Should you stop drinking MILK? | How To Cook That Ann Reardon
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- Should you stop drinking cow's milk, almond milk, oat milk or soy milk? Let's look at milk and debunk some of the myths.
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Thank you so much for speaking to your audience in a respectful, intelligent way instead of treating us like dumb children the way most content creators do.
You're welcome 😀
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I'm allergic to cow's milk, so I have to be really careful and make sure none of my food has milk listed in the ingredients. It is crazy to me that people think that they are essentially entirely giving up cow's milk just by giving up the stuff from the jug. There are sooooooooooo many things that aren't even obvious to people that don't have to avoid it that are full to bursting with cow's milk. Lots of sauces will have milk or butter or whey in. Cereal might have dried forms of milk in, especially when they're of the chocolate variety. I'm not even safe with 'plant based' things, they might still have milk in.
You have to check EVERY SINGLE LABEL and go to the trouble of asking servers at almost every restaurant (because most suck about listing their allergens) to check if something has milk in. It's a lot of work and I don't understand why anyone would do it just for funsies
Unfortunately it is the same as soon as you try to avoid a food : sugar is everywhere, palm oil also, and gluten is more present than air. Some people don't drink cow"s milk "from the bottle" because they just don't feel like. It's not "the funsies", it's just a personal choice I don't see why you are so butthurt about it
If you mean vegans it's because the idea of drinking milk is more distressing than avoiding it so it's worth that effort, I'm lactose intolerant so have to avoid milk and it isn't that difficult in the UK at least (we legally have to have it clearly listed on all packaging, including risk of cross contamination)
@@etdicila8894 I wasn't suggesting this was in any way unique to cow's milk, merely pointing out that those who do want to fully cut out cow's milk from their diet for whatever reason are probably going to have a harder time at it than they think. Heck, I'm having a hard time at it, and I've had to be doing it for my whole life.
It's also perfectly fine not to drink cow's milk for whatever reason, but people doing that should also be aware that it's probably not putting a big dent in how much cow's milk they consume, unless they eat lots of cereal and drinks with milk in and everything else they eat is almost entirely handmade from scratch.
@@pgakt I more meant those only cutting out milk from the jug for climate/health reasons as shown in the video.
I also live in the UK, I think it's a lot easier to avoid the big sources of milk here (milk alternatives are readily available and so are cheeses, yoghurts, butters, and ice-creams) than it is to avoid all the little places it shows up everywhere, like I have to. It's not impossible, but it takes a lot of shopping around and learning what to stay away from
@@SunnyB_adventures Ohh I see
MatPat and Anne debating over milk and greens is the kind of TH-cam drama I enjoy.
She really cleared him 😭 with props of cabbage and everything
It’s not really a drama… just a debate.
Tbh i'm more prone to trust Anne since ya know FOOD scientist and well there is no history of misinformation that i am aware of, and Mat unfortunately..well if he is willing to lie about video games he is likely to lie about food
@@hornedskullasmr7811 I think what a lot of people forget is that its game, film, food 'theory' hes saying its a theory, he isnt lying about games or food, hes just giving his ideas, and i think a lot of people forget that. But I agree u should trust ann more for food considering she is a food scientist, but my point is that his videos are theory videos, not confirmed, not saying if you dont do this its wrong, but the fact that they are ideas based off some research.
@@antoinebutterfly8555 Hey... everyone makes mistakes. In Mat's response video, he mentions that his team overlooked the cabbage thing. It was an honest mistake, but sure, act immature over something as small as that.
watching the momma cow chase after the van with her calf in it just broke my heart.
same. it's haunting.
my brother was allergic to milk when he was a child, he went through a special therapy to acclimatise his body to milk, and now he's fine with it. Ironically, he's also allergic to nuts, and that hasn't gone away, so the option for milk alternatives were quite narrow when we were kids.
I was also allergic to both milk and nuts when I was a kid, but I grew out of them. Well, not quite, since I still test as allergic to nuts, especially peanuts (which aren’t actually real nuts) but I don’t have a problem eating them. My brother still can’t, though.
Most kids do grow out of milk allergies (eggs as well), but nut allergies tend to stay. It’s not totally clear why
Problem is pasteurised milk, I've switched many to raw milk and they've had no issues now. Luckily in the UK we can get raw milk, butter and cheese but not always easily accessible.
@IntercityLisko Yeah, no problem that I'm aware of. I mean, I might medically be allergic, but in practice I don't have any reactions worth mentioning.
@IntercityLisko Well, I have bunch of other allergies as well, including pets. It's almost always about loose hairs. So if you keep the pets and house clean, then it's often okay.
A little bit on a tangent here, but I’m rewatching The Good Place right now, specifically the part where the team makes their case to the judge. Ann’s discussion about the environmental impact of cattle farming reminds me of that. There are so many factors that the conscientious consumer doesn’t even know about. And those factors that we are familiar with interweave in complex ways beyond untangling. And it’s so unfair that modern society puts the greater amount of burden of making ethical choices on the consumer
It's the same way as blaming climate change on individuals not recycling plastic, when 80% of the co2 emissions come from just the 18 biggest corporations in the world. It's a way for capitalism to deflect and misrepresent the societal problem it is causing into an individual problem.
It is unfair. Places ban plastic straws and baggies and such as a bandaid solution, yet let huge polluters get away with doing objectively more harm. We really could use better recycling programs rather than just sending the waste to Asia to be burned (that's how it is, as far as I know, here in the US. Heard that Australia made it illegal to export recycling materials, great start for them)
@@thatradfailure5197 The worst part of the western-countries-shipping-their-waste-to-China problem is that the environmental impact of that trash rotting away is then tallied up on China's count instead of ours. It's a nice little trick to keep creating An Outsider Enemy instead of looking at our own corporate leaders.
(nb: the Chinese government is still awful in many ways I'm not defending the many human rights issues they got going on)
This is a good point. I think it would be helpful to have environmental labels on products (a bit like the traffic light system for nutritional values). If this information is more transparent and easier to understand, it helps consumers make choices and also puts pressure on companies to improve their scores.
I think the main challenge would be ensuring the scoring is accurate and unbiased, or we just fall back into the current greenwashing issues.
Fun fact about bone density: one of the common osteoporosis medicines is a strontium supplement. Strontium is chemically similar to calcium, so it can fit into bones, but it doesn't leave the bones as easily as calcium.
Related fun fact: One of the reasons they stopped aboveground nuclear testing is they figured out radioactive forms of strontium from the bombs were ending up in kids' bones and getting stuck there, and there was concern that that'd cause cancer.
I'm very glad you bring up the point about phytates and oxalates. It comes up all the time in the clinic whenever people are surprised they have iron deficiency anaemia despite eating large amounts of leafy green, and they're always so shocked when I tell them that the phytates and oxalates chelate out the iron and calcium and make them unavailable to absorb. And then I always have to reiterate that leafy greens are great to eat to get your vitamins and that just because they're technically iron/calcium poor is not an excuse to eliminate leafy greens from the diet lmao. This is why health education and food education are so important, because most of them believe in the hype around these foods so much, but when they realise what's actually going on, well... In the words of the great Beyoncé and Lady Gaga, trust is like a mirror-you can fix it if it's broken, but...
If you live in the US, bear in mind that plant milks in grocery stores don’t legally have to be fortified, so always look on the label to see.
Also, calcium-set tofu is a good thing to add to your diet if you’re looking to get more calcium. Not all tofu is calcium-set, so be sure to check.
This is a great tip!
The same is true in the UK, some plant milks are fortified and other's aren't. Check the label so you know what you're getting.
I know everyone is trying to do their best for animals and environment but soy and avocados are some of the worst things for the environment unfortunately. I'm sticking w regular cows milk personally but as long as everyone knows it purely effects animals and not environment, drink what u like 😄
@@rubthesleep First, no one is drinking avocado milk. I would go back and compare different plant milks to cows milk before making that decision.
Second, animal agriculture in general (including meat, milk and eggs) is one of the leading causes of climate change, and the more humane it is for the animals, the worse of an impact it has on the environment. Factory farming takes less land, time, and resources than humane farming. To solve both problems at once, I’m just avoiding animal products altogether.
@@rubthesleep As bad as they can be, animal agriculture is worse. The argument is nor even about the treatment of animals, but the environmental impact.
Another thing I see often (student dietitian here) when people talk about the nutrients of kidney beans is comparing their dry weight (unsoaked) with milk instead of their soaked/cooked weight which can be just as misleading as talking about gram for gram rather than comparing servings. It's no wonder people get confused! 🌯🥫 Thanks again for your awesome content Ann ❤️
I think the only think that is confusing people are the industry funded studied that make it into place like People magazine because they tell us what we want to hear. I am sorry but dairy is scary. There is no arguing this from a scientifically sound place. A couple cups of beans/lentils, plenty of veggies esp cooked greens, some seeds you are easily hitting RDAs. It isn't wrong. No one is going around eating 250 grams of JUST raw kale. Kids love kale smoothies and well seasoned cooked greens though. At least kids that are raised on cooked greens. No one is going to argue its not easier to drink milk. Take a multivitamin and eat potato chips if you want all good. It is easy. However, milk is in no means healthy. Even the processed lower fat versions you typically imagine.
@@Andrew-hx9tz I don't know but soooo many people have issues with milk. Especially after 30s or 40s. Most people I know have to lower the amount of milk consumption a lot. I developed severe intolerances towards any milk products over the years and almost puked after one spoon of lasagna that had cheese in it. I sat there sweating, afraid to move, it was so bad. I rather take the 1 kilo of broccoli 😂
@@Andrew-hx9tz did you even watch Ann's video?
@@Andrew-hx9tz Maybe watch Ann's video before making these blanket statements?
@@Andrew-hx9tz If you have a brain, do start using it🙂
I grew up on a dairy farm. Our girls were treated better than the human kids lol. If one was sick, the vet was immediately called. We also never took the babies away. It's heartbreaking to see them go through such trauma. My grandparents also brought older girls from auctions to let them live out their lives instead of going to slaughter. As a kid, my friends were the animals on the farm. We had horses, donkeys, goats, and a few chickens. None were "food". My family just enjoyed watching and interacting with them. They each had their own personalities. I loved sitting on my grandparent's back porch and watching them play and carry on. I'm lucky to have an animal loving family.
When I was 17 it was all taken away from us by hurricane Katrina. We did all we could to save as many as possible. All but 2 of our cows died. The flood was so devastating to my family. The water was over 15 feet in some places. The worst part is that the water was contaminated with sewage, dead animals, and chemicals. So even if the animals didn't drown, they became sick or injured by chemicals like gasoline and diesel. Some had broken legs and ribs. It was just horrible all around. We are lucky to have survived but lost everything.
I'm sorry for your loss, but your story proves some of my arguments on the subject, mostly that the farmers need their cows so they take care of them and one cow produces multiple bottles of milk every single day, meanwhile there is no oversight on the health and well-being of the people harvesting the nuts and other alternatives and once a tree/field is harvested you'll have to wait till next year for any additional yeald. I've tried explaining to a Peta supporter that the cows will be in pain if not milked even if their baby is with them, but fanaticism is an incurable disease. So what those idiots that glue themselves in protest are actually saying is that they don't really care about people or the industry, they are just after some cheap publicity.
Unfortunately, I'm sensitive to lactose, so I'm forcing myself to drink oatmilk and almond milk and it's so hard to find ones that could even remotely fool me that it's milk I'm drinking. On the other hand, I'm fully prepared to face the wrath of an upset stomach for a good slice of cheese (and I'm talking real cheese, not the processed ones).
Your family doesn’t represent the world sorry to let u know
oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. I can't imagine how devastating that must've been. How are you now?
@@annak8755 How about no cows instead?
@@alalalala57 yes, Peta- Kill all the cows :D
(but also, don't forget to let them suffer and the meat go to waste so don't eat it)
So... I have no idea why any of this is happening in the first place. I feel like mats original video was completely fine and just mentioned alternative foods to eat instead of milk (which was like 30 seconds of his entire video) everything else was fine. Ann's video is good for talking about milk and it's alternatives. Neither video is wrong, ive been lactose intolerant for a very long time now and am now developing an allergy to it. I've actually been intolerant since I was 8 so both of these videos are really helpful. Growing up my family didn't have enough money to buy alternative milks because they are very expensive where I live. So I got most of my calcium from beans and broccoli. But now that I'm older( and have a stable job) I can start getting alternative milks now, I personally like soy a lot over oat and coconut but that's just me.
he misinformed people. he said those vegetables had more calcium than milk when it clearly doesn’t.
@@saram5964 Except it does in both weight and in absorption rate by the body. The only time it isn't is when you compare is by serving, which is quite a dumb measurement to compare by. plenty of things that people go overboard with in serving size.
@@janso8896 except most people aren’t going to eat that much food just to get the same amount as a cup of milk
@@saram5964 But what he said was true, it doesn't matter if you have a food that has a really high amount of calcium but you can't absorb it compared to a food that has a slightly lower amount of calcium you can actually absorb.
@@saram5964 except he did not mislead anyone, and they do infact have mnore calcium than milk gram for gram which is how science and math works as anne admits to.
It's great seeing plant based milk talked about in a normal, non-biased way.
I'm lactose intolerant so I have to have alternatives, and I get a lot of comments who say, "You know it's actually worse for you, right?" without knowing that I can't digest cow's milk.
I hope non dairy milk can be seen more as an alternative instead of a 'better/worse' kind of competition.
Oh yeah. This absolutely exists. For a while I had to go dairy-free, and I was a bit annoyed by the "almond milk is not real milk" thing. I got it from family members. They were mostly just funning, but I rolled my eyes at it. Like the dairy industry has the trademark on any substance called "milk."
Um...we know it's not cow's milk. That's the point.
I had to laugh too, after watching a "Tasting History" episode where Max looks at a medieval document that very clearly calls almond milk "almonde mylke." Sorry everyone. That's just what it's called! Has been for a long time!
Is that really happening? I find that a lot of people for no particular reason go “dairy free” because it’s trendy. People self diagnosing as lactose intolerant is also a big thing.
@@kristin123a I mean the thing with lactose intolorance is you don't need to go to a doctor's office to get an official diagnosis of an intolerance. Intolerance is a different thing than a milk allergy. If you drink milk and you get a really bad stomachache afterwards everytime, you probably have an intolerance to dairy. I'm not paying for a doctor's visit just to get told that information. It took me a while to figure it out, but I've discovered that if there's a higher content of milk or lactose in something, I have a worse reaction. For example, when I eat butter or Parmesan cheese, there is no reaction because there's little to no lactose in those items. But if I drink something with whole milk or eat ice cream, I have a much stronger reaction. Also, no one is required to disclose their dietary choices for you, and if someone said "because it's trendy/everyone else is doing it" that's just a canned response that isn't so personal.
@@kristin123a I get extremely sick when I have any dairy, I've had many people assume I'm vegan or just trying to quirky.
About 60% of the time I get what I actually order, and the other times people scoff or make some comment, at least in my area. I have to make it extemely clear that I have lactose issues or I might get unlucky.
I'm happy for you if this isn't a problem where you live, but it's something I have to face constantly.
@@mirandacasper6151 She's talking about the victimhood cult people who need things to be "special" for themselves. They'll go from eating dairy nonstop to suddenly being intolerant or "allergic" to it because they've decided they can accrue victim points from it. You'll know exactly who they are because they'll never shut up about it. People who are actually lactose intolerant don't feel the need to mention it at every possible opportunity.
As an agricultural researcher, I really appreciate your acknowledging how hard it is to quantify environmental impact due to the many factors that go into making, storing, and transporting a product. The exact same product, produced at two different locations, can have vastly different environmental impacts. The obvious factor here is the energy needed for transportation, but also consider things like where is the water coming from (rainfall or maybe a river that is being pumped dry to meet human water demands), what was the land before production started (i.e. are you using existing farmland or are you converting natural land), what kind of soils are you dealing with (sandy soils are particularly prone to leaching, where fertilizers, stored animal manure, and other inputs are more like to travel through the soil and into the groundwater that humans use for drinking water), etc.
You say the “obvious factor”. That’s a matter if prospective. If you look at it from a carbon perspective the “obvious factor” is different. I’ve seen plenty of analysis that shows the GHG emissions associated with dairy, nothing that counteracts that. If there was evidence to show it, you’d think the dairy lobby would be shouting about it.
Thanks for these considerations! I'd also say that one of the best things you can do in general is make sure that you're eating as locally as possible, and especially foods that are adapted to the area you live in - heritage crops, etc. It's hard to find everything you need that way but it can be so worth it to know who is farming your food and how it gets to your plate.
@@symetryrtemys2101 GHGs are only ONE among a number of environmental issues that need to be considered, but I have read studies and reports that contradict the commonly held belief you espouse. Why weren't they talked about more? That comes down to who decides what information is worth reporting. If you look at the state of media today you may actually be able to see where the issue lies.
The problem is far more complex than just GHGs, though, and that is what Kirsten was getting at. Deforestation is just as devastating to the environment, but in an entirely different way, and soil leaching is even MORE problematic as it can render arable land non-arable meaning LESS land is available to grow in.
My point is, picking a single issue and using that as the sole metric, as many are wont to do, drastically underplays the other environmental issues surrounding each form of agriculture, be it crop or livestock. My recommendation is to take another look at Kirsten's comment and learn about the other environmental factors she wrote about, because they may impact your viewpoint.
Also type of animal, lower impact ruminants like Goats will have a lesser effect on grazing lands compared to cows because of their ability to process much lower quality feed stocks (i.e scrublands rather than managed pasture)
However the counter to this would be the use of goats to deforest land that otherwise unsuitable for cropping and grazing and hence left to the local environment, is now available for farming.
@@symetryrtemys2101 prospective or perspective?
Your video + Food Theory's response are going in my lessons to show how scientists can debate and improve information. The way its supposed to be done :)
that's unfortunate. I find it more like how politicians debate.
Are we going to get an update from this channel I want to know if any opinions might have been changed?
@@tyler5271 It would probably be best for her if she didn't. MatPat's "defense" video is full of holes and doesn't contradict anything she said in her video. But he has a large audience and is good at manipulating them. So it's probably best for her if she just lets it die.
@@blanktom6049 yeah I noticed that as well he didn't address a lot of her other points he even cropped out some of her sentences as she was explaining something so she didn't even get to finish her point and then he acted like he did something even though he didn't let her finish and another major point is his whole by servings argument is really weird like why would you measure things in the way he's measuring it if we're talking about actual functional information and consumption that people can use the day-to-day basis obviously by servings is the way to go because they're going to use that information thinking they're getting enough calcium from a normal salad then they would from milk when clearly that's not the case but he's trying to make it sound like it is it's almost as he just can't admit that he kind of used a faulty method to measure calcium when talking about normal people and how they would use that information but can't admit to it mainly cuz he's never been the type to take criticism well
@@blanktom6049 Because it wasn't meant to contradict her at all? He says multiple times in the video that he is not discrediting or contradicting her, and even says on multiple occasions that she is correct in what she says. Just because he didn't whine about it or start a flame war doesn't mean he failed in his response. As for your claim that his video is "full of holes," I think you should put your money where your mouth is and explain exactly how it is full of holes with links to credible sources that you actually researched. But knowing the internet, you won't and basically just prove that you're just an idiot, which would be equally as hilarious to see as you finding out the truth and trying to spin a lie anyway. Then there is your claim that he manipulates his audience, which I would also like to know exactly how he manipulates his audience considering he has never once done that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a chance to explain exactly how he manipulates people, again, with links to where you researched the information.
In the end, all you have to do is definitely prove what you clearly "know" to be the truth, so it really shouldn't be that hard, right?
So, I watched all three of these videos on milk to see what up and I found that combined they paint a very well rounded picture of milk. It makes sense the How to Cook That compared serving sizes because she focuses a lot on cooking and diet. It makes no sense to replace a cup of milk with enough beans to build a sandcastle, especially in a recipee. But I also loved how Food Theory pointed out how advertisement affects your view on milk. Also, if you've seen the Film Theory episode about transmutation in FMA, it makes sense why they'd use gram to gram comparison. For X amount of calcium how much kale or milk would you need? Brew's video was also a lot of fun! He went into mythologies that imply that milk one of the first things to exist in the universe at all (in some cases THE first even.). All three of them explained the Lactase Persistence mutation (which I never get sick of hearing about /genuine. Like I swear if I come across a video that is only about Lactase Persistence, I will watch the whole thing) I don't think this is evidence of plagiarism from any of these vids. Food Theory and Brew asked a very similar question so it makes sense that they brought up similar evidence.
And, storytime! in 2020, before I had ever seen any of these videos, I wanted to make a video about milk and I had planned for the thumbnail to be of a skeleton drinking milk from a glass. Like, I keep hearing milk is good for your bones so I wanted the human bones to be drinking milk. I honestly don't think any thumbnails were lowkey stolen. :)
TL;DR: I thoroughly enjoyed ALL four of these videos and appreciate the three takes on it. :)
In the first place, define a serving of broccoli and milk.
Not that you actually can, because "serving" is a stupid arbitrary metric that varies wildly by not only country, but by demographic. A serving of anything to a kid is bound to be lower than a serving of anything to an adult, and even amongst adults a serving to a sedentary adult is bound to be lower than a serving of anything to a very physically active adult.
Then a serving to a male is also bound to be different to a serving to a female, servings are different between blacks whites asians etc.
@@cat-vv9xb exactly! That’s why Food Theory compares gram to gram. Serving sizes can vary but a gram is a gram is a gram. But, when cooking serve size is important because the sizes vary on who’s eating it! Like you said the size can vary between adult male and a child. So when it comes to diet, you have to keep in mind who’s eating. You can’t give a kid 6 full cabbages. Both channels makes sense, both were right. I enjoyed all four vids. 😌
@@cat-vv9xb The only person who compared serving size though was Mat on his "debunk" video when looking at the broccoli.
@@irishhotshot6765 you need to watch the video again. She is showing the amount of milk you world need to consume for 300mg of calcium vs. how much kale you world need to consume for the same amount (300mg) of calcium. She’s comparing equal amounts of calcium, not serving sizes.
@@irishhotshot6765 no worries, but it’s the same with the broccoli. You watched the video, right? You saw the amount of broccoli she had in the plate, right? There’s no way that is one serving of broccoli. She’s comparing equal amounts of calcium and showing you how much you would need of each.
After some digging I came to the conclusion that to me personally, the best option is locally produced oat milk! This video absolutely highlights the fact that there is no "one solution fits all" in these questions and that we all should do a little bit of research where we get our food from and what it is. Thank you Ann!
Thank you for using local oat milk!
@@RT-wm3wb bro why you thanking her. is she buying the oat milk from you or what? y’all corny
oat milk ftw!
@@ioana7547 Only if they buy corn milk XD
@@ioana7547 salty much
Actually a lovely little farm called Elgaar Farm in Tassie discovered that actually, if you leave the bobby calves with their mothers, they just produce more milk. Very wholesome little bunch. Used to be able to get their milk in Melbs but I think their supply chain went.
Had there been a formal study, most farms would think twice (just a saying. More like tenfold) before sending away the poor baby cows.
Then processing them.
Don't tell the cows.
This is such a delightfully Australian comment lol
@@nodezsh No one is going to think twice. They produce more milk. Not enough milk to compensate giving the milk to the calves. Esp if you had to keep the males around. Esp on an industrial scale when profits need to be much better and that many heads cannot be properly monitored.
As someone else commented. They might produce more milk. But you don't harvest more milk because it's going to feed other cows
There is no beef between these creators and they were both trying to inform their respective audiences. Ultimately you can see that they are both hardworking content creators when you look at their videos, and everyone makes mistakes. I'm choosing to stay subbed to both of them, they both make quality content
Nah you can tell that matpat was pissed at Anne especially with a lot of the passive aggressive jabs at the end
@@TasX yep thos videos take weeks to produce
There is beef, plenty of it from anne, she is still trying to say that mat was wrong
It’s not the fact of them having beef. You can create content without bashing someone else’s video. This is someone’s whole career and something like what this women did, with off hand comments even before she started her topic is not cool. There are plenty of videos they talk about milk without bashing someone else.
@@TasX Well it's kinda reasonable.
I’m curious - when foods/drinks are fortified with calcium, where does that calcium typically come from? Is it from rocks? Is it extracted from calcium-rich foods? Does the source make a difference in how it is absorbed?
there could be multiple different sources but the most common compound is calcium carbonate. the compound makes the difference not the source. clacium citrate or a ligand calcium is best absorbed.
Interestingly, I've found that the lactose-free milk keeps for a lot longer than regular milk. It doesn't go sour as quickly, probably because the fermentation doesn't happen in the same way with the lactase added. It is a big plus for me, since I only use a little bit for my morning tea every day.
Have you heard of UHT milk?
It keeps longer because it's ultra-pasteurized, which is necessary for the lactose to be broken down.
A lot of the process of milk going bad is bacteria and fungi eating the sugar and then farting and crapping in the milk. So I can see why milk without the milk sugar would keep longer. No lactose for the bacteria and fungi to eat, nothing for them to fart/poop out.
Not sure about the milk where you live, but a tetrapack of normal milk last me up to three weeks when kept in the fridge. Mind you I only use it for cooking after a week or so has passed, because while the taste isn't off, it's not worth the risk of potential e. coli. 🤷
@@Ms3queen as Ann said I'm the video with the carbonated milk, what causes it to go sour is the butyric acid, Wich is the waste of some bacteria that eats lactose. So yeah, without lactose there's no food and thus no sour milk ( at least until the fat in the milk starts going rancid)
Not only do Ann's creations look and taste amazing (i can tell
very true
It's absolutely refreshing that such content remains possible on TH-cam. Grateful to her!
Agreed!
She is also juuuust humble enough to still roast those that present absurd statements.
"You can replace milk with cabbage, you say? Well I'm glad you love cabbage that much because this means you eat 30 times more cabbage than the average person, just to replace this tiny glass of milk. Look!"
Time for you to all go vegan!
Check with food theory for accurate up to date Calcium needs or questions, he just did a great video explaining it.
He left out the beans... Even though he said he would address them at 7:30 in his video. Seems an awful lot of beans to eat if Ann is correct here.
You are the first person that I have seen in this comment section that isn’t being rude and disrespectful to either side, and I applaud you for that! /gen
@@pingidjit that did break my heart, I love beans :(
@@jayceyanimatesstuff lmao It’s not even a big deal I just watch food theory when I’m eating, figured everyone would be under these comments now and yea lots of negativity, should be helping each other become more knowledgeable. There’s literally no reason to be rude over milk and kale/lettuce.
@@ethanleclair498 Exactly!! I literally had to brace myself before opening the comments, I could already tell it was gonna be a shit show lol
Food theory’s response video to this is so great
cuz its dumb, such as everyone who's against milk ~~
@@koyomiararagl says you
@@koyomiararagl coming from the guy who doesn't sound like they do thier own research
@@koyomiararaglI feel like your numb in the mind, he didn’t even say milk was bad he just basically said there’s alternative ways of getting calcium
The introduction of lactose free milk has helped my family a lot, the dairy alternatives are so expensive here and it just makes such a difference for all of us lactose intolerants in the family :) love this in depth look:)
Hello, fellow lactose intolerant family! :D Just curious, is there also no "organic" lactose free milk available to you where you live? Because where I live, there's either regular milks, "organic" milks, plant milks, OR lactose free milks, but I've never, ever seen an "organic" lactose free milk, and it's actually kind of upsetting the option doesn't seem to exist, which is one reason I buy a lot of plant milk. If I had ethically sourced lactose free milk available to me, that would be an awesome option.
@@hannahg.8572 You should inquire what the term "organic" has to legally entail where you live; it's possible that the processing necessary to make lactose-free milk would barr the producers from labeling their product as "organic", even if the milk otherwise satisfies the criteria.
@@DangerSquiggles You're completely right, the reason I was using "organic" in parantheses was because it's the closest translation to the label used in the country I live in, but it's not a literal equivalent in terms of what that actually entails. Sadly that doesn't change that there are only like 2-3 common brands that offer lactose free options, which one can assume are the same quality as the other milk they sell, while the known animal-friendly brands only sell "natural" milk full of lactose, as far as I have seen. :(
@@hannahg.8572 It's extremely hard to find organic milk that's also lactose free as there isn't much of a market for it. To be classified as organic in the United States at least, every part of the process the milk under goes needs to be certified as organic, which gets quite expensive. If you are concerned about organics, a lot of products (especially at health food stores) will state they were made with organic food, even if the final product isn't fda approved as organic.
If you are in Europe unfortunately getting organic food is a nightmare. There are lots of subsidies for traditional foods in Europe, meaning that "ethical" practices for food growing and animal raising isn't as prevalent, especially within the dairy industry.
@@hannahg.8572 I get Organic Valley lactose free milk. There are a couple other brands of organic lactose free milk at my local grocery stores too... But I'm also in Wisconsin. We have a loooooot of milk options here.
This was beautifully informative, thank you. I used to live in the Central Valley of California, a local farmer called “Rosa Bros.” Produces their own milk and dairy. They started with just milk but asked their consumers whom purchased their milk at local grocery stores that the milk was distributed to save the bottles they used. They would save them and bring them back to the store where the grocers would hold onto them for someone to come collect the bottles. They would be washed and sterilized and filled again. It was like a milk man for the masses.
There is a dairy like that near me in Southeastern Michigan, and I love the glass bottles, for the re-use (instead of recycling) factor, and I find milk and cream out of glass bottles tastes better!
From central CA. I know whos brand your talking about
Where in Central CA? I was in Fresno I never heard of it! I would have definitely bought it if I had. Sounds cool!
I miss the milk man, was a common site growing up in the uk
@@TheRocketbabydoll yes, I grew up with milk delivery as well, in Australia. You'd put your empty glass bottles out and they'd be reused. Sometimes the magpies would poke holes in the shiny tops, trying to get them. There was always that bit of cream on top.
I remember telling my kids about it, they were so surprised.
Hi Ann. I am a big fan of your channel. When I saw this video I went and left a comment on MattPatts original video, since I am also a fan of his content, asking to elaborate/correct. His response has just come out, which seems to do a good job at clarifying a few things and if I might add he is very respectful to you in it.
Would you be able to comment on the validity of his new arguments against milk?
Hi Nick, Broccoli does not have as much calcium as milk whether you look at cooked / raw/ gram for gram / per serve / bioavailability. All of these calculations have milk coming out on top. To get it the other way around in the response video he starts with broccoli having 180mg of calcium/100g which is 4x what the usda data base says for broccoli. He seems to use a misdirection by discussing varying food manufacturers serving sizes on food labels - which while important in other comparisons is not relevant here. When you simply look at how much of this food do I need to eat to get the calcium - the "serve size" is the amount on the plate - nothing to do with food labels. Will you realistically eat that much kale in a day? Or that many beans? If so - great it is a viable source of calcium for you. If not choose a milk or milk alternative. It really isn't that complicated.
@@HowToCookThat The amount of food on a plate varies, this would be a terrible way to measure or compare anything.
@@HowToCookThat That's not quite fair - he showed his source, UCSF, and if you go on their website, that's the exact number he used. Calling any of this misdirection is grossly mischaracterizing how he went about discussing this. I thought he was fair to you, and I don't think you're showing the same consideration in these comments.
@@HowToCookThat oh wow. So did you watch his response video?
@@HowToCookThat accusing him of stealing thumbnails then accusing him of intentionally misleading his viewers smh this seems pretty bad faith
I just imagine the channel creator waking up the next day after a nice relaxing weekend and suddenly finding a bunch of notifications for comments on this specific video after the food theory response video. XD
All the toddlers are mad that they both where talking about differences in measurements
And the adults that don’t appreciate someone accusing another creator of misinformation by using one sentence from a 15 minute video, then changing what was said to suit her narrative
@@jtyler9130 says the toddler
@@benjaminlingle3493 dont call people toddlers, and you spelt were as where just so you know
Also JTyler91 was also wrong in the fact that he unfairly pointed out, where both got stuff wrong
My brother had such painful lactose intolerance (and we ate so much dairy) that before it was diagnosed, he had to stop marching band, and his doctor thought he might have a hernia or something.
Then one night he took lactase before a cheesy dinner just to see… and his months-long pain was gone. He was so annoyed that the solution was that simple.
I am a doctor in nutrition. And this video is very well done, respectful and very well researched. Thank you for this video
As a dairy farmer that is responsible for calves I would like to add that we don't separate the calves for the milk as the first days the calf gets colostrum which the first couple of days is not for human consumption (some exceptions), but for the calves health. Research and experience shows that a higher percentage of calves survive that way. Some calves had a hard birthing which makes them too weak to drink or they are just a bit dumb and don't get what to do fast enough. Some mumcows need rest after birthing and won't stand up for a little while, don't have enough milk or they walk away when the calf wants to drink. As the first 2 days of colustrum are essential to survival we milk the cow, monitor it and give it to get calf or when issues arise supplement with colostrum from another cow that we get from the freezer and warm up. The calf I feed myself and check up at the same time (if they eat enough, no diarrhoea, navel heals well, etc.). They see me as their mum and I make sure they are taken care of. I love the calves and it's a lifestyle.
But land cleared for crops? What about the rainforest? That’s being cleared for cattle, so I’ve heard.
And anyway, how is that an answer to using grazing area for raising vegetables?
@@hopegold883 The land we farm on has been farmed on since the middle ages, so there is no additional clearing here and I am currently planting 20 more trees for my own pleasure and for the environment. Our fields are also very impractically small and oddly shaped due to being older which in turn makes it less efficient for the large machinery for wheat. Also there is a lot of clay and wetness in our soil (heavy soil) which makes it harder for large machines and some crops as well. Farmers do try to be efficient and generalisations of third world practices do not help. I am a dutch farmer who produce a lot of the milk consumed worldwide.
@@franciscas1938 i would love too see your farm😭
@@franciscas1938 planting trees doesn't really help the environment compared to the environmental damage caused by cattle production(and doesn't do a whole lot overall because we can't outplant the rainforest destruction caused from cattle production). Even just the cows you raise produce far more green house gasses than your entire field filled with trees would use in equivalent Co2. The issue is more industrial farms for sure but I would assume even you as a dairy farmer sell the calves for slaughter and after those 2 days put them on formula and when the cows stop producing I doubt you just feed them and love on them all day. You might but again I doubt you have the land for that humanely. Even if you do...99% of farms don't. When a cow isn't profitable they kill them or sell them to be killed. These industries are 100% related. You can't say you love something that you support and allow to live only as long as it is profitable. You can't humanely kill things because they are inconvenient to you. Selling them for other people to kill is still killing them. These are just some of the reasons why you can paint it however you want but you are not this in the field by hand milking the extra to use for your family and neighbors while letting the calves get their fill. This would be a lifestyle. You have a job. There is a very big difference.
Your unbiased, factual, and scientific assessments are a welcome relief from social media nonsense. Thanks for being a wholesome and honest source of information and entertainment!
MatPat and Ann: **Trying to iron out misunderstandings**
Their fans: **Declares all out war**
its war timeeeee
ikr
Peace was never an option
How dare she
She started it and we are here to hold her for her responsibility
My 12-year-old who was born with lactose intolerance he wants to thank you for the inclusion and very clear explanation.
He had me send him a link to this video with a time stamp so he can share it with his friends to explain to them why he can’t have milk, yogurt, most cheeses, etc.
Lactose intolerance from birth is very rare and definitely caused more issues in times past than now. I had to keep him on special formula as an infant and once he was old enough it was easy to switch him to lactose-free milk and otherwise to watch his diet and make sure he got enough calcium, fat, and vitamin-D.
Now the hardest part is the lack of cheese, especially since he’s at an age where pizza parties are so common.
Things were undoubtedly harder for my brother, dad, and great uncles who were all born with lactose intolerance.
There’s so many more lactose-free and vegan alternatives for most dairy products that even in my small city they’re mostly available.
One of my cousin’s babies was born lactose intolerant too! So difficult and I imagine it only gets harder when they’re school age, like you said, where you’re not there helping control everything they’re offered. I was visiting my cousin once, and the baby’s older sister is very headstrong. I looked over when they’d gotten unusually quiet and she was trying to feed the baby a milkshake!! I tried to explain to her how she can’t feed the baby without mom around, especially milk, but she just blew me off. Mom didn’t talk to her about it at all 😬 Idk how they all survive in that house lol but I’m glad the baby is okay
Lily A. Yikes!
I was only able to have one kid and I got lucky that one of his interests early on was anatomy and how bodies work (when he was 4, his favorite book was an anatomy book made for 3rd graders, lol). So I was able to explain to him in little kid terms what lactose intolerance is and what foods he can and can’t eat.
He was usually okay with trying new foods with a lactase pill to see how much it helped. But we quickly learned that foods with a lot of milk or cream still make him sick even with a lactase pill or two. So foods like ice cream, milkshakes, or Alfredo sauces are permanently off the menu.
But there’s ways around it. For example, it’s hard to go out for ice cream or milkshakes as a reward for something, but we sometimes go to Starbucks and get strawberry Frappuccinos. If he gets a soy or oat milk one, it’s close to a milkshake.
For birthday parties we often bring a pint of dairy free ice cream for him. Sometimes we bring 2 pints because the other kids are almost always curious and will want some.
For his own birthday party a few times we had snow cones instead of birthday cake. That way we didn’t have to worry about the frosting.
The kids *loved* it and it worked well since he has a friend that’s allergic to wheat. It was the first birthday party she’d been to that she could eat the treats.
I think if a parent is open with their kid about what their condition is and educates them about what they can and can’t eat (and maybe makes them part of that process) early on it’s not as scary. Especially if the child is strong willed.
It was more scary when I was a kid when people were less aware of food allergies and intolerances. These days teachers are a lot more aware and know to watch out for these things.
this video is bad and explain almost nothing about why he can't get the milk .. just find a better video for your specific case. It's much better for your child.
12:20 "legally they have to be fortified" depends on what country you're in. In the uk, some milk alternatives have added calcium, and some don't. Check the packaging to make sure.
No supplement!? There, i may have grown deficient if i werent interested in food science.
some governments seem pro-Natural Selection while others aim for Nanny State.
As with many health related things, the most benefits are in moderation.
Who else went to this video after the food theory video?
A lot of experts are questioning the USDA recommendations on dairy. I don’t necessarily believe they are a 100% accurate source
I grew up next to my local dairy farm, I have fond memories of popping next door and getting a glass bottle of milk for home, and then returning the glass bottle once empty, they would sterilize all the bottles and reuse them. I moved away and that same local dairy delivers milk locally in the glass bottles and they pick up the bottles on the next delivery, they have expanded and now make their own yoghurts and cheese (which we also buy). I do pay more for my milk that if I bought from a shop, but I am supporting a local business and family.
That's a dream come true for me! I wish I could find a local farm to get raw milk, it's much better for you than killing the beneficial bacteria through pasteurization.
7:40 I really appreciate the visual representation here. I struggle a lot with imagining just how much or how big something is when given only a measurement and find myself trying to compare it to something that i actually do know the size of, which doesn't usually work when talking about weights of food. The visual representation helps so much more than just the weight, so thank you again.
Bioavailability of calcium
For example, dairy foods have a bioavailablity of about 30% absorption so if a food label on milk lists 300 mg of calcium per cup, about 100 mg will be absorbed and used by the body.
Seeing all those beans made it clear that the gas from it would be worst than anything a lactose intolerant person can imagine.
Haha. That's so true! I'm literally laughing out loud at that segment. Imagine a kid, mom says "don't drink your milk, here have a Kilo of broccoli". Hahaha
yess same, without the visuals i can't picture it
Okay but what about sesame seeds, tofu, collard greens? All of these have more calcium in much more realistic amounts and Ann didn't even mention them. Her video makes it seem like the 3 options she showed are the highest plant sources of calcium other than fortified foods and they're not. Even if that's what these articles she's reading mentioned, she could have done research on her own to find more realistic sources of plant calcium
Wow your thumbnail looks crazy similar to Dr. Sten Ekberg's video.....
The boom after she places each cabbage lmao
Hi Ann! This is a very helpful video especially for people with lactose intolerance like me. As well as educating people about the industry and nutrition about milk. I’ve been doing research myself to deal with what I have but it’s just overwhelming to read so much info with lots of jargon but the way you explain things is very digestible. Thank you so much! 😊😊😊
And other animals have different amounts of lactose and different caseins, so you can try goat or sheep. Or fermented products, not just cheese, but whey, kefir, ... My sis has good results with goat milk.
@@anezkajandova76 Thanks for that helpful tip, I’d have to check if sheep or goats milk is available in my country though. And hopefully it’s not too expensive either.
@@anezkajandova76 Or just buy lactose free milk, which is widely available these days.
Just drink oat milk
You should try out some different plant mills and see if you have a favourite! There’s a huge range these days, and it’s better for the cows :)
I admire you so much as a teacher and mother and human being in general. Your ability to educate so respectfully and in detail and with so much dedication and without making it boring for even a second, it's just fascinating.
She took some things out of context but go on
Oh god please stfu people like you just make me lose braincells
@@brandomcastor2951 this ^
@@brandomcastor2951 omg get a life
@@nanoglitch6693 Did you watch food theories new video
I watched your video and mat pats recently then looked at your comments, I've watched you for years and never expected you to act the way you have in the comments.
I am a huge fan of Food Theory. I actually learned of your channel as a result of a reaction to this video :). He took your debunk like a champ and fixed things unlike so many others I have seen you react to since then. Great job :)
I know this was a while ago but she responded to another comment in a rather childish way, still insisting he was wrong about eating that much kale, even when it’s turned into a smoothie
Edit: by childish i mean she refused to do more research by going to other sources and refusing being wrong
I'm lactose intolerant and the first (and only) time I tried taking lactase to see if it would help, I wound up in the hospital with an anaphylactic reaction. So I don't even drink lactose free milk because I'm afraid of the added lactase. I also hate soy milk, so I'm very glad for coffee shops starting to carry oat milk so I can enjoy a sugary latte without a horrible stomachache
I have seen soy milk curdle when put into too hot coffee 🤢
@@tatiana4050 I’ve seen oat milk curdle too 🥰
Just a question, since I don't know any people with a (strong) lactose intolerance. I understand that lactose intolerance was that you cannot digest milk sugar (lactose), did you end up with an allergic reaction because you're also allergic to lactose? Or was it something else in the lactase that you took that you reacted to?
@@debayeuxchats5607 the assumption at the hospital was that it was the lactase pills on their own. I took them right before eating pizza and had only taken a single bite before I was violently sick and then broke out in a rash and started having trouble breathing. Eating dairy on its own has unpleasant digestive symptoms for me but nothing life threatening like the lactase.
Theres nothing better than a peaceful day/afternoon with some coffee and bread
Add watching Ann’s new video to the list
*and your perfect Friday is set!*
enjoy your day 😀
that's exactly what i was doing xD
omg i'm literally doing that atm, i was like "what a peaceful day to drink coffee and learn something interesting from ann" XD
Yessss!!!
for the record matpat did say he did not know what brew was
Who could tell a milk video would cause so much petty drama and tomfoolery on the lands of internet?
I like how Ann has genuinely made a valid point from many perspectives on various issues. It feels like a proper discussion.
I think she showed her bias. The EPA in the USA has published numbers on carbon emissions of agriculture. Cattle alone contribute to 1/4 of emissions just from methane alone not accounting for any other emission. Like she just brought up water... I don't think water use is the defining characteristic for pollution.
I still drink milk but it's really no contest as to what is ecologically worse. Animal milk by a landslide is worse for the environment. Everything you read will be biased, especially a TH-camr giving their thoughts on the matter. However you can see just by her data selection it's clear she was trying to craft a specific message.
@@canifold She only talked about water usage as an example since to calculate what's better for the environment you would have to take in a ton of different factors. Gas emission is also one of those factors.
@@canifold She used it as a point of comparisson to show that this information can be affected by the different points we compare them to. For example, I can compare cow's milk and almond milk and say "THIS ALMOND MILK PRODUCED 5 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF EMISSIONS THAT THE COW MILK DID! DO NOT CONSUME ALMOND MILK!". What I don't tell you is that I got my cow milk from a local farmer, who milks the cow himself, transports it by truck and is put in a glass container, and I got my almond milk from Europe, from a big factory that needs a lot of energy and resources to produce it, then they have to transport it by boat and then by truck, on a plastic container. Am I lying then in my statement? No. But is it fair to do that comparisson? You decide.
Except it’s all lies.
@@canifold No, the one showing their bias here is you. Specifically with the erroneous statement that cattle farts = 1/4 of US greenhouse gases. That's the blurb pushed by an ignorant, or idiotic, pundit with their own agenda who lacks reading comprehension skills when they skimmed over the actual study. Agriculture accounts for 10% of ALL US greenhouse gases (My source, directly from epa.gov, 2019 study results).
The study, a dated one I'm sure, you're referring to states that cattle produce 1/4 of all METHANE emissions (a subsection of green house gas emissions). Methane itself only accounts for 10% of US greenhouse gas emissions (same source). 1/4 of 1/10 of greenhouse gases is 1/40th overall. That's 2.5%.
In India most people get milk straight from the dairy farms in milk cans and other steel containers , and also India has lots of small milk farms in almost every little corner of the country so it is more convenient for the environment , consumers and sellers because they don't need all the water , electricity , machinery and stuffs .💙
Indian cows magically consume less water and feed?? WOW
But in India dairy farmers also inject cows with injections to make them produce more milk
I've always wondered about the dairy industry in India because in Hindu cows are very special. Thanks for bit of information. Here in Kentucky I use to cry to my grandpa cause he had a small dairy farm and the milking machinery looked like it hurt the cows. He treated his small group well but at 7, it was loud and scary looking.
@@Shad0wBl0wer You actually believe they meant water as in "water that cows drink"?? LOL
@@Shad0wBl0wer ? water cows drink is a tiny portion of the water that is used by many dairies. but water consumption massively varies according to set up of the dairy as well. from what i understand many Indian cows are kept free range even in cities so there would be less need for the dairy farmer to hose everything down constantly. The cattle also forage and can eat vegetable scraps from household garbage and markets and even newspaper and cardboard that was discarded (and yes, cattle, or rather their gut bacteria, can get nutrition from paper and cardboard) reducing the amount of animal feed necessary. It's a very efficient system, the only real problem is the risk of traffic accidents to the cows and the fact they will leave manure everywhere.
imagine getting debunked on a debunk video
This channel isnt imagining tho =)
Debunking a theory channel and having your research channel debunked by said theory channel.
I think there's a lot of irony in that statement, since it's supposed to be the other way around. lol
This video isn't meant to debunk the food theory video.
I've never even heard of this channel, and came from the food theory video, and actually WATCHED the damn thing, and it's quite clear this video is not meant to debunk anything.
she mentioned him for 3 minutes calm down (and even then she mostly agreed)
It's almost like Ann and Matt are both right for different reasons. Ann is right in some aspects of her video, and Matt is right in parts of his. Neither video is a perfect answer as to why or why not it's beneficial as an adult to continue to drink milk when there are alternative methods out there like Tofu.
But one does insinuate plagiarism for a very common milk trope, so you know . . .
@@OhNoTheFace the plagiarism was just hinted due to the thumbnail. The topic of why Milk is bad also not something totally new because again I made an old comment ASAP when Ann release this that said Kurzgeszat(sorry if I spelt it wrong) had tackle this same issue.
As a nutrician / dietician she went by per serving because, reastically this is what people did anyway when they eat food. How many times an average people actually weight all the food before cooking them? And what about those who don't cook at all and relied on takeout?
Serving might not be perfect measure but again, so does per gram or even per calorie.
I think the problem stem more because easily swayed people could only think in two way. That if one seemed correct, the other must be totally wrong. Not to mention Ann herself made a reputation as a debunker, and people tend to think whoever got name dropped in a critical way, must be in the same legion as Five Minute Craft.
I myself did not consume Matt videos simply because his content about food was not at all relevant for me since we live on a different culture and different side of globe.
@@OhNoTheFace POV: 5 y/o
@@OhNoTheFace “I’ll just ignore all the facts”
@@mosuchii the fanboys are out
Full fat milk is only 2-2.5g saturated fat / 100ml (semi is about 1g / 100ml). As long as you aren't drinking a litre or more a day, the small amount you have in a coffee or tea is hardly worth worrying over. Plus removing the fat also reduces some of the vitamins as well (as they are bonded to the fat). NileRed has a video on what is in milk and in it he explains which are removed (and may have to be added back in).
If your daily intake of saturated fat is only from 100ml of full fat milk, then it should be fine. Recommended intake for saturated fat is 10g a day in Australia pretty sure. It's just that if you drink full cream milk and spread butter on your toast and have some kind of meat in a day, the chances are, you're exceeding the recommended intake. Also I don't think Ann is recommending to remove fat from diet, just saturated fat. Unsaturated fat (olive oil, fish oil etc.) is considered a good source of fat.
@Punkrock Noir milk can't be made without pregnancy
These vitamins are usually added back in low fat milk, there is not a problem in choosing that option.
@@SunsetEnvy actually, it can, but for this, you need to treat the cow with love and respect. They can produce milk by fiscal stimulations
@@kasumia7090 saturated fat isn’t bad for you. False outdated science
This is the type of content we need, thank you for always doing extensive research rather than just click-baity methods to get views.👍🏼
I appreciate that!
Wow
WOW
@@HowToCookThat hahahaha the irony
MatPat's thumbnail was a clear reference to a got milk? ad
I started drinking non-dairy milk after reading how bad milk is. Then I read the nutrition labels. Most are A & D & calcium fortified, but even nut milks have little protein. If you have blood sugar issues, plant milks are a poor substitute for cow milk.
If you take your proteins from milk, you do things wrong. There are tons of healthier protein sources.
I mean you could easily get sugar from other things no?
@@KobeKeats uuh, I think they mean high blood sugar... I think.
@@breadmonkeys Drinking milk does nothing for high blood sugar. It doesn’t lower it.
@@KobeKeats... Exactly, what's your point?
Another thing that never seems to get brought up, though it's more about meat than milk, is not every land in every country is arable. The whole point that animals can eat things people can't really is lost on people. I'm not a scientist, but it strikes me as hilariously naive people seem to assume every plant or crop easily grows everywhere on the planet sometimes when you know they must know better. Tropical jungles don't grow in Japan, people know that, but they seem to forget it when debating what people should be eating.
I always think this too! People complain about cattle taking up land, but beef cattle around here are grazed on rough hilly pasture that could never hold a crop. It takes food (grass) that humans can’t eat and converts it to something that we can. Dairy cattle also eat almond husks and other byproducts of the vegetable industry and then convert that into valuable fertilizer to replenish soil nutrition. But cows = bad gets more views…
Yes! This is one of the most offputting thing for me when it comes to plant based content creators. They are so confident in being environmentally friendly while almost all of their plants and fruits are imported in
While I agree that removing cows/other livestock doesn't mean we can just slap down a crop and call it a day, that land is also valuable to local animal and plant species. The more land we use for our own purposes, the less there is for those creatures and plants that maintain our local ecosystems.
Well, I actually AM an agricultural/animal scientist :) And I agree with you, many people don't have a good understanding of how agriculture as a whole works. I've had plenty of rather shocking discussions with friends who had the wildest imaginations about how the dairy industry or organic agriculture, for example, work.
One thing I would like to add: Yes, it is true that there are many regions on earth that can only grow grassland, no crops. Reasons can be soil conditions, climate, topography. The only way to make these regions productive is grazing animals on them. And that's what people have been doing for centuries. Think about Mongolia, for example. However, when we're talking about the dairy industry, we're not talking about places like Mongolia - we're talking about places like Europe, North America, Australia, for example. In those places the dairy farms mostly keep specialized dairy cattle (mostly Holstein Friesian or Jersey) which have been bred to have very high milk yields (up to 30 to 50 kg milk per day). Those milk yields are aboslutely not possible on pure grass diets. Grass-based feed makes up roughly a third of a dairy cow's ration. They are usually also fed with corn silage, and concentrate feedstuffs such as grain-based products or by-products such as soy meal. Those are obviously all grown on farmland that could also be used to grow human food. In the case of by-products, the land is used for both human and animal food, for example sugar beet: humans get the sugar, animals get the sugar beet pulp and molasses.
So, it is a valid point to say that farm land is used to feed dairy cows. I just don't believe that most people understand the context or the extent of it correctly. Generally speaking, agriculture is a lot more complicated than it's made out to be by some people making claims on the internet. There's a reason why agricultural sciences exist, after all. I get rather annoyed when people who are not skilled in this field think they now need to "educate" people about agriculture, animal husbandry, or nutrition. Another reason to love this channel - Ann actually knows what she's talking about, since she's a dietician and food scientist herself.
@@asteroid152jes Environmental protection and (extensive) agricultural land use do not have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, some ecosystems heavily depend on specific forms of agricultural use, for example heathlands, which need to be grazed by sheep (Heidschnucke) in order to not get overgrown by trees. I know it might sound counterintuitive, but farm animals, especially sheep and goats, but sometimes also cattle and horses, are often crucial elements of effective conservation of nature. That being said, there are of course other ecosystems that are better left alone, like for example the tropical rainforests.
I'm laughing my head off because Dave is going to have to eat all those beans and all that cabbage so it doesn't go to waste :).
I'm laughing because the rest of them is going to have to breathe in the result.
It's gonna be fart city in the Reardon household
Oh don't forget about the Kale! That is going to be one heck of a smoothie! 😂
You can actually cook some very tasty dishes with beans and cabbage.
When I read your comment it was 3am NY time&i laughed out loud beans cabbages&that horrid kale the other four will not be happy(unless I bet she donates to a food bank or when my fav science baker tries out new-there's a line to share 😊
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I like how she breaks down the research about food but I don't she had to call out those other youtubers we are here for the facts
It just leads to more views. It doesn't matter what kind, views are views. And some will actually like the content and subscribe.
That's my guess anyway, since many youtubers do this, and reaction videos.
Interesting fact, de values of the amount of calcium in for example kale and broccoli (arugula had more btw) differ quite a bit on different researches is due to the differences found in the vegetables itself. A broccoli produced on a calcium rich ground will have more calcium per 100 gram in it as a broccoli produced on a piece of ground with a low amount of calcium in the ground. The same goes, yet in lesser extent, for the diet and the race of the cow.
Also the amount of calcium needed per day varies per research. For a male between the 25 and 69 years the Dutch Food advise organization says they need 950 mg per day. Yet if you look in a lot of other countries this varies between the 700 and 1200 mg per day. I even came across an advise for 2500 mg per day. People, never do that. Consuming 2500 mg calcium or more per day will give you a significant higher risk of health issues like kidney stones and calcification of your blood vessels.
@@Psylor3 I saw that advise of 2500 mg calcium per day as well. I guess they forgot to mention it’s the absolute upper limit.
I was thinking the same, cheers 😁
@@Psylor3 that you for you reply and indeed, your right, that’s causing some discussions as well.
But then you have to think about the fact that it’s usually being boiled, so some of the nutrients might escape into the water, which is washed down the drain.
Oh, my gosh! When you brought the huge plate of kale out my jaw just dropped! I mean, I figured it was going to be harder to get the calcium in the vegs, but it was a great humorous moment!
Edit to say: thanks for all the research and knowledge your bring to your unbiased table! We love you Ann!
I love kale stew (especially with potatoes in it) but even that is too much kale for me...
Tap water has enough calcium in many countries. So it’s not a problem for many of us
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@@bitny4916 I guess you mean hard water? I never heard about tap water being fortified with calcium.
People living in places with soft water (i.e. water with low mineral content) need calcium-rich food (plant-base or not) or supplement though.
On the other hand, once it's cooked it's onlya hand full.
Thanks for all this information! I’m all set in what milk works best for me but there are others that are still trying to decide and I hope they appreciate all the hard work and research you put into this video!
Good video, ma’am. I appreciate your in-depth analysis
Thanks soooo much Ann for doing a video on milk, that has helped clear up so many of the myths out there! Have a great weekend and hope your family are well.
Thank you so much discussing this in a clear and unbiased way and thank you for talking about the difference between allergies and intolerance's. I was allergic to milk protein as a baby and thus lived on soy milk as a kid, then I grew out of the allergy at age 9. Trying things like cheese and ice cream was a revelation! I have an anaphylactic allergy to all nuts and nut products which was a problem when at 19 I became lactose intolerant because the popularity and prevalence of nut-milks has been on the rise the last decade plus and now they're everywhere. I've literally never had a fancy coffee drink because Starbucks, Tim Horton's etc aren't clean or careful with their equipment and everything is contaminated.
Many lactose-intolerant people here recommend taking lactase tablet/pill. Otherwise you could try finding the amount of milk that could still be comfortably consumed; lactose intolerance isn't an all-or-nothing condition therefore some people could still consume a bit of milk products without upsetting their stomach.
*Edit:* lactase could cause allergic reaction so if you have the history of milk allergy, you might want to consult your doctor before taking lactase tabs.
@@OrdinaryEXP I drink lactose free milk and use lactase tablets as needed for foods with dairy in them. The main point I was making in my comment is that a peanut/tree nut allergy is the most common food allergy in the world but so many businesses replace dairy with a nut milk. It's a huge problem for a lot of people and Ann is first time I've heard anyone mention it.
I’m sorry that these widespread coffee places are not careful with their equipment. Allergies/Intolerances are terrible to work with, and it would be nice if companies would make things easier.
@@OrdinaryEXP Some of those dairy products people can still eat even if they're lactose intolerant are because there's very little lactose in them; the lactose feeds the cultures that cause the fermentation process in things like yogurts, hard aged cheeses, & -to some degree- kefir making them naturally more similar to the lactose-free products, though obviously there's going to be variance in just how much lactose is left over from batch to batch with things things because nature isn't precisely repeatable
It's also worth noting that - if you take it slow - eating yogurt with live cultures can reduce the severity of your lactose intolerance as it helps (re)populate your gut bacteria with those good good lactobacillus (which is why you might hear about someone being told to eat probiotic yogurt after a round of strong antibiotics so they won't *become* lactose intolerant, since antibiotics can't discriminate helpful bacteria from harmful)
I have a very similar problem with smoothies due to fruit & veg allergies I cannot go out to a smoothie store and get a smoothie with my friends. So what I have found is when I make it at home I can pick and choose my fruits & veg that I am not allergic to. So maybe you could try things like coconut milk which is actually not a nut or you could possibly even try goats milk. I have a friend whom is lactose anaphylactic BUT she can drink milk from goats. So you may want to get allergy tested for alternative types of “milk” / “nut” products. Also I make my own lattes at home because I prefer a certain type of milk product in my drink as well, that they do not carry at Starbucks( it’s also a lot less expensive).
Who uses serving sizes as an accurate unit of measurement. They make that up on their own. It’s not a standard unit of measurement.
its decided by the FDA or other national food scientist organizations, they dont just make up a random amount they think u should eat, its how much is healthy or proportional to your daily reccomended intake
A downside to some plant foods is that they contain naturally occurring plant substances, sometimes referred to as “anti-nutrients.” Examples of anti-nutrients are oxalates and phytates that bind to calcium and decrease its bioavailablity. Spinach contains the most calcium of all the leafy greens at 260 mg of calcium per 1 cup cooked, but it is also high in oxalates, lowering the bioavailability so that only 5% or about 13 mg of calcium can be used by the body. The takeaway message is not to avoid spinach, which contains other valuable nutrients, but not to rely on spinach as a significant source of calcium since most of it will not be absorbed by the body. -Harvard University T.H. School of Public Health
I’m dairy intolerant (lactose isn’t the only thing that can affect you, some people have an intolerance to all parts of dairy) so I don’t have a choice even if I wanted to drink regular milk, but it’s cool to know the pros and cons from someone who is actually being realistic compared to just saying, “oh this food has more calcium than milk!” Or “just stop having milk or cream in your coffee!” You actually show us proper comparisons and don’t just trust the first line that google says.
Same, I was intolerant to the proteins in milk as a baby to the point that I would quite literally die if I drank it. My parents found out because I kept having blood in my diapers. Eventually my body became more able to process it. When I was younger I couldn’t drink 2 cups without severe stomach issues, and even 2 was pushing it. Now I don’t actually know what the limit is, but I think it’s more than two now.
I was born premature but I also have cerebral palsy (abnormal brain development and / or brain damage before/during birth) and I have no idea which if any of those caused it.
I’m also tannin intolerant (I realised it was tannin specifically because I was dying paper with earl grey tea and I broke out in hives - a reaction I’ve only had previously with strawberries. Lo and behold, tannin, which also explained why bananas make me itchy as they have a bit of tannin).
I don’t know how I managed to get on this tangent, but TL;DR, I am also intolerant of “other milk ingredients,” specifically the proteins
Me too. I'm also intolerant to eggs, so I always just say I'm vegan because most people know then what I have to avoid. I wasn't born early and have no developmental disorders (to my knowledge), so I don't think that that is a factor. We were just unlucky I think. Do you guys get jealous of people too that can just eat whatever they want without any consequences (besides getting fat)?
I was told as a child that I'm lactose intolerant but lactose free products and products low in lactose still cause same problems so I guess I could actually just be dairy intolerant. I get stomach aches, bloating, nausea and overproduction of mucus. But then again the doctor said I might have IBS but I'm 22 so I have no idea 😂😂😂
Matpat did a video responding to this one, and he showed all of his research and where he got these conclusions. He also pointed out that the amount of kale shown can be condensed down into a glass the size of the glass of milk. The kale show has the largest part of it showing, the leaf. The other side of that plate would most likely look a lot less impressive comparatively. Plus the majority of the volume that you see is gaps, aka air. What gives kale the volume you see is the leaf, it holds its shape well when raw. If you where to reduce it in a broth, the amount becomes a lot less impressive.
Thanks so much for delving into this topic! As an environmentalist, I feel like such a buzzkill when talking about the plant vs. animal milk environmental impacts because it IS so complicated and there are so many factors that it's very difficult to quantify. The biggest thing we can do is push for more sustainable practices on both sides of the field--asking for better policies regarding recycling and waste, and even cooperating with other industries to minimize waste as much as possible. One industry's waste CAN be another industry's treasure.
Can you tell me an example of that last sentence? I'm genuinely curious
@@frostincubus4045 In the video Ann mentions how the husks of many of the plants used to produce plant milk are used afterward as feed for animals. Another example would be organic produce using manure from the meat and dairy industry.
Less food waste in general would go at least some way to making agriculture more environmentally friendly. Even that is a complex issue, though, with the way the grocery industry works.
@@AnxiousGary This part really surprised me, because I never saw anyone mentioning that the husks of the plants are tecnically wasted material. Everytime I see this debate is always pointing for the worst parts of the dairy made by cow and never explaining that the plant base milk also have a different set of problems too. It's always bias.
@@barbaradesigns1774 Ann's biased too. You're biased. We're all biased.
You recommended low fat milk due to lower saturated fat, but have you considered that vitamin K2 is contained in dairy fat, and is a necessary vitamin for ‘directing’ calcium in your body? So if you have a lot of calcium, but not enough K2, calcium won’t stay in the bones and instead will go where you don’t want it. I would think drinking whole milk would be the best choice if you want the health benefits of calcium.
I wonder if the old delivery of milk in bottles wasn't a better idea, as cleaning something seems to use less energy than braking something down to remake it.
Another brilliant video! I recently had to switch to oat milk while breastfeeding temporarily (baby was getting awful diarrhoea and gas so I removed dairy from my diet under advisement from the paediatrician for a few months - not an allergy for baby thankfully, his gut just wasn't matured enough to be able to handle the milk protein which apparently gets into the breastmilk) and I'm glad that I was still getting plenty of calcium from my oat milk and all the rest of it. I've gone back to cows milk now that baby is coping with dairy protein, simply because I found the milk alternatives tasted very sweet, almost like cereal milk - which was fine when I was just putting it in tea but not when I had actual cereal with it! But I'm glad that there were alternatives. Everyone should be able to make their own choices about what they consume.
You can get unsweetened milk alternatives.
@@SquirrelNutkins Even the unsweetened were too sweet for me.
When my son was a baby, I had to switch him to goat milk formula cause the doctor thought that perhaps his throwing up was because of the cow's milk intolerance. Turned out to be pyloric stenosis which was fixed via surgery and we switched back to cow's milk formula (thank god for that cause the goat milk one smelt real bad)
Not sure where you are, but when I ordered hot drinks with soya milk when visiting the US, it was so sweet - then they showed me the carton and it said unsweetened! Never had that problem in Europe.
@@teapotgamer64 cow’s milk has far more sugar (in the form of lactose) per serving than, for example, unsweetened almond milk, so I suspect that what you were tasting as “sweetness” was simply the different taste of the plant milk compared to cows milk.
THANK YOU for talking about Oxalate! I have a green iguana and a major, major problem for them is how many leafy green vegetables contain oxalic acid (spinach, another commonly recommended milk substitute for calcium) is particularly bad. reptiles that are fed foods high in oxalates develop Metabolic Bone Disease essentially because they become calcium deficient. It's basically rickets and osteoporosis, and it is a permanent condition once they get it. My iguana has severe MBD that he developed due to an inappropriate diet in a previous home. That's right, spinach and other "high calcium" veggies can give them calcium deficiency. It's something that most people are not aware of. As a reptile owner i tend to feed a lot of collard and mustard greens and kale (kale is fine for iguanas but should not be fed to tortoises due to the goiterians (sp?))
also Environmental Impact... one of the big problems facing bees in the US is colony collapse disorder, and a major factor in that is the fact that the majority of commercial beehives in the US are shipped to California every year to pollinate the almond orchards. this does three things, 1 it stresses the bees out making them more susceptible to disease, and 2, mingles bees from different regions in the US together, making it easier to transmit disease, and 3 when the bees return to their home region they then transmit the diseases they picked up to native bee species, feral honey bees, and hobbyist hives, spreading the colony collapse disorder. It is truly astonishing to me that Almond products are considered "vegan" considering the level of harm the almond industry does to bees in the US. Honey is a byproduct of the bee industry, the main product is the pollination of crops.
I didn't know about the bee issue. Thank you for posting 🙂
Oxalates are also a big concern for rabbit owners, since they can develop similar problems.
Wait I didn't know, that the US did that bee shipping thing... How did they ever come up with something so incredibly bad.
Another problem in insecticide. You would think that farmers, who rent bees to pollinise their crops, would stop spraying pesticide well enough in advance not to harm he bees, but nope.
Many "vegans" don't really care about animals and the environment, they just want to feel holier than thou
Eating all that kale is unrealistic, but couldn't you juice it up in a blender to get that sweet calcium 🤔🤔
But still It's not practical and budget friendly for everyone. Like in many countries kale is not that easily available so people switching to kale would not the that practical for everywhere in the world and even after importing them this would be not budget friendly for everyone. So milk is widely available and budget friendly almost everywhere and for everyone.
@@chintusharma4811 true not everyone gets to enjoy certain things due to scarcity and inflation of prices. Milk is expensive where I live and I am lactose intolerant so not an option for me personally. In my climate I can grow my own Kale which saves on costs. In the video I found it a little strange that she used a blender to create milk from nuts, but didn't demonstrate juicing the large amount of Kale, which is a reasonable option for many people. Juicing doesn't have to be one specific vegetable, you could add some Kale along with cheaper options and still make a delicious, nutritious drink 😎
It will still be more than one glass. Probably at least 5 times more
@@W4iteFlamemaybe so, but at least it's a better option than eating all the Kale.
@@jriver8849 hm...maybe. I don't mind either way
I came back to your channel after food theory mentioned you! Very curious how the bioavailability angle was different between your videos but it's no question that you both research a lot.
Food theory incorrectly said that neither of us looked at bioavailability. But this video does look at bioavailability I just didn't show the maths on screen - rewatch the beans part where the amount actually needed increases due to less bioavailability. This calculation looks at the of amount of calcium you absorb from 1 glass of milk (bioavailable calcium) compared to the amount of calcium you absorb from the beans. And shows you how much beans you'd need to eat to get the same amount as in 1 glass of milk. A lot.
@@HowToCookThat I think the reason is thT you didn't talk or mention the word Bioavailability.
@@HowToCookThat he very explicitly did not say that neither of you didn't consider it, just that it wasn't explicitly discussed
@@HowToCookThat You seem to have a problem of jumping to conclusions. Saying that he incorrectly stated that neither of you looked at bioavailability is an incorrect conclusion drawn from his actual words of "Bioavailability wasn't explicitly discussed". Those jumping to incorrect conclusions caused you to paint his entire video as misinformation, whether it was intentional or not, and are even causing you to misrepresent his response. You need to check that if it's unintentional.
@@HowToCookThat you also left out the parts where he got correct, making him look bad and only disagreed with 1 part
This is exactly the type of content we need more of on the internet. Unbiased, informative. Not "you must or must not do this or that because I say so" Almost nothing in life is so black an white as "this specific thing is healthy and this other thing isn't" The answer is always somewhere in between and it always depends.
I strongly dislike healthy products fear mongering. What so very few people are willing to do is a balanced side by side comparison like this. Inform us in comprehensible understandable ways the benefits of consequences of either side and allow us the option to make an informed decision for ourselves what will work best for us.
Ann, you have always chosen the approach to inform us, give us the tools to make our own decisions, it is always appreciated. I appreciate the amount of research you always do in all of your videos and I can for 100% certain say that your videos do make an impact.
I think you really want it to be not be clear that milk is unhealthy because it benefits you. I can't imagine how you got milk is healthy or somewhat okay from this video. No one is eating 250g of kale. No one is saying kids should eat it either. They are saying if you eat a whole food plant based diet that has lots of variety of beans/lentils, nuts, seeds, greens, fruit you are EASILY meeting your calcium requirements and will have the best health outcomes. This is the scientific consensus. So, why consume bovine mammary secretions? We cannot have an unbiased discussion about food and health where a product that isn't even human food is an option cause it is not food.
@@Andrew-hx9tz are you copyand pasting this everywhere? Did you watch the video?
@@Andrew-hx9tz lol
@@Andrew-hx9tz This is true technically, but if you eat a whole food plant based diet (so I'm assuming no processed food?), your blood cells will become malformed and your nerves will slowly degrade, because there is not a single plant based source of vitamin b12.
@@Andrew-hx9tz sounds like soy rage to me.
Anyways she did amazing on the video because I love my dairy. I don't care much for plant based milks. I'll have it time to time but nothing like milk to me and my family. I did come from being a vegetarian to eating meat. I do feel better then when I was on that diet
The amount of work and effort Anne puts into her videos is out of this world. Lets all show her some love and support and share these videos to friends and family
She's awesome mann, she never misses one shot, every video she does she puts so much work and effort it's actually impossible to say it's anything but excellent. Even if she makes a big mistake one day, honestly, I wouldn't mind... She has hit so many shots that she deserves to miss hahah
ANNE U NEED TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH SO I CAN RECOMMEND U TO MY GRANDCHILDREN 😂❤❤
That's so right!! Such a smart lady! ❤
She is amazing! Hope her family loves salads
She's a goddess of truth 💜 there's no measuring how much I've learned from her and been entertained every minute.
She’s got almost 5 million followers, she’s doing fine, quit acting like she’s struggling and at less than 50k subs or something.
Dietician got rekt by a nerd who did extensive research about calcium.
I'd expected you to talk more about oat milk. This might be a different issue in Australia since I don't have any idea what kinds of crops are easy to cultivate there, but I live in central Europe and there's a significant if not vast difference in the environmental impact of oat milk versus other milk alternatives or cow milk. It takes, by far, the least water and grows locally. Soy plantation has recently been expanded to European soil which is obviously great but generally, soy and almond milk still have much longer transportation routes. Compared to cow milk, you're probably right that the environmental impact will differ from dairy to dairy and from company to company, but oat milk really does an impressive job there compared to all the other options you talked about.
I think there are some aspects usually forgotten when it comes to dairy milk VS plant based milk and its environmental impact.
For one cows are often fed plant waste, we don't use, which would otherwise end up on the compost, where it would degrade and release CO2 and methane. If those things are fed to animals of course these gases get released as well ("cow farts ruin the climate" etc) but we also gain something from it in turn (milk, meat etc). This also applies to oat milk as we don't use the entire plant for the milk. If we would stop using cow milk the surface area we would need for fields to give us the same amount of oat milk, would be much larger than surface area of fields we have now to sustain us with cow milk. So a mixed system of plant based and animal based food with the plant waste going to the animals and the animals waste going to the plants is actually most sustainable.
And also the impact on nature of field vs pastures is important: organic pastures have a signifacntly increased biodiversity, which leads to healthier natural areas surrounding it, while all fields (organic, plants native to this land etc) have a much worse biodiversity and damage natural systems close to them more. Of course mass produced modern animal farms are even worse in that regard, cause nothing grows there.
Overall a mixed system with animal based and plant based food production, which are intertwined and less wasteful (using every cut of meat, no throwing away of misshapen fruits, more effective watering with less evaporation, etc) more local and also more diverse (old sorts of vegetable and breeds of animals) agriculture would be the best environmentally. So though oat is much better than soy, it still isn't the ultimate answer as the true problem lies in the system and the consumers wish for cheap, easily available food
Similarly, I live in the SW US and almond farming is a massive contributing factor to water consumption and drought in the area. Trees take a lot of water; water (from the Colorado river) that is divided between 40 million people in the US and Mexico and needs to be conserved (as this area is a desert and water is scarce). California produces 80% of the world's almonds, using a massive portion of what water is available to us. So yes. I am Very anti-almond even if it is technically grown "locally". (And this isn't even due to the fact that I'm allergic to almonds.)
Oat milk is also the yummiest cows milk substitute
Not sure what you're getting at but I'm sure oat milk can be made in adundance all over the globe since they usually use the most common types of grains such as barley or wheat. I live in Persia and we got them here, just recently though and as a response to the growing demands of vegans and vegetarians and those who cannot have animal-based products due to their lives being in danger who refuse to consume the milk stolen from animals and as a result of severe animal abuse the animals get put through for that milk that they lie about being safe for humans. An animal's milk is only and ONLY for their own little babies. Not us. Messing with that system includes a nightmarish level of animal abuse worldwide. Pretty sure in Australia too, they should be able to very easily make oat milk.
@@tobe3940::A wild vegan appears on its high horse, spreading disinformation and judgment on all who think differently::
P.S. Oat water (not milk) is disgusting Also, if you use barley or wheat, it's not Oat water, and it's not gluten-free. I can't eat that many carbs, I need more protein and fat. I changed to Oat "milk" for my coffee, since my body is lactose ambivalent. I managed it for a few weeks until I couldn't even make myself swallow it, no matter the brand or if it was organic or inorganic. You can have the oat beverage; I'll take the tiny amount of actual milk from the cow.
But go ahead and claim the moral high ground while spreading rumors and being incredibly angry, arrogant, and judgmental. Continue to alienate people who might have agreed with you. This is why veganism will never be popular - it's too much of a pseudo-religious cult. Enjoy your brainwashing; it came from upper-middle-class Westerners who can buy whatever they like and look down on those who can't.
I always get so excited when I see Ann's posted a new video, and I particularly enjoy the more scientific ones.
Thank you so much for that incredible comparison. I completely agree with you about the fact that it is such a complex (and polarised) issue, that finding which milk is "best" based on its environmental impact is an impossible task and we can only look at it as personal preference. I think that is the truth for all of the vegan or meat diet debate
When I first went vegan 10 years ago, I thought it was a simple decision to immediately lessen my environmental impact, I thought it was easy "don't eat animal products and you can do no harm," but I have been thinking more critically about it for the past few years and done more unbiased research. I came the conclusion there is no perfect or easy option, and instead I just have to pick the option which I think is least harmful and best for me. At the end of the day though, my sister nearly died of anorexia, so I don't believe in making people feel ashamed of the food they eat.
In a lot of ways, as much as we as indivuduals try to lessen their impact on the environemnt, its the big businesses that are really doing the most harm. The way you are doing it is probably the best way to do it, although I am not vegan I know once I get my own place and money I'm going to try to get a lot of my meat and fruits and veggies from the local farms or attempt to grow my preferred fruits. It won't solve everything, but it makes you feel good and that's a good thing. I hope your sister is going better now too.
At the end of the day, I'm still not convinced that food is what makes the greatest environmental impact. My home country is known for its beef. Beef there is cheaper than chicken. We're also a poor nation therefore electricity is iffy on a good day.
Despite the fact that there are people there who literally eat beef for every meal, and that we don't even kill all the cows because having a large flock of strong cows is seen as a point of cultural pride, we still produce about 1/4 of the greenhouse gasses PER CAPITA that the UK does. This is including the fact that most people I know drive cars everywhere (cars and gas are cheap-ish) because public transport sucks.
The difference?
People in the UK use a lot more electricity... I know this as an international student.
@@noelstar1456 it's quite well-established that agriculture is a major source of emissions, particularly in developing countries where sometime more than half of all emissions are due to agriculture. The real issue is that we can't cut back on agriculture the same way we can cut back on flights, or powering Christmas lights, which is why agriculture has a relatively bigger share in countries where consumption is lower. You can have a massive impact on agricultural emissions though, which is why it's worth having this discussion. For cows specifically, some studies show you can reduce emissions by around 2/5 if I remember correctly just by changing the way you cultivate the land the animals are on - and since cows are the single largest source of agricultural emissions, that matters a lot.
Sending all my love towards you and your sister ❤ as someone who's had issues with food/eating since I was like 15, I absolutely support that food choices should never be shamed. Educating people on what their food choices are causing... well, that's okay as long as it isn't uncalled for I believe. But don't judge others for their process.
Eg, I eat almost no animal products, except honey (I know the beekeeper and he's always willing to answer any questions) and eggs that I get from a friend who regularly takes in chicken that otherwise would be slaughtered. Yet I've had another vegan call me out for being selfish and an abuser and what not. They made me so upset, I didn't eat for 5 days. Which is most likely not what they intended. What I'm trying to say, I believe most people are trying as best they can, offering a helping hand to improve food choices is awesome but being rude about it won't get anyone in a better place.
@Lofty Radish Never trust an ex vegan. You should be ashamed of yourself, using a loved one's tragic near death experience to justify violence against other sentient beings. Gross.
Just a note: if you want to add more calcium to your diet, a superb food to eat is sesame or tahini.
That was amazing. thanks.
It's a good point to make that cows can eat things we cannot and that's why we initially used them for food AND it's also important to note that they actually primarily eat soy and corn. We primarily produce those crops exclusively for cow feed. These days, to raise cows means tapping into edible human food resources, and not this eco-friendly idea that they just recycle our scraps.
came here to say this!
Not all cows... (Sorry, had to :-))
Good point, but this varies quite a bit around the globe. That is part of why the environmental impacts are so hard to assess.
To give more context: ~80% of all soy and ~70% of world crops go to animal feed (primarily cows) according to Vox. It's the primary driver of Amazon deforestation.
There's also the part that commercial crops companies are throwing away perfectly good food away only because it doesn't look perfect.
That waste doesn't go into animals as it should.
Agreed, one thing about the animal vs plant based milk argument is the cows have to eat plants to make the milk, and plants just need to be plants XD
Some places that actually feed waste products from our food and products to cows would be better then growing new plants just to make milk, but the USA is not that place. Plants also don't make methane, which cows do, and methane is a very potent greenhouse gas.
Anne, you're amazing. People make a lot of claims without much evidence. It is refreshing to see someone actually do the hard work of figuring out the details like you do.
There wasn’t much evidence in this video. At best it was a glancing summary of some of the issues.
Everything she said is a LIE.
@@k8lynmae good to know your iq is lower than a sunfish
*Current evidence disproves almost everything she shared in this vid! Pay attention to news OUTSIDE of YT personalities & educate yourself. Skim/reduced fat milk spikes your insulin levels... type 2 diabetes? here you go... another victim of a 50 year old smear campaign! FAT ISNT MAKING YOU FAT! IT ISNT CAUSING INFLAMMATION. IT DOESNT SPIKE YOUR INSULIN LEVELS OR CHOLESTEROL LEVELS & set you up for pre-diabetes/type 2! IT'S 2022... EDUCATE YOURSELVES! TIMES HAVE CHANGED!*
@@kazmagnus7858 Hey! Sunfish don't deserve to be compared with people like that! :(
Can you do one of these on oils and fats! A lot of "healthy recipes" use coconut oil and I've always wondered how that stacks up
Whether you consider coconut oil healthy or not depends on whether you are in the "saturated fats are the devil" or the "saturated fats are good for you" school of thought. Which school of thought is correct is still under debate.
that's actually not a lot of kale if you make them into kale chips! i hated eating anything from the ground as a kid except for kale chips. we would have to get enormous bags because they shrink so much.
I love kale chips!
Lactose intolerant here:, Hempseed milk was the best tasting milk alternative I've found so far. Same sweetness level as milk without any weird tastes so it worked well in cereal and drinks. It's super hard to find and I think the sole manufacturer went out of business in my country.
Oat milk is the runner up but not nearly as good. Soy and almond are usually quite bad or have more sugar than a bottle of coke!
What about lactose free and lactase infused milk?
now they have lactose free milk... it's just putting the enzymes into the milk and there you goooooo
@@scarlett285 that's the same thing, they just call it lactose free for the masses. They don't actually "remove" the lactose. They just put the nezyme in
@@Xia-hu is it sweeter then? It has enzymes right?
@@DD-kc6hg it tastes a little sweeter.
This is brilliant. I will recommend it to my patients to watch. I don’t know what it’s like in Australia but in the UK we are having a resurgence of rickets in children (kids don’t play outside much anymore and the diets aren’t brilliant) and I think lack of parent education and support is really contributing to this. It’s very hard to educate and entertain at the same time.
cant see anything on rickets in Australia increasing but you dont have to be outside as long in Australia to get enough vitamin D compared to the uk, especially in summer or all year round if your up north. in summer we usually have uv indexes in the extreme ranges for more southern areas and all year round for northern areas
i have seen talk on an increase in vitamin D deficiencies in adults and some speculation that some of the big campaign on skin cancer prevention might be contributing to this as well as more people working in offices
I have been told by my health professionals not to put sunscreen on before going into the sun but 20 mins after because I am chronically vit D deficient
@@felicitygee381 That's weird. For those with such severe problems, they just get prescribed supplements in my experience, since that tiny bit of sun is not going to do anything beyond increasing skin cancer risk for people that have such a major vitamin D issue
Interesting to know about the rickets resurgence. I’ve got a 6 month old so I want to get him set up right with a balanced diet from the point of weaning but both me and him take vitamin d supplements
@@raerohan4241 there are sweet spots of getting your vitamin D before you start getting sun damage it depends on how much melanin you have and how strong the uvs are
Why you gotta do my boy food theory like that, I get the arguing you both got some really good points about food nutrition but bashing thumbnails cmon. How many different thing can you come up with for calcium in milk and bone strength.
never knew there was a milk fight lol
Excellent commentary, Ann. Thank you. In British Columbia, we now have to recycle all of our milk containers both plastic and the paper waxed cartons. We have extensive recycling programs in my province. Also in Canada there's no antibiotics and no growth hormone in our cow's milk and dairy products. I'm very grateful for that. I've been drinking cow's milk for over 50 years. For me, it's a necessity. I have two digestive diseases, Malabsorption Syndrome and EPI. I'm deficient in most nutrients, particularly Phosphorus, even though I eat four servings of dairy a day and take supplements both prescription and over the counter. Plants are much more difficult for me to digest and absorb the nutrients from them because of my diseases and because the amount that you have to consume as you pointed out in your video. Bioavailability is a key factor not just for me but for everybody. Thanks again. 💜✌️
If I may ask, how do you get aroud that? Juicing?
@@mugglesarecooltoo I have to take prescription strength digestive enzymes before every meal and snack. They are pigs' pancreases made into capsules. And to answer your question, I don't juice because I feel there's too much nutrients lost, when you don't eat the outside of the vegetables and fruit as well as lack of fiber. I just eat what I can and hope for the best. I also take a lot of Imodium everyday to help with the malabsorption. It helps slow down my digestive tract. Thanks for asking.
I love seeing your videos pop up every second friday it just makes my week, hope you and everyone is doing great 🤍
thanks Lucy
I will admit that I came from the food theory channel, but he never told anyone to come harres this creator and some people have been saying that or that since he has more subs he will send kids here to harass her but you would be wrong. She said some valid points but mat pat tried to correct her. I wasn't gonna say anything just to read the comments but it makes me frustrated seeing that people are saying mat pat tried to attack her he didn't.
That's true, I came here from MatPat's video too because I was curious about the reaction other viewers would have, but regardless any channel with a million+ subscribers is going to have a more vocal sub-community.
Besides MatPat can't control how each of his subscribers act, he merely posted a video in response to criticism about his work, which was perfectly justified
@@Dylan-ln6qt yeah he has an awsome community like u an me and he is mature and not harass people
even tho he didn't meant to harrass her. by making a respond video to defend his 30 second footage on her 20 minutes video is a bit much, i think..😅
he could've just easily post a comment on this video.
@@enesjei oml 😂😂😂😂
8:29 im sorry Mrs Reardon I am a broccoli FANATIC and I can def eat that much broccoli Lolmao… ok, sorry for interrupting, continue… I LOVE YOU ANN! 🥰
same lol, the only problem for me is that they are expensive where i live
As a person who has experience working on a dairy farm, I really appreciate the unbiased reporting. I tried watching one of those anti-dairy videos and the amount of misinformation was painful. I did laugh at that clip from that documentary claiming that if everybody asked for milk alternatives in their coffee it would make all the bad things in the dairy industry just disappear like magic.
That clip sounded so tonedeaf lmfao. You're suddenly not immoral for ordering almond milk instead? Just the fact that they based morals on simple decisions sounds like guilt-tripping, and whether or not it was intentional, it's really not good advice or persuasion for people to buy more non-dairy milk, simply for the fact that it's a lot more complicated than just ordering at Starbucks.
I also liked the fact that Anne mentioned how useful and convenient cow's milk is, it's a faster way of obtaining calcium than having to eat such a huge amount of vegetables per serving, and it's a lot cheaper than non-dairy milk. People who are against dairy often assume that most people who consume dairy have the means to afford better alternatives, when it's more than likely common people that are trying to save some money and just want to be as healthy as they can.
@@user-wn3wv5bx5e there’s a lot of calcium in water, so it’s not a problem for most of us.
But if you don’t want calves be killed for you, don’t drink milk. This isn’t guilt tripping, it’s just reality
@@bitny4916 If you want to save cows, lower the prices of nut milk and plant-based meals. The thing is, the highest consumers of meat, especially cow meat, isn't even the US - It's often China and poorer/overpopulated Asian countries that prefer to eat meat and often torture their animals more in its industries, speaking from an Asian myself. Funny how you think that just choosing almond milk over cow's milk would save a cow, it just means they'll set the milk aside till another majority will prefer that due to financial and general convenience.
If you want plants to rival the meat industry, then appease more people in a capitalistic campaign, because most societies run under a capitalistic market and they're all trying their best to adjust in benefit of themselves. Telling a few people to do just one decision in order to save a cow each is a fallacy, they will still milk the cows as much as they can as the milk will most likely be ordered somewhere else across the world.
@@bitny4916 Milk is a lot more efficient and calcium-rich than water, and water from a tap water has significantly less calcium. There's a literal 120 mg difference. And while drinking water often is ideal, again, it's less convenient than just having to drink one glass of milk per day, especially in places where water is scarce.
@@bitny4916 You should watch the video you're commenting on instead of making points the video refuted and making yourself look foolish.
Your channel is so great, it really feels like this is one of the only places I can go to get unbiased and comprehensive info about food health, including even what is happening at the molecular level. Food and health is such a touchy topic, and it feels like it's hard to get nuanced and unbiased information. Thank you for covering these topics.
everything in the video is fine, but it really kinda irks me that there was the low blow of trying to accuse food theory of plagiarizing a video, i think that should really be addressed
I doubt her intentions were to degrade the food theorist team, she just said "which is very very similar in the look of the thumbnail"
@@releasethealbum6190 and content as well. the fact that she even brought it up was for a reason no doubt, not just a "woah, look, similar looking thumbnails". she was definitey basing it off of being plagarized, whether she decided to make it seem like a question or not, she definitely came off that way. theres a difference between explaining and accusing is vastly different, and it wasnt needed
i wonder where the "plagiarized" word came from? can you put a time stamp? cause she never said that on this video. or am i missing something?
@@enesjei the word plagiarized comes from the meaning "the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own". a time stamp for where in the video they were insinuating plagiarism is at 0:32 into the video. and the word was never said, as you don't need to say a word to pass along the meaning, which can be inferred by the fact that it was the only video she mentioned about having similar content and thumbnail rather than the others she posted. if you remove the section immediately after comparing the video to Brew's, there are no issues, meaning she likely intentionally put that in.
hope that helped clear some stuff up!
Food theory just absolutely dunked on you 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shhh, be nice. I mean they did, but be nice about it. Her people are just being outright nasty to us.
@@liamlowenthal8476 ikr