You can try L2reborn. I recently started with my friends there and it's been quite the fun. It's a no p2w classic server with no allowance of bots, autofarm or dualbox. The server is well populated by the time being. Hope it will be staying like that. Nice video, keep up the good work. ☺️
Though I appreciate your suggestion I’ve moved on from Linage 2. I have gotten everything out of the game that I wanted and there is no more for me to experience. I found a new home in Eorzea. I hope you’ll join me in Final Fantasy 14. It’s such a better gaming experience in every aspect. Check it out.
@@Clobberstomped I've played ff14 as well. It's really good. But I believe that nothing rly beats the "vanilla" experience of l2. Maybe it's just nostalgia talking. The thing is I'm really sick of all these hand helding / questing MMOs (mainly the newer ones) in which the whole point is to rush into the high levels to be able to enjoy the game with party etc. L2 is different from that perspective. I mean u enjoy every aspect of leveling/grinding no matter if you are lvl 20, lvl 45, or lvl 65. There's always something different you can do to farm. There is always that one party that wants your spot and you ll have to battle them, etc.
Oh that isn’t the point of FF14 at all my friend. There is so much to it. It’s all good. To each their own I guess. I found it to be rather amazing. Tough to put down now. I don’t have any sense of pressure to level or quest. It’s chill. It’s what I needed.
Don’t. It’s a waste of your time my man. Come play Final Fantasy 14 with me and my CP who all moved there. It has everything to offer you’d want from a MMO.
@@Clobberstomped actually I’ve played FFXIV since 1.0 but it was time for me to move on. Been playing BDO for a year now, I’m really enjoying it, I just felt like playing a MMO with a Holy Trinity that makes you group up with people. I like grindy games so thats why I considered L2.
Go through the same problem. I invested a lot of money and when I realized it, I had spent thousands of dollars. It hurt me a lot to leave the game, as it makes me very nostalgic. But it ended years ago. Nsoft screwed it up.
Are there still elemental stones that can be used to boosts the elements of weapons and armor? If not how they replaced the elemental resistances and attack power in newer updates?
Great video Clobber, its interesting to hear the science behind it - I had never heard of this "Diderot Effect" before. I also definitely agree about the folks that have been playing for almost two decades now that are just too invested to leave. I unfortunately don't have that excuse to use, and instead fall into the bunch being suckered by this diderot effect :) Also - FANTASTIC FUCKING INTRO :D loved it
You’re all good. I’m no different than you man. I fell victim many times before. I see the light now but I’m hoping I can at least change some peoples minds before they spend too much money or start the game and get sucked into the vortex. This is me with my hand out trying to pull as many out of that vortex as possible. ~shoots hand out……. GRAB IT!
I have made videos about FF my man. Check out my playlists and channel. Hehe. But yes I’ll be making more FF videos as I come back into content creation. Few more things to leave the Lineage 2 community with and then they will never hear from me again in terms of that game.
Hey Clobber! Great video! I totally agree with you, i know about the effect but that's just other part of the casino of L2. If you pay 1 k euro and u get what you want is something. If u pay 1 k euro for 0,0001% chance that's madness. I personally invested a lot also, it is what it is, for me since as you told as a player since c2 that game means more than any other. And to be honest i've tried quite a few. It is a lovely game as i play on CP with friends etc. Playing solo and throwing your money without doing any is craziness. Take care !
Oh indeed. I didn’t even mention the gambling part in the events. That keeps the spenders addicted for sure. I’ll mention that in up coming videos. Thanks for commenting.
I will be but it won’t be L2. I have a few to upload about my disdain for the game and to lure as many of you away into FFXIV as I can as I leave properly. Hehe
I appreciate the offer and idea. I however will not be coming back to L2. I’m back enough to try to pull as many people out of the game as I can and to give everyone the proper send off and farewell you all deserve with sticking with my through thick and thin for so long.
Haha didn’t care to put it on. I had one and moved it to another character but forgot. I’m simply putting the least amount of effort to produce these last few videos and then I’m moving on for good. I owe it to the fans some explanations.
This is the only game that I return once a year I know I am addicted, but so often in a regular day I would think of farming and PT. No other game hooked me so hard
I think your video was all i was looking for in terms of motivation of staying away of this soul-less loophole. I went in few weeks ago and everything started to look really strange instantly, because as a new player I cannot touch any kind of item. A mid-tier item is in between 100 and 200 billions adena. BE AWARE, BILLIONS! So, a new player cannot even farm in PI due to weak stats... so you will never make 1 BILLION adena... And now, I think I am just losing my time with this game so now I am moving away. Thanks a lot. :)
@@Clobberstomped you are right, there's a constant empty void... not to mention that the player activity is not that great neither... i mean, 99% of the "players" are just boxes of a small percentage of active players which are just getting 105 as mentees so they can earn free mentee coins... is just sad, man.
I quit core a while ago. I think I posted a video on it. I’m not back. I’m posting some videos about how bad the game is and saying my farewells properly.
i just play this game because its bring me to memory to c4, but when i see another char more strong then me, i would like to pay more and become stronger then they are, this game so dangerous XD
"Stop playing the game" doesn't really work. Vote with your wallet, as in don't spend money on stupid gambling events, it's that simple. That will change things.
I never understand why people spend so much money in this game. If you are not trying to become a Hero I see no other reason to buy alot of top gear for your character.
Unfortunately the only way to actually even play and progress is now with paying. Period. There is really no way to get gear other than participating in promotions. It’s sad really.
I actually am good at it. Flipping on the market is easy. Just takes time. Problem is not being patient. Say what you like but the game is stale and not worth my time any longer. You should come check out Final Fantasy 14.
the funny thing is that our whole economy is build on this. so why should NCsoft change it. As a player you want something new wich is top item then pay for it, you want it right now and you know the chances right? then you know you will have to pay more and more and more All i can say about is start to take is easy and maybe progress on an item a few years or stop.
@@Clobberstomped to be honest i am fine with L2 its just running PVE AFK and progress. To try to compet at a LvL ( equip wise ) when you join an game that is running for 18 years now, pay to win since i am not sure 7 years. And its not like all this cloak stuff is new, its the 5th promo of this. I agree at the point that this is not often enough and NC force the players this way to Pay alot to get them. wich makes the full item price damn high i am not gone like the change of the Legendary scrolls suck hard and will make it even more bad. Players like Timmy Johns could easy play with paying one Ncoin, the gear they have is enough. but he want to much in a game that is pay to win. If he farms 2 years in peace he is strong enough to farm with PVP and never will need pay an ncoin again. NC staff dont care becouse players keep buying ncoins. but they have no real rights to do what they want they always need OK from Korean DevTeam. all i want to say is there is still a reason to play. on letters event i made like 300bil on selling and open Letter gifts. this i take to invest on marked. buyed items that are cheap now and will increase price soon. wich will make a adena amount arround 450-500bil. Allready Oed my cloak to +14 with the adena i farmed ingame changed agument to top one for 60 stones, this all cost me 0 Euro. Anyways you are right with waht you say about the tactics they use the make players pay. But i also have to say if some1n pay for casino its his own fault. Dont start the game if you want to rule the server or compet with the top 10% becouse you will need to pay endless $ my respect to you mate, FF is nothing for me
I agree with your whole well thought out comment. Thanks or watching and engaging. Paying vs time. It’s the game to play right. Want to compete you have to pay. Want to chill and afk farm then sure this game is for you. You are totally right. You can afk farm. It’s almost a necessity the way the game progressed and developed honestly. No other course really. You can also just play the market to make money like you said. It’s all possible. Patience has to be a high thing for people if they go that route and I’m not saying people can’t or don’t. I spent a lot on the game and in the last few months after I left core and came back to Chronos I only spent what I sold from core. Then played the market otherwise. But some how I would always get sucked back into paying. No one’s fault but my own really. I understand all that. For me now there’s little left for me in the game. For others they still like it. Either way is good. People who stay can keep it and enjoy what they do. I’ll be in FF for anyone that needs a change. Again thanks for watching my man.
Sure. I’ve covered multiple ways to make Adena in the game. However I’ll reiterate as I have before for what? For a few billion when it requires 100b+ per item when you have 50+ slots to fill. For mediocre gear only to grind the same 24/7 grind with no end or anything to work for but more afk grind? Where’s the satisfaction in that?
Kinda sad you guys expirienced only the Official Lineage 2, around 2008-10 the private servers where ton of more fun both in term of activity and gameplay, such a golden ages without non sense donation and p2w
Since the game is free , how are they going to make money? So I agree with their business strategy they let you play the game , they add some events and if people like them they will pay.
E spende for 6 months 24 hours by 24hours i dont sleep well o dont love out side i click exit and never get back my life start make sence, if u wanna play l2 for fun just play l2j for 1 hour etc, u dont play that game u make 2 3 hours a day see farming other places and some quest, not fun on pk pvp mode o try aden its deppending only u for play and its even worst u can spend much more on that and your char can fully kill 50 people, o dont have competition on game u have u are mon insanity for spend more,i much more happy rigth now just say ty l2 for see my life back
Well I hope maybe you’ll come check out FFXIV to see what you think. You might be surprised how similar it is to L2 with so much more to offer for end game content that’s actually supremely challenging.
@@Clobberstomped the reality is that without donating, there is no pvp, there is no massive farming (in good areas) there are no daily, bosses, not even CP
You can try L2reborn. I recently started with my friends there and it's been quite the fun. It's a no p2w classic server with no allowance of bots, autofarm or dualbox. The server is well populated by the time being. Hope it will be staying like that. Nice video, keep up the good work. ☺️
Though I appreciate your suggestion I’ve moved on from Linage 2. I have gotten everything out of the game that I wanted and there is no more for me to experience.
I found a new home in Eorzea. I hope you’ll join me in Final Fantasy 14. It’s such a better gaming experience in every aspect. Check it out.
@@Clobberstomped I've played ff14 as well. It's really good. But I believe that nothing rly beats the "vanilla" experience of l2. Maybe it's just nostalgia talking.
The thing is I'm really sick of all these hand helding / questing MMOs (mainly the newer ones) in which the whole point is to rush into the high levels to be able to enjoy the game with party etc.
L2 is different from that perspective. I mean u enjoy every aspect of leveling/grinding no matter if you are lvl 20, lvl 45, or lvl 65. There's always something different you can do to farm. There is always that one party that wants your spot and you ll have to battle them, etc.
Oh that isn’t the point of FF14 at all my friend. There is so much to it. It’s all good. To each their own I guess. I found it to be rather amazing. Tough to put down now. I don’t have any sense of pressure to level or quest. It’s chill. It’s what I needed.
I really wanted to try Lineage 2, but after watching your video a and Timmy Johns, I decided to totally pass on it.
Don’t. It’s a waste of your time my man. Come play Final Fantasy 14 with me and my CP who all moved there. It has everything to offer you’d want from a MMO.
@@Clobberstomped actually I’ve played FFXIV since 1.0 but it was time for me to move on. Been playing BDO for a year now, I’m really enjoying it, I just felt like playing a MMO with a Holy Trinity that makes you group up with people. I like grindy games so thats why I considered L2.
Awesome. Hope you find your home.
Go through the same problem. I invested a lot of money and when I realized it, I had spent thousands of dollars. It hurt me a lot to leave the game, as it makes me very nostalgic. But it ended years ago. Nsoft screwed it up.
Indeed. People realize before it’s too late unfortunately. Hopefully these few videos can shed light and keep people from wasting.
Are there still elemental stones that can be used to boosts the elements of weapons and armor? If not how they replaced the elemental resistances and attack power in newer updates?
Yes those are all there. Attack attributes. Yep.
Great video Clobber, its interesting to hear the science behind it - I had never heard of this "Diderot Effect" before. I also definitely agree about the folks that have been playing for almost two decades now that are just too invested to leave. I unfortunately don't have that excuse to use, and instead fall into the bunch being suckered by this diderot effect :)
Also - FANTASTIC FUCKING INTRO :D loved it
You’re all good. I’m no different than you man. I fell victim many times before. I see the light now but I’m hoping I can at least change some peoples minds before they spend too much money or start the game and get sucked into the vortex. This is me with my hand out trying to pull as many out of that vortex as possible. ~shoots hand out……. GRAB IT!
very good video. spent 1k dollar on retail server EU essence didnt get anything from box = casino
Sorry to hear but yeah I have more videos coming where I tell all about money spent.
can u make video about final fantasy, there to start never play it but would like to try. Just dont know were and witch part
I have made videos about FF my man. Check out my playlists and channel. Hehe. But yes I’ll be making more FF videos as I come back into content creation. Few more things to leave the Lineage 2 community with and then they will never hear from me again in terms of that game.
Hey Clobber! Great video! I totally agree with you, i know about the effect but that's just other part of the casino of L2. If you pay 1 k euro and u get what you want is something. If u pay 1 k euro for 0,0001% chance that's madness. I personally invested a lot also, it is what it is, for me since as you told as a player since c2 that game means more than any other. And to be honest i've tried quite a few. It is a lovely game as i play on CP with friends etc. Playing solo and throwing your money without doing any is craziness. Take care !
Oh indeed. I didn’t even mention the gambling part in the events. That keeps the spenders addicted for sure. I’ll mention that in up coming videos. Thanks for commenting.
Hey Clobb, Great to see you again ! I hope youll upload more again :-)
I will be but it won’t be L2. I have a few to upload about my disdain for the game and to lure as many of you away into FFXIV as I can as I leave properly. Hehe
@@Clobberstomped Looking forward to it !
Me too!
Hello La2Dream Grand Opening on May 28th, come have fun with the greatest pvp mass interlude classic :)
I appreciate the offer and idea. I however will not be coming back to L2. I’m back enough to try to pull as many people out of the game as I can and to give everyone the proper send off and farewell you all deserve with sticking with my through thick and thin for so long.
hello, why no brooch?
Haha didn’t care to put it on. I had one and moved it to another character but forgot. I’m simply putting the least amount of effort to produce these last few videos and then I’m moving on for good. I owe it to the fans some explanations.
This is the only game that I return once a year
I know I am addicted, but so often in a regular day
I would think of farming and PT.
No other game hooked me so hard
Yeah it is super addicting that’s for sure. It’s why people can leave and see there’s better options.
Yo clobberstomp still playing it lol. What iss class are you. Dual class
I was a Spectral Dancer. I won’t be playing. I’m only back enough to give you all, my long term fans the send off you deserve while moving into FFXIV.
@@Clobberstomped hi men! Link for download?
Nah. Best to move onto something else.
I think your video was all i was looking for in terms of motivation of staying away of this soul-less loophole. I went in few weeks ago and everything started to look really strange instantly, because as a new player I cannot touch any kind of item. A mid-tier item is in between 100 and 200 billions adena. BE AWARE, BILLIONS! So, a new player cannot even farm in PI due to weak stats... so you will never make 1 BILLION adena... And now, I think I am just losing my time with this game so now I am moving away. Thanks a lot. :)
Yep and not to mention you’re playing for nothing. Literally no end game. Nothing to do but grind more.
@@Clobberstomped you are right, there's a constant empty void... not to mention that the player activity is not that great neither... i mean, 99% of the "players" are just boxes of a small percentage of active players which are just getting 105 as mentees so they can earn free mentee coins... is just sad, man.
Yeah this is why I moved onto greener pastures. My gaming experience is greatly improved. I’m much happier.
What happend with discord server?
Link in the description. I’ll add the new link to my main page soon.
Hey boy why not at core server?
I quit core a while ago. I think I posted a video on it. I’m not back. I’m posting some videos about how bad the game is and saying my farewells properly.
i just play this game because its bring me to memory to c4, but when i see another char more strong then me, i would like to pay more and become stronger then they are, this game so dangerous XD
It is. The Diderot effect. It’s common in all aspects of life. Not just games.
"Stop playing the game" doesn't really work. Vote with your wallet, as in don't spend money on stupid gambling events, it's that simple. That will change things.
Though I agree but the community as a whole won’t do that. It would be nice if they did however.
@@Clobberstomped sadly yes. Things will never change.
They won’t.
I never understand why people spend so much money in this game. If you are not trying to become a Hero I see no other reason to buy alot of top gear for your character.
Unfortunately the only way to actually even play and progress is now with paying. Period. There is really no way to get gear other than participating in promotions. It’s sad really.
Ohh there are other ways clob! You re just not good at it.. 🙂
I actually am good at it. Flipping on the market is easy. Just takes time. Problem is not being patient. Say what you like but the game is stale and not worth my time any longer. You should come check out Final Fantasy 14.
Latest News: Gearing up Diablo Immortal character costs $110k.
NCSoft: *monkey looking away meme*
Constant Rick Roll.
True.
Facts! Hehe
the funny thing is that our whole economy is build on this. so why should NCsoft change it.
As a player you want something new wich is top item then pay for it, you want it right now and you know the chances right? then you know you will have to pay more and more and more
All i can say about is start to take is easy and maybe progress on an item a few years or stop.
Hahaha an items every feee years. Hehehe that’s hilarious. Man I have moved on from this nonsense. Come join me in FFXIV. It’s way better.
@@Clobberstomped to be honest i am fine with L2 its just running PVE AFK and progress. To try to compet at a LvL ( equip wise ) when you join an game that is running for 18 years now, pay to win since i am not sure 7 years. And its not like all this cloak stuff is new, its the 5th promo of this. I agree at the point that this is not often enough and NC force the players this way to Pay alot to get them. wich makes the full item price damn high i am not gone like the change of the Legendary scrolls suck hard and will make it even more bad.
Players like Timmy Johns could easy play with paying one Ncoin, the gear they have is enough. but he want to much in a game that is pay to win.
If he farms 2 years in peace he is strong enough to farm with PVP and never will need pay an ncoin again.
NC staff dont care becouse players keep buying ncoins. but they have no real rights to do what they want they always need OK from Korean DevTeam.
all i want to say is there is still a reason to play. on letters event i made like 300bil on selling and open Letter gifts. this i take to invest on marked. buyed items that are cheap now and will increase price soon. wich will make a adena amount arround 450-500bil.
Allready Oed my cloak to +14 with the adena i farmed ingame changed agument to top one for 60 stones, this all cost me 0 Euro.
Anyways you are right with waht you say about the tactics they use the make players pay.
But i also have to say if some1n pay for casino its his own fault.
Dont start the game if you want to rule the server or compet with the top 10% becouse you will need to pay endless $
my respect to you mate, FF is nothing for me
I agree with your whole well thought out comment. Thanks or watching and engaging. Paying vs time. It’s the game to play right. Want to compete you have to pay. Want to chill and afk farm then sure this game is for you. You are totally right. You can afk farm. It’s almost a necessity the way the game progressed and developed honestly. No other course really. You can also just play the market to make money like you said. It’s all possible. Patience has to be a high thing for people if they go that route and I’m not saying people can’t or don’t.
I spent a lot on the game and in the last few months after I left core and came back to Chronos I only spent what I sold from core. Then played the market otherwise. But some how I would always get sucked back into paying. No one’s fault but my own really. I understand all that. For me now there’s little left for me in the game. For others they still like it. Either way is good. People who stay can keep it and enjoy what they do. I’ll be in FF for anyone that needs a change. Again thanks for watching my man.
Join US on h5 scryde. Tons of ppl and the nostalgia
Thanks for offer but I believe my Lineage 2 days have come to an end. I moved onto FF14 and it’s such a better experience honestly.
there are so many ways to make adena, oly chars, trading, farming, get into good clan, more trading
Sure. I’ve covered multiple ways to make Adena in the game. However I’ll reiterate as I have before for what? For a few billion when it requires 100b+ per item when you have 50+ slots to fill. For mediocre gear only to grind the same 24/7 grind with no end or anything to work for but more afk grind? Where’s the satisfaction in that?
@@Clobberstomped trading, trading
@@Clobberstomped trading, trading
clan activities with friends, instances,
u pay for power, Clobber, no connection to Diderot :)))
thats what it all about: power
u want to be an immortal god or puny mortal?
make your choice
And what comes from power, the why, it’s the Diderot effect. Sorry to say. Believe it or not. Continue to play or not. All up to you. I have moved on.
Kinda sad you guys expirienced only the Official Lineage 2, around 2008-10 the private servers where ton of more fun both in term of activity and gameplay, such a golden ages without non sense donation and p2w
I haven’t only experiment official my man. I have a whole other set of opinions on private servers.
Since the game is free , how are they going to make money? So I agree with their business strategy they let you play the game , they add some events and if people like them they will pay.
Other games are free but still offer a store with non game breaking items. A perfect example of this is GW2.
Nah because its full pay to win. No reason to play this game
None at all.
I wich some day someone hack pretty bad ncsft but really bad
E spende for 6 months 24 hours by 24hours i dont sleep well o dont love out side i click exit and never get back my life start make sence, if u wanna play l2 for fun just play l2j for 1 hour etc, u dont play that game u make 2 3 hours a day see farming other places and some quest, not fun on pk pvp mode o try aden its deppending only u for play and its even worst u can spend much more on that and your char can fully kill 50 people, o dont have competition on game u have u are mon insanity for spend more,i much more happy rigth now just say ty l2 for see my life back
Thanks for watching.
I cant believe that people are spending money on pay2win games, especially on a dead game as the official L2. Its so sad.
I can’t either.
:D
Have you quit yet or still pushing strong my man?
@@Clobberstomped I will be here for many more years :D pm me if you want somethink
Well I hope maybe you’ll come check out FFXIV to see what you think. You might be surprised how similar it is to L2 with so much more to offer for end game content that’s actually supremely challenging.
P2w that is why
It’s pay to win that’s why people are still paying? Hehehe
@@Clobberstomped
addiction, habit, make up for shortcomings, have money left over, choose one
@@Clobberstomped
the reality is that without donating, there is no pvp, there is no massive farming (in good areas) there are no daily, bosses, not even CP
All correct. Yep. Time to move to something much better that offers all the same things along with so much more.
give your items plz
No