Very specific review, I think a lot of it could be summed down to the fact of induction. This device Is powered with all powered USB ports. For your situation and applications I would say a non powered USB C bus is the better solution. The electrical grounding and power equalization of MacBook Pro laptops has never been the greatest. And without a properly ground isolated breakaway dock of any kind - you will always tend to have frequency kickback into the power channel.
Did you find a good alternative? EDIT: Nevermind, I saw your review for the Startech. Whilst I really like the look and sound of the Startech, I need to run a Samsung T7 with my Macbook M1 Pro, so it seems like my best choice is the Caldigit. Unfortunate really as I know that your concerns with the Caldigit are likely to bother me too. Had it not been for the lack of gen 2 on the Startech it would have been a no brainer for me.
Thank you for your honest video. I cannot understand the various comments that you are nitpicking. There are many docs on the market, and a lot of them are rel shit. I am now researching for several days just to buy a bloody doc! It should not have to be such an arduous task. CalDigit TS3 is asking for a premium price. I saw a disassembly and it is indeed well build and appear not to use cheap components. However you are totally right to have the expectations you have. It's one thing to be able to say "hey, don't complain about audio issues on your $30 dock". It's another on a $300 dock. The point with devices not powering down is also a huge issue. I mean come on, so much effort went into this dock...and the last 10% botched/missing is killing it. With things like TB 3 you'd expect there is plenty of signals going back and forth that the dock could tell the devices to power down. All in all, very honest review. Quite apart from the idiotic, mindless "here's your top 5 docs for 2021" where all they say it looks shiny and has so many ports. I can see that from description on an online store. I am also terribly disappointed. I spend so much time researching this and this was going to be the dock I was going to order. Now I get to restart my research again....to find the perfect dock for relatively decent price and for it to do what honestly docks should do seems an impossibly endevor... Don't be disappointed by the ones saying you're nit picking. If they bought a Porshe they would also nitpick if their car would have tires vibrating at 120 km/h and would not tell you "well just drive slower". If I bought a Porsche, I expect flawless execution! Otherwise I could buy Toyota Tercel... Cheers and keep them reviews coming!
Hello friend. Have found a good substitution to caldigit? I am looking for the HYPER HyperDrive GEN2 16-in-1 Thunderbolt 3 dock, same price range... Thanks for your review, help a lot!
Its a pleasure listening to someone who can articulate their points efficiently. Im currently trying to get my brand new OWC TB 3 to connect to my G-Drive via TB. Its not going very well. Just downloaded the Mac drivers. It connected once It was rebooted, lost connection, and never connected again. What is the deal with these docs?
Hi! I have exactly the same configuration. No interference here. Well maybe it is because I only use balanced jacked cables and ground lifted DI-Boxes if necessary. Maybe this could help you, too?
This is a bit silly. No self-respecting dock manufacturer is going to recommend you use a splitter. There are too many potential issues that could come up. If you feel that tech support can't help you with your concerns, why didn't you get a replacement? That wasn't even attempted. If you care about audio quality and stability, a dock/dongle shouldn't be part of your signal flow. Having the audio interface connected to your dock is similar to using a splitter. It may or may not present an issue but it's not the norm with most people and it's just sloppy if you have a studio setup. I get that you might have a very specific use case but this dock isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. At the moment, it's the top recommended TB3 dock out there by reputable publications. No offense but this reads like an exaggerated 1 star review on Amazon.
Hi Co Co, Thanks so much for watching. I’m glad you found the content engaging enough to write such a long and thoughtful response. Please allow me to address your comment in parts. 1) I can understand why a dock manufacturer wouldn’t want to introduce more variables (and potential issues, as you say) with the addition of splitters. This is a fair point. However, a splitter should not be necessary if the dock is sufficiently equipped. If I remember correctly, the only reason I inquired about a splitter was because almost every port was unnecessarily powered, even when the primary host device was disconnected, causing several headaches. 2) Why would I get a replacement if the encountered issues are design related, and not defect related? I did indeed return the unit in pursuit of a better alternative. 3) With regard to routing the audio interface through a dock, I cannot speak to the systemic detriment (or lack thereof) that it may cause. What I can say for certain is after testing a number of the highest rated Thunderbolt 3 docks on the market, the audible interference/noise propagated from the CalDigit dock through to my monitors was significantly out of line. In fact, my current TB3 dock is a StarTech Dock, and doesn’t exhibit many of the CalDigit’s shortcomings, allowing me to simplify the number of connections necessary to attach my peripherals to my Mac (down to 1), thereby reducing sloppiness. You can check out my review of the StarTech Dock at the following link: th-cam.com/video/CVxRx3goY9o/w-d-xo.html 4) My memory may be failing me, but I don’t recall saying the dock was “bad.” Rather, I expressed my disappointment and showcased its shortcomings (which were likely amplified in my use case, but I digress). 5) I agree it is one of the top recommended TB3 docks out there by reputable publications, which is the reason I tried it in the first place, and why I found it so disappointing when it didn’t meet my expectations. Best, Aaron P.S. Don’t forget to subscribe for future content (if you haven’t already)!
Pardon the candor here, but you sound like someone that's never worked in a professional studio environment. Docks, hubs, and expandable I/O is a common and completely acceptable part of any audio engineer's kit. And in this day and age, long after the golden era of G4's, and several iterations of the Mac Pro which are quickly losing their ability to keep up with the rigors of a mainstream studio environment, MacBook Pros (especially for anyone, like myself, who still works a fair bit with Logic Pro X as their preferred DAW) are one of the most consistent workstations found in a many studios. So, stating a dock shouldn't be part of your signal "chain" is nonsense, bordering on complete ignorance. Even the gear in your rack are essentially "docks." So, while I own the CalDigit myself and love it for use on my MacBook Pro for almost all other use-cases, the points in the video are absolutely valid and empirically true. I've had to find alternative solutions to my own setup, as I also experienced interference through my HS80's and Apogee interfaces. I've actually resorted to using my older 2015 MacBook Pro for my audio work, and just use my 2019 model for everything else. It's obvious from the video that he's disappointed by the performance for his needs; that doesn't mean it's not going to work for someone else. But even beyond using it in a studio environment there are some real concerns for normal consumers, which he's touched on as well. Again, I absolutely love the CalDigit for everything else; but it does not work for my studio setup, which means that both those consumer reviews are accurate, and so is this critique of its shortcomings.
@@Silverjerk would you mind answering a question regarding if the Caldigit would be ideal for my needs? I have a 2016 MacBook Pro 13 inch and use a Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen with an NTG2 to record audio using Logic Pro X. Would the Caldigit be ideal for my setup or would it cause audio interface? My MacBook has only two ports if that means anything. I would really appreciate your response.
This all sounds like it's an issue for YOU, not for everyone else. I've had no issues with mine and I've been using it for 3 years now with multiple MacBook Pros
Shocking review! Really really nit picking at simple things that in reality are not an issue at all! This has actually persuaded me to buy one just to rub salt in your wounds haha!
I think his points are extremely valid. Sure a bit pickey with the - not wanting to plug into the front but im the same way I just don't say it out loud. As far as the noise interference with his audio interface - that's just a big NO. I would return it for that reason alone.
Actually it is an issue! Hub has no power button like for example Anker PowerExpand Elite. I am looking for hub and comparing models. Two choices Anker and CalDigit. But I do not want my devices to be ON when PC is off. Anker has power button on a front panel so I probably buy it
Wow, you brought up issues that I had never thought about. Now I have a Caldigit SOHO on order, but I don't know if I have a very complicated setup that would run into those sorts of things or not.
@@computerdynamo ah, OK, now I see, when you said, "the minute you unplug the dock from the computer it continues to spin for a long time". That actually relieves my anxiety because I would just leave this always plugged into my iMac which has a drastic shortage of ports.
The power v powered discussion doesn't seem to right. Most computer USB ports supply power, just some more than others, and connected devices work well from those. Why not this dock? All USB ports will communicate-share data....powered or not, so I don't get how it matters whether any of the ports are powered or not...for the port to signal data telling an external device to power down or up. If the device that's connected doesn't require the extra power from a port....it will simply not draw it. If the computer is telling the device to shut down...it will do so regardless of the power that can be drawn from the port. Maybe what he's trying to say is that his connected devices are not cutting off automatically. That's not a power issue. It's a control-functional issue of that device or it's not getting the command from the computer. I don't buy the logic that the instruction for the connected device to shut down does not happen because the USB port have too much power. The devices should be able to be to power down even when they connected to a powered USB port. Sounds more like to me like he doesn't have his installation setup right.
The only issue that I face and couldn't manage to solve is the Audio input jack and by messing about trying to solve the issue, I would end up with it having a static sound affecting it. Now I don't use the setup and dock for music production, but I do need the input (mic) to work properly without any issues whenever I'm on a call or working. If anyone has any issues or could provide me with insight on how to get around it is highly appreciated.
My windows laptop doesn’t shutdown completely whenever I connect the laptop to the dock . The shut down function works well if do not connect to the dock. Does anyone knows how resolve this shut down issue ? I have to press the power button for 10 Sec to force shut down the laptop once I connect it to this dock.
Hi computedynamo, I watched your video after I ordered x2 of these for my Macbook Pro 15 2018 as I wanted to continue using my three monitor setup after selling my Mac Pro. I thought nah, it'l be fine! Well, you evidentally try and test your poducts, as I do, and really get into the nitty gritty of the performance. I like the Caldigit. The speeds from SSD's are great, but its true, it creates an audio groundloop with my Focusrite audio interface!! It hums, it squeels and it hisses! I can even hear my wireless mouse pointer going along the screen. And no re-ordering of connections will get rid! Im a guitarist and I record alot so this was a no no. I have a solution though that ive used time and time again with similar problems. Break the ground loop with an optical cable. This sorted it. Luckily, I have an optical input on my speakers and it did the trick. An analogue to digital coverter will work in between the audion interface and the speakers. You could potentially convert it back with a digital to audio converter to connect back to RCA connections. But as long as the wiring is broken, in this case with light! Your also right about the powering down, it leaves some devices running, such as my Thermaltake Laptop cooler powered by USB, the lights remain on after shutdown. Although the external drives look to be off as the lights go out which is strange. The docking utility doesnt appear to detect all peripherals and it certainly hasnt figured out I have two TS3 units. Plus, my screens would go off first using the utility to shut down the TS3's before I can shutdown the laptop. Caldigit have some things to iron out first before this is a perfect dock. However, its fast, and aside from the fact you need an ACTIVE!! displayport to HDMI adapter to utilise an HDMI monitor its great in every other respect. Im going to hold on a bit longer with this. I was tempted by your review of the Startech TB3 x6USB 4K dock but the USB 3.0 only ports put me off. No gen 2 ports. Plus they're even more expensive. Anyway, thanks for the detailed review. Im glad somebody else went through the same frustration as me.
Thank you for being so specific in your review, it saved me from purchasing one. While i still think this has the best design and port selection on the market, the fact that anything connected to it won't shut down once you put the computer into sleep mode or shut it down is a BIG disadvantage (especially for someone with a home studio who doesn't want to use an extra power rack)! Not to mention the audio interference which is totally unacceptable, especially since this was designed to be used by professionals (dj's, musicians and music producers using external audio interfaces with studio monitors and all sorts of other gear being one of the main targeted market). It was both funny and annoying to read some of these comments from people calling you picky or silly for giving out some good real use information rather than generic info like most of the other reviewers out there who got the hub for free from the company itself and don't even bother to go past "let's test the hdd speed through this"... Kudos to you for the level headed replies to some of these "quick to judge" and "know better" people out here!
This guy doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. It’s a dock. They are supposed to keep power on. Also, plenty of ports are what docks are for. I’ve owned two of these with no issues.
My windows laptop doesn’t shutdown completely whenever I connect the laptop to the dock . The shut down function works well if do not connect to the dock. Does anyone knows how resolve this shut down issue ? I have to press the power button for 10 Sec to force shut down the laptop once I connect it to this dock.
Your concern at the 2:30 mark is addressed with software from CalDigit. And how can anyone complain about a "Plethora or ports?" You want less? This is a dock!
Peter Yeh Just to clarify for those reading the above comment, I did try the CalDigit software designed to manage and eject connected devices on Mac, but found it ineffective, at the time. It is possible that it has since been improved, but I personally wouldn’t chance it when there are other great options out there. Also, regarding the second point, my mention of the plethora of ports does not (and was never meant to) constitute an assertion that more ports is a negative thing. As such, the claim that I complained “about a ‘Plethora or [sic] ports’” is totally inaccurate and untrue. Just figured I’d set the record straight.
For someone who reckons he has such exacting standards he certainly didn’t research the products abilities fully. The MacBook in question clearly has configuration issues, my Mac works exactly as it should and does power down along with the dock ( incorrectly referred to by this reviewer as a hub at the start) when you finish the session. The reviewers snowflake approach is highlighted by his complaint of being an insomniac being kept awake by his Caldigit dock by an LED which is so small his complaint is laughable. Don’t sleep with computer equipment is the answer! Caldigit have since upgraded the unit to provide 87w of charging and continue to improve the device. I have found their support exemplary and frankly this review highlights more about the reviewers personal unreasonable expectations than offering a genuine useful review and readers should take the review with a large pinch of salt. Why not take a look at other reviews, of which there are many over the last four years proving this unit is in fact excellent value for money.
Hi Steve, Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment (and a long one at that)! I can only imagine the frustration that would’ve motivated such a response. Nevertheless, I am glad to see you engage with my content. It’s possible that since the time of the recording nearly 3 years ago (I’m both surprised and delighted that people continue to watch such an old review) improvements to the device and support have been made. However, at the time, what I reported on was indeed accurate. I wanted to like it, but I couldn’t justify keeping it, given my findings. If you’ve had a better experience, or aren’t bothered by the problems I discovered, I’m happy for you. However, there are ways of saying things. You’re certainly free to minimize and condescend, but I should warn you, it’s not particularly endearing. I recommend sticking to expressing your own views and observations without trying to tear down others in the process. It might lend to a more credible rebuttal the next time. Best, Aaron
@@computerdynamo Aaron I apologise if this came across like that, maybe I was having a bad day ! However I do think that your credibility is also questionable when you admit to sleeping with your Dock lol , I withdraw my comment as I didn't want to offend it was more tongue in cheek really, I also didn't appreciate the age of the post, have a great day !
I don’t agree with you at all. All my high end Thunderbolt products require power. I use an Anker USB 3 hub (also powered) that gives me 10 USB ports. The TS3 Plus allows me to run Thunderbolt 1 & 2 protocols with a Thunderbolt 3 piece of hardware. You may not have the needs that I have for high end DAW equipment but this piece works great for me and has saved me having to go out and buy a Thunderbolt 3 MacBook 10X the price of the TS3 Plus. I’m very happy with this piece. You obviously don’t have the same needs I do.
Out of curiosity, what kind of DAW equipment do you use? I was advised against connecting an audio interface to a dock, did you successfully get it to work without an issue?
Who would want a Steinberg audio interface anyway, they produce a whole lot of noise themselves already. They really do, they absolutely suck. So you telling that the TS3 doesn't live up to your standards and expectations is simply ridiculous...
For being such a "tech" guy, why wouldn't you plug the dock power brick into a switchable power strip so you can shut down the power to the CalDigit hub when you have such high concern about disks spinning after unplugging? I mean, a low tech solution for a high tech guy, right?
Hi Steve, Thanks for the taking the time to watch my review and provide a suggestion. It's not a horrible idea, but it would've prevented me from using the actively powered ports as intended (to charge devices like my smartphone). It also wouldn't have solved other issues, like the audio interference issue that was caused by the dock. FWIW, I do keep my dock connected to a surge protector with an on/off switch, but only use the on/off switch sparingly as it is necessarily located in an unfortunately inconvenient location. For the price I paid for the dock, I felt it didn't live up to expectation. Maybe you feel differently. That's ok. See you in a future video. Best, Aaron
To be honest, I haven’t. It didn’t seem worth my time to work around the problem. I’m pretty happy with the StarTech dock I ended up settling on, which I also featured on my channel.
Hi Adam, While thoughtful, I’m afraid it could not have been the case as the Mac I used in conjunction with the CalDigit was a 2017 MacBook Pro, which was not manufactured with a T2 chip. Regardless, I would like to thank you for watching and engaging with my content.
@@computerdynamo Ahh, well in THAT case, you are correct! I do have one gripe about the Caldigit-it gets WAY too hot. So hot, that I have to run tabletop fans behind them (I use two), but other than that, I love the TS3+.
Thank you for your question. I am a critical and exacting consumer and I try to give my honest thoughts in my reviews. I hope these thoughts help others when they shop, especially for higher-end equipment. As far as Bluetooth is concerned, my particular setup provides higher fidelity and more accurate sound reproduction than can likely be found in most Bluetooth setups. Also, I already own the equipment. If you truly are a US veteran, thank you for your service. For more tech context, don’t forget to subscribe (if you haven’t already)!
computerdynamo I understand your viewpoint. Just trying help improve your station. So maybe when discussing the things you don't like maybe give better context as well as those that this wouldn't effect like us with Bluetooth speakers. Also ways to avoid the problem.
Very specific review, I think a lot of it could be summed down to the fact of induction. This device Is powered with all powered USB ports. For your situation and applications I would say a non powered USB C bus is the better solution. The electrical grounding and power equalization of MacBook Pro laptops has never been the greatest. And without a properly ground isolated breakaway dock of any kind - you will always tend to have frequency kickback into the power channel.
Yeah definitely sounds like a ground loop issue.
If you acquire an isolator you can usually eliminate the issue
Thank you for being an honest reviewer despite the hate
Did you find a good alternative?
EDIT: Nevermind, I saw your review for the Startech. Whilst I really like the look and sound of the Startech, I need to run a Samsung T7 with my Macbook M1 Pro, so it seems like my best choice is the Caldigit. Unfortunate really as I know that your concerns with the Caldigit are likely to bother me too. Had it not been for the lack of gen 2 on the Startech it would have been a no brainer for me.
Thank you for your honest video. I cannot understand the various comments that you are nitpicking.
There are many docs on the market, and a lot of them are rel shit. I am now researching for several days just to buy a bloody doc! It should not have to be such an arduous task.
CalDigit TS3 is asking for a premium price. I saw a disassembly and it is indeed well build and appear not to use cheap components. However you are totally right to have the expectations you have. It's one thing to be able to say "hey, don't complain about audio issues on your $30 dock". It's another on a $300 dock. The point with devices not powering down is also a huge issue. I mean come on, so much effort went into this dock...and the last 10% botched/missing is killing it. With things like TB 3 you'd expect there is plenty of signals going back and forth that the dock could tell the devices to power down.
All in all, very honest review. Quite apart from the idiotic, mindless "here's your top 5 docs for 2021" where all they say it looks shiny and has so many ports. I can see that from description on an online store.
I am also terribly disappointed. I spend so much time researching this and this was going to be the dock I was going to order. Now I get to restart my research again....to find the perfect dock for relatively decent price and for it to do what honestly docks should do seems an impossibly endevor...
Don't be disappointed by the ones saying you're nit picking. If they bought a Porshe they would also nitpick if their car would have tires vibrating at 120 km/h and would not tell you "well just drive slower". If I bought a Porsche, I expect flawless execution! Otherwise I could buy Toyota Tercel...
Cheers and keep them reviews coming!
Did you find a better dock?
Hello friend. Have found a good substitution to caldigit? I am looking for the HYPER HyperDrive GEN2 16-in-1 Thunderbolt 3 dock, same price range... Thanks for your review, help a lot!
Good to see a negative review and that none of the issues raised will apply to me.
Fair review. No one talks about this, and your use case is unique. It'll be useful for those in a similar situation.
Its a pleasure listening to someone who can articulate their points efficiently. Im currently trying to get my brand new OWC TB 3 to connect to my G-Drive via TB. Its not going very well. Just downloaded the Mac drivers. It connected once It was rebooted, lost connection, and never connected again. What is the deal with these docs?
Hi! I have exactly the same configuration. No interference here. Well maybe it is because I only use balanced jacked cables and ground lifted DI-Boxes if necessary. Maybe this could help you, too?
Thank you for this info! Really helped me.
Great to know! What other product would you suggest?
Check out my video about the StarTech dock! th-cam.com/video/CVxRx3goY9o/w-d-xo.html
This is a bit silly. No self-respecting dock manufacturer is going to recommend you use a splitter. There are too many potential issues that could come up. If you feel that tech support can't help you with your concerns, why didn't you get a replacement? That wasn't even attempted. If you care about audio quality and stability, a dock/dongle shouldn't be part of your signal flow. Having the audio interface connected to your dock is similar to using a splitter. It may or may not present an issue but it's not the norm with most people and it's just sloppy if you have a studio setup. I get that you might have a very specific use case but this dock isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. At the moment, it's the top recommended TB3 dock out there by reputable publications. No offense but this reads like an exaggerated 1 star review on Amazon.
Hi Co Co,
Thanks so much for watching. I’m glad you found the content engaging enough to write such a long and thoughtful response. Please allow me to address your comment in parts.
1) I can understand why a dock manufacturer wouldn’t want to introduce more variables (and potential issues, as you say) with the addition of splitters. This is a fair point. However, a splitter should not be necessary if the dock is sufficiently equipped. If I remember correctly, the only reason I inquired about a splitter was because almost every port was unnecessarily powered, even when the primary host device was disconnected, causing several headaches.
2) Why would I get a replacement if the encountered issues are design related, and not defect related? I did indeed return the unit in pursuit of a better alternative.
3) With regard to routing the audio interface through a dock, I cannot speak to the systemic detriment (or lack thereof) that it may cause. What I can say for certain is after testing a number of the highest rated Thunderbolt 3 docks on the market, the audible interference/noise propagated from the CalDigit dock through to my monitors was significantly out of line. In fact, my current TB3 dock is a StarTech Dock, and doesn’t exhibit many of the CalDigit’s shortcomings, allowing me to simplify the number of connections necessary to attach my peripherals to my Mac (down to 1), thereby reducing sloppiness. You can check out my review of the StarTech Dock at the following link: th-cam.com/video/CVxRx3goY9o/w-d-xo.html
4) My memory may be failing me, but I don’t recall saying the dock was “bad.” Rather, I expressed my disappointment and showcased its shortcomings (which were likely amplified in my use case, but I digress).
5) I agree it is one of the top recommended TB3 docks out there by reputable publications, which is the reason I tried it in the first place, and why I found it so disappointing when it didn’t meet my expectations.
Best,
Aaron
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@@computerdynamo Kudos for level headed reply to good critique. I agree with Co Co with all of his points.
Pardon the candor here, but you sound like someone that's never worked in a professional studio environment. Docks, hubs, and expandable I/O is a common and completely acceptable part of any audio engineer's kit. And in this day and age, long after the golden era of G4's, and several iterations of the Mac Pro which are quickly losing their ability to keep up with the rigors of a mainstream studio environment, MacBook Pros (especially for anyone, like myself, who still works a fair bit with Logic Pro X as their preferred DAW) are one of the most consistent workstations found in a many studios.
So, stating a dock shouldn't be part of your signal "chain" is nonsense, bordering on complete ignorance. Even the gear in your rack are essentially "docks." So, while I own the CalDigit myself and love it for use on my MacBook Pro for almost all other use-cases, the points in the video are absolutely valid and empirically true. I've had to find alternative solutions to my own setup, as I also experienced interference through my HS80's and Apogee interfaces. I've actually resorted to using my older 2015 MacBook Pro for my audio work, and just use my 2019 model for everything else.
It's obvious from the video that he's disappointed by the performance for his needs; that doesn't mean it's not going to work for someone else. But even beyond using it in a studio environment there are some real concerns for normal consumers, which he's touched on as well. Again, I absolutely love the CalDigit for everything else; but it does not work for my studio setup, which means that both those consumer reviews are accurate, and so is this critique of its shortcomings.
@@Silverjerk would you mind answering a question regarding if the Caldigit would be ideal for my needs?
I have a 2016 MacBook Pro 13 inch and use a Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen with an NTG2 to record audio using Logic Pro X. Would the Caldigit be ideal for my setup or would it cause audio interface?
My MacBook has only two ports if that means anything. I would really appreciate your response.
This all sounds like it's an issue for YOU, not for everyone else. I've had no issues with mine and I've been using it for 3 years now with multiple MacBook Pros
Shocking review! Really really nit picking at simple things that in reality are not an issue at all! This has actually persuaded me to buy one just to rub salt in your wounds haha!
I think his points are extremely valid. Sure a bit pickey with the - not wanting to plug into the front but im the same way I just don't say it out loud. As far as the noise interference with his audio interface - that's just a big NO. I would return it for that reason alone.
Actually it is an issue! Hub has no power button like for example Anker PowerExpand Elite. I am looking for hub and comparing models. Two choices Anker and CalDigit. But I do not want my devices to be ON when PC is off. Anker has power button on a front panel so I probably buy it
Wow, you brought up issues that I had never thought about. Now I have a Caldigit SOHO on order, but I don't know if I have a very complicated setup that would run into those sorts of things or not.
This is only the second time I’m hearing about the SOHO. Hopefully it works well for you. Keep us posted!
@@computerdynamo ah, OK, now I see, when you said, "the minute you unplug the dock from the computer it continues to spin for a long time". That actually relieves my anxiety because I would just leave this always plugged into my iMac which has a drastic shortage of ports.
The power v powered discussion doesn't seem to right. Most computer USB ports supply power, just some more than others, and connected devices work well from those. Why not this dock? All USB ports will communicate-share data....powered or not, so I don't get how it matters whether any of the ports are powered or not...for the port to signal data telling an external device to power down or up. If the device that's connected doesn't require the extra power from a port....it will simply not draw it. If the computer is telling the device to shut down...it will do so regardless of the power that can be drawn from the port. Maybe what he's trying to say is that his connected devices are not cutting off automatically. That's not a power issue. It's a control-functional issue of that device or it's not getting the command from the computer. I don't buy the logic that the instruction for the connected device to shut down does not happen because the USB port have too much power. The devices should be able to be to power down even when they connected to a powered USB port. Sounds more like to me like he doesn't have his installation setup right.
Yeah! 🤣
The only issue that I face and couldn't manage to solve is the Audio input jack and by messing about trying to solve the issue, I would end up with it having a static sound affecting it. Now I don't use the setup and dock for music production, but I do need the input (mic) to work properly without any issues whenever I'm on a call or working. If anyone has any issues or could provide me with insight on how to get around it is highly appreciated.
what did you end up getting in place of this?
A StarTech model. You can checkout my review here: th-cam.com/video/CVxRx3goY9o/w-d-xo.html .
How to connect with dual PC which is based on Window 10 ?
My windows laptop doesn’t shutdown completely whenever I connect the laptop to the dock . The shut down function works well if do not connect to the dock. Does anyone knows how resolve this shut down issue ? I have to press the power button for 10 Sec to force shut down the laptop once I connect it to this dock.
Hi computedynamo, I watched your video after I ordered x2 of these for my Macbook Pro 15 2018 as I wanted to continue using my three monitor setup after selling my Mac Pro. I thought nah, it'l be fine! Well, you evidentally try and test your poducts, as I do, and really get into the nitty gritty of the performance. I like the Caldigit. The speeds from SSD's are great, but its true, it creates an audio groundloop with my Focusrite audio interface!! It hums, it squeels and it hisses! I can even hear my wireless mouse pointer going along the screen. And no re-ordering of connections will get rid! Im a guitarist and I record alot so this was a no no.
I have a solution though that ive used time and time again with similar problems. Break the ground loop with an optical cable. This sorted it. Luckily, I have an optical input on my speakers and it did the trick. An analogue to digital coverter will work in between the audion interface and the speakers. You could potentially convert it back with a digital to audio converter to connect back to RCA connections. But as long as the wiring is broken, in this case with light!
Your also right about the powering down, it leaves some devices running, such as my Thermaltake Laptop cooler powered by USB, the lights remain on after shutdown. Although the external drives look to be off as the lights go out which is strange. The docking utility doesnt appear to detect all peripherals and it certainly hasnt figured out I have two TS3 units. Plus, my screens would go off first using the utility to shut down the TS3's before I can shutdown the laptop. Caldigit have some things to iron out first before this is a perfect dock.
However, its fast, and aside from the fact you need an ACTIVE!! displayport to HDMI adapter to utilise an HDMI monitor its great in every other respect. Im going to hold on a bit longer with this. I was tempted by your review of the Startech TB3 x6USB 4K dock but the USB 3.0 only ports put me off. No gen 2 ports. Plus they're even more expensive.
Anyway, thanks for the detailed review. Im glad somebody else went through the same frustration as me.
Hi Danimal,
Thank you for your thorough and thoughtful comments.
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Aaron
Thank you for being so specific in your review, it saved me from purchasing one.
While i still think this has the best design and port selection on the market, the fact that anything connected to it won't shut down once you put the computer into sleep mode or shut it down is a BIG disadvantage (especially for someone with a home studio who doesn't want to use an extra power rack)!
Not to mention the audio interference which is totally unacceptable, especially since this was designed to be used by professionals (dj's, musicians and music producers using external audio interfaces with studio monitors and all sorts of other gear being one of the main targeted market).
It was both funny and annoying to read some of these comments from people calling you picky or silly for giving out some good real use information rather than generic info like most of the other reviewers out there who got the hub for free from the company itself and don't even bother to go past "let's test the hdd speed through this"...
Kudos to you for the level headed replies to some of these "quick to judge" and "know better" people out here!
This guy doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about. It’s a dock. They are supposed to keep power on. Also, plenty of ports are what docks are for. I’ve owned two of these with no issues.
My windows laptop doesn’t shutdown completely whenever I connect the laptop to the dock . The shut down function works well if do not connect to the dock. Does anyone knows how resolve this shut down issue ? I have to press the power button for 10 Sec to force shut down the laptop once I connect it to this dock.
Good review! Thanks! Stopped me from buying it..
Your concern at the 2:30 mark is addressed with software from CalDigit. And how can anyone complain about a "Plethora or ports?" You want less? This is a dock!
Peter Yeh Just to clarify for those reading the above comment, I did try the CalDigit software designed to manage and eject connected devices on Mac, but found it ineffective, at the time. It is possible that it has since been improved, but I personally wouldn’t chance it when there are other great options out there.
Also, regarding the second point, my mention of the plethora of ports does not (and was never meant to) constitute an assertion that more ports is a negative thing. As such, the claim that I complained “about a ‘Plethora or [sic] ports’” is totally inaccurate and untrue.
Just figured I’d set the record straight.
@@computerdynamo Please inform me of the other great options.
Have to say Startech will put in their specs all the relevant chips used in each device. Not so Caldigit or others.
True! Transparency helps build trust. Just another reason why I decided on StarTech.
For someone who reckons he has such exacting standards he certainly didn’t research the products abilities fully. The MacBook in question clearly has configuration issues, my Mac works exactly as it should and does power down along with the dock ( incorrectly referred to by this reviewer as a hub at the start) when you finish the session. The reviewers snowflake approach is highlighted by his complaint of being an insomniac being kept awake by his Caldigit dock by an LED which is so small his complaint is laughable. Don’t sleep with computer equipment is the answer! Caldigit have since upgraded the unit to provide 87w of charging and continue to improve the device. I have found their support exemplary and frankly this review highlights more about the reviewers personal unreasonable expectations than offering a genuine useful review and readers should take the review with a large pinch of salt. Why not take a look at other reviews, of which there are many over the last four years proving this unit is in fact excellent value for money.
Hi Steve,
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment (and a long one at that)!
I can only imagine the frustration that would’ve motivated such a response. Nevertheless, I am glad to see you engage with my content.
It’s possible that since the time of the recording nearly 3 years ago (I’m both surprised and delighted that people continue to watch such an old review) improvements to the device and support have been made. However, at the time, what I reported on was indeed accurate. I wanted to like it, but I couldn’t justify keeping it, given my findings.
If you’ve had a better experience, or aren’t bothered by the problems I discovered, I’m happy for you. However, there are ways of saying things. You’re certainly free to minimize and condescend, but I should warn you, it’s not particularly endearing. I recommend sticking to expressing your own views and observations without trying to tear down others in the process. It might lend to a more credible rebuttal the next time.
Best,
Aaron
@@computerdynamo Aaron I apologise if this came across like that, maybe I was having a bad day ! However I do think that your credibility is also questionable when you admit to sleeping with your Dock lol , I withdraw my comment as I didn't want to offend it was more tongue in cheek really, I also didn't appreciate the age of the post, have a great day !
I don’t agree with you at all. All my high end Thunderbolt products require power. I use an Anker USB 3 hub (also powered) that gives me 10 USB ports. The TS3 Plus allows me to run Thunderbolt 1 & 2 protocols with a Thunderbolt 3 piece of hardware. You may not have the needs that I have for high end DAW equipment but this piece works great for me and has saved me having to go out and buy a Thunderbolt 3 MacBook 10X the price of the TS3 Plus. I’m very happy with this piece. You obviously don’t have the same needs I do.
Out of curiosity, what kind of DAW equipment do you use? I was advised against connecting an audio interface to a dock, did you successfully get it to work without an issue?
So you’re just unplugging the computer from the dock without ejecting the harddrive first? 🤦🏻♀️
I don't recall. Do you have a time stamp?
Thanks for honest info
Who would want a Steinberg audio interface anyway, they produce a whole lot of noise themselves already. They really do, they absolutely suck. So you telling that the TS3 doesn't live up to your standards and expectations is simply ridiculous...
It’s 87 watts btw
For being such a "tech" guy, why wouldn't you plug the dock power brick into a switchable power strip so you can shut down the power to the CalDigit hub when you have such high concern about disks spinning after unplugging? I mean, a low tech solution for a high tech guy, right?
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the taking the time to watch my review and provide a suggestion.
It's not a horrible idea, but it would've prevented me from using the actively powered ports as intended (to charge devices like my smartphone). It also wouldn't have solved other issues, like the audio interference issue that was caused by the dock.
FWIW, I do keep my dock connected to a surge protector with an on/off switch, but only use the on/off switch sparingly as it is necessarily located in an unfortunately inconvenient location.
For the price I paid for the dock, I felt it didn't live up to expectation. Maybe you feel differently. That's ok.
See you in a future video.
Best,
Aaron
@@computerdynamo have you tried a wifi switch? I decided to just do that to time when it needs to turn off without reaching for the power switch.
To be honest, I haven’t. It didn’t seem worth my time to work around the problem. I’m pretty happy with the StarTech dock I ended up settling on, which I also featured on my channel.
I don't agree that its the caldigit that is causing your audio issues. The T2 chip is at fault.: wccftech.com/apple-t2-audio-problems-mac/
Hi Adam,
While thoughtful, I’m afraid it could not have been the case as the Mac I used in conjunction with the CalDigit was a 2017 MacBook Pro, which was not manufactured with a T2 chip.
Regardless, I would like to thank you for watching and engaging with my content.
@@computerdynamo Ahh, well in THAT case, you are correct! I do have one gripe about the Caldigit-it gets WAY too hot. So hot, that I have to run tabletop fans behind them (I use two), but other than that, I love the TS3+.
very helpful!
Very nerdy.
You seem like you are being picky. And why are you using non-bluetooth speakers with your MacBook pro?
Thank you for your question.
I am a critical and exacting consumer and I try to give my honest thoughts in my reviews. I hope these thoughts help others when they shop, especially for higher-end equipment.
As far as Bluetooth is concerned, my particular setup provides higher fidelity and more accurate sound reproduction than can likely be found in most Bluetooth setups. Also, I already own the equipment.
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computerdynamo I understand your viewpoint. Just trying help improve your station. So maybe when discussing the things you don't like maybe give better context as well as those that this wouldn't effect like us with Bluetooth speakers. Also ways to avoid the problem.
Thank you for your feedback. I will take this into consideration for future videos.
-Aaron
How can I subscribe you audio record is horrible