leads and connect the esc to the battery the Servo tester has no lights turn on like in yours...
Haha I'm still not entirely sure what that means lol. I've worked with ESCs but it's almost always been through a flight controller. I checked the batteries and they had juice... but the servo controller still would not turn on. I check the the part that plugs into the Servo Tester and it was not putting out 5v like it should... right? Maybe I got a bad ESC... In your experience is there anything I need to do to the ESC to allow the 5v to actually work? I don't know man you made it look so simple haha...
You’d have to buy a motor controller with a Hall effect sensor, which is just a sensor that tells where the rotor position is and it should be able to go over potholes then
hello Alexander , u did very well i have a question and i need ur helping , i want to make same of what you did and i will try to control it using arduino but before i buy the parts i want to know what should i check in the parts ? especially how to chose the right esc for the motor .. thank you
to run the motor at the full power you will need about 40-50 V battery and a speed controller that can handle this voltage and enough current to meet your needs. check the comments to this vid somebody posted here links on suitable ESCs..
well , i do not want it to run full power , i want it to run slow , i will use , 30A esc with same battery of the hoverboard , what you think ? is it enough ?
Hello being that the esc is a over 500 watts esc controller and the hover board wheel motor is only 350 watts do you see any future where the esc can damage the motor, Or if some weight was put on it like if on a skateboard that the esc can Handle it?
Hello i finally got my Wheels in and i got a speed controller on it. I'm using a arduino to controller the Speed controller I here beeping once a second but when i go to program the arduino i get nothing from it and it still is beeping once a second. Not sure what to do i do not have one of them PWM controllers like you have. But i can use a arduino to do the same thing. Just not sure what is going on?
I don't think I can help you with it. But I can give you two tips. 1 - learn your ESC. Most of them have some sort of startup sequence designed to avoid injuries related to sudden motor starts at high RPM. 2 - I know that Arduino may produce very low quality PWM due to timing issues caused by interrupts. Make sure that for your purposes of controlling ESC you selected a pin that can produce hardware driven PWM. I hope it helps.
Hello I'm learning it i finally got it up and running. It took me a while to figure out how to get it started. But from what I'm learning the speed that i have will not be enough it is only half of what is required to get the Full speed and power of the motor. I'm buying a new speed controller that fits the Hub motor correctly But i have a question the Humming coming from the motor is that normal on Low speed?
In your opinion Do you need the esc? Or is it possible to run the motor with just an on/off switch? Max rpm only, in one direction? If you stripped all the hall sensor wiring would there be 3 wires left? Positive cw, positive ccw, and ground? I'm not sure because I was under the impression the hall sensor was what drove the motor 4 wires each energized a sequence of coils driving the motor in that direction? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
You do need some sort of brushless DC controller, alternatively you can run these motors using a source of three phase AC of the appropriate voltage (about 50V)
Your assumptions are totally wrong, the three leads connect all to the ends of a three phase coil system, the sensors are just for sensing the position of the magnets so that the right coils can get turned on or off, although most modern ESCs can work sensorless. Just connecting the motor wires to ground would make the motor lock in one position and heat it up very quickly (might even get damaged).
Hello Alexander, I have tried to make it run with my new battery, but I still run in to strange behavior. Can you watch my uploaded video an offer me more suggestions? th-cam.com/video/7ans9jBtMeY/w-d-xo.html
These motors can run any direction just like they do in the original application (hoverboard). Some ESC can drive the motor in both directions, otherwise just swap any two wires to reverse the rotation.
hi, can you tell me which ESC I have to buy for? manage two brushless motors from 36volt to 350watt (the hoverboard wheels) even if you have a link it would be better !! thank you
I assume you understand that each motor will need its own ESC. 36V 350W gives us about 10A of current. To make it save choose ESC that can handle 15A or more..
Alexander Kolomietz ok, but every time I ask the sellers of ESC answer me that they are not good, there is a line for the 36 volt one ??? would you be so kind to put me an ebay link ?? :)
something like this might work for you www.ebay.com/itm/24-36V-Dual-Motors-Electric-Skateboard-Longbaord-Controller-w-Remote-ESC/232603736744?hash=item3628435aa8:g:eGIAAOSwvD5aOMXT
Dear, I need to control two wells (roverboard) for other propose using arduino. The question is, the well that I have is 42V, This ESC works well? Thanks.
These motors without Hall sensor are pretty much useless. It can spin by those ESC, but they have NO TORQUE in low RPM. So, good luck trying to build something with it.
Hello, I am designing a similar circuit, whereby I have the same wheel you do (300W Brushless DC motor), connected through a 40A ESC UBEC 4A, which is controlled through a potentiometer and arduino, instead of a servo tester. I am having trouble getting the motor to spin, it seems to only vibrate. Do you have any idea why it would act this way?
@@karacupa I am using a 6s Lipo battery so approx 22.4V. However, I do not need the max power of the wheels and should be ok with 22.4V. I initially thought so myself, so I used a VESC instead of my ESC, and programmed it to draw 20V and 17A, and the wheels did manage to rotate.
@@georgepapasotiriou1708, Oh, 6S should be more than enough for that application. The next thing to check is your ESC then. May be it waits for some sort of safe initiation sequence. Try to run some other brushless motor with that ESC.
@@karacupa I believe I am initializing it correctly, I am following the standard procedure stated by the manufacturer. Do you think it could be the arduino that creates an error?
@@georgepapasotiriou1708 it is quite possible that the problem is in the Arduino. Try to replace it with a servo tester or RC receiver. Controlling servos/ESC with Arduino may be tricky. Make sure you are using the Arduino pins that handle PWM.
Can I use it straight from battery to motor/wheel in my electric bike with 36v batt from hoverboard will it be strong enough to run me (90kg) and my bike(super lightweight alluminium)?
@1:39 the wheel starts and stops because it is driven by a servo tester - a small blue box that has two modes of operation: one mode is when I manually adjust the speed by turning the knob, the second mode is when the tester rump up and down the speed automatically. I can't say what is wrong with your hoverboard. If both wheels are dead most likely the problem is in the main controller or power circuit. If it is just one wheel, check its speed controller, motors windings and hall sensors. Wish you luck.
im driving mine off of an R/C controller, i can get it to turn at high speeds but for slower speeds mine does a start and stop thing like yours does. your video is very helpful though and youve given me some troubleshooting steps. thank you very much
i am pretty sure you just need few extra cells of lypo. it sounds like your setup doesn't have enough voltage. if you switch to a bigger battery, make sure you are using the properly rated ESC.
I tried this with 3 different ESC's and cant get it to work. One was a Hawk 50a airplane esc similar to the one in the video, one was a hobbywing 150a car esc and one was a trackstar 60a car esc (sensored) that one actually spun the motor, but it wasn't smooth. The other two esc's would just chatter. tried swapping motor wires with no success.
Robert Greene, I tried the same thing with esc as you said, it didn`t work. Then i bought a 5-36v bldc controller (sensored) it worked quite well. Highly recommended
Onur Dokmetas I finally ended up using a fsesc skateboard controller. Took me about two hours to program it the way I wanted it but it works really well.
Okay great.. so with your setup, are you using the inputs from the hall effect sensors .. or is just driving the motor? How does it time the coil energizing?
congratulations, nice video, the wheel reaches its maximum speed with the battery 4 s? or if it were powered at 36 volts with a special controller would it run faster?
I have the same one, but when I tried to run it on 7,4v battery with 2s controller, it started spinning but it stops every 3 seconds and don't spin more (sorry for bad English). What should I try to run my motor smoothly without stopping?
Вам не хватает напряжения. Нужно, как минимум 14В. Попробуйте четыре банки аккумулятора. Не забудьте проверить, что Ваш ESC рассчитан на такое напряжение.
You will see three wires from the motor and few (may be six) from the hall sensors. If you want just to run the motor you can ignore the hall sensors. So use three wires from the motor and connect it to any of the three output terminals of the ESC. When you switch any two wires the motor changes the direction.
If it is a brushless DC motor ESC it should have three outputs. Just connect them to your motor's leads. Swapping any two wires will change the rotation direction.
Hey guys, I got my hoverboard new and after 20 minutes the side of the wheel was very hot. So my question is, is it normal and can you still ride on it when the side of the wheel is very hot? Please help .
@@drewmileham202 Good luck with that. Btw do you have any numbers on the amount of torque your motor can produce? Thinking of using one of those on a project requiring higher torques.
Christian Wang I am trying to build a longboard with these wheels, but I don't know if I should use the original battery or not. Why choose for the original battery?
Hi man! I have 3cell 1400 mAh 65C Li-Po Battery, like yours servo tester, like yours wheel and 40A ESC . i tried run system like yours but my wheel verry slowly. What can I do?
One car battery is not enough to drive these motors. You need at least two, better yet, three such batteries connected in series to achieve the required voltage. Make sure your ESC can handle the voltage. Wish you luck
I would recommend to bump it up to 10 cells. It will give your about 33V. These motors are rated about 350Wt so your expected current will be just a little bit more than 10A. Make sure that your cells can handle that current.
Sorry. My English is a little weak. What I would like to say; Cancel the hall sensor on the device and connect it throttle instead. How can I do it. Thank you.
The wheel-motor has two hall sensors installed. These are small black plastic components with three leads each glued into the body of the motor. For simple applications where you don't care about precise positioning of the motor, you can ignore them, don't connect to anything, leave the leads opened. They are not needed to drive the motor. Connect three thick wires from the motor' windings to the output of your ESC. That is all you need. Swap any two wires to change the spin direction.
Alexander Kolomietz so its the controller that is only 1 way. also that esc looks a tad small for that motor. my math on a 3s is about 30a draw? is there a lot of heat. I'm building a robomower and these might fit the bill perfectly
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How are you doing this with out the hall censor.
Have just hooked up a brushless esc and works terrible.
You using anything else here??
Thanks
To my knowledge these wheels have 36V 350W engines, but you used a 14.8V battery. (Of course I might be wrong)
Did you manage to reach "full speed" with this setup? Is this a permanent solution, or just a proof of concept that the speed controlling works?
No
Hi,
I have an issue with finding a correct ESC to use. I am using a 40A ESC UBEC 4A, and a 36V 350W motor. I have 6S Lipo Batteries to power the motor. The problem with this ESC is that it doesn't allow a high enough current through to start and only after a push does the wheel start moving.
We've tried an 80A ESC however the motor is only moving very slowly - about 0.3m/s and the speed was not changing with the throttle.
Which ESC are you using and can you offer any solutions to our problems.
Thanks
hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbyking-40a-esc-4a-ubec.html
This is the ESC we are using. We have tried it with other motors and it works, we just cannot make it work with the hoverboard motor
I can't really recommend you anything specific. In my tests I was using a 4 cell ESC that I found in my stuff. It was strong enough to turn the wheel nothing more...
Hello! I'm thinking of building a lawn mower using hoverboard wheel-motor's. What ESC driver would be ok for that? I need to sontrol 2 motors independently. Is there a way I can use hoowerboard controler for that? And control it using RC?
The brushless DC electronic speed controllers are located on the main board of the hoverboard. Theoretically it is possible to parse them out of the circuit and use for your own purposes, but I can't tell how to do it. It would take some reverse engineering skills including PCB re-tracing to understand the schematic and to figure how to re-use just the ESCs. I wouldn't do it. I would use some stand alone ESC that is properly rated for the job. In general the hoverboard motors are rated as 36V 10A. That is a 10 cell lipo battery. Find an ESC that matches or exceeds these values. There are plenty of ESCs available on the market today. Some are designed for RC models (drones/planes/cars) some for emerging electric bikes, scooters and hover boards. Anything from the latter category should suit your needs. Keep in mind that in order to get all the power rated for the motors (usually about 350Wt each) you will also need a proper battery. Wish you luck! Let me know whether you have more questions...
@@karacupa th-cam.com/video/QrH8NNfC-UE/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for posting this it answered alot of my questions. Could I run the wheel on a 3s lipo and still get enough power for an e-longboard?
I really doubt it.
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I've tried this, and the motor spins for a little more than 2 rotations and then stops. Seems like 4s is the min voltage.
when yuou find answers , please inform me
Can you get full torque out of the hoverboard motor just using an ECS?
Probably not and it won’t me see sores either
I took my motor apart and found that it was wired in star mode. I rewired it as delta and it works much better now.
All hoverboard motors are delta. Never seen one in star winding.
what esc would I need to run two of these with the battery that segway comes with 36volt.
and carry me along a road ( go kart style
There are some chinese controllers that can even make use of the hall effect sensors (runs better at low rpm), mine are still on their way so I can't tell you if they are any good. They aren't compatible with servo signals, though, they are controlled by a potentiometer (or any analogue voltage between 0 and 5V).
@@CatNolara on our chanel we have build some vehicles with this kind of controller, works perfekt :D
@@arbusa_productions you have nothing on your channel about using an esc! All it is,is you looking like a tool with crap music riding a stupid scooter.
@@Aussiem8e Says the adult who plays with toy cars :D
Is there a way to splice in a potentiometer to an ESC while still having override control from the transmitter? I want to use a large ESC as a servo controller for a large servo I plan to build with a drill motor. I just don't know how to get position feedback to the ESC
Perfect! Is there any way to turn it reverse?
Do you think an 18 amp esc can handle this ??
do you think two wheels with two escs could be suitable for moving a large person, trying to make a bldc motor driven shopping cart
ive found escs similar to these on ebay and they are so cheap i almost dont believe they'd work
@@auden_builds would you like to inform me about the result,
Hello There, did you measure the rpm?
How could you control this motor (36v) with this ESC that works with 16.8v max??
posibil here ..de.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=AS_20170220114103&SearchText=esc+30a
Hello. Is it not possible to control two motors by radio control??
yes, the knob he is turning is basically replicating the pwm that a radio control would send to a receiver.
I just tried the same but with 3 cell battery. It spins for 2-3 seconds and then stops. You think it is low battery voltage?
is there a way to explain how did you wire it thanks I want to use this wheel for a project but I need to be able to go forward and backwards thanks HELP
You can run it forward and backwards in your, adjust some movement settings in your transmitter,
How powerful an ESC would you need to run this if you were to build a Remote Control hoverboard?
The voltage should match your battery. As for the amperage, it depends on the power that you are going to need to drive your board. The heavier the board the more power you will need. You will need power not only to move the wight of the board working against the friction. You will need much more power to balance the board, in the words, applying significant pulses of torque in one or the other direction. Once you figure the power you can tell the amperage rating of your ESC: amps = power / battery voltage
Do u really run this motor without the hall sensor?
What are the alternative options?
Hello, have you done any configuration on the ESC to run the engine?
I am making an electric skateboard with two hub wheels exactly like this from an old hover board, and a battery from one as well. I believe the battery is 36v, and the wheels are the same. I want high torque and speed in order to actually get speed and control with the skateboard when a person is standing on it, considering the weight. What ESC would I need with this battery wheel setup. I'm hooking it up to a small rc receiver and I will be controlling throttle with the transmitter.
you need ESC that can handle your 36V and about 30A of current. Check the parts for electro-bikes. Here is one example: www.electricscooterparts.com/hookup/SPD-36500.htm
I am trying to do the same thing, but with 4 segway wheels. Can I just wire the reciever to the throttle wires of the e bike speed controller ? And do I need 4 e bike speed controllers or can I connect all of the wheels to one?
You can connect all to one if you want them to function the same on command. But different channels u can operate each motor independently.
Do you think this would work as a permanent solution if one was to use this motor for a electric scooter?
Did you try that?
I am trying to build a longboard with these wheels, but I don't know if I should use the original battery or not. Why choose for the original battery?
The original battery was chosen to meet the specs of the motor in terms of the voltage and current.
going off this what ESC should he use
There is perfectly visible the lack of.. Voltage xD
Why would you say that ? Because of the low rpm ?
What kind of power can these handle? I have heard 72v, with cooling mods, but I haven't tried it, I have a 1500w 72v controller,
Conecté un motor a 125 de la luz de casa y tremenda velocidad , si tocas la rueda te quema de la velocidad , alcanzó,los 145/k
How much torque do these motors have would they have as much as a drill?
The average hoverboard motor has power of 350 Wt @ 350 rpm. This online calculator planetcalc.com/1908/ gives the torque of about 10 Nm. I can't say what the drill' tongue is. It depends.
@@karacupa is that per wheel
i really cannot figure out how you did this.... Do you have to program the ESC before you plug it in? I have almost the exact same set up except I'm using a 6 cell battery and appropriate ESC... Are these not plug and go? Any information would be much appreciated.
You don't have to program ESC. Make sure that your battery is charged, check continuity between all three leads of the motor, don't forget to engage your ESC. Most ESCs have built-in safety feature which disables the motor until you completely throttle it down.
How would I check the continuity between leads? This is the ESC I bought. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UL3O2BO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's an Optic so I don't know if that has to do with anything... I have the same exact servo tester but when I connect the three leads and connect the esc to the battery the Servo tester has no lights turn on like in yours...
I meant the continuity between the motor' leads :) Your ESC should work fine..
Haha I'm still not entirely sure what that means lol. I've worked with ESCs but it's almost always been through a flight controller. I checked the batteries and they had juice... but the servo controller still would not turn on. I check the the part that plugs into the Servo Tester and it was not putting out 5v like it should... right? Maybe I got a bad ESC... In your experience is there anything I need to do to the ESC to allow the 5v to actually work? I don't know man you made it look so simple haha...
P.S. I appreciate the help;)
Hi, I have a problem when test on the floor, if the floor has a pothole it stops, how would you make the hoverboard keep moving through potholes?
You’d have to buy a motor controller with a Hall effect sensor, which is just a sensor that tells where the rotor position is and it should be able to go over potholes then
hello Alexander , u did very well
i have a question and i need ur helping , i want to make same of what you did and i will try to control it using arduino but before i buy the parts i want to know what should i check in the parts ? especially how to chose the right esc for the motor .. thank you
to run the motor at the full power you will need about 40-50 V battery and a speed controller that can handle this voltage and enough current to meet your needs. check the comments to this vid somebody posted here links on suitable ESCs..
well , i do not want it to run full power , i want it to run slow , i will use , 30A esc with same battery of the hoverboard , what you think ? is it enough ?
Compiler X 30a should more than enough. Make sure your esc can handle the voltage..
Hello being that the esc is a over 500 watts esc controller and the hover board wheel motor is only 350 watts do you see any future where the esc can damage the motor, Or if some weight was put on it like if on a skateboard that the esc can Handle it?
It all depends on the battery you are using. Make sure that its voltage and peak current don't exceed the motor's ratings.
Hello i finally got my Wheels in and i got a speed controller on it. I'm using a arduino to controller the Speed controller I here beeping once a second but when i go to program the arduino i get nothing from it and it still is beeping once a second. Not sure what to do i do not have one of them PWM controllers like you have. But i can use a arduino to do the same thing. Just not sure what is going on?
I don't think I can help you with it. But I can give you two tips. 1 - learn your ESC. Most of them have some sort of startup sequence designed to avoid injuries related to sudden motor starts at high RPM. 2 - I know that Arduino may produce very low quality PWM due to timing issues caused by interrupts. Make sure that for your purposes of controlling ESC you selected a pin that can produce hardware driven PWM. I hope it helps.
Hello I'm learning it i finally got it up and running. It took me a while to figure out how to get it started. But from what I'm learning the speed that i have will not be enough it is only half of what is required to get the Full speed and power of the motor. I'm buying a new speed controller that fits the Hub motor correctly But i have a question the Humming coming from the motor is that normal on Low speed?
make sure you have enough voltage. these motor wheels need at least 30V
In your opinion Do you need the esc? Or is it possible to run the motor with just an on/off switch? Max rpm only, in one direction? If you stripped all the hall sensor wiring would there be 3 wires left? Positive cw, positive ccw, and ground? I'm not sure because I was under the impression the hall sensor was what drove the motor 4 wires each energized a sequence of coils driving the motor in that direction? Any help is appreciated. Thanks
You do need some sort of brushless DC controller, alternatively you can run these motors using a source of three phase AC of the appropriate voltage (about 50V)
Your assumptions are totally wrong, the three leads connect all to the ends of a three phase coil system, the sensors are just for sensing the position of the magnets so that the right coils can get turned on or off, although most modern ESCs can work sensorless. Just connecting the motor wires to ground would make the motor lock in one position and heat it up very quickly (might even get damaged).
What is the maximum rpm you get in this test?
20/h
what is the voltage applied. i tested one with 12 volts 7a battery and seems something wrong.
12V is too low. These motors need something about 50V. In this video I was using 15V.
Hy, does the controller work as a break as well? Would the breaking power e enough to slow doen a electric scooter?
just buy dc controller 350 watts 36 volts it is 100% match with hooverboard motor
I tried the same with a 11.1 volt 1500mah battery, but the motor just vibrates. What do you recommend for a good solution?
you need more voltage! try at least four cells lipo
thank you!! I will try when I get my 4cell battery
make sure that your ESC can handle the voltage!
Hello Alexander, I have tried to make it run with my new battery, but I still run in to strange behavior. Can you watch my uploaded video an offer me more suggestions?
th-cam.com/video/7ans9jBtMeY/w-d-xo.html
I think you still need more voltage. Try to connect to lipos in series. Make sure your ESC can handle the total voltage.
hi is there any idea for counter rotation of this motor?I mean can we turn the motor in both direction , clockwise and counter clockwise direction
These motors can run any direction just like they do in the original application (hoverboard). Some ESC can drive the motor in both directions, otherwise just swap any two wires to reverse the rotation.
hi, can you tell me which ESC I have to buy for?
manage two brushless motors from 36volt to 350watt (the hoverboard wheels) even if you have a link it would be better !! thank you
I assume you understand that each motor will need its own ESC. 36V 350W gives us about 10A of current. To make it save choose ESC that can handle 15A or more..
Alexander Kolomietz ok, but every time I ask the sellers of ESC answer me that they are not good, there is a line for the 36 volt one ??? would you be so kind to put me an ebay link ?? :)
something like this might work for you www.ebay.com/itm/24-36V-Dual-Motors-Electric-Skateboard-Longbaord-Controller-w-Remote-ESC/232603736744?hash=item3628435aa8:g:eGIAAOSwvD5aOMXT
Alexander Kolomietz tnx :)
@@karacupa can a different controller be used with it?
Dear, I need to control two wells (roverboard) for other propose using arduino. The question is, the well that I have is 42V, This ESC works well? Thanks.
This esc is a smoke machine at 42V
These motors without Hall sensor are pretty much useless. It can spin by those ESC, but they have NO TORQUE in low RPM. So, good luck trying to build something with it.
Not true if your ESC can read back emf like on a drone.
Not true.
Hello,
I am designing a similar circuit, whereby I have the same wheel you do (300W Brushless DC motor), connected through a 40A ESC UBEC 4A, which is controlled through a potentiometer and arduino, instead of a servo tester.
I am having trouble getting the motor to spin, it seems to only vibrate. Do you have any idea why it would act this way?
Something tells me you are applying not enough voltage. What is your battery? You need 4 cells minimum just to barely turn that thing.
@@karacupa I am using a 6s Lipo battery so approx 22.4V. However, I do not need the max power of the wheels and should be ok with 22.4V. I initially thought so myself, so I used a VESC instead of my ESC, and programmed it to draw 20V and 17A, and the wheels did manage to rotate.
@@georgepapasotiriou1708, Oh, 6S should be more than enough for that application. The next thing to check is your ESC then. May be it waits for some sort of safe initiation sequence. Try to run some other brushless motor with that ESC.
@@karacupa I believe I am initializing it correctly, I am following the standard procedure stated by the manufacturer. Do you think it could be the arduino that creates an error?
@@georgepapasotiriou1708 it is quite possible that the problem is in the Arduino. Try to replace it with a servo tester or RC receiver. Controlling servos/ESC with Arduino may be tricky. Make sure you are using the Arduino pins that handle PWM.
Can I use it straight from battery to motor/wheel in my electric bike with 36v batt from hoverboard will it be strong enough to run me (90kg) and my bike(super lightweight alluminium)?
Unfortunately, no. Brushless DC does require a special electronic controller (ESC). I will not run being connected straight to a battery.
@@karacupa I just want one of it in only one direction unregulated
@@hejter7503 no way
@@karacupa and can I use motherboard from that hoverboard to control?
is it working even if motor have load
hey +Alexander Kolomietz at 1.39 the wheel starts and stops, ive had this problem with my hoverboard wheels, do you know what causes this? thanks!
@1:39 the wheel starts and stops because it is driven by a servo tester - a small blue box that has two modes of operation: one mode is when I manually adjust the speed by turning the knob, the second mode is when the tester rump up and down the speed automatically. I can't say what is wrong with your hoverboard. If both wheels are dead most likely the problem is in the main controller or power circuit. If it is just one wheel, check its speed controller, motors windings and hall sensors. Wish you luck.
im driving mine off of an R/C controller, i can get it to turn at high speeds but for slower speeds mine does a start and stop thing like yours does. your video is very helpful though and youve given me some troubleshooting steps. thank you very much
i am pretty sure you just need few extra cells of lypo. it sounds like your setup doesn't have enough voltage. if you switch to a bigger battery, make sure you are using the properly rated ESC.
i'm usind a 60A 10 cell esc though ive only been brave enough to hook up 8 18650's to it so far haha. im hoping to use it to power a fighting robot
8 x 3.7 V is more than enough, so the voltage is not an issue. check your ESC. many of them are programmable with some automatic cut off settings..
I tried this with 3 different ESC's and cant get it to work. One was a Hawk 50a airplane esc similar to the one in the video, one was a hobbywing 150a car esc and one was a trackstar 60a car esc (sensored) that one actually spun the motor, but it wasn't smooth. The other two esc's would just chatter. tried swapping motor wires with no success.
Robert Greene, I tried the same thing with esc as you said, it didn`t work. Then i bought a 5-36v bldc controller (sensored) it worked quite well. Highly recommended
Onur Dokmetas I finally ended up using a fsesc skateboard controller. Took me about two hours to program it the way I wanted it but it works really well.
Probably would have been cheaper to get a hoverboard mainboard and use the hacked firmware to control the motors through it
deejayantz the FSESC is $72 and it’s awesome. Worth the money.
@@dokmetasonur could you please reply the full name of the esc you used and from where did you buy it? Regards
A very basic question - this is a DC 3 phase brushless motor right ? or is it an AC motor?
Base*Radius This is a brashness DC
Okay great.. so with your setup, are you using the inputs from the hall effect sensors .. or is just driving the motor? How does it time the coil energizing?
In this setup I am not readying from the hall sensors, I am just turning the motor...
and it works without needing to read the hall sensors it seems.. pretty cool.. I'm going to try this .. good job dude :)
congratulations, nice video, the wheel reaches its maximum speed with the battery 4 s? or if it were powered at 36 volts with a special controller would it run faster?
Yes it would go significantly faster and have way more torque at low rpms
if this battery working if i use wheel-motor 250W-24v if yes how long it can work?
I have the same one, but when I tried to run it on 7,4v battery with 2s controller, it started spinning but it stops every 3 seconds and don't spin more (sorry for bad English). What should I try to run my motor smoothly without stopping?
Вам не хватает напряжения. Нужно, как минимум 14В. Попробуйте четыре банки аккумулятора. Не забудьте проверить, что Ваш ESC рассчитан на такое напряжение.
Alexander Kolomietz Thanks, I'll try this
Wow!! Needed this video! Witch wires did you hook up?
You will see three wires from the motor and few (may be six) from the hall sensors. If you want just to run the motor you can ignore the hall sensors. So use three wires from the motor and connect it to any of the three output terminals of the ESC. When you switch any two wires the motor changes the direction.
ok! thanks man
Which one one the wires is a ? B ? And C ?
@@stevenlim6157i think it doesnt care
How did you rig this
what tension do you put on the esc
el motor en vacio gasta unos 10 watts 4 celdas son 4x4,2 =unos 16 volt
This is max speed?
Привет. Какой принцип подсоединения трех проводов, на них же не достаточно просто подать напряжение с батареи?не разобратся как оно работает
Привет. Для подключения необходим специальный контроллер. Он отключается двумя способами. Или звездой. Или треугольника.
@@karacupa, то есть эти три провода - три фазы?
to increase rpm can i use a 36 volts battery ?
Yes you can. Just make sure your ESC can handle this voltage.
i bought a 40A esc and it doesnt fit the ports on the segway motor or the battery
If it is a brushless DC motor ESC it should have three outputs. Just connect them to your motor's leads. Swapping any two wires will change the rotation direction.
May i know the spec of the hoverboard motor you are using
Pleasee
I think this is 36 volt 650 watt motor
What happens if you use a 5s battery and esc?
What ESC? This motor will easily handle 5S. It can handle 10S. Check your ESC ratings.
Hey guys, I got my hoverboard new and after 20 minutes the side of the wheel was very hot. So my question is, is it normal and can you still ride on it when the side of the wheel is very hot? Please help
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Enes Celebi its because you ride so long
Thats normal
San po pwede ipagawa sirang hoverboard
Hey, I know this is late but is there any aditional scripting that needs to go into this? Or is it all in the servo tester
Just a battery, ESC and servo tester.
@@saadtiwana Thanks! I can finally complete my project after three years.
@@drewmileham202 Good luck with that.
Btw do you have any numbers on the amount of torque your motor can produce? Thinking of using one of those on a project requiring higher torques.
How fast does it go? What is it's RPM/V rating?
could you link the ESC'c used?
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Tem proble se usar ele dessa forma até a bateria acabar ?
I'm using a hoverboard engine and a HK Esc and the engine is not spinning
Wow your hover board is so special it uses an engine?
hi where i can to buy wheel and esc thanks
For my application I require forward & reverse. How do I achieve this please ?
RC car ESCs have reverse.
What does the hall effect sensor do?
It tells the controller the exact angular position of the wheel
@@karacupa is it really needed if just using on a scooter or bike of some kind?
Diy in the Ghetto, as long as you are not going to to build a self balancing board, you don’t need the Hall effect sensors
@@karacupa thank you.
You should try using the original battery
I used a smaller battery because my ESC was rated for 4 cells only
thx
Alexander Kolomietz oh that makes sense
Christian Wang I am trying to build a longboard with these wheels, but I don't know if I should use the original battery or not. Why choose for the original battery?
i am trying the same thing and wondering what esc i should use with the original battery, could u help!
Not a very useful test unless you put some load on it
Omg I'm so stupid I was tryna figure out what esc to use for that motor the whole time
one video for electric skateboard hub motor conntected this system
Hi man! I have 3cell 1400 mAh 65C Li-Po Battery, like yours servo tester, like yours wheel and 40A ESC . i tried run system like yours but my wheel verry slowly. What can I do?
You need higher voltage! Go for 6 cell lipo and you'll be fine.
You have 4cell li-po and you have high speed i have 3 cell but my wheel very very very slow. My wheel is like yours.
You need higher voltage. Go for 6 cell lipo. Make sure your ESC can handle it.
merhaba emre motoru sürebildinmi bende şuan aynı sıkıntııy yaşıyorum
Hey im a noob at these things but could a 12v car battery drive the wheel and would the esc function with it? (Im 10 years old)
One car battery is not enough to drive these motors. You need at least two, better yet, three such batteries connected in series to achieve the required voltage. Make sure your ESC can handle the voltage. Wish you luck
Alexander Kolomietz Thanks! Im probably gonna use a self built 6s lipo.
Alexander Kolomietz and one more thing. Do i need some special cells or can i use 4 UltraFire 18650 cells?
I would recommend to bump it up to 10 cells. It will give your about 33V. These motors are rated about 350Wt so your expected current will be just a little bit more than 10A. Make sure that your cells can handle that current.
Alexander Kolomietz oh ok!
What is the max. rpm for this motor?
580 no load
Hello dear
how you get to go in rev
I've been looking for 4 of those wheels to put on my push mower and have an RC mower.
these wheels should work fine in your application
do you know a good cheap place to buy them?
eBay?
Did you find a esc?
Me too man!!! That's my next project...have you started this project yet?
Can i use a 60a esc to control 2 Hoverboard motor because u used a 30a esc to control a single motor.
you can't control two motors with one esc
I want servo tester operates in the engine in both directions
You should have put a sign on the wheel (a paper, a sign drawn with chalk), something that we can see the speed of rotation .
i want to put this to friction drive my bicycle wheel!!
did you ever do that,
i had that idea the other day.
Sorry. My English is a little weak. What I would like to say; Cancel the hall sensor on the device and connect it throttle instead. How can I do it. Thank you.
The wheel-motor has two hall sensors installed. These are small black plastic components with three leads each glued into the body of the motor. For simple applications where you don't care about precise positioning of the motor, you can ignore them, don't connect to anything, leave the leads opened. They are not needed to drive the motor. Connect three thick wires from the motor' windings to the output of your ESC. That is all you need. Swap any two wires to change the spin direction.
How much torque did you have with your 4 cell battery? Thanks
I can't say. I dint try the torque.
Is it not reversible?
It all depends on the ESC. The controller is this vid is not reversible.
Alexander Kolomietz so its the controller that is only 1 way. also that esc looks a tad small for that motor. my math on a 3s is about 30a draw? is there a lot of heat. I'm building a robomower and these might fit the bill perfectly
I used whatever ESC was around just for the purpose of demonstration. For sure it is too small to drive this motor at full power.
Alexander Kolomietz thank you. I never thought of the hoverboard motors till I saw this vdeo
Hoverboards are manufactured in such quantities, that its components are probably the most cost effective on the market..
Amigo puedo conectar este motor directo a la batería... Sin controlador?
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Buenos dias donde consigo eso para aselerar
hy boss i want to but this kic
شكرا
Это плохой пример, так как регулятор вкачает ток в обмотки мотора превышающий максимальный для этого мотора.
мотор без нагрузки много тока не возьмет. кроме того у регулятора есть ограничение тока.
Alexander Kolomietz конечно без нагрузки не возьмет, речь идет о нагрузке...мотор 36 вольт 10 ампер, 350 Вт максимум. Регулятор на 30 ампер легко вкачает и 25.
Это наспех слепленное демо из подручных компонентов, а не просчитанный дизайн функционального устройства ) Нагрузка не предполагалась..
Results?????? Rpm.... torque??? Other wise this video is useless.
pas valable l esc va se mettre en sécurité sans arrét ou va cramer !
It will burn be soon
When we loaded on it😊
i know somebody is going to do a weapon...with that some day
this is really?please
pz make video 👇
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one video for electric skateboard hub motor conntected this system
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