I actually switched to alcohol stoves this year and its a gamechanger. So much more quiet out in nature! On dayhikes I do take my Trangia (with which you actually have to do really weird things to knock it over 😅) and on backpacking trips my xboil. No way you are going to be lighter than that one when you take a gas stove.😊
Gas canisters are an ecological nightmare. You can find a huge selection of safe and ultralight alcohol stoves out there. I need about 200 ml of alcohol for one week and i dont come home with a not quite full, not quite empty gas canister. I dont think that makes me a better person, if it e.g. about my co2 footprint. But i would not say that you should "avoid" alcohol stoves.
200 grams for a week seams very low, Trangia and others (does not differ much) uses in perfect condition (so not on the trail doe to wind and temperature) about 11-15 grams of fuel for boiling 2 cups or about 400 ml. So in that case 200 ml is good for 13-20 boils, in perfect conditions. Same as a Windmaster and a small canister! A small canister weighs in at 204 grams, with 100 grams gas so 🤷🏼♂️ if your bottle weighs in at 4 grams it’s a tie!! Not much if a difference, until the wind picks up and temperature drops and the the Windmaster still perform the same while the alcohol stove needs twice as much… hence I can’t recommend a alcohol stove over a canister stove… and then it’s the safety issue cooking in a vestibule and the toxic/hazardous markings like health hazard. For me it’s a no brainier and why I recommend gas stoves.
I agreed with Robert on this. Adverse conditions is where a thoroughly tested and highly designed stove like the Windmaster, Amicus or Bottle Rocket outperforms all others. It’s not just about ecological impact of materials and supplies, it’s also about personal and environmental safety. Even the BRS should not be used without caution as it can become a safety hazard if not used properly as well. Everything has its place, but in the Wild Places I would much rather place my trust in quality gear than cheap alternatives that fit my virtue signaling mindset.
I've used both for ages, but recently I've got to a point where I use alcohol most times. I have a Turbo Gnome stove (19g), a DIY wind shield (65g), and 3 different sized Nalgene antileak bottles ranging from 50ml to 250ml. (biggest is 38g empty) depending on the length of the trip. The reason I use this mostly now is not just weight, but the fact that it's dual purpose too. The windshield works as a twig stove. Which means that if I run out of fuel, I can still boil water. (quickly, in around 7minutes) Plus, with the smaller bottles if I'm just going for a weekend then I'm just taking the exact amount of fuel I need. My alcohol stove uses a coil of carbon felt inside it, so if you tip it over the fuel doesn't spill out. This is a definite plus from a design perspective. Gas is a lot faster, and I used it for ages, and as a beginner hiker it's a good recommendation over a full Trangia set. But it's just not for me. From an ecological perspective, I think there's a can to can transfer tool, so you can put fuel into another container. Plus there's another tool to open an empty can so you can recycle it. Aluminium is quite recyclable at least in the correct way.
@@johnpowell9174 if you like them you like them and nothing wrong actually if you know what your doing and now the risks…Just not what I would recommend to someone new or someone looking for an upgrade from old gear. But I know plenty of people loving alcohol stoves and do experiment myself sometimes with it, fun to do your own canister stove too😃👍🏻 what set do you use?
While I’ve been moving to lighter backpacks that offer the same comfort as my older Ospreys, there are some times that I think heavier ones are still the best choice. My -32C Feathered Friends sleeping bag weighs just 1768g but is so lofty that the smallest I can compress it is about 30l. It doesn’t even fit in my Granite Gear Crown2 60 pack when compressed, stuffing it in without a compression sack works but then it takes up nearly the whole pack. Even my Osprey Aether 70 AG just barely fits the bag, Xtherm, and my small winter tent. What’s left? My 2.9kg Osprey Argon 85, which has more than enough room for bag, pad, tent, all needed clothing, stove, and food. As far as weight capacity it’ll handle more than I’ve carried since my army days almost 25 years ago, which I don’t ever plan on even approaching again. And saying it’s comfortable is the understatement of the century. I’m still dialing it in but it kind of just floats on my back. So even “outdated” stuff still has a place from time to time!
Yea the backpack is the last thing you change when moving from traditional to lightweight gear and for winter it’s another story. You need a warmer sleeping bag/quilt, more clothes and such so yea you end up with a bigger backpack in the end and for that purpose maybe the lightest ones in the market ain’t that good for the purpose. One have to separate winter hiking from 3 season hiking and choose the right gear for the season and the one that works for you!
Hey ! Not talking about the content, only how you share it. I love this style of writing the important words at the moment you pronounce them, the practical examples you show us with real brand and real products names ! This is all I need : a guy who lets me see by myself, compare by myself and gives me points of comparison between what he says and what I already know. Last thing about your flow : I'm watching this video at 1.25 speed, it's perfect 😁
First of all thanks 🙏🏻 glad you like my videos (even if it is on a higher speed 😄) I have got complaints I’m to slow, to fast and everything in between so 🤷🏼♂️ I do what I do… but it seems you like it and that’s great! Love you giving me honest feedback 👍🏻🙏🏻
Disagree about the stoves - I switched to alcohol when I torched my tent with a gas canister-top stove and I've found a simple alcohol burner/cone safer inside the tent because of its stability. Gas is more volatile if you get it wrong. Alcohol is not a heavy fuel unless you carry it in that ridiculously and unnecessarily heavy fuel bottle you've got there. My alcohol setup is lighter and no bulkier than your gas setup over hikes up to 3-4 days, and it's cheaper! Alcohol's downside is its unsuitability for more serious cooking - that's gas territory. You're dead right about the other stuff, particularly the pack. My journey to a lighter load began 8 years ago with ditching my 2.7kg Berghaus monster in favour of the 1.kg Nigor pack I'm still using today.
Hi 👋🏻 and you have some good points. But still you have to be measuring the alcohol for it to be lighter and really have a good wind protection and keep the consumption to a bare minimum like 10-13 grams or something for boiling 2 cups or about 400 ml. Sometimes difficult to do.. but also possible so let’s call it plausible 😄 if one like alcohol then use it , it still not recommended to be used inside a tent, still more risk than gas, I believe. And yep… the Trangia alcohol bottle is super heavy 😄 don’t know why I bought it to begin with, bad purchase for sure!! But very safe bottle that are easy to use. Let’s just agree to disagree 🤷🏼♂️😄 that’s also ok. Glad you liked the rest and agree! 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh We wouldn't want to agree about everything! My alcohol setup is based around the Evernew 900ml Ti pot and consists of a Speedster 30ml Burner (12g), aluminium Cone (35g - titanium would be even lighter), homemade foil Base (9g) and Vargo 227ml Fuel Bottle (30g). I boil 750ml water twice a day which uses 25-30ml alcohol each time, at 0.8gram per 1ml so a little under 50g fuel per day. So, ignoring my pot, mug, spoon and firelighter, this comes to a total of 230g for a three-nighter and 280g for a four-nighter. A standard small gas cartridge (full) weighs around 200ml, to which you must add the 87g weight of your Soto Windmaster burner, so you can see that my claim of my alcohol setup being lighter than your gas setup for trips of up to 3-4 days is based on proper data. If you get yourself the Vargo fuel bottle which is see-through and graduated you'll find it's far, far, easier to measure fuel than gas ever can be - this is one of the advantages of alcohol, because you know exactly how much you've got left at all points in your hike.
@@davids9549 I have to check the Speedster out 👍🏻 and like I said in the video “if your not into it I don’t recommend alcohol stoves” which you clearly are and know what to and how to use it to be as efficient as possible 👍🏻 then it’s an as good option as anything else. But remember…Esbits are even lighter 😉…😄 Jokes aside. You have a great set for your alcohol system and yea, for a short trip like that… like an extended weekend trip it’s also lighter. I give you that 🙂
Just bought used Kajka75 to lug around my synthetic bag and trangia27. My winter setup when I don't hike very far for camping. Maybe couple longer weekend hikes. I'll go more UL when it gets warmer.
Yeah there is nothing wrong with Trangia and for bigger family’s it’s great if you want to really cook for shorter trips or just spending some time outdoors. But like you say, for backpacking a gas stove is much lighter, smaller and more efficient.
Thanks, glad you liked it !! 🙂 I enjoy your videos too… good quality content 👍🏻 I can also confess I got the inspiration for this episode from you 😄 so thanks! 🙏🏻
Excellent. One question though. In comparing alcohol vs canister, shouldn't weights of fuel-containers be included? Empty canisters weigh roughly 5oz vs empty alcohol at less than 1oz? Canisters have many advantages, but weight is not one of them? And while Soto is best-in-class, Trangia is possibly worst-in-class?
Hi Tom and yes, you are right about the canisters. But to actually be more efficient using a alcohol stove with a weight saving you nearly need perfect conditions like using only 11-12 grams or something. So you red to measure the amount and then possibly save what you have left. Since it is difficult to cook only when warm and no wind it is most of the time more efficient and lighter using a gas stove that more or less (like the Windmaster) despite conditions use the same amount and like 5-7 grams. A gas stove is less fuss, less dependent on weather (if using a good one) and more efficient and lighter in the end. That’s my 5 cent anyways 🙂 And no, Trangia is not worst in class…in my opinion it’s the best Alcohol stove out there!! 👍🏻
@@roberthammenrudh - As originally stated, canisters have many other advantages. My capillary alcohol stove weighs 11g. Capillary is the best alcohol design by far. For a guy who trashes old technology, it seems odd you'd back one of the most outdated alcohol designs out there? That said, canister's are the law in so many places, Windmaster sees the most trail-time.
@@tomnoyb8301 yeah 😄, I know much lighter stoves exists but like the fact Trangia comes with a lid so you can save remaining fuel. Windmaster is king 👑🙂👍🏻
you can buy a gasstove for trangia :) - most people how use them do so - its a bit hard to cook for 4 people a bit more advanced dishes with a soto and a small pot - they are for different purposes - so yes, you shouldnt use a trangia for solo hiking, but for group outdoor camps its a great stove.
You are absolutely right, one of the things I didn’t talk about. But for 1 or 2 it’s a real bulky and heavy weigh solution and since it’s mainly famous for its alcohol stove and not the gas. 🤷🏼♂️ I will do a video later this spring focusing more on stove solutions for one or more and what to recommend. Also for those doing a bit more cooking than just boiling water, or fry an egg.
Think you are missing the point with Trangia. They are an extremely heavy and outdated setup. Every part is so much heavier than those made out of titanium. You can pretty much cut half the weight by choosing a modern titanium pot/pan configuration even for a big family cook out. If you have big pots you can have the freestanding burner that can handle the load instead of the Soto windmaster. That option is also about half the weight and price of Trangias version. You save space, weight and money! ;-)
@@robertgustavsson1920 do you have a link for a cook system for half the weight and price with 2 pots, pan and wind screen ? :) that is as easy to use - so we are looking for 350 grams - 2”x1l pots and pan and full windshield and burner for 30 eur
I remember seeing a young student in a shop being fitted for a bag for a trek in Asia, she weighed about 7st and the rucksack they recommended was 80litre 2.5kg....i had to bite my lip!...🙄...that blue hoody you're wearing.... Polartec Alpha?...🤔...
In a situation like that it’s hard not to just go over there and say HEY 👋🏻 , just stop 🛑 😄 and point them in a another direction!! Yep, the blue one is a Senchi Designs Lark Hoodie I bought and received a coupling of weeks ago. So far loving it, 127 gram and about the same warmth as my old ones. I will do a review and a Fleece comparison video a bit later when used it on a couple of hikes!
@@roberthammenrudh you will be on the road to financial ruin, I got hooked and now have six 😆. Alpha is brilliant for active use, so breathable...and really comfy for sleeping in. You'll love it.👌
@@mfinn4463 sounds promising 👍🏻, beside the financial bit 😄 have you noticed a big difference between different brands when it come to Alpha, regarding warmth and durability ?
@@roberthammenrudh not really, the main noticeable difference is the weight of Alpha in the different garments, 60, 80, 90 etc. I find 90 can be bit too warm sometimes from for the conditions but it will depend how hot you get when active. Certainly more versatile than say a grid fleece top either way. Brand wise no real difference though. Its a surprisingly durable fabric for something that feels a bit fragile.
@@mfinn4463 thanks 🙏🏻 the Lark Hoodie is in 90 if I read correctly, so far it doesn’t feel much warmer than my micro fleece options but the breathability is super high! So probably needs to put on a windbreaker a bit sooner than normal… just hope I will not overheat 😄
@@roberthammenrudh Nice, I have the Macpac Nitro and Norröna Falketind. I prefer the thin one (Macpac). Had them for years. They are really awesome. If you move a lot you can actually layer them and get a really good ventilation and heat combo.
Hi 👋🏻, it’s the Senchi Designs Lark Hoodie in Polartec Alpha. Bought it like a week or two ago and love it so far… but before a review I need to use it a bit more and out on the trail.
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3:54 Let’s not brush alcohol stoves away so quickly Ref: Evernew Appalachian set 160g
Yes , There are some better options but sometimes you can't improve on the time tested and proven ones. Trangia is time tested and has been around forever. You don't need the whole outfit , just the burner and a small folding stand for it with a windscreen. It's quiet , easy to use and there is nothing to break down like gas stoves love to do. One step further , combine it with a small titanium wood burning stove ( Folding , Firebox Nano / titanium 4 ounces ) you have the best of both worlds , alcohol or wood to cook with. I use a ****Evernew titanium alcohol burner ( 1.83 ounces ) in mine. By combining them , ( titanium burner , titanium stove ) they weigh a total of 5.83 ounces. Titanium cools a lot faster then any other metal so you can pack up and go sooner. For the most part I take life easy on the trail. A wood burning stove is practical and saves on fuel since it's all around me , I hammock camp. If I'm in a hurry for a quick hot beverage , the alcohol stove as the heat source. Sleeping pads , I have been using a Therm-a-Rest self inflating mummy style , full length for 30 years or longer. It's never touched the ground , I like it 3/4 inflated in any of my Hammocks. **** The Evernew burner is the same size as the Traditional Brass Trangia.
The same can be said for any piece of gear "I've been using this for x years and it hasn't given me problems" gas stoves are just as reliable as any other stove, yes even the cheap chinese brs stove, as long as you don't bend them and even then it's an easy fix.
I actually switched to alcohol stoves this year and its a gamechanger. So much more quiet out in nature! On dayhikes I do take my Trangia (with which you actually have to do really weird things to knock it over 😅) and on backpacking trips my xboil. No way you are going to be lighter than that one when you take a gas stove.😊
Gas canisters are an ecological nightmare. You can find a huge selection of safe and ultralight alcohol stoves out there. I need about 200 ml of alcohol for one week and i dont come home with a not quite full, not quite empty gas canister. I dont think that makes me a better person, if it e.g. about my co2 footprint. But i would not say that you should "avoid" alcohol stoves.
200 grams for a week seams very low, Trangia and others (does not differ much) uses in perfect condition (so not on the trail doe to wind and temperature) about 11-15 grams of fuel for boiling 2 cups or about 400 ml.
So in that case 200 ml is good for 13-20 boils, in perfect conditions. Same as a Windmaster and a small canister!
A small canister weighs in at 204 grams, with 100 grams gas so 🤷🏼♂️ if your bottle weighs in at 4 grams it’s a tie!!
Not much if a difference, until the wind picks up and temperature drops and the the Windmaster still perform the same while the alcohol stove needs twice as much… hence I can’t recommend a alcohol stove over a canister stove… and then it’s the safety issue cooking in a vestibule and the toxic/hazardous markings like health hazard.
For me it’s a no brainier and why I recommend gas stoves.
I agreed with Robert on this. Adverse conditions is where a thoroughly tested and highly designed stove like the Windmaster, Amicus or Bottle Rocket outperforms all others. It’s not just about ecological impact of materials and supplies, it’s also about personal and environmental safety. Even the BRS should not be used without caution as it can become a safety hazard if not used properly as well. Everything has its place, but in the Wild Places I would much rather place my trust in quality gear than cheap alternatives that fit my virtue signaling mindset.
I've used both for ages, but recently I've got to a point where I use alcohol most times. I have a Turbo Gnome stove (19g), a DIY wind shield (65g), and 3 different sized Nalgene antileak bottles ranging from 50ml to 250ml. (biggest is 38g empty) depending on the length of the trip.
The reason I use this mostly now is not just weight, but the fact that it's dual purpose too. The windshield works as a twig stove. Which means that if I run out of fuel, I can still boil water. (quickly, in around 7minutes)
Plus, with the smaller bottles if I'm just going for a weekend then I'm just taking the exact amount of fuel I need.
My alcohol stove uses a coil of carbon felt inside it, so if you tip it over the fuel doesn't spill out. This is a definite plus from a design perspective.
Gas is a lot faster, and I used it for ages, and as a beginner hiker it's a good recommendation over a full Trangia set. But it's just not for me.
From an ecological perspective, I think there's a can to can transfer tool, so you can put fuel into another container. Plus there's another tool to open an empty can so you can recycle it. Aluminium is quite recyclable at least in the correct way.
I’ve used alcohol stoves for 50 years and prefer them to gas for a variety of reasons.
@@johnpowell9174 if you like them you like them and nothing wrong actually if you know what your doing and now the risks…Just not what I would recommend to someone new or someone looking for an upgrade from old gear. But I know plenty of people loving alcohol stoves and do experiment myself sometimes with it, fun to do your own canister stove too😃👍🏻 what set do you use?
Im so glad I found this channel. It's becoming my favourite hiking channel.
A Big Thanks 🙏🏻 super glad your enjoying the content!! 🙂
While I’ve been moving to lighter backpacks that offer the same comfort as my older Ospreys, there are some times that I think heavier ones are still the best choice. My -32C Feathered Friends sleeping bag weighs just 1768g but is so lofty that the smallest I can compress it is about 30l. It doesn’t even fit in my Granite Gear Crown2 60 pack when compressed, stuffing it in without a compression sack works but then it takes up nearly the whole pack. Even my Osprey Aether 70 AG just barely fits the bag, Xtherm, and my small winter tent. What’s left? My 2.9kg Osprey Argon 85, which has more than enough room for bag, pad, tent, all needed clothing, stove, and food. As far as weight capacity it’ll handle more than I’ve carried since my army days almost 25 years ago, which I don’t ever plan on even approaching again. And saying it’s comfortable is the understatement of the century. I’m still dialing it in but it kind of just floats on my back. So even “outdated” stuff still has a place from time to time!
Yea the backpack is the last thing you change when moving from traditional to lightweight gear and for winter it’s another story. You need a warmer sleeping bag/quilt, more clothes and such so yea you end up with a bigger backpack in the end and for that purpose maybe the lightest ones in the market ain’t that good for the purpose.
One have to separate winter hiking from 3 season hiking and choose the right gear for the season and the one that works for you!
Hey ! Not talking about the content, only how you share it.
I love this style of writing the important words at the moment you pronounce them, the practical examples you show us with real brand and real products names !
This is all I need : a guy who lets me see by myself, compare by myself and gives me points of comparison between what he says and what I already know.
Last thing about your flow : I'm watching this video at 1.25 speed, it's perfect 😁
First of all thanks 🙏🏻 glad you like my videos (even if it is on a higher speed 😄)
I have got complaints I’m to slow, to fast and everything in between so 🤷🏼♂️ I do what I do… but it seems you like it and that’s great! Love you giving me honest feedback 👍🏻🙏🏻
Disagree about the stoves - I switched to alcohol when I torched my tent with a gas canister-top stove and I've found a simple alcohol burner/cone safer inside the tent because of its stability. Gas is more volatile if you get it wrong. Alcohol is not a heavy fuel unless you carry it in that ridiculously and unnecessarily heavy fuel bottle you've got there. My alcohol setup is lighter and no bulkier than your gas setup over hikes up to 3-4 days, and it's cheaper! Alcohol's downside is its unsuitability for more serious cooking - that's gas territory.
You're dead right about the other stuff, particularly the pack. My journey to a lighter load began 8 years ago with ditching my 2.7kg Berghaus monster in favour of the 1.kg Nigor pack I'm still using today.
Hi 👋🏻 and you have some good points. But still you have to be measuring the alcohol for it to be lighter and really have a good wind protection and keep the consumption to a bare minimum like 10-13 grams or something for boiling 2 cups or about 400 ml. Sometimes difficult to do.. but also possible so let’s call it plausible 😄 if one like alcohol then use it , it still not recommended to be used inside a tent, still more risk than gas, I believe. And yep… the Trangia alcohol bottle is super heavy 😄 don’t know why I bought it to begin with, bad purchase for sure!! But very safe bottle that are easy to use.
Let’s just agree to disagree 🤷🏼♂️😄 that’s also ok.
Glad you liked the rest and agree! 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh We wouldn't want to agree about everything! My alcohol setup is based around the Evernew 900ml Ti pot and consists of a Speedster 30ml Burner (12g), aluminium Cone (35g - titanium would be even lighter), homemade foil Base (9g) and Vargo 227ml Fuel Bottle (30g). I boil 750ml water twice a day which uses 25-30ml alcohol each time, at 0.8gram per 1ml so a little under 50g fuel per day.
So, ignoring my pot, mug, spoon and firelighter, this comes to a total of 230g for a three-nighter and 280g for a four-nighter. A standard small gas cartridge (full) weighs around 200ml, to which you must add the 87g weight of your Soto Windmaster burner, so you can see that my claim of my alcohol setup being lighter than your gas setup for trips of up to 3-4 days is based on proper data. If you get yourself the Vargo fuel bottle which is see-through and graduated you'll find it's far, far, easier to measure fuel than gas ever can be - this is one of the advantages of alcohol, because you know exactly how much you've got left at all points in your hike.
@@davids9549 I have to check the Speedster out 👍🏻 and like I said in the video “if your not into it I don’t recommend alcohol stoves” which you clearly are and know what to and how to use it to be as efficient as possible 👍🏻 then it’s an as good option as anything else. But remember…Esbits are even lighter 😉…😄
Jokes aside. You have a great set for your alcohol system and yea, for a short trip like that… like an extended weekend trip it’s also lighter. I give you that 🙂
Just bought used Kajka75 to lug around my synthetic bag and trangia27.
My winter setup when I don't hike very far for camping. Maybe couple longer weekend hikes.
I'll go more UL when it gets warmer.
Thank you Robert. Always excellent advice.
Thanks 🙏🏻 glad to hear you liked it Emma 🙂
I love Trangia but I totally agree that a titanium pot and a micro gas stove is a better option for backpacking.
Yeah there is nothing wrong with Trangia and for bigger family’s it’s great if you want to really cook for shorter trips or just spending some time outdoors. But like you say, for backpacking a gas stove is much lighter, smaller and more efficient.
Keep it up Robert! Your videos are great!
😀🙏🏻 thanks a lot!!!
Great video! Beautiful shots!
Thanks, glad you liked it !! 🙂 I enjoy your videos too… good quality content 👍🏻 I can also confess I got the inspiration for this episode from you 😄 so thanks! 🙏🏻
@@roberthammenrudh the thumbnail looked familiar. That’s what caught my attention. It’s all good! Hope it’s performing well for you.
Excellent. One question though. In comparing alcohol vs canister, shouldn't weights of fuel-containers be included? Empty canisters weigh roughly 5oz vs empty alcohol at less than 1oz? Canisters have many advantages, but weight is not one of them? And while Soto is best-in-class, Trangia is possibly worst-in-class?
Hi Tom and yes, you are right about the canisters. But to actually be more efficient using a alcohol stove with a weight saving you nearly need perfect conditions like using only 11-12 grams or something. So you red to measure the amount and then possibly save what you have left. Since it is difficult to cook only when warm and no wind it is most of the time more efficient and lighter using a gas stove that more or less (like the Windmaster) despite conditions use the same amount and like 5-7 grams.
A gas stove is less fuss, less dependent on weather (if using a good one) and more efficient and lighter in the end. That’s my 5 cent anyways 🙂
And no, Trangia is not worst in class…in my opinion it’s the best Alcohol stove out there!! 👍🏻
@@roberthammenrudh - As originally stated, canisters have many other advantages. My capillary alcohol stove weighs 11g. Capillary is the best alcohol design by far. For a guy who trashes old technology, it seems odd you'd back one of the most outdated alcohol designs out there? That said, canister's are the law in so many places, Windmaster sees the most trail-time.
@@tomnoyb8301 yeah 😄, I know much lighter stoves exists but like the fact Trangia comes with a lid so you can save remaining fuel. Windmaster is king 👑🙂👍🏻
Apart from being one of the best dressed youtube backpackers , you videos are 10/10 .
Wow, thanks 😀! Great to hear! 🙂
You make puffy jackets look good 😊
😄 thanks for that! 👍🏻
you can buy a gasstove for trangia :) - most people how use them do so - its a bit hard to cook for 4 people a bit more advanced dishes with a soto and a small pot - they are for different purposes - so yes, you shouldnt use a trangia for solo hiking, but for group outdoor camps its a great stove.
You are absolutely right, one of the things I didn’t talk about. But for 1 or 2 it’s a real bulky and heavy weigh solution and since it’s mainly famous for its alcohol stove and not the gas. 🤷🏼♂️
I will do a video later this spring focusing more on stove solutions for one or more and what to recommend. Also for those doing a bit more cooking than just boiling water, or fry an egg.
Think you are missing the point with Trangia. They are an extremely heavy and outdated setup. Every part is so much heavier than those made out of titanium. You can pretty much cut half the weight by choosing a modern titanium pot/pan configuration even for a big family cook out. If you have big pots you can have the freestanding burner that can handle the load instead of the Soto windmaster. That option is also about half the weight and price of Trangias version. You save space, weight and money! ;-)
@@robertgustavsson1920 do you have a link for a cook system for half the weight and price with 2 pots, pan and wind screen ? :) that is as easy to use - so we are looking for 350 grams - 2”x1l pots and pan and full windshield and burner for 30 eur
Tack för en god och lärosam underhållning till min fredagskväll! //Joy
Great vid. ⛺👍
Thanks 🙏🏻🙂
I remember seeing a young student in a shop being fitted for a bag for a trek in Asia, she weighed about 7st and the rucksack they recommended was 80litre 2.5kg....i had to bite my lip!...🙄...that blue hoody you're wearing.... Polartec Alpha?...🤔...
In a situation like that it’s hard not to just go over there and say HEY 👋🏻 , just stop 🛑 😄 and point them in a another direction!! Yep, the blue one is a Senchi Designs Lark Hoodie I bought and received a coupling of weeks ago. So far loving it, 127 gram and about the same warmth as my old ones. I will do a review and a Fleece comparison video a bit later when used it on a couple of hikes!
@@roberthammenrudh you will be on the road to financial ruin, I got hooked and now have six 😆. Alpha is brilliant for active use, so breathable...and really comfy for sleeping in. You'll love it.👌
@@mfinn4463 sounds promising 👍🏻, beside the financial bit 😄 have you noticed a big difference between different brands when it come to Alpha, regarding warmth and durability ?
@@roberthammenrudh not really, the main noticeable difference is the weight of Alpha in the different garments, 60, 80, 90 etc. I find 90 can be bit too warm sometimes from for the conditions but it will depend how hot you get when active. Certainly more versatile than say a grid fleece top either way. Brand wise no real difference though. Its a surprisingly durable fabric for something that feels a bit fragile.
@@mfinn4463 thanks 🙏🏻 the Lark Hoodie is in 90 if I read correctly, so far it doesn’t feel much warmer than my micro fleece options but the breathability is super high! So probably needs to put on a windbreaker a bit sooner than normal… just hope I will not overheat 😄
Tack för bra tips !
Nice Polartec Alpha shirt!
Yeah. It’s a Senchi designs. Got it last week and are trying it out a bit. Love it so far. 🙂
@@roberthammenrudh Nice, I have the Macpac Nitro and Norröna Falketind. I prefer the thin one (Macpac). Had them for years. They are really awesome. If you move a lot you can actually layer them and get a really good ventilation and heat combo.
What is the light blue hoody you are wearing?.
Hi 👋🏻, it’s the Senchi Designs Lark Hoodie in Polartec Alpha. Bought it like a week or two ago and love it so far… but before a review I need to use it a bit more and out on the trail.
3:54 Let’s not brush alcohol stoves away so quickly Ref: Evernew Appalachian set 160g
You’re right, just not a good “first choice” in my opinion.
Tusen gånger bättre än Dan Beckers videos. Hans blir sämre och sämre, dina blir bättre och bättre :)
Stort tack för det 🙂 Dan är ju en legendar i dessa sammanhang så det tar jag till mig med glädje 🙏🏻😊
Avoid hammocks! That's a gateway to bushcrafting
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Yes , There are some better options but sometimes you can't improve on the time tested and proven ones.
Trangia is time tested and has been around forever. You don't need the whole outfit , just the burner and a small folding stand for it with a windscreen. It's quiet , easy to use and there is nothing to break down like gas stoves love to do.
One step further , combine it with a small titanium wood burning stove ( Folding , Firebox Nano / titanium 4 ounces ) you have the best of both worlds , alcohol or wood to cook with. I use a ****Evernew titanium alcohol burner ( 1.83 ounces ) in mine. By combining them , ( titanium burner , titanium stove ) they weigh a total of 5.83 ounces.
Titanium cools a lot faster then any other metal so you can pack up and go sooner. For the most part I take life easy on the trail. A wood burning stove is practical and saves on fuel since it's all around me , I hammock camp. If I'm in a hurry for a quick hot beverage , the alcohol stove as the heat source.
Sleeping pads , I have been using a Therm-a-Rest self inflating mummy style , full length for 30 years or longer. It's never touched the ground , I like it 3/4 inflated in any of my Hammocks.
**** The Evernew burner is the same size as the Traditional Brass Trangia.
The same can be said for any piece of gear "I've been using this for x years and it hasn't given me problems" gas stoves are just as reliable as any other stove, yes even the cheap chinese brs stove, as long as you don't bend them and even then it's an easy fix.