Apologies for the video cut off at the end. I have no clue why or how that happened, my guess is that it was something during the uploading process that affected it
@@drömstorm it's good for retention? I guess that's a good thing then?? To be honest it was just my little outros that I normally do so I'm glad it wasn't anything vital
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I think that he took Clancy’s name. I know self titled isn’t completely lore related but in trap door he sings “nobody knows his real name, but now he just uses what he saw on a grave”. This is my belief and I’m going to stick by it
"We are Twenty-One-Pilots and so are you!" 'I am Clancy.... and so are you' we can all be Clancy as we escape from our own Dema. I am going to make a wild guess and say they MAY end their concert/album with 'We are Clancy' or some such statement
This aligns with my thinking of Clancy. Blurryface (nico/ and the bishops) represent Tyler's insecurities his fear etc. I think Clancy is the opposite. He represents his confidence, his will to live, and creativity. Clancy is the embodiment of the will to escape and conquer (or at least keep fighting) Dema.
the way tyler says I am a citizen, I am an escapee, I am Clancy. Sounds like progressive titles. He went from being a citizen of dema living his life within the city, then one day he attempted an escape and did it again and again making him an escapee, now hes finally successfully escaped and takes the name clancy like the others who have made it out
Also, in the SAI livestream, Lisden and Sacarver call him Tyler Joseph. And that livestream is credited as being canon. Just another piece of evidence!
Great breakdown, dema. I have a lot to think about now. Also, when you mention this it doesn't fully seem like you've acknowledged that Nicolas Bourbaki is also a real life example of a group of people all using the same pseudonym. If that is co-occurring with "Clancy" being a group pseudonym it holds a lot of implications!
What if Clancy is supposed to be some sort of Christ figure in the DEMA storyline who died for the people? That would explain why we see multiple people identifying as Clancy (similar to how Christians die to self and put their identity in Christ) and explains the lyrics “It’s only time before they show me why no one ever comes back with details from beyond” (similar to how a lot of Christians don’t go back to where they were before becoming Christian) and “I have killed a man and all I know” (Tyler’s belief that he is the reason why Clancy died.) In the Overcompensate music video Tyler is wearing clothes that resemble religious attire of a pastor and is teaching the people (similar to how Christians believe in sharing the gospel). Since Tyler and Josh are both Christians, this makes a lot of sense to me, but y’all let me know what you think
This was great! When you first announced you'd be making this video I wasn't sure what you were going to make of the whole 'Tyler isn’t Clancy' thing, but you did a fantastic job! Not only that, but with the way you explained it, and the way this one bit of lore affects core components of the other lore, I am so glad I saw this video. Your reasonings make sense and I believe what you said is most likely true or at least partially true with the evidence presented.
I'm glad you enjoyed! I honestly used to be a large sceptic of this theory but, as time went on, it became the only explanation for me that plugged the glaringly obvious plot holes.
11:22 Another way would unfortunately be by making a name irrelevant because someone is no longer alive. She had plans to die thus changing from alive to dead or "her name was..." rather than "her name is..." It is much darker and sadder, but given the context of the song, it makes sense.
I think it makes perfect sense that Clancy is a pseudoname or symbol that escapees use. And even just on the level that the entire album is named Clancy, it makes way more sense for that to by symbolical and represent way more than just one person named Clancy.
I loved fhe video! Hearing the theory made me think of the "he goes by Nico, he told me I'm a copy" lyric in Morph. Assuming that the first, original Clancy is dead, and his death is being used as a way to take away the hope of the Dema citizens, telling Tyler that he's merely a copy of Clancy is a way to stop him? "When I'd hear him mock me, that's almost stopped me"
Of course "I'll morph to someone else" most closely resembles Tyler's new psychokinesis ability, but could it be a metaphor for transforming oneself into Clancy upon the decision to escape Dema?
That's a very interesting addition! Especially that Nico could potentially be mocking the fact that Tyler has taken on that legacy to escape "you aren't the first and you won't be the last. None of you have succeeded"
Watch the last video of this Era be "We Are Clancy". 😮 This theory low key made me go 🤯. What if a group of people operating under the pseudonym Clancy is a way to counteract the others operating under Nicholas Bourbaki. Makes sense in the theme of reclaiming and counteracting that seems to be so present this Era.
Hello, just wanted to say that the sound at the start of bandito isnt a typewriter, its the clicking sound of the keyboard preset that's used for the melody (a virtual keyboard library called keyscape that tyler and paul use). Its part of the sound rather than an added effect as vintage Rhodes keyboards make those sounds. good theory though, interested to see how it pans out with the album
Thank you! I remember when it was first released a lot of people were comparing it to a typewriter, so I thought that was the case. Interesting that the clocking was intentionally added in
Pretty much. The whole purpose of Clancy is dead as propaganda is to demotivate the Banditos (who had Clancy as their origin of being inspired to escape) and potential escapees, but the propaganda falls incredibly short if Tyler is well known as Clancy because he's being paraded around as Dema's poster boy during Sai.
The Self-Titled album has a theory that Clancy is dead. The album is a story as heard in IOFB. Long story short: the album is about the main character's friend who eventually commits suicide (A Car, A Torch, A Death) Basically my theory is that Clancy IS dead. But in Trapdoor, Tyler sees Clancy's name on his grave. "Nobody knows his real name, But now he just uses one he saw on a grave" - Trapdoor
I totally thought a similar thing about Redecorate! Nice catch, glad people are talking about it! Now after Overcompansate it seems like its not only a pseduname (where it is related to more than one person), but Tyler is trying to teach all of us to become more like Clancy.
Interesting 🧐 Mark said on Twitter he can’t divulge the red headed boy Tyler seizes in Overcompensate. He said he’s not “the original Clancy.” I’m going with the pseudonym theory of We Are All Clancy.
this is a FANTASTIC VIDEO!!! i really enjoy seeing your opinions and theories on this kind of stuff! i honestly don’t know what to think anymore haha😅 hopefully this album will give us an definitive answer. great job, and thanks for working hard for us 💜💜💜
Aaaaa thank you! I find it incredibly funny how divisive this one has been; people either agree or don't (imo, I never used to believe this theory until the end of sai because it explained a lot of the glaringly obvious plot holes). Now let's just hope Mr Joseph doesn't make the lore even more complicated
This is fabulous! Thanks for all your diligence in sifting through the clues and music to find the thread that coheres them! Your theory adds a dimension to my understanding. Wow!
I love your videos! You are so very sweet and interactive with your audience, and a gem for supporting Tyler and Josh on their journey, in and out of the story they’re telling! Keep doing what you love
Aaaaa tysm for this comment! I absolutely love interacting with the community - it was honestly the reason I started this channel in the first place - so thank you for watching and interacting!
This video is pure gold, I never thought of the Clancy lore like this but it actually makes so much sense. Hopefully you make lore videos for all of the songs from the new album once it comes out 😁 keep up the good work!
My theory goes all out to self-titled, more specifically to trapdoor, the first verse says "He wakes up early today, throws on a mask that will alter his face. Nobody knows his real name, but now he just uses one he saw on a grave." For me the most valid theory is that Clancy was someone, someone that got recognition for they exploits and letters, he was the most likely to escape from DEMA so he got known by both citizens and bishops, the bishops captured him and he most likely died. But he still got so much progress with his letters and whatnot, so people that tries to escape uses the name of Clancy so when the Banditos and the Torchbearer get the information that Clancy is out there they will reach a fake Clancy. That will explain for example the Jumpsuit bit in which Clancy saw Tyler trying to escape, it was probably another Clancy, another person that was using their name. After that maybe he got captured or who knows, Tyler probably got knowledge about the letters and now he is the one using their name so the Torchbearer will go to him and he can escape. Then when he got the power of seizing he decides instead of finally being free, turning back to DEMA to free everyone once and for all, taking possession of the red color instead of running away of it and destroying the city from the inside.
I’ve had a theory that Clancy isn’t a singular person (as stated in the video) for a while, and seeing someone else speak about it and going deeper into the information is so helpful. It’s gives so much more understanding to the theory and actually backs it up, thank you ❤️
this changed my perspective, for a while i was stuck in my opinion that tyler was always clancy, and that evidence explained away discrepancies. but especially the analysis of redecorate makes sense to me. i had wondered why there would be so many different perspectives, it had to be intentional, but for it to talk about previous “clancys” that all committed to vialism fully,,, it is deep and impactful. it definitely shifted how i think of clancy, thank you
I think maybe the original Clancy who wrote the letters was one who tried to escape but never succeeded, eventually dying within Dema. Maybe Clancy is the tragic story that has become a rallying cry for the Banditos, and maybe Tyler is writing new letters under his name to continue his legacy. This might also explain the more religious imagery. Tyler wearing a stole that says clancy’s name could be a form of almost religious veneration for the original Clancy.
One thing i keep thinking of as well.... the Christmas Saves the Year photo of Tyler as a kid with the gift behind him.... The name on the gift is Clancy. However, on Next Semester he says "i was born right here just now originated right in front of your eyes". That contradiction has me absolutely baffled lol. Theories are so much fun for me but sometimes putting them together makes my head hurt lol
Tyler seemingly refers to himself as Clancy since SAI due to the dmaorg letters from that time aligning with his experience. Speculation is that "born right here right now" is Clancy stepping up as the Bandito leader. His true identity as a leader was born right there and then
Thinking about the lyric from Redecorate: “I don’t want to go like this at least let me clean my room.” I feel like it could be Clancy waiting for the Bishops to come collect him from his cell in Dema when they were forcing him to create entertainment for Dema. It could also refer to when the people of Trench came to rescue Tyler because they needed him out there again. Just a thought…
this is what i have been thinking on for quite a while, ever since i first started getting into the lore around the sai era. im glad there's some explainable backup to my theory now since i could NEVER explain myself 💃
Firstly, the editing in this video is so good! I really apreciatte the effort you put in your videos! Secondly, I completely agree with this theory, it makes so much sense! I'd like to add one additional evidency: Nicolas Bourbaki is a pseudonym used by the Bourbaki group in their work, so it makes sense that Clancy would also be a pseudonym. And if there was an original Nicolas Bourbaki (aka Nico), then it's reasonable to believe there was an original Clancy
I think that the dead Clancy could be Keons because is the only one we literally see helping Tyler with the seizing and being murdered for it... And after that, the next thing we see is the lore-bomb about Tyler taking the name... but idk, the story about the girl sounds good too xd
This theory can explain the song Legend from Trench. It could be a song Tyler wrote for the original (or classic) Clancy. It may also be related to the fact that the main villain of the Dema storyline is named after a pseudo name (Nicolas Bourbaki), and that he himself has a pseudo name, Blurryface. There are pseudo-names all over this lore!!!!
Something that has stuck with me and kind of nagged at my brain ever since the "I am Clancy" video came out is when he called Vialism a "highjacked" religion. It implies that it was at one time something more benevolent. After all, whether we like it or not we are all "Vessels" for something. Light or darkness. What if those who it was hijacked from were driven underground and forced to use a pseudonym...like Clancy. This could also flesh out Keons some. He may have been a leftover from the previous era of leadership and why he was considered a more benevolent bishop. Also, could explain who the Banditos are. They were the ones who saw the writing on the wall and got out in the early days of the takeover. Just some of my own theories. I think what we are seeing in this era is about restoration. Not necessarily destruction. Restoration of Dema to a place where it's citizens have free will to make choices based on truth rather than the prison it currently is based on manipulation. It really is a powerful allegory for both our own minds as individuals and for the society we live in. Great video! Thank you for your hard work!
This theory does make sense, and I'd link it to the ending of the 'outside' music video, on the other hand I think 'Redecorate' was about the boy and girl who found Tyler's jacket lying on the ground in 'Nico & the Niners' music video🤔
It seems like Clancy can be seen as a Christ figure, sacrificing himself for the other banditos and Tyler is now taking upon himself the name of Clancy (Christ), like disciples did in scripture to fulfill his purposes. Also, the bishops killing him and advertising his death is synonymous with the Romans killing Jesus and thinking they had won, until Easter :)
Wow! Really well done! I love the theories. Only thing I would add is the line from redecorate, "he might have made it if he lived on a different street" I think this is referring to the video goner that was filmed on Clancy st. Essentially saying if he was a Clancy or lived on that street he could have escaped dema. Let me know what you guys think 😁
I come a decade-long outside observer of the lore. Twenty One Pilots is Christian propaganda. Because overt Christian messaging is not usually seen in pop culture, the duo is attempting to evangelize with Christian symbolism. Vialism=Zoroastrianism (a major belief system predating Christianity). Tyler says that 'ending your life and impacting as many people as you can with that act' is the main idea of this religion. And the audience is supposed to figure out why this religion is bad. Obviously, he is covertly referring to Jesus, who would embody the antithesis of this idea. The entire lore is a means of evangelizing secular people who get invested in it. And Tyler has likely been in great distress over the situation he's found himself in being an evangelist/celebrity. In Goner, he wants to be "known by you." That's it. Blurryface is the performer. The person the people see as a public figure. He wants that. But he wants to be known by God, as Tyler. In trying to have it both ways, it's obvious that he's found himself in the trenches with heathens. He is now overcompensating for all the blasphemy by embodying the Clancy figure he's built up. "If you can’t see, I am Clancy." Yet he's clearly narrorating just as Tyler. He's saying HE is Clancy. And who is Clancy? Blurryface. In Goner, he says: "Blurry's the one I'm not I need your help to take him out" Ive always interpreted the entire album as being directed at two subjects: YOU, the listener, and God. He speaks as Blurryface, hoping you'll hear his cries to God instead of his plea for attention. You heard his plea for attention. The songs he wrote were never heard. Clancy is the extension of what he feels he's become: an idol. And what is this character? A heroic figure who returns from the dead to save the people of a world in which he also created. And I'll just leave it at that.
I love this. I posted a theory on Reddit after Overcompensate came out stating that Clancy is not Tyler and that Clancy is dead. To expand on that to say Clancy was an attempted escapee and now used as a pseudonym fits perfectly.
If theres any dema video that the pilots would comment on, i think its this one. This goes so deep its really amazing! If this is true, it will literally change EVERYTHING. Thanks dema! This is insane!
came here when i started the simone weil is clancy video and i have some thoughts. Take this with a grain of salt because im not super deep into the lore and only know surface level stuff. I think Tyler might be the original Clancy, and others took that name as described in the video. I like to try and keep in mind that this is all a metaphor for mental health, and Tyler being the first Clancy, and others following him in his journey to escape Dema (depression/ negative mental space) is a representation of the band. The clique are the other Clancy's. We saw Tyler making it out, or trying to make it out and it inspired us and saved us in our own fight with our own bishops. I think Clancy is a moniker for Tyler as well, in the Trench lore probably for the same reasons as you stated (to try and hide his true identity) or trying to be a figure that motivates people to leave dema (as we see in overcompensate) but in metaphor it could be the band. Tyler and Josh's names arent Twenty One Pilots, but they take on that moniker to inspire us and become apart of a group. As they say in every show They are Twenty one pilots and so are we. They are Clancy and so are we.
alight so I have a story when u was in I think 8th or 9th grade is when trench came out and before hand I was paying attention to everything about dmaorg and Clancy and I became so interested on who this character was then was trench finally came out there was no mention of Clancy and I was disappointed so I decided hey what if I made my own story about Clancy so I came up with the story of Clancy it was a passion project of mine that I did all throughout high school I never finished it tho I got like 70 to 80 “chapters” in and like a 100 pages and it was really not great and cringe but ever sense then Clancy has always felt apart of me and when people were saying Tyler was Clancy I was a little bummed because I always thought of Clancy as there own person and to see it was just Tyler the entire time just made me story fell more and more like a fan fiction which is what I tried avoid doing but now I am certain that there was an original Clancy don’t know anything about him other than he’s the original escapee the one who started it all but it makes me happy that my dumb little story that I started as a kid was still somewhat true
If clancy is multiple people who could explain why the bishops said "Clany is dead" back in SAI as if they were trying to say "we can kill one, if you we could do it again" but i dont think that clancy died as we know Tyler/Clancy can posses a body and stay there for as long as he needs but as long as hes in that other persons body anything could happen to his real body thats why i think in overcompensate it wasnt actully him singing as clancy, but the dead clancy taking control of tyler's vacent body to say "i may be physically dead but im still here" so when tyler leaves dead clancy is in controll but when tyler is there dead clancy is just a thought this could also make sense as tyler has a "weak mind" and be easly swayed to do something or be controlled by someone as we saw in jumpsuit until others has do come and physically intervaine
I've been thinking that Clancy is supposed to represent the clique, and if we are all Clancy that all but confirms it It does make me wonder why Tyler also calls himself Clancy because he's not really part of the clique... but in Johnny Boy he does say "I will carry all your names"
I really like your theory. I totally follow this thought process. A thought occurred to me while listening, and I need to preface that I once was a religious human but don't consider myself to be anymore... however, my thought was (if Tyler is still a religious person which he seemed to be) what if "Clancy" is like... Jesus/spirituality? And the propaganda(SAI) is religious institutions? Every time I've heard Never Take It I think of the religion I grew up in and the MEN who were old and had fake teeth that told everyone what to do and how to do it. Your comment, there was an original Clancy and that the others are taking on his name made me think of how people feel about Jesus or any other type or religious idol. A lot of people have also mentioned that in Next Semester the guy who says to "get out of the road" could be like "god"? I don't know where I'm going with this, but, I came here really to say I like your theory & thought process :)
Top tier production, Dema ❤ I'm on the side saying that Tyler is not Clancy. I think what we see in dema storyline is about a character, a protagonist. In can be what you say in this video - Clancy as a name that can be taken by the one who wants to escape. Personally, I don't think the story is about Mr. Joseph himself in the first place. Of course, he can identify with Clancy, just like anyone of us, I mean identifying with the one who fights with bishops, with their own insecurities. Then, yes - Tyler is Clancy. I am Clancy. You are Clancy as well. But in the dema storyline meaning, Clancy is a character, being the main hero of the story. Tyler is an actor who plays this character. Just like Josh is an actor who plays Torchbearer. Considering that Tyler is a Christian, Clancy name can be something similar (of course not exact) to Jesus' name - a name that God took when he decided to come to Earth as human being (considering that God and Jesus are the same thing - Holy Trinity). Anyway, love the video and the effort you always put in. Thank you ❤❤❤
I can tell you what Clancy is about. finding your own inner child back, return to self (your original unviolated blueprint) restore your mental health by looking from a 'new' perspective, from back in the days before mommy sang us 'to sleep' (their perspectives, parents) they tried but we kids are born here with a great purpose and we are always listening to others opinions and forget about why we came to earth as souls. the bishops managed to have us in their control, fear of god but we all are gods, together we form god along with nature.
im only halfway through the video, so apologies if this as already addressed, but i think somewhere i saw that nico is sometimes a collective name for the bishops, as well as being one of the bishops, just like how blurryface is not just one bishop, but all of them, so maybe nico is a pseudonym much like clancy
@@Good_Day_Dema unfortunately i have no clue where i heard it, i think i made it up lol. im pretty sure i got it from the blurryface album cover, and how under the case thing for the cd, it makes a face, and then somehow i linked that to the bishops as a collective are known as blurryface. then in the I Am Clancy video, tyler/clancy says something like "Nico, or blurryface, he calls himself" and then i must have linked them. kinda unrelated but i thought id throw in a little theory on how nico might be a form of god, known as the Father (physical embodiment of nico as a bishop), the son (Controlling Clancy) and the Holy Spirit (the 9 bishops) anyway tldr: Blurryface album cover shows all the bishops as a face, nico calls himself blurryface (sorry if none of this made sense, i my brain basically spat this all out onto the screen)
All of us being Clancy makes sense give the end of the, ‘Overcompensate,’ music video is Tyler doing the, ‘Death Drop,’ with his Clancy mask on, but when they pull that off? It’s not Tyler anymore. It’s a girl who we’ve not seen before in earlier parts of story before now.
hi! are you maybe planning to make a video abt Next Semester? i was looking forward to it since the drop of the song. i found your account pretty recently and i really appreciate your content - fantastic approach
Yep! I've started writing the script today for it and I'm planning to print out the lyrics for language analysis also today. I just wanted to get this vid out the way because I've been working on it basically for two years lmao. But hopefully I should have it out within two weeks max. I think next semester shouldn't be as long of a video considering it's not as cryptic as overcompensate
I love your videos. I am special needs. I love TOP. Team Tyler here. A Ned fan. Your videos. Are so easy to understand and follow a long with. Ty for creating and. Keep creating. ❤❤
I'm glad you find my videos easy to watch! It's always been an aim of mine to have my videos accessible to all. Thank you for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment
Apologies for the video cut off at the end. I have no clue why or how that happened, my guess is that it was something during the uploading process that affected it
A good mistake for retention. Good vid btw.
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@@drömstorm it's good for retention? I guess that's a good thing then?? To be honest it was just my little outros that I normally do so I'm glad it wasn't anything vital
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@@Good_Day_Dema ok thanks a lot 👍 I'll be waiting for the next discord song video then 😎
I think that he took Clancy’s name. I know self titled isn’t completely lore related but in trap door he sings “nobody knows his real name, but now he just uses what he saw on a grave”. This is my belief and I’m going to stick by it
And you would be right
@-.jasperz.jawzZ.- self titled isn't lore related but Tyler definitely took Clancy's name
@-.jasperz.jawzZ.- there’s very little parts that he took from self titled but if you listen closely you’ll be like “OH MY GOSH”
Yeah I feel like he went back to some of his older works and took inspiration from them
This makes way too much sense. Also makes me think of Nico and us not knowing his "real" name
"We are Twenty-One-Pilots and so are you!" 'I am Clancy.... and so are you' we can all be Clancy as we escape from our own Dema. I am going to make a wild guess and say they MAY end their concert/album with 'We are Clancy' or some such statement
That's what I thought too!
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My exact thought
This is my thought too. Clancy is less a name and more of a title.
I actually love the idea that there was an original Clancy and now it’s a name that many use in Trench.
This aligns with my thinking of Clancy. Blurryface (nico/ and the bishops) represent Tyler's insecurities his fear etc. I think Clancy is the opposite. He represents his confidence, his will to live, and creativity. Clancy is the embodiment of the will to escape and conquer (or at least keep fighting) Dema.
the way tyler says
I am a citizen, I am an escapee, I am Clancy. Sounds like progressive titles. He went from being a citizen of dema living his life within the city, then one day he attempted an escape and did it again and again making him an escapee, now hes finally successfully escaped and takes the name clancy like the others who have made it out
Yes
Also, in the SAI livestream, Lisden and Sacarver call him Tyler Joseph. And that livestream is credited as being canon. Just another piece of evidence!
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the Sai livestream
Great breakdown, dema. I have a lot to think about now. Also, when you mention this it doesn't fully seem like you've acknowledged that Nicolas Bourbaki is also a real life example of a group of people all using the same pseudonym. If that is co-occurring with "Clancy" being a group pseudonym it holds a lot of implications!
You mention a brilliant point about pseudonyms being a common theme in trench lore!
The idea that there multiple Clancy’s is so awesome
I'm Clancy, you're Clancy, he's Clancy, we're all clancy
@@Good_Day_DemaAnd when at the end of the concerts this era Tyler says 'I am clancy and so are you' what then..
@@georgelinford5576 and then everyone will proceed to get tattoos saying so! lol
What if Clancy is supposed to be some sort of Christ figure in the DEMA storyline who died for the people? That would explain why we see multiple people identifying as Clancy (similar to how Christians die to self and put their identity in Christ) and explains the lyrics “It’s only time before they show me why no one ever comes back with details from beyond” (similar to how a lot of Christians don’t go back to where they were before becoming Christian) and “I have killed a man and all I know” (Tyler’s belief that he is the reason why Clancy died.) In the Overcompensate music video Tyler is wearing clothes that resemble religious attire of a pastor and is teaching the people (similar to how Christians believe in sharing the gospel). Since Tyler and Josh are both Christians, this makes a lot of sense to me, but y’all let me know what you think
This was great! When you first announced you'd be making this video I wasn't sure what you were going to make of the whole 'Tyler isn’t Clancy' thing, but you did a fantastic job! Not only that, but with the way you explained it, and the way this one bit of lore affects core components of the other lore, I am so glad I saw this video. Your reasonings make sense and I believe what you said is most likely true or at least partially true with the evidence presented.
I'm glad you enjoyed! I honestly used to be a large sceptic of this theory but, as time went on, it became the only explanation for me that plugged the glaringly obvious plot holes.
11:22 Another way would unfortunately be by making a name irrelevant because someone is no longer alive. She had plans to die thus changing from alive to dead or "her name was..." rather than "her name is..." It is much darker and sadder, but given the context of the song, it makes sense.
I think it makes perfect sense that Clancy is a pseudoname or symbol that escapees use. And even just on the level that the entire album is named Clancy, it makes way more sense for that to by symbolical and represent way more than just one person named Clancy.
I loved fhe video! Hearing the theory made me think of the "he goes by Nico, he told me I'm a copy" lyric in Morph.
Assuming that the first, original Clancy is dead, and his death is being used as a way to take away the hope of the Dema citizens, telling Tyler that he's merely a copy of Clancy is a way to stop him? "When I'd hear him mock me, that's almost stopped me"
Of course "I'll morph to someone else" most closely resembles Tyler's new psychokinesis ability, but could it be a metaphor for transforming oneself into Clancy upon the decision to escape Dema?
That's a very interesting addition! Especially that Nico could potentially be mocking the fact that Tyler has taken on that legacy to escape "you aren't the first and you won't be the last. None of you have succeeded"
Watch the last video of this Era be "We Are Clancy". 😮
This theory low key made me go 🤯. What if a group of people operating under the pseudonym Clancy is a way to counteract the others operating under Nicholas Bourbaki. Makes sense in the theme of reclaiming and counteracting that seems to be so present this Era.
Hello, just wanted to say that the sound at the start of bandito isnt a typewriter, its the clicking sound of the keyboard preset that's used for the melody (a virtual keyboard library called keyscape that tyler and paul use). Its part of the sound rather than an added effect as vintage Rhodes keyboards make those sounds. good theory though, interested to see how it pans out with the album
Thank you! I remember when it was first released a lot of people were comparing it to a typewriter, so I thought that was the case. Interesting that the clocking was intentionally added in
So maybe Clancy DID die, just the original one not Tyler
Pretty much. The whole purpose of Clancy is dead as propaganda is to demotivate the Banditos (who had Clancy as their origin of being inspired to escape) and potential escapees, but the propaganda falls incredibly short if Tyler is well known as Clancy because he's being paraded around as Dema's poster boy during Sai.
The Self-Titled album has a theory that Clancy is dead.
The album is a story as heard in IOFB.
Long story short: the album is about the main character's friend who eventually commits suicide
(A Car, A Torch, A Death)
Basically my theory is that Clancy IS dead. But in Trapdoor, Tyler sees Clancy's name on his grave.
"Nobody knows his real name, But now he just uses one he saw on a grave"
- Trapdoor
I totally thought a similar thing about Redecorate! Nice catch, glad people are talking about it! Now after Overcompansate it seems like its not only a pseduname (where it is related to more than one person), but Tyler is trying to teach all of us to become more like Clancy.
I love the documentary style intro!
Interesting 🧐 Mark said on Twitter he can’t divulge the red headed boy Tyler seizes in Overcompensate. He said he’s not “the original Clancy.” I’m going with the pseudonym theory of We Are All Clancy.
this is a FANTASTIC VIDEO!!! i really enjoy seeing your opinions and theories on this kind of stuff! i honestly don’t know what to think anymore haha😅 hopefully this album will give us an definitive answer. great job, and thanks for working hard for us 💜💜💜
Aaaaa thank you! I find it incredibly funny how divisive this one has been; people either agree or don't (imo, I never used to believe this theory until the end of sai because it explained a lot of the glaringly obvious plot holes). Now let's just hope Mr Joseph doesn't make the lore even more complicated
I hope twenty one pilots or someone puts all the songs that add up into the lore together and turn it into a movie it would be sick
On it
@@Good_Day_Dema wait what! wait what? 😭 Thank you!! 🙏
Jadynn spotted again
@@gooblanoidlol noooo!!
I love your longer detailed videos! I really hope that Tyler and Josh see this :)
Aaaa thank you! I hope they see this one day too :D
This is fabulous! Thanks for all your diligence in sifting through the clues and music to find the thread that coheres them! Your theory adds a dimension to my understanding. Wow!
After watching this my brain hears "We are Clancy and so are you"
You will see me on the news if this becomes the new tour slogan
@@Good_Day_Dema would that not be the coolest!?
If they say that during the tour…
How about the line in Overcompensate "don't sleep on a boy who can fall asleep twice"? It's possible only if Clancy is actually few people..
I love your videos! You are so very sweet and interactive with your audience, and a gem for supporting Tyler and Josh on their journey, in and out of the story they’re telling! Keep doing what you love
Aaaaa tysm for this comment! I absolutely love interacting with the community - it was honestly the reason I started this channel in the first place - so thank you for watching and interacting!
@@Good_Day_Dema YASSSS CLIQUE GOTTA STAY TOGETHER! We’re FAMILY!
@@xx-nekoxd-xx AGREED
This video is pure gold, I never thought of the Clancy lore like this but it actually makes so much sense. Hopefully you make lore videos for all of the songs from the new album once it comes out 😁 keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting, it's greatly appreciated!
As for more lore videos, I'll have one out on next semester tomorrow:D
My theory goes all out to self-titled, more specifically to trapdoor, the first verse says "He wakes up early today, throws on a mask that will alter his face. Nobody knows his real name, but now he just uses one he saw on a grave."
For me the most valid theory is that Clancy was someone, someone that got recognition for they exploits and letters, he was the most likely to escape from DEMA so he got known by both citizens and bishops, the bishops captured him and he most likely died. But he still got so much progress with his letters and whatnot, so people that tries to escape uses the name of Clancy so when the Banditos and the Torchbearer get the information that Clancy is out there they will reach a fake Clancy. That will explain for example the Jumpsuit bit in which Clancy saw Tyler trying to escape, it was probably another Clancy, another person that was using their name.
After that maybe he got captured or who knows, Tyler probably got knowledge about the letters and now he is the one using their name so the Torchbearer will go to him and he can escape. Then when he got the power of seizing he decides instead of finally being free, turning back to DEMA to free everyone once and for all, taking possession of the red color instead of running away of it and destroying the city from the inside.
I’ve had a theory that Clancy isn’t a singular person (as stated in the video) for a while, and seeing someone else speak about it and going deeper into the information is so helpful. It’s gives so much more understanding to the theory and actually backs it up, thank you ❤️
Really great video! Your dedication is amazing and well appreciated! Keep up the awesome work!!
this changed my perspective, for a while i was stuck in my opinion that tyler was always clancy, and that evidence explained away discrepancies. but especially the analysis of redecorate makes sense to me. i had wondered why there would be so many different perspectives, it had to be intentional, but for it to talk about previous “clancys” that all committed to vialism fully,,, it is deep and impactful. it definitely shifted how i think of clancy, thank you
It's no problem! I was a former believer of Tyler definitely being Clancy to be honest, but Sai really changed my thoughts
I needed this video, thank you. Just read the clancy letters and was so confused about the jumpsuit mv and other things.
I think maybe the original Clancy who wrote the letters was one who tried to escape but never succeeded, eventually dying within Dema. Maybe Clancy is the tragic story that has become a rallying cry for the Banditos, and maybe Tyler is writing new letters under his name to continue his legacy.
This might also explain the more religious imagery. Tyler wearing a stole that says clancy’s name could be a form of almost religious veneration for the original Clancy.
One thing i keep thinking of as well.... the Christmas Saves the Year photo of Tyler as a kid with the gift behind him.... The name on the gift is Clancy. However, on Next Semester he says "i was born right here just now originated right in front of your eyes". That contradiction has me absolutely baffled lol. Theories are so much fun for me but sometimes putting them together makes my head hurt lol
Tyler seemingly refers to himself as Clancy since SAI due to the dmaorg letters from that time aligning with his experience. Speculation is that "born right here right now" is Clancy stepping up as the Bandito leader. His true identity as a leader was born right there and then
@@Good_Day_Dema ahhhhh I like that! Makes so much sense!
Thinking about the lyric from Redecorate: “I don’t want to go like this at least let me clean my room.” I feel like it could be Clancy waiting for the Bishops to come collect him from his cell in Dema when they were forcing him to create entertainment for Dema.
It could also refer to when the people of Trench came to rescue Tyler because they needed him out there again. Just a thought…
this is what i have been thinking on for quite a while, ever since i first started getting into the lore around the sai era. im glad there's some explainable backup to my theory now since i could NEVER explain myself 💃
Firstly, the editing in this video is so good! I really apreciatte the effort you put in your videos!
Secondly, I completely agree with this theory, it makes so much sense! I'd like to add one additional evidency: Nicolas Bourbaki is a pseudonym used by the Bourbaki group in their work, so it makes sense that Clancy would also be a pseudonym. And if there was an original Nicolas Bourbaki (aka Nico), then it's reasonable to believe there was an original Clancy
I mean I also think people are forgetting that scaled and icy is a litteral anagram for "Clancy is dead"
Scaled and icy my quirky lil anagram album
I think that the dead Clancy could be Keons because is the only one we literally see helping Tyler with the seizing and being murdered for it... And after that, the next thing we see is the lore-bomb about Tyler taking the name... but idk, the story about the girl sounds good too xd
Nice vid so far dema. Can't finish rn tho I don't think sry
There's no need to apologise! You're not under any obligation to watch the vid, let alone the whole thing
What if "clancy is dead" was the bishops way of saying
"We know what clancy means and it's done"
This theory can explain the song Legend from Trench. It could be a song Tyler wrote for the original (or classic) Clancy.
It may also be related to the fact that the main villain of the Dema storyline is named after a pseudo name (Nicolas Bourbaki), and that he himself has a pseudo name, Blurryface. There are pseudo-names all over this lore!!!!
Something that has stuck with me and kind of nagged at my brain ever since the "I am Clancy" video came out is when he called Vialism a "highjacked" religion. It implies that it was at one time something more benevolent. After all, whether we like it or not we are all "Vessels" for something. Light or darkness. What if those who it was hijacked from were driven underground and forced to use a pseudonym...like Clancy. This could also flesh out Keons some. He may have been a leftover from the previous era of leadership and why he was considered a more benevolent bishop. Also, could explain who the Banditos are. They were the ones who saw the writing on the wall and got out in the early days of the takeover. Just some of my own theories. I think what we are seeing in this era is about restoration. Not necessarily destruction. Restoration of Dema to a place where it's citizens have free will to make choices based on truth rather than the prison it currently is based on manipulation. It really is a powerful allegory for both our own minds as individuals and for the society we live in. Great video! Thank you for your hard work!
my god your editing has improved so much, the beginning already has me hooked
I'm glad you think so!!
This theory does make sense, and I'd link it to the ending of the 'outside' music video, on the other hand I think 'Redecorate' was about the boy and girl who found Tyler's jacket lying on the ground in 'Nico & the Niners' music video🤔
It seems like Clancy can be seen as a Christ figure, sacrificing himself for the other banditos and Tyler is now taking upon himself the name of Clancy (Christ), like disciples did in scripture to fulfill his purposes.
Also, the bishops killing him and advertising his death is synonymous with the Romans killing Jesus and thinking they had won, until Easter :)
Omg I love your voice!
Thank you!
Fr I've wanted to say this but I thought it'd come out weird.
They even released merch in the trench era with 'failed perimeter escape' on the back.
this feels like a movie that is so interesting
Maybe I should start a career in making movies smh
@@Good_Day_Dema agreed
Wow! Really well done! I love the theories. Only thing I would add is the line from redecorate, "he might have made it if he lived on a different street" I think this is referring to the video goner that was filmed on Clancy st. Essentially saying if he was a Clancy or lived on that street he could have escaped dema. Let me know what you guys think 😁
Dema omg this makes alottt of sense it's actually something I had a similar dream about not long ago your amazinggg we love youu❤
I come a decade-long outside observer of the lore.
Twenty One Pilots is Christian propaganda. Because overt Christian messaging is not usually seen in pop culture, the duo is attempting to evangelize with Christian symbolism.
Vialism=Zoroastrianism (a major belief system predating Christianity). Tyler says that 'ending your life and impacting as many people as you can with that act' is the main idea of this religion. And the audience is supposed to figure out why this religion is bad. Obviously, he is covertly referring to Jesus, who would embody the antithesis of this idea. The entire lore is a means of evangelizing secular people who get invested in it.
And Tyler has likely been in great distress over the situation he's found himself in being an evangelist/celebrity. In Goner, he wants to be "known by you." That's it. Blurryface is the performer. The person the people see as a public figure. He wants that. But he wants to be known by God, as Tyler. In trying to have it both ways, it's obvious that he's found himself in the trenches with heathens.
He is now overcompensating for all the blasphemy by embodying the Clancy figure he's built up.
"If you can’t see, I am Clancy."
Yet he's clearly narrorating just as Tyler. He's saying HE is Clancy.
And who is Clancy?
Blurryface.
In Goner, he says:
"Blurry's the one I'm not
I need your help to take him out"
Ive always interpreted the entire album as being directed at two subjects: YOU, the listener, and God. He speaks as Blurryface, hoping you'll hear his cries to God instead of his plea for attention. You heard his plea for attention. The songs he wrote were never heard. Clancy is the extension of what he feels he's become: an idol. And what is this character?
A heroic figure who returns from the dead to save the people of a world in which he also created.
And I'll just leave it at that.
I love this. I posted a theory on Reddit after Overcompensate came out stating that Clancy is not Tyler and that Clancy is dead. To expand on that to say Clancy was an attempted escapee and now used as a pseudonym fits perfectly.
Very convincing ngl
you have a really concise yet visually appealing editing style!
Aaaa I'm glad you like it! Editing is really exhausting for me so I'm glad to know it's worth it
Took me a while to get around to this video, but it was worth it. Very good quality (upload malfunctions aside).
TH-cam really wanted to give me hell with this one because first it copyrighted it for using Lollapalooza content and then cut some of it off 💀
@@Good_Day_Dema They don't want the people to know the truth
2:34 that image is so funnyyy
2 years ?! Omg, great job❤ love that
My mind is blown, this is a very interesting theory and it does make a lot of sense! Thanks for the video i really enjoyed it!
If theres any dema video that the pilots would comment on, i think its this one. This goes so deep its really amazing! If this is true, it will literally change EVERYTHING. Thanks dema! This is insane!
I can't wait until Tyler ends the album with "I am Clancy and so are you."
came here when i started the simone weil is clancy video and i have some thoughts. Take this with a grain of salt because im not super deep into the lore and only know surface level stuff.
I think Tyler might be the original Clancy, and others took that name as described in the video. I like to try and keep in mind that this is all a metaphor for mental health, and Tyler being the first Clancy, and others following him in his journey to escape Dema (depression/ negative mental space) is a representation of the band. The clique are the other Clancy's. We saw Tyler making it out, or trying to make it out and it inspired us and saved us in our own fight with our own bishops.
I think Clancy is a moniker for Tyler as well, in the Trench lore probably for the same reasons as you stated (to try and hide his true identity) or trying to be a figure that motivates people to leave dema (as we see in overcompensate) but in metaphor it could be the band. Tyler and Josh's names arent Twenty One Pilots, but they take on that moniker to inspire us and become apart of a group. As they say in every show They are Twenty one pilots and so are we. They are Clancy and so are we.
another amazing made dema video!!!!!
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING and more. Great video ❤
You are COOKING! Fenomenal video, and one that I truly believe that has the answers to so many questions about the world of Trench.
What can I say? I am a chef
The unus annua song in the back round got me fucked up good video doe dema !
If I have to suffer, still in mourning three years later, then so does everyone else /j
@@Good_Day_DemaI'm mourning too literally cried when it ended
alight so I have a story when u was in I think 8th or 9th grade is when trench came out and before hand I was paying attention to everything about dmaorg and Clancy and I became so interested on who this character was then was trench finally came out there was no mention of Clancy and I was disappointed so I decided hey what if I made my own story about Clancy so I came up with the story of Clancy it was a passion project of mine that I did all throughout high school I never finished it tho I got like 70 to 80 “chapters” in and like a 100 pages and it was really not great and cringe but ever sense then Clancy has always felt apart of me and when people were saying Tyler was Clancy I was a little bummed because I always thought of Clancy as there own person and to see it was just Tyler the entire time just made me story fell more and more like a fan fiction which is what I tried avoid doing but now I am certain that there was an original Clancy don’t know anything about him other than he’s the original escapee the one who started it all but it makes me happy that my dumb little story that I started as a kid was still somewhat true
Great video This really deserves more attention
Thanks
Clancy is the Dread Pirate Roberts!
All jokes aside, wow, just wow. What a great video and deep dive into a theory, one which I am completely convinced you are correct. Great job.
u simply cannot miss with these explainer videos!!
Is that 'Birthday Suit' sample playing by the end of the video? Love this song and love your content ❤️😊
Yep! Big Cosmo Sheldrake fan
If clancy is multiple people who could explain why the bishops said "Clany is dead" back in SAI as if they were trying to say "we can kill one, if you we could do it again" but i dont think that clancy died as we know Tyler/Clancy can posses a body and stay there for as long as he needs but as long as hes in that other persons body anything could happen to his real body thats why i think in overcompensate it wasnt actully him singing as clancy, but the dead clancy taking control of tyler's vacent body to say "i may be physically dead but im still here" so when tyler leaves dead clancy is in controll but when tyler is there dead clancy is just a thought this could also make sense as tyler has a "weak mind" and be easly swayed to do something or be controlled by someone as we saw in jumpsuit until others has do come and physically intervaine
Clancy is a collective pseudonym the same way Nicolas Bourbaki is a collective pseudonym
Really great video, thanks!
I've been thinking that Clancy is supposed to represent the clique, and if we are all Clancy that all but confirms it
It does make me wonder why Tyler also calls himself Clancy because he's not really part of the clique... but in Johnny Boy he does say "I will carry all your names"
12:30 i hear that Cosmo Sheldrake lol
Also, very convincing theory. I need to rethink this as well
Cosmo Sheldrake my beloved
I really like your theory. I totally follow this thought process. A thought occurred to me while listening, and I need to preface that I once was a religious human but don't consider myself to be anymore... however, my thought was (if Tyler is still a religious person which he seemed to be) what if "Clancy" is like... Jesus/spirituality? And the propaganda(SAI) is religious institutions? Every time I've heard Never Take It I think of the religion I grew up in and the MEN who were old and had fake teeth that told everyone what to do and how to do it. Your comment, there was an original Clancy and that the others are taking on his name made me think of how people feel about Jesus or any other type or religious idol. A lot of people have also mentioned that in Next Semester the guy who says to "get out of the road" could be like "god"? I don't know where I'm going with this, but, I came here really to say I like your theory & thought process :)
Editing upgrade and a voice reveal nice.
Top tier production, Dema ❤ I'm on the side saying that Tyler is not Clancy. I think what we see in dema storyline is about a character, a protagonist. In can be what you say in this video - Clancy as a name that can be taken by the one who wants to escape. Personally, I don't think the story is about Mr. Joseph himself in the first place. Of course, he can identify with Clancy, just like anyone of us, I mean identifying with the one who fights with bishops, with their own insecurities. Then, yes - Tyler is Clancy. I am Clancy. You are Clancy as well. But in the dema storyline meaning, Clancy is a character, being the main hero of the story. Tyler is an actor who plays this character. Just like Josh is an actor who plays Torchbearer. Considering that Tyler is a Christian, Clancy name can be something similar (of course not exact) to Jesus' name - a name that God took when he decided to come to Earth as human being (considering that God and Jesus are the same thing - Holy Trinity). Anyway, love the video and the effort you always put in. Thank you ❤❤❤
It's a very V for Vendetta situation, where one individual inspires the populace and then they all become 'V', taking on that legacy
I can tell you what Clancy is about. finding your own inner child back, return to self (your original unviolated blueprint) restore your mental health by looking from a 'new' perspective, from back in the days before mommy sang us 'to sleep' (their perspectives, parents) they tried but we kids are born here with a great purpose and we are always listening to others opinions and forget about why we came to earth as souls. the bishops managed to have us in their control, fear of god but we all are gods, together we form god along with nature.
This is actually a crazy theory, but thank you, you just gave me an excuse to read the dma org letters again for the next five hours 😂
im only halfway through the video, so apologies if this as already addressed, but i think somewhere i saw that nico is sometimes a collective name for the bishops, as well as being one of the bishops, just like how blurryface is not just one bishop, but all of them, so maybe nico is a pseudonym much like clancy
I've never heard that before, would you mind providing me with the source for it? I don't doubt you! I just might need it for future reference!
@@Good_Day_Dema unfortunately i have no clue where i heard it, i think i made it up lol. im pretty sure i got it from the blurryface album cover, and how under the case thing for the cd, it makes a face, and then somehow i linked that to the bishops as a collective are known as blurryface. then in the I Am Clancy video, tyler/clancy says something like "Nico, or blurryface, he calls himself" and then i must have linked them. kinda unrelated but i thought id throw in a little theory on how nico might be a form of god, known as the Father (physical embodiment of nico as a bishop), the son (Controlling Clancy) and the Holy Spirit (the 9 bishops)
anyway tldr: Blurryface album cover shows all the bishops as a face, nico calls himself blurryface
(sorry if none of this made sense, i my brain basically spat this all out onto the screen)
Imagine if Josh is Clancy 😭
josh is canonically the torchbearer
Maybe Clancy is the friends we've made along the way.
All of us being Clancy makes sense give the end of the, ‘Overcompensate,’ music video is Tyler doing the, ‘Death Drop,’ with his Clancy mask on, but when they pull that off?
It’s not Tyler anymore. It’s a girl who we’ve not seen before in earlier parts of story before now.
hi! are you maybe planning to make a video abt Next Semester? i was looking forward to it since the drop of the song. i found your account pretty recently and i really appreciate your content - fantastic approach
Yep! I've started writing the script today for it and I'm planning to print out the lyrics for language analysis also today. I just wanted to get this vid out the way because I've been working on it basically for two years lmao.
But hopefully I should have it out within two weeks max. I think next semester shouldn't be as long of a video considering it's not as cryptic as overcompensate
@@Good_Day_Dema wonderful!! thanks for the answer!
so in reailty .... WE are clancy
I love your videos. I am special needs. I love TOP. Team Tyler here. A Ned fan. Your videos. Are so easy to understand and follow a long with. Ty for creating and. Keep creating. ❤❤
I'm glad you find my videos easy to watch! It's always been an aim of mine to have my videos accessible to all. Thank you for watching and thank you for taking the time to comment
May the other Clancys been taken as vessels by the bishops?
Me looking at this title and be like "I KNEW --wait....huh"
LMAO
I have a theory the kid with the imaginery brother in "my blood" might be the original clancy
"I created this world to feel some control"
I think the quote of "Clancy is dead" is used to say that the social movement of clancy is dead and no one else will escape
I think youre spot on, well done.
“He goes by Nico, he told me I’m a copy” that’s my proof for this theory 😎
love that video. its also crazy that we'll have all the answers to maybe everything soon, after theorizing for nine years lol.
so moral of the story: we are clancy and so are you? in all seriousness though, i love the idea that all of us are clancy's and banditos
We definitely should hear your voice more often
And when at the end of the concerts this era Tyler says 'I am clancy and so are you' what then.
4:04 will wood referenceee lol
CLANCY IS THE DRAGON TRAINER
HE TEACHES TYLER AND TRAINS THE DRAGONS TO RIDE