How To Choose "Keyless" Deadbolts | Ask This Old House
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- Ask This Old House host Kevin O'Connor shows general contractor Tom Silva the latest technology for deadbolt locks.
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Product Information:
1: Schlage BE365VCAM716 Camelot Keypad Deadbolt (or similar)
2: Weiser Smartscan Biometric Fingerprint Scanning Deadbolt
3: Kwikset SmartKey (available in many of their locks)
4: Turner 200-PB Keyless Locking Deadbolt
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Guys you are amazing! I’m not a professional just a homeowner who has learned a lot of things for my DIY projects from you. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
*LOCKPICKING LAWYER HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*
Excelent video,thank you !
We put in an electronic dead bolt...it was a great decision and very convenient for house and pet sitters!!!
What are the brand names for those keyless deadbolts you’ve just showed us?
I really like that last deadbolt. Pretty simple. The other ones are great, but that last one is a great starter.
I agree, it’s pretty slick... but it also looks like it’s just taunting you to lock yourself out without a key.
1 million! Congrats you amazing people! Thank you Tom, Roger, Richard and Kevin!
Recently replaced a couple doors with the Yale x August smart lock and we're happy with it. The Yale lock is well constructed and easy to install just like any other dead bolt. The August smart module is easy to install on the hardware side, but not well made on the software side. Some functionality like auto-unlocking via bluetooth/wifi when you're in range doesn't work consistently. But all of the other smart functionality (including working with Google Assistant) is good.
Good info...thanks
I have the first one that they demonstrated with the code. I live in a cold region of Canada and it works perfectly. The rain and the snow doesn't affect the electrical and it works perfectly. The 9v battery will need to be changed roughly every year or so. The down side about this lock is that it's larger than standard deadbolt holes. I had to cut a larger hole in my door. My kids kept loosing the key to the old one and now they each have a code. Never have to worry about being locked out anymore.
Jubei Kibagami
how about raising to not be irresponsible. Then they wouldn't constantly lose their keys. You are basically teaching your kids that it's okay to lose their keys. And then people wonder why kids are so entitled nowadays.
@HONESTO UNO no actually you're the idiot. Jennifer is making a good point. How many keys are they gonna lose? 5? 10? 20? How many chances do you get? Consistently losing your keys is ineptitude. These kids must either be mentally challenged, or their parents never taught them responsibility.
We ended up exchanging this model for the slimmer version th-cam.com/users/postUgkx0jZ_lGlDVJhDnmagEU8gn47cmfPNlLQU because it was too wide for the only door trim area that made sense to mount it on. However, we should have just noted the dimensions prior to purchasing. Otherwise, we love the doorbell. It works perfectly, and the video is very clear, even at night.
I think we know Kevin's ATM PIN now.
The problem with the last Dead Bolt lock is when you forgot to bring the key, and you turned the dial locking you out!
yep
thanks
Last one just waiting to be a problem when you lock your keys inside the house
That, and the pesky 3-year old that locks Mom out of the house when she runs out to check the mailbox. No key needed!
This is why you always hide a spare key outside. You can also lock yourself outside not using the deadbolt too you know...
@@bryan554 I keep one in my detached garage. It has a garage door keypad entry.
@@nakamakai5553 easilock makes a version of that w safety latches one on the outside so you can't get locked out and one inside so Noone can enter at all even w a key when it's engaged.
I love my keyless entry lock!! You would never go back to a traditional lock!! I don't have fuss with a key and the keypad lights up for night time entry into the house. I change the batter every 3 years, whether it needs it or not. The newer ones have a spot to use a 9 volt battery backup to enter the house.
They are all great and dandy until you have a skeevy neighbor who watches you to get your codes and also knows how to knock out your wifi when you leave so most of your security measures won't thwart his entry...but I digress
"the keypad lights up for night time entry into the house"
Your neighbors like it too. They all know you pass code because of it.
@@MAGAMAN No. You can stand in front of the lock to block anyone veiw, even if they were right behind you.
Congrats TOH for 1 million subs !!! Well deserved !!!
Thank YOU!
More videos like this!
Good video..
The great thing about the first one (Schlage be365) is that the deadbolt actuation is done by you. A lot of electronic deadbolts move the latch for you, which drains the battery much faster. You can also lock it from the outside with just one push a button and turn of the lock, no need to punch in a code.
PRETTY COOL
at 0:40, that comment may not be true. The Schlage has the 6 digit master code printed on the inside of the lock. If the tenant has that, it can overwrite any code and add/delete codes. The landlord should remove the master code sticker...
The master code can be changed when you first got the Schlage.
Very beautiful
Yep
Wow!
good video, my friends!
THANKU!!! mrc/nyc
At 2:12, that's totally new to me!
Do these locks work with hight security deadbolts like Medco?
I like the first and last the most
The first keypad lock they showed (made by Schlage) is actually one of the best, the reason being is that there is no motor driven gear that actuates the dead bolt. It only releases the lock so that you can turn the knob manually.
Electronic locks that have a motor driven deadbolt are the absolute worst, they eat through batteries as the motor draws a lot more power every time it actuates, and most doors don't line up just right with the door jam (you have to pull it a bit to get the bolt to lock), the motor driven bolt will get caught and fail to lock. If you look at the displays in stores you will see they have started to make some models with a slightly tapered end deadbolt (end is smaller profile) to try and combat door alignment problems
The last lock is probably the absolute worst idea, imagine the look on your face when you realize that you have just locked the door realizing that your keys are sitting on the table inside.
We've paid a locksmith twice this year already, because the batteries on our keypad deadbolt have died in just a few months. Replacing it with a standard deadbolt soon. Got too complacent with the keypad, not bothering with key, assuming it'd unlock when we get home.
I was going to say the exact same thing. I have had several of these locks. First one is the best.
@@philipvanvaerenbergh5062 yep that's why hiding a spare key somewhere in the yard or garden is always a good idea!
That's Schlage lock BE365
The 1st keypad is actually made by Schlage. Schlage is part of Allegion. Allegion is part of Ingersoll Rand. But you are correct on your main point. They are the best lock shown in this segment.
Anyone know the brand or link to the biometric (fingerprint one)? Thanks in advance
2:34 is me when i cant open the door and stub my toe
Clever
What is the brand/model of that last deadbolt? The one that you can lock from outside without a key by turning the ring on the body of the lock?
It's a Turner 200-PB. I found a few online but it's discontinued at Amazon and I can't find a website for Turner. The episode is old, they might have gone out of business (along with the fingerprint reader one apparently).
Ever since the lock smith showed me his jimmy gun and how a drill can let you open a door, I have gone keyless only. The lock I use has the electronics on the inside and a sensor in the outside unit that lets it sense attacks and tells the home security system. With up to 12 digit codes I don't worry about someone guessing.
What's it called I'd be interested I have an issue w a neighbor I need whatever help I can get...
Are knob locks a thing of the past? My Father likes to lock the knob and the deadbolt, he feels as if it is more secure that way. Heh.
I like the idea of the code/key lock, great on the rentals 👍
What is that last lock called and where to buy or order, any link or name please, i search for it in amazon couldn't find it
Turner
Check out the Kwikset 99050-003, Its a TRUE Keyless deadbolt. No keyhole, no way for someone to pick it I have 3 on my home and highly recommend them
Nice lock for door.
The motorized locks are great for parents of teenagers that want to hear their kids come home late at night - they can be pretty noisy.
Not so good for those that don't want to hear a drill/driver-like sound whenever they lock or unlock the door. Also not so good in that they can eat a lot of batteries. Would be better if they had a rechargeable option.
How does extreme cold and wintry weather effect both the PIN and bio metric dead bolts using batteries?
I have the first one shown, a Schlage PIN lock. It works off a 9v battery. I've had it for 2 years and have not needed to replace it yet. I live in central Wisconsin
Edit: the battery is on the indoor half of the assembly so I stays warm.
We have 1 of the 1s like the 1st one (only it's a lock & doorknob as well in 1 unit) where I work in Montana & have had something just like it before it & have had no issues whatsoever with the cold & batteries. The reason had 2 get new 1 is they take A LOT of abuse where I work & I'm honestly shocked at how well they've both held up! Highly recommend the 1st 1 that was in the full door!
I love the unintended nod to Kirkland batteries! Isn't everyone a member?
No cellphone nfc ones?
who makes the fingerprint one, and do they still make it?
I have a front door with glass panels and a lever operated latch for the deadbolt inside. If someone broke the glass they could turn dead bolt and come inside. How to prevent this from happening.If I have a key on the inside and a fire happens I might not find the key in time.
I think you'd need to have that security film put on the glass so it can't be broken.
😉Alexa, unlock my neighbors front door! 😁
If that's not possible now, it sure will be!😂😂🤣🤣
Home automation systems block the ability to unlock via voice command for this very reason, they only allow the lock command. Some will provide the ability to enable the unlock via voice but it's not advised.
wish you put links to those locks....
I have the first one. Absolutely love it! My gf parents have the same one but with Bluetooth. Idk how I feel about the Bluetooth.
Lange pls j
The community where i live notified us about changing everything to keyless. But they didn't say what type of system. My concern is the battery. I don't want to come home and unable to open the door.I'm gonna ask them. If i don't have a key option it's a no go. I live by myself otherwise I wouldn't mind.
Witch lock set is better home Depot or Walmart
It would be more helpful if you actually said what the brand and model of each lock was so we could find it if we wanted to buy it.
RFID cards and electric strikes/mag locks are the real way to go, just like any commercial or industrial door access system
do they have ones that work with phone like u wouldn't need a key just walk up to the lock door with a your phone an it unlocks
I wish they would have talked a bit about the reliability & how much punishment they can take. If anyone is wondering, the 1st lock brand in this video (the one in the full door idk how 2 spell it Slege?) Is the 1 I'd suggest for a door with a code! I work at a place where it get the heck beat out of it & they tend 2 last a long time, even in that environment! I've also had some1 I know have another brand of keypad entry & they had nothing but trouble with it & they don't give anywhere NEAR the abuse the 1 where I work does!!
I have that first lock on my home doors. It is a Schlage lock. I had them installed in January 2010 and they still work perfectly. I just make sure I always keep a fresh battery for each one and change it about twice a year.
How can you get on this old house?
Here are my inputs to those deadbolt locks:
0:20 (1st lock) is great. You dont need any keys to get in, get out. caveat, after lotsa use, the buttons will get worn out and would be easy to decipher which to push - unless you use all buttons so all buttons get worn evenly.
1:00 (2nd lock) is finger print. But can be fooled. It is great only for rooms but I dont recommend it for your main door.
2:00 (3rd lock) .... interesting!!!! I wonder if that can be picked... I got no experience with this.
3:15 (last lock) is great for locking the door. But what if you went out of the house without the key, and turned the dial to lock? You are locked out of the house.
NONETHELESS, all above are much better than dumb locks.
I believe Schlage warantees the touchkeys from the letters fading from use.
let's work 💪💪💪
What happens if it's rainy and your finger is wet ? Will it still read your fingerprints ? I think thenlast one is the best.....
HELP which smart lock has the easiest access to change out their batteries?
I hope that you don't get your finger cut off, working on this old house🤣😂
These residential locks can be picked specially the electronic, very easy. If u want real security use comercial locks.
Ultrarmx well any lock can be picked. Locks prevent worries, not thefts.
I really recommend keyless locks
what about deadbolts that work with wifi / smartphone?
what about bluetooth on your mobile phone to lock and unlock your door as in a video i watch ages ago on TOH
Any of these child proof from the inside? My 2 year old learned how to unlock the door and is opening it for Stangers now.
Question, is there a remote deadbolt lock that is not visible from the outside, but visible on the inside of your home.
Lol learning deadbolt
That first lock is exactly what I'm looking for with a 9volt what is the name of that lock???
Schlage. It is also the only one that does not have a motor that sucks battery power. When you punch in the correct code, it unlocks, then you have to manually turn the knob. I love it, that's why I have 4 of them, one for every entrance door in my house and garage.
I have the one with the "Learning tool". Its awesome. I set my front and back door to the same key without having to buy it as a set. Highly recommend it. It's by Kwikset.
I never trusted those locks. Seemed too fragile
Could I bring my own learning tool to “teach” your lock about my own key?
Those locks have a high failure rate as the internals are made of plastic! They can also be easily broken with a flat head screw driver and vice grips. It's best to avoid them at all costs.
I really like these deadbolts.
1:48 whats that guy doing with an Iphone 3g in 2018
Nice locks it's to bad you have to spend all afternoon looking for them because you don't even put the model number in the description
The last lock will lock many people out. No one will realize they forgot their keys inside if locking it doesn't require a key.
OMG iPhone 2 on the belt lol
tricky locks
As a locksmith....stay away from Kwikset Smartkey.
Why?
Too many parts. They fail constantly
@@jeffmoss26 MY whole house is done in Smartkey and has been for 8 years with no problems.
@@cloudstrifeification How many burglars do you know who pick a lock to enter a place?
They don't have time to dick around with picking locks, they just kick in the door.
@@pranjal86able - Because the Kwikset SmartKey locks can be opened with a screwdriver and a wrench, in about five seconds.
Hello Kevin & Tom. I would like to know if guys can tell me how can I get power back to one wall switch.Hello There: Yes I have a regular wall switch on my garage when I first but a motion sensor & it STOP working. So I try to reinstall a new motion sensor & still no power at all. When I took the face plate off pull the old switch I saw 3-white wire tries together 1-red it self 2-black wire with 1-white wire all 3-wire tries together. So I hope to get my power back in I'm calling from Houston Tx
Tommy approved.
omg thts brilliant u dont need a key to lock it.
50 fingerprints is only 5 people's hands 👐 lol
The finger print deadbolt has been discontinued by the Mfg. Because it was a total piece of crap.
😂
Can't we just make the fingerprint door running on 4 D batteries so we can go about 5 years instead of AA. With doors being wafer we can put a 4 D battery holder built into the door Tommy Silva may agree
Quickset is easy to defeat
especially by kicking in the door.
my nest yale lock is the best
Is this a really old video? That biometric lock is not available anywhere. It seems to have been sold by Weiser and Kwikset at one time but neither brand are offering it currently for sale. Very little information available. Why don't the people of This Old House put the product information down somewhere in the description on these videos?
@ganymedeIV4- Oh sure I'm such a dummy. Everyone knows that Apple Samsung and all the others have abandoned their biometric access systems because biometric circumvention is as easy as a warm wet finger. Said NO ONE EVER!!!!!
Yes, about 5 years old. This is really ancient tech here as the newer stuff is all wifi connected to your phone with proximity access.
@@oldtwinsna8347- Yet the video was published on December 28th 2018. I find the WiFi / Bluetooth to be undesirable as I don't always have a phone with me.
The last one is clever. But I would never ever use it. I need to lock my door with my key. I repeat, it is imperative that I lock my door with my key. That's the only way I know I have it. I would hate to go outside, lock the door, only to realize I left the key in my house. That's happened to many people with those type of locks.
WOW what a great idea ! Until you lose the handy dandy learn-a-new-key key, then what Tommy ?!?
Weiser has a package of 6 keys that come with the learn-a-new-key tool. It's available from every major home center. For the 6 keys, the 4 chrome keys are four of a kind, and the 2 gold keys are two of a kind.
That last one is pretty sick
Yeah, I like the last one the best.
ALRIHAE you can’t purchase it anymore. Turner lock went out of business. This is an old video.
Easiest one to lock your keys inside the house though, because you don't need them to lock the door after you leave...
@@njdevfan20 Gee, that stinks. I wish they we're still in business. Hopefully other brands have caught on
Always hate finger print scanners. Not out of any paranoia, I used to work in a warehouse that had a time clock with a finger print scanner, if you had a cut on your finger the scanner wouldn't be able to read it.
That kwikset smart key is junk.. they are compromised. a key cut to depths 33333 line up the pins and you can force the cylinder to turn. And since the pins can't be swapped out , they get old and break , then you end up needing a locksmith anyway.
How about you put the product information in the description. Common sense I would think.
Cody373 the company that makes the last one is no longer in business. This is an old video. It was called turner lock
Why is it so hard to find out what the best keyless MECHANICAL keypad lock is that needs no batteries?
The only positive I see with electronic locks is it helps with access management. If you have a short term rental, or like they said, dog sitter, nanny etc.
In my opinion, mechanical locks are still king. I like the schlage b60n as a "starter deadbolt" with 3" screws replaced on the strike plates AND door hinges.also add in a security sleeve that goes into the mortise of the door frame.
We're still in the first generation of electronic door locks. A lot of devices are built like consumer electronics instead of security devices. Yeah you got a fancy lock on your door. That $200+ electronic lock still has a $15 core.
Wow, that learning lock is actually impressive.
what's stopping someone with a learning tool from getting their own key registered and thus gaining entry to your house?
you need the working key to turn it halfway first. then use the learning tool to program new key. so the working key is needed before you can create new key
I wonder if a pipe wrench on that last lock would turn it the other way.........hmmm.........
Take it from a Locksmith, dont use the kwikset smart key locks, a LOT more plastic then there should be. Easily breaks easily!