@@middlespace8412 Yeah I've heard different takes. Some people say that it's harder to know what he's thinking others say that it's easily conveyed through his facial expressions. I suppose it's better to have both so both types can enjoy the show.
Actually nothing happens if you write your own name. However if you write your own name but there's another person with the exact same name and you were thinking about them as you were writing it then that person dies.
I actually really like this. The lack of internal dialogue forces you to pay attention to his expression, especially the eyes. Without hearing his thoughts, you have to imagine what he's thinking, and it ends up being your own internal voice detailing his thoughts. You really have to read his face. It's actually really immersive, if that makes sense.
Totally agree. I've watched this series literally dozens of times in my life and never once noticed just how disappointed he is when he thinks the notebook didn't work. Like, I knew he was a little disappointed, but his internal monologue is already trying to protect his psyche by convincing him that he knew all along the notebook wasn't going to work. When you take that away, though, he looks utterly crestfallen.
@VidyaRavilochan while I agree that he's disappointed, I wouldn't go as far as crestfallen. This was his first use of it, and he didn't expect success from the start. But that's what I love about this video. Rather than just dumping Light's thoughts on us, directly telling us what he thinks, we have to make our own guess. We put our interpretation of the body language and our knowledge of the info we do know for sure together, potentially leading to different conclusions.
It definitely feels scarier and more “real” watching without the internal monologue. A lot more like watching a true crime documentary or CSI style show but animated (even though the method of killing is obviously in the realm of fantasy,) it’s wild how much the internal monologue does to humanize Light for the audience and make us feel like even though we know what he’s doing is wrong, we’re sort of placed on his side by being put into his perspective and into his head. This makes him feel more as he is to the world he occupies… a cold and terrifying unknown.
Unless you are a TH-cam reactor, in which case you apparently have to disregard anything you've ever said regarding legal issues and agree with L 100% the entire time.
@@Canonicallycreative You said that the internal monologues humanize Light and explain his actions. I'm referring to the people who go into Death Note and hate on Light the entire time regardless. Most reactors on TH-cam fall into that group.
I kind of felt like this particular scene, without the internal dialog, was still very humanizing. In the later episodes, absolutely. You as the audience are guided to believe in Light. This scene though, is just about testing the book for the first time. Human nature is to be curious. Who wouldn't try it once, even just as a joke?
@@michaelcarlton1484 You’re not meant to like Light, though. You’re meant to understand him and how he became the monster he is, but he’s a sociopathic serial killer, not a good guy.
I was exspecting this to be more goofy than it actually is :/ I actually kind of like how even without hearing Lights internal dialogue, that his expressions and heavier breathing at some parts convey the thoughts and feelings perfectly Me likey
On of the reason it has so much dialogue is because it’s originally a manga. Doing These long shots of nothing doesn’t work as well in comic form. Nor can you for the audience to linger on a single panel. But in anime form, they can force the watcher to linger on a frame and wait for the whole time building anticipation for the person death. We’re as in manga they can skim and skip the page. No dialogue to read or slow down for. You see this lot in anime that is an adaptation. Like Evangelion or Samurai Champloom. Where they hold the watcher still or convey without internal dialogue.
I'd show my kids this version of the series first if a full version was ever made, it makes Light feel less like the protagonist and more like a force of nature that you just happen to be witnessing.
This makes it way better, it adds an bit of tension to the scene. The anime should've worked more with silences and ambiance rather than reading character's thoughts telling you what's happening.
watching this now that I've forgotten a lot of the details of what happened in Death Note, i really wish there was an alternative version of Death Note that has more of a horror vibe. don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed death note as it is, but I think a version that's leaning more into the horror could be interesting
That's actually really neat. On one hand, the idea that we're following the logic of a teenager who starts playing god in the series as written is interesting, but getting to just watch it unfold lets the viewer experience it as a bystander, but gives less insight into Light's mindset and why he feels the _need_ to do this. I would totally watch a whole series of Death Note with No Monologue, just to see how many scenes like this one end up with a totally different vibe. You definitely get more of a sense that Light is spooked by what he's just done than he is awed.
@@grantwalter2243 Huh? They're talking about a change in direction, which gives a different perspective on the same event, not altering the events of the story themselves
But the thing what makes death note special is the internal monologues. Remember this is a shonen anime. All the fighting and battles are in the charachters head. Without that this would be a whole different anime and also kinda boring since the most hype moments happened in internal monologues
You gotta give credit to the artist for this portrayal, though. The skepticism, curiosity, the ‘just as I thought’ when nothing seemed to happen, the shock of realizing you may have just killed someone. And how normal Light looks at this point. He still looks innocent.
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xm The animation is actually really good for the time it came out. A lot of early 2000s anime was either really ugly or... just like this. Like, yeah, it's not the sparkliest anime ever, but it's a crime series... what does it need to be glossy for? Not everything looked like Sword Fart Online back in the 2000s. We've only just been seeing this new wave anime style in the mid 2010s.
He wouldn't expect a god of death to show up Imagine this line God of death: "that person's fate was sealed when you wrote it down" Then light would have a more intense version of the freak-out when he found out the notebook was real
I don’t have a problem with Internal monologues as long as it doesn’t feel like exposition dumping. That’s why its so good in death note. Its not just that he’s explaining why he did something but more so that he’s actively trying to solve a problem and we get to hear his thought process while doing so. Not like in Naruto when they just say the obvious all the time
I agree. Plus Naruto repeating the same few quotes and flash backs frequently, especially in the anime. Naruto is a masterpiece, but a few little things can be a bit obnoxious sometimes.
Something I found not many animes can do correctly. Either do them right or don’t do them at all. If it’s not necessary then leave it out and keep the audience guessing (and invested) until they find the answers.
@@sixkicksfightertricks949 A few? I have tried several times to start watching that show and by the fourth or fifth episode, I can’t take the anime-moments anymore so I stop. It’s not a masterpiece, it’s professional fan fiction for weebs.
I think there's a video out there where L confronts Light with partial evidence, presented out of order. In the show, Light has to make some 4D chess moves in his head about whether to make the correct assumption based on missing information that L never presented him with, or to purposefully make the wrong assumption. But how can he fake conviction towards a wrong assumption without looking like he's faking. In the show we get a solid 2 or 3 minutes of Light trying to strategize. But without the monologue, they both just stare at each other for 5 minutes. Light says 2 sentences. They stare at each other for another 3 minutes, and then they go right back to a seemingly normal conversation. And the idea of L just going along with it all makes the entire scene even funnier.
@@bennitori4 my favourite headcanon is that the monologues aren't just for audience comprehension, that is actually how they communicate and the rest of the task force learned to live with it.
@@bennitori4I just came from that video, and it was hysterical 😂😂 There’s no blinking or anything, it’s just a single frame up for ten seconds, but not one comment seemed to find it as funny as I did 🙃
the dynamic shots and close ups really help sell the scene, and the directing on light's body language make everything easy to understand. this first episode really was a masterpiece in anime.
This show is a masterpiece of anime indeed but I can't help notice upon watching it for like the 7th time how they didn't take the time to flesh out Light's character more so that we get an idea of how he thinks and how much of a "model" citizen he is. They just let him directly descend into madness. It feels very rushed. I though the manga did a better job here but it's the same.
Light could have been a terrifying villain. Like, we see everything from his pov, but if you observed him from an outsider perspective, he's absolutely chilling. Like, he's so good at acting normal that barely anyone in the series even entertained that he was Kira. If Kira's identity remained secret through the series, Light's reveal at the end would have been insane. Or, imagine him as a Makima-type character, that's even scarier.
That's part of what made Matsuda's breakdown so sad. Everyone (except Matsuda) caught on that Light was Kira. But none of them had any clue how unhinged and fanatical he was. Because even when he was at his most ruthless, he never outwardly expressed that frantic side of himself. Only the audience got to see that side of him. So even the people who figured out it was him were shocked. And then poor Matsuda probably felt like his friend was switched with a lying imposter and he just couldn't take it.
@@bennitori4 I thought the ending was bad. I wanted to see light win ,since he lost I wanted his defeat to atleast make sense but it didn’t😂 He could’ve got out of it easily and won, but I hate that “the villain can never win” Trope and it seems like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn’t know how to kill him off
@@loni1771 read the manga, or at least the second half of it. the anime cuts out a lot of things from the ending half of death note. they completely ruined near's character, and the way they beat kira makes no sense in the anime. it works in the manga, though
@@isaacpoppe990 nah even in the manga it’s stretched how Nears Agent somehow was able to get close to mikami and copy his handwriting perfectly hand by hand in under a day. It’s like near’s character was just handed the dub against Light.
Light's initial reaction to the Death Note feels so realistic without the internal dialogue. Not to say it isn't realistic normally, but watching everything play out on it's own with the long silences from Light as everything is unfolding is so cool to watch. Now, I can't say I relate to what he does afterwards with the Death Note (Although who really knows) but I can see myself reacting to this scenario in the exact way that Light does.
@@happilyevernever4289 exactly. people like death note because of the internal monologuing. the reason why this is funny is because we already know what light is thinking, and the deafening silence in juxtiposition with our expectation is humorous. however, this would not work on a larger scale, otherwise more people would watch season 2 of the anime of death note. but they dont, because its not a good formula.
In any context the first kill honestly is what sold me on the show. The fact he thought it was stupid and fake made it feel grounded, then it turns out it worked and it completely shook his entire world. Sadly it means he doomed his soul for eternity even it was morbid curiosity. That’s the true horror of death note. Who ever uses it no matter what is doomed.
This presentation of the scene is actually pretty interesting, although I don’t know if it would hold up for the entire series. What I will say though is that this feels way more tense and claustrophobic - the relative silence of Light’s room creates a really creepy contrast with the violence that’s unfolding. It almost highlights the vibe of the Death Note more accurately (from the perspective of the average person, but possibly not Light’s) in that it’s a silent and insidious killer. The lack of melodrama here makes the power of the book scarier imo: it does exactly what it says it does on the inside cover and no more or less than that. A totally stone cold killer that will obediently kill anyone the user chooses.
I like how Light only talks out loud to push the idea of using the Death Note out of his mind. It's like he's trying to talk himself out of using it by highlighting how ridiculous it would be to expect it to work. Yet, he's already picked it up and brought it home. Even as he tells himself "lol how stupid" he has already decided to use it. Also, I never realized how sudden the cut to the hostage crisis was until it played without internal monologue. This makes it seem like we skipped several minutes or maybe even a few hours of Light sitting there flipping through channels until he found something to use the Death Note on. Seems like despite shltting on the idea, Light already wanted the Death Note to be real, even before he saw evidence that it was. Maybe Kira was already in there, even before he got the book.
As someone who’s never seen the show, this seemed entirely natural, and I feel like adding internal dialogue to this would’ve felt cluttered and unnecessary. Though I could obviously be wrong, as I haven’t seen ir
I agree, but the problem is that Death Note has a ton of scenes like this, and it would be very hard to know what's going on and what characters' plans and motives are without internal dialogue
I never watched Death Note before (aside from out of context references), but this scene was perfectly coherent. 1) Light reads the book and its rules, note the “must picture target’s face” rule in frame. 2) Light believes it is some sort of prank, but is still superstitious 3) He sees an opportunity on TV. He can test the book on a hostage crisis. If the book is a prank, nothing will happen. If the book is legit, he would have fixed a bad situation. No risk really. 4) he tries it out, thanks to a police mugshot of the suspect on TV 5) due to TV/information delay, nothing happens immediately. He almost writes it off 6) the news reports that the suspect suddenly collapsed with no police intervention 7) Light realizes that the book is legitimate, but is interrupted by his mother If I had to guess the continuation, Light has time to reflect and believes it is a coincidence. So he waits for another similar opportunity to show up again. When it does, he tries again. It works. Premise established.
This feels so much more restrained and a little more realistic. I don't know how else to describe it except this is how Death Note used to feel like to me?? Like when I first watched it? This is just way more chilling to watch
ok, the "looks like the book doesn't work" part at 1:28 was amazingly smooth without the monologue. This video just even further up-ed my appreciation of this show.
In manga form, internal monologue is necessary to fill in the visual gaps that can't be communicated panel by panel. In anime form, when you can-in detail-animate every subtle eye movement and facial expression, it really does become so much more to _show_ and not _tell_ what the characters are thinking.
@@famevx as far as criminals, he tended to only kill guilty ones. Light remarks that Higuchi kills anyone and everyone who appears on the news while the original Kira had a more refined process. Kira also killed Misa's parent's murderer, who was legal on paper, so he did kill an "innocent" there.
Yeah, but he's not said to have physically harmed them, or killed anyone prior to this incident. Holding someone hostage only requires preventing them from leaving the area, and the goal of the police in this situation is generally to offer a non-violent way for the suspect to exit the situation, so that the situation doesn't progress to violence, and the hostages aren't harmed, or harmed further than they have been.
This is honestly so much more appealing. Not having seen the show in years I’m finding my imagination of what he could be thinking is running wild. The silence is really so powerful. Wish more creators would utilise quiet
Despite the fact that the constant internal monologues are one of my favorite things about the show, this is actually a REALLY interesting way to frame this scene.
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xm while the monologues never outright ruined the experience for me, I do think that silence plays just as important a role in a shows storytelling and sound design as dialogue does. silence can show us a lot about a character. i even think removing the music from this scene would have improved it even further. it creates a tension that wasn't there before.
I never considered the fact that since he can literally control the time, manner of death, and actions before death in great detail, he could have simply written "Criminal decides to live an honest and fulfilling life without commiting crimes and immoral actions, before dying in his sleep at the age of 80." Like yeah, it doesn't punish criminals or make people fear him as a God, but it does create his Utopia, or works towards it at least. It also would not entertain Ryuk, so he might just take the book back, but eh.
this is actually so cool, this scene does a lot to show us what he's thinking without telling us, it almost makes the scene better, this shows the power of visual storytelling. I wonder if the entire show can work without Light's thoughts, probably not since he explains a lot of his plans in his head, but it would be interesting to watch without knowing what light will do next (not as a first watch but as a second)
there's so much more tension when there's no internal monologue. it'd be interesting to see an edit of all of death note like that, no one has an internal monologue
i like how you can see the signs of Light's psychopathy even this early, the first victim's death could be justified and most people would think that this was done in "good will" but the fact that he wrote his name so quickly and after realizing that he killed a person he perfectly acted out his usual self to his mom, now that's a huge sign of psychopathy
I think you're just projecting what you already know about the character. I've never seen the series and don't plan to, unless there is a release that removes all of the internal monologue. From my perspective i just perceive him as being in shock. Which would make sense because there is no real way to be certain that he is the cause of that man's death. Anyone in his position would wonder if it could it have been a coincidence. He is a teenager from what I've looked up on the internet. So to me his reaction seems completely normal, and if i did watch the series the reveal that he's a psychopath would be really quite surprising. Instead I'd likely be spoon fed exposition left and right. I wish anime wasn't so exposition heavy, it really holds it back from telling truly amazing stories. Also your assessment is naturally wrong, you can't discern a psychopath from a neurotypical person. If you could just based off of a 3 minute interaction then they wouldn't be a very good psychopath now would they?
This legitimately takes it from feeling like an anime to feeling like one of those prestige drama's. Like it feels more like breaking bad or better call saul.
I’ve never seen Death Note but this is kinda captivating. Im glad the comments are saying that the internal monologue is a good feature of the anime, bc id hate to have this video ruin it for me if i end up watching it. But i do really enjoy this. It’s kinda subtle, even if I know exactly what’s happening.
Ngl if this is what animes were written like I would actually like it somewhat. No shitty internal monologues that only serve to fill run time and cop out on visual storytelling. For me it absolutely ruins pacing and makes me feel like the writers think that I'm too stupid to be able to infer character intentions so they compensate by having characters painstakingly explain every single possible minute detail about topics.
I wonder if ALL THIS would have happened if he had turned off the TV in time? Logically, he would simply throw away the notebook and forget about it. He would have missed that report with the first victim and that's it.
It's somehow more intense this way.
Felt almost like Serial Experiments Lain
agree
Ikr. I think it makes it better
@@middlespace8412 Yeah I've heard different takes. Some people say that it's harder to know what he's thinking others say that it's easily conveyed through his facial expressions. I suppose it's better to have both so both types can enjoy the show.
@@mcbills9096 I can see a good mix suffice
Imagine if he'd written his own name just for laughs
Bro I’d right my own name on purpose and die a stupid or fun death
An official Death Note rule does explain what’ll happen but I forgot I think nothing happens
Actually nothing happens if you write your own name. However if you write your own name but there's another person with the exact same name and you were thinking about them as you were writing it then that person dies.
He might not have become Kira if he did that. Ryuk would pop up, and Light might just freak the hell out and get rid of the notebook.
It does not work if the owner of the death note write theyre own name
I would actually like to watch the entire series like this, it's pretty interesting and it leaves a lot for the imagination and analysis of the viewer
The live action movies (not Netflix) are like that
No it actually makes it really fecking bad. But there is a lot of humour for repeat watchers
@@bl2254 not true. I have no recollection of what light's monologue was in this scene and it watches perfectly fine,
Literally NOBODY would understand the huge plan when Light gave up his memories.
@@bl2254 you have bad taste
I actually really like this. The lack of internal dialogue forces you to pay attention to his expression, especially the eyes. Without hearing his thoughts, you have to imagine what he's thinking, and it ends up being your own internal voice detailing his thoughts. You really have to read his face.
It's actually really immersive, if that makes sense.
Totally agree. I've watched this series literally dozens of times in my life and never once noticed just how disappointed he is when he thinks the notebook didn't work. Like, I knew he was a little disappointed, but his internal monologue is already trying to protect his psyche by convincing him that he knew all along the notebook wasn't going to work. When you take that away, though, he looks utterly crestfallen.
@VidyaRavilochan while I agree that he's disappointed, I wouldn't go as far as crestfallen. This was his first use of it, and he didn't expect success from the start.
But that's what I love about this video. Rather than just dumping Light's thoughts on us, directly telling us what he thinks, we have to make our own guess. We put our interpretation of the body language and our knowledge of the info we do know for sure together, potentially leading to different conclusions.
i have never watched this and i still agree
it wouldn't work for the whole anime as is (multi minute long silent pauses) but I'd still love to see a version of it like this
Chainsaw man is kinda like that, it sometimes has inner monologues but most of the time its show don’t tell, really good stuff!
It definitely feels scarier and more “real” watching without the internal monologue. A lot more like watching a true crime documentary or CSI style show but animated (even though the method of killing is obviously in the realm of fantasy,) it’s wild how much the internal monologue does to humanize Light for the audience and make us feel like even though we know what he’s doing is wrong, we’re sort of placed on his side by being put into his perspective and into his head. This makes him feel more as he is to the world he occupies… a cold and terrifying unknown.
Unless you are a TH-cam reactor, in which case you apparently have to disregard anything you've ever said regarding legal issues and agree with L 100% the entire time.
@@michaelcarlton1484 Sorry did I miss something? I don’t understand what what you said has to do with what I said?
@@Canonicallycreative You said that the internal monologues humanize Light and explain his actions. I'm referring to the people who go into Death Note and hate on Light the entire time regardless. Most reactors on TH-cam fall into that group.
I kind of felt like this particular scene, without the internal dialog, was still very humanizing. In the later episodes, absolutely. You as the audience are guided to believe in Light. This scene though, is just about testing the book for the first time. Human nature is to be curious. Who wouldn't try it once, even just as a joke?
@@michaelcarlton1484 You’re not meant to like Light, though. You’re meant to understand him and how he became the monster he is, but he’s a sociopathic serial killer, not a good guy.
I was exspecting this to be more goofy than it actually is :/
I actually kind of like how even without hearing Lights internal dialogue, that his expressions and heavier breathing at some parts convey the thoughts and feelings perfectly
Me likey
That was surprisingly very intense and even scary
This adds an uncanny amount of realism
ESPECIALLY with the music
Death Note if it was directed by Vince Gillian and Peter Gould
Better call Death Note
Better note death
@@byxyro3439 Better call L
@@Perseagatuna Better Spell L
@@beShadowed Better take the L
I clicked this cuz I figured it'd feel more intense and yeah it does, sheesh
Light: turns off the TV before anything happens, forgets about everything.
Credits roll.
Love that, the inner monologs are typically such a pace breaker, especially in scenes like this, where the expressions speak louder then any speech.
Someone needs to edit the whole show like this, I'd definitely watch it!
On of the reason it has so much dialogue is because it’s originally a manga. Doing These long shots of nothing doesn’t work as well in comic form. Nor can you for the audience to linger on a single panel. But in anime form, they can force the watcher to linger on a frame and wait for the whole time building anticipation for the person death. We’re as in manga they can skim and skip the page. No dialogue to read or slow down for.
You see this lot in anime that is an adaptation. Like Evangelion or Samurai Champloom. Where they hold the watcher still or convey without internal dialogue.
This would be like watching You (Netflix series) without the internal dialogue
I'd show my kids this version of the series first if a full version was ever made, it makes Light feel less like the protagonist and more like a force of nature that you just happen to be witnessing.
I discovered I don't have an internal monologue due to this series.
Psychology is one's my favourite subject. Thanks for the video, you won another subscriber.
bro this is so much better omfg.
i wanna whole show like this.
Wow... Actually... It's better
This makes it way better, it adds an bit of tension to the scene. The anime should've worked more with silences and ambiance rather than reading character's thoughts telling you what's happening.
This guy basically murdered a victim of capitalism.
I was expecting a "sitcom without laugh track" kind of situation... But hey this kinda elevated the show a bit. In this scene at least.
the anime is perfect , you won't even notice the dialogue
hol up, you might have just done something here.
It either makes him smart of stupid, Im not used to him saying nothing💀it's almost he's not thinking at all and just is watching the tv💀
wow what an impact that has
I thought this would be funny but it was honestly scarier without the inner monologue
i want the whole series without internal monologue
this is like the opposite of the scrubs without jd's inner monologue video
What if it was possible to disable and enable the internal dialogue
This works so fucking good
His first murder was that biker
this makes deathnote seem a lot more psychological horror
Ye honestly it gives more of a "oh shit what I've done.."
watching this now that I've forgotten a lot of the details of what happened in Death Note, i really wish there was an alternative version of Death Note that has more of a horror vibe. don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed death note as it is, but I think a version that's leaning more into the horror could be interesting
I like how you can tell what's going through his mind even without the internal dialogue.
i think thats cus you know him
that’s definitely just bc you know him, everything hes doing does not match his inner dialogue at all😭
i think that's because you are kira
@@felixamato No, this early in the series they do match. This was before he started changing, since it was before he ever used the Notebook.
no I can't
That's actually really neat. On one hand, the idea that we're following the logic of a teenager who starts playing god in the series as written is interesting, but getting to just watch it unfold lets the viewer experience it as a bystander, but gives less insight into Light's mindset and why he feels the _need_ to do this.
I would totally watch a whole series of Death Note with No Monologue, just to see how many scenes like this one end up with a totally different vibe. You definitely get more of a sense that Light is spooked by what he's just done than he is awed.
or just didn't have a tv in his room. Or never watched the live news.
@@grantwalter2243 Huh? They're talking about a change in direction, which gives a different perspective on the same event, not altering the events of the story themselves
@@okkoheinio5139 i think i meant that to respond to someone else. I dont remember, but yeah my comment doesn't make any sense.
But the thing what makes death note special is the internal monologues. Remember this is a shonen anime. All the fighting and battles are in the charachters head. Without that this would be a whole different anime and also kinda boring since the most hype moments happened in internal monologues
Devil Survivor overrated as hell tbh
It's actually not difficult to tell what Light's thinking here. However, the internal monologues are necessary for later parts of the story
Not super necessary. Watching everything unfold from an external perspective would be pretty cool
@@haddy106 not when you get to light’s 5 head plans
Some scenes would be maybe cooler like that but yeah a lot of things need his internal monologues
*potato chip*
@@haddy106 Nah bro you know damn well you wouldn't understand his plans most of the time and neither would 90% of people
You gotta give credit to the artist for this portrayal, though. The skepticism, curiosity, the ‘just as I thought’ when nothing seemed to happen, the shock of realizing you may have just killed someone. And how normal Light looks at this point. He still looks innocent.
I've said this before, but while Death Note doesn't have the prettiest animation, it's incredibly effective at delivering the message.
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xmI love its animation the simplicity in the style is the beauty
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xm The animation is actually really good for the time it came out. A lot of early 2000s anime was either really ugly or... just like this. Like, yeah, it's not the sparkliest anime ever, but it's a crime series... what does it need to be glossy for? Not everything looked like Sword Fart Online back in the 2000s. We've only just been seeing this new wave anime style in the mid 2010s.
What if light had turned off the tv a few seconds earlier and then brushed the deathnote off as a prank and threw it away.
That's something I always thought about lol
Then the story wouldn't have happened, and we wouldn't be watching an anime about it. Anthropic Principle.
Then ryuk would have popped up anyway ..
@@dontudare9356 Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. Either way, a few days later, Ryuk shows up and has a chat with him.
He wouldn't expect a god of death to show up
Imagine this line
God of death: "that person's fate was sealed when you wrote it down"
Then light would have a more intense version of the freak-out when he found out the notebook was real
I don’t have a problem with Internal monologues as long as it doesn’t feel like exposition dumping. That’s why its so good in death note. Its not just that he’s explaining why he did something but more so that he’s actively trying to solve a problem and we get to hear his thought process while doing so. Not like in Naruto when they just say the obvious all the time
I agree. Plus Naruto repeating the same few quotes and flash backs frequently, especially in the anime. Naruto is a masterpiece, but a few little things can be a bit obnoxious sometimes.
Something I found not many animes can do correctly.
Either do them right or don’t do them at all. If it’s not necessary then leave it out and keep the audience guessing (and invested) until they find the answers.
@@sixkicksfightertricks949 A few? I have tried several times to start watching that show and by the fourth or fifth episode, I can’t take the anime-moments anymore so I stop. It’s not a masterpiece, it’s professional fan fiction for weebs.
@@orppranator5230 I'm typing about the manga. The manga is a masterpiece. The anime is a mess.
@@sixkicksfightertricks949 Ah, ok.
I imagine watching most of the series without internal monologues would make some of the overly long freeze frames pretty funny
I think there's a video out there where L confronts Light with partial evidence, presented out of order. In the show, Light has to make some 4D chess moves in his head about whether to make the correct assumption based on missing information that L never presented him with, or to purposefully make the wrong assumption. But how can he fake conviction towards a wrong assumption without looking like he's faking. In the show we get a solid 2 or 3 minutes of Light trying to strategize. But without the monologue, they both just stare at each other for 5 minutes. Light says 2 sentences. They stare at each other for another 3 minutes, and then they go right back to a seemingly normal conversation. And the idea of L just going along with it all makes the entire scene even funnier.
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It's this one, right?
@@bennitori4it’s literally one of my favorite deathnote videos
@@bennitori4 my favourite headcanon is that the monologues aren't just for audience comprehension, that is actually how they communicate and the rest of the task force learned to live with it.
@@bennitori4I just came from that video, and it was hysterical 😂😂 There’s no blinking or anything, it’s just a single frame up for ten seconds, but not one comment seemed to find it as funny as I did 🙃
Huh.. this, somehow makes the scene feel anxiety inducing without the internal monologue.
*Shudder..*
Hmmm. Probably.
the dynamic shots and close ups really help sell the scene, and the directing on light's body language make everything easy to understand. this first episode really was a masterpiece in anime.
I really love the direction of this show.
all that 15 years ago 🔥
This show is a masterpiece of anime indeed but I can't help notice upon watching it for like the 7th time how they didn't take the time to flesh out Light's character more so that we get an idea of how he thinks and how much of a "model" citizen he is. They just let him directly descend into madness. It feels very rushed. I though the manga did a better job here but it's the same.
Light could have been a terrifying villain. Like, we see everything from his pov, but if you observed him from an outsider perspective, he's absolutely chilling. Like, he's so good at acting normal that barely anyone in the series even entertained that he was Kira. If Kira's identity remained secret through the series, Light's reveal at the end would have been insane.
Or, imagine him as a Makima-type character, that's even scarier.
That's part of what made Matsuda's breakdown so sad. Everyone (except Matsuda) caught on that Light was Kira. But none of them had any clue how unhinged and fanatical he was. Because even when he was at his most ruthless, he never outwardly expressed that frantic side of himself. Only the audience got to see that side of him. So even the people who figured out it was him were shocked. And then poor Matsuda probably felt like his friend was switched with a lying imposter and he just couldn't take it.
@@bennitori4 I thought the ending was bad. I wanted to see light win ,since he lost I wanted his defeat to atleast make sense but it didn’t😂 He could’ve got out of it easily and won, but I hate that “the villain can never win” Trope and it seems like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn’t know how to kill him off
@@loni1771 read the manga, or at least the second half of it. the anime cuts out a lot of things from the ending half of death note. they completely ruined near's character, and the way they beat kira makes no sense in the anime. it works in the manga, though
@@isaacpoppe990 nah even in the manga it’s stretched how Nears Agent somehow was able to get close to mikami and copy his handwriting perfectly hand by hand in under a day. It’s like near’s character was just handed the dub against Light.
@@loni1771 thats because near and mello are deus ex machina created to defeat light, they literally appear out of nowhere after L died
Bruh I’ve never watched deathnote and this actually feels like amazing storyboarding without an internal monologue
What are you waiting for? Go watch it! It's fantastic.
Light's initial reaction to the Death Note feels so realistic without the internal dialogue. Not to say it isn't realistic normally, but watching everything play out on it's own with the long silences from Light as everything is unfolding is so cool to watch. Now, I can't say I relate to what he does afterwards with the Death Note (Although who really knows) but I can see myself reacting to this scenario in the exact way that Light does.
This scene is actually excellent without the monologues
I would kill to watch all of Death Note with all the internal monologuing cut out
thats essentially what happens every time near does anything in the anime
@@plunderedandmarooned yeah, from what I've learnt, his thought process was better shown in the manga
@@plunderedandmaroonedlol but now nobody likes Near coz of it😂😂
@@happilyevernever4289 exactly. people like death note because of the internal monologuing. the reason why this is funny is because we already know what light is thinking, and the deafening silence in juxtiposition with our expectation is humorous. however, this would not work on a larger scale, otherwise more people would watch season 2 of the anime of death note. but they dont, because its not a good formula.
@@plunderedandmarooned wait there is a season 2?
This feels way scarier. There’s no build up, so when it happens, it’s a shock. One little book has that much power.
Holy hell, this really shows how great "show, don't tell" can improve a show immensely
I need the entire anime edited this way SO BAD
This is what many animes lack, subtlety even Seinen animes. They just cant stop telling instead of showing.
Somehow more impactful than with the monologue.
I thought it would be funny but it's actually tense and intriguing
In any context the first kill honestly is what sold me on the show. The fact he thought it was stupid and fake made it feel grounded, then it turns out it worked and it completely shook his entire world.
Sadly it means he doomed his soul for eternity even it was morbid curiosity.
That’s the true horror of death note. Who ever uses it no matter what is doomed.
This presentation of the scene is actually pretty interesting, although I don’t know if it would hold up for the entire series. What I will say though is that this feels way more tense and claustrophobic - the relative silence of Light’s room creates a really creepy contrast with the violence that’s unfolding. It almost highlights the vibe of the Death Note more accurately (from the perspective of the average person, but possibly not Light’s) in that it’s a silent and insidious killer. The lack of melodrama here makes the power of the book scarier imo: it does exactly what it says it does on the inside cover and no more or less than that. A totally stone cold killer that will obediently kill anyone the user chooses.
This is a fantastic comment
I like how Light only talks out loud to push the idea of using the Death Note out of his mind. It's like he's trying to talk himself out of using it by highlighting how ridiculous it would be to expect it to work. Yet, he's already picked it up and brought it home. Even as he tells himself "lol how stupid" he has already decided to use it.
Also, I never realized how sudden the cut to the hostage crisis was until it played without internal monologue. This makes it seem like we skipped several minutes or maybe even a few hours of Light sitting there flipping through channels until he found something to use the Death Note on. Seems like despite shltting on the idea, Light already wanted the Death Note to be real, even before he saw evidence that it was. Maybe Kira was already in there, even before he got the book.
As someone who’s never seen the show, this seemed entirely natural, and I feel like adding internal dialogue to this would’ve felt cluttered and unnecessary. Though I could obviously be wrong, as I haven’t seen ir
I agree, but the problem is that Death Note has a ton of scenes like this, and it would be very hard to know what's going on and what characters' plans and motives are without internal dialogue
I never watched Death Note before (aside from out of context references), but this scene was perfectly coherent.
1) Light reads the book and its rules, note the “must picture target’s face” rule in frame.
2) Light believes it is some sort of prank, but is still superstitious
3) He sees an opportunity on TV. He can test the book on a hostage crisis. If the book is a prank, nothing will happen. If the book is legit, he would have fixed a bad situation. No risk really.
4) he tries it out, thanks to a police mugshot of the suspect on TV
5) due to TV/information delay, nothing happens immediately. He almost writes it off
6) the news reports that the suspect suddenly collapsed with no police intervention
7) Light realizes that the book is legitimate, but is interrupted by his mother
If I had to guess the continuation, Light has time to reflect and believes it is a coincidence. So he waits for another similar opportunity to show up again. When it does, he tries again. It works. Premise established.
You are correct (he also doesn't speak at all during the next few scenes, just wonders who it should be and why).
Dude, this is way better! The internal monologue does have its place in the show, but in moments like this, the scene speaks for itself
This feels so much more restrained and a little more realistic. I don't know how else to describe it except this is how Death Note used to feel like to me?? Like when I first watched it? This is just way more chilling to watch
This is such a well made anime that the silence itself communicates everything going through his head
This is actually even more terrifying. The tension is INTENSE within the silence
It raises the intensity for the viewer as they need to breakdown the character’s visible emotions. Very entertaining
It's so intense and atmospheric
ok, the "looks like the book doesn't work" part at 1:28 was amazingly smooth without the monologue. This video just even further up-ed my appreciation of this show.
This feels more intense, the confusion and panic all just surging at once
In manga form, internal monologue is necessary to fill in the visual gaps that can't be communicated panel by panel.
In anime form, when you can-in detail-animate every subtle eye movement and facial expression, it really does become so much more to _show_ and not _tell_ what the characters are thinking.
L later went on to say that this was the least severe of all the crimes committed by Kira's victims...
This man held kids hostage lol
Would've been so cool to hear more information about Kira's victims. Would add to the moral dilemma of the show.
Prisoners, randomly murdering average prisoners.
Innocent detectives too, I think he killed innocents way too much
@@famevx as far as criminals, he tended to only kill guilty ones. Light remarks that Higuchi kills anyone and everyone who appears on the news while the original Kira had a more refined process.
Kira also killed Misa's parent's murderer, who was legal on paper, so he did kill an "innocent" there.
Yeah, but he's not said to have physically harmed them, or killed anyone prior to this incident. Holding someone hostage only requires preventing them from leaving the area, and the goal of the police in this situation is generally to offer a non-violent way for the suspect to exit the situation, so that the situation doesn't progress to violence, and the hostages aren't harmed, or harmed further than they have been.
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But he's not the police. He can kill the criminal straight up.
I kinda like these no-internal-monologue scenes better than the original!
oh i really enjoy how... eerily quiet this is...
the weight of the moment is so much heavier
anime fans watching something without unnecessary exposition for the first time in their life:
Maybe one day we'll have an edit without internal monuluge. Its weird how it enhanced the scene for me
This is honestly so much more appealing. Not having seen the show in years I’m finding my imagination of what he could be thinking is running wild. The silence is really so powerful. Wish more creators would utilise quiet
Not knowing that he's thinking and having to depend on facial expressions and what happens makes it more intense
Despite the fact that the constant internal monologues are one of my favorite things about the show, this is actually a REALLY interesting way to frame this scene.
We actually realize most of the dialogue in this show is just Light talking to himself
This is actually awesome. I can’t imagine it would work this well for the whole series though lol
No monologue scene with Light and L at the coffee shop
truth be told it feels so much more like an intense psychological thriller
finally, death note doesnt constantly insult the viewers intelligence by explaining fucking everything via internal monologue
While Death Note is heavy on exposition, it doesn't feel redundant tbh
@@AkerfeldtTveitan-yi4xm while the monologues never outright ruined the experience for me, I do think that silence plays just as important a role in a shows storytelling and sound design as dialogue does. silence can show us a lot about a character. i even think removing the music from this scene would have improved it even further. it creates a tension that wasn't there before.
I never considered the fact that since he can literally control the time, manner of death, and actions before death in great detail, he could have simply written "Criminal decides to live an honest and fulfilling life without commiting crimes and immoral actions, before dying in his sleep at the age of 80."
Like yeah, it doesn't punish criminals or make people fear him as a God, but it does create his Utopia, or works towards it at least. It also would not entertain Ryuk, so he might just take the book back, but eh.
this is actually so cool, this scene does a lot to show us what he's thinking without telling us, it almost makes the scene better, this shows the power of visual storytelling.
I wonder if the entire show can work without Light's thoughts, probably not since he explains a lot of his plans in his head, but it would be interesting to watch without knowing what light will do next (not as a first watch but as a second)
Damn, those intense stares, they last just enough to actually convey that something is going on in that mind. Love it.
I would write my own name first thing.
As a joke, but then when my heart stops, I think I wouldn't regret my decision.
hahaha
you okay?
This is correct. Due to the lack of a functioning brain upon death, a dead person has no more regrets
I dont think you can
I hope things go best for you
there's so much more tension when there's no internal monologue. it'd be interesting to see an edit of all of death note like that, no one has an internal monologue
can you make more of this? it's really interesting seeing this without internal monologue, gives a totally different vibe
i like how you can see the signs of Light's psychopathy even this early, the first victim's death could be justified and most people would think that this was done in "good will" but the fact that he wrote his name so quickly and after realizing that he killed a person he perfectly acted out his usual self to his mom, now that's a huge sign of psychopathy
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what would you expect him to do, say "mom!!! i wrote some guy on the news name in a book and he died!!"
Isn't that just restrains?
Light is really shocked and tries to abandon the Death Note too.
I think you're just projecting what you already know about the character. I've never seen the series and don't plan to, unless there is a release that removes all of the internal monologue.
From my perspective i just perceive him as being in shock. Which would make sense because there is no real way to be certain that he is the cause of that man's death. Anyone in his position would wonder if it could it have been a coincidence. He is a teenager from what I've looked up on the internet. So to me his reaction seems completely normal, and if i did watch the series the reveal that he's a psychopath would be really quite surprising.
Instead I'd likely be spoon fed exposition left and right. I wish anime wasn't so exposition heavy, it really holds it back from telling truly amazing stories.
Also your assessment is naturally wrong, you can't discern a psychopath from a neurotypical person. If you could just based off of a 3 minute interaction then they wouldn't be a very good psychopath now would they?
@@martingonzalez3629why don't you wanna watch it?
Why is this so much better? I guess it's because anime doesn't do show don't tell.
It wouldn’t work, his more complex plans would make you completely confused lol. That’s why death note can’t be live action.
This legitimately takes it from feeling like an anime to feeling like one of those prestige drama's. Like it feels more like breaking bad or better call saul.
Knowing Japanese stance on weed, imagine how many innocent people Light murdered because they had a record at all.
Great... now I like both this and the original version
I’ve never seen Death Note but this is kinda captivating. Im glad the comments are saying that the internal monologue is a good feature of the anime, bc id hate to have this video ruin it for me if i end up watching it. But i do really enjoy this. It’s kinda subtle, even if I know exactly what’s happening.
it's actually just as effective
It’s crazy how majority of the dialogue is Light’s thoughts in the anime
Imagine the rest of the show without monologues. The two people who haven't seen Death Note would be very confused.
Ngl if this is what animes were written like I would actually like it somewhat. No shitty internal monologues that only serve to fill run time and cop out on visual storytelling. For me it absolutely ruins pacing and makes me feel like the writers think that I'm too stupid to be able to infer character intentions so they compensate by having characters painstakingly explain every single possible minute detail about topics.
I wonder if ALL THIS would have happened if he had turned off the TV in time? Logically, he would simply throw away the notebook and forget about it. He would have missed that report with the first victim and that's it.
Even though I thought the writing was perfect, this rendition adds intensity to the scenes, actually would be sick to see a full version of this