British Army's bold move to revolutionise initial training for recruits

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  • The British Army's new updated training system - the Soldier Academy - will allow recruits greater flexibility to transfer between cap badges and roles.
    Recruits scattered across different locations now follow a common 13-week schedule, which is also constantly updated to address worldwide threats.
    Brigadier Andrew Garner, who heads up the academy, told Forces News the Army is also changing the way the training is delivered.
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  • @johnallen7807
    @johnallen7807 หลายเดือนก่อน +486

    Get rid of Capita so there are enough recruits to train! they have not hit their target in the 10+ years they have had the contract. The drop out rate is terrible as the average time to join is 10 months!

    • @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
      @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      The recruiting process is so long and convoluted, it's been 12 months from applying to getting my start date. People want to join but you have to be dead set on joining to go through the full process. If the army wants to recruit more people they should make the joining process more streamlined.

    • @johnallen7807
      @johnallen7807 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 Which was my point! What do Capita know about the realities of service life anyway. I'm an ex Para, we are always looking for good men.

    • @abishuajack7108
      @abishuajack7108 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It’s time to get rid of capita cause I wanna join and they holding back many young people like me from the commonwealth to join the British armed forces man…

    • @Christopher_S
      @Christopher_S หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Couldn't have put it better myself. The length of time potential recruits have to wait is really off-putting. During their wait, they usually end up finding a job, getting a friend group, going out on a weekend and like that lifestyle.
      If the process was quicker, they wouldn't have that chance to find their jobs or get into a routine of the 9-5. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to find a job, but I am saying that if they want the numbers in basic training, it's got to be faster. Capita are a waste of space in whatever they "do" for our country.

    • @johnallen7807
      @johnallen7807 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@Christopher_S Call me cynical but I wonder if it's government policy? in 2010 the Army was 100000, now the target is 72600. All we have had from the Conservatives is constant cuts so maybe making recruitment difficult helps their aim? Look at Shapps, no military experience yet he says we will increase defence spending to 2.5% IN SIX YEARS TIME! We need 3% NOW and for the next 10yrs just to repair the damage.

  • @JPB-zu6wd
    @JPB-zu6wd หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    MPs gave the Recruiting process to Capita, a French company who sleeps with every MP in Britain.

    • @floriangeyer3454
      @floriangeyer3454 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Parliamentary Democracy" is rule of the wallet. Period.

    • @davidfiler7439
      @davidfiler7439 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow! So what does this French company look like, blond?

    • @VanderlyndenJengold
      @VanderlyndenJengold หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidfiler7439 Blonde, tall with a smashing pair - the holy grail. Bless her.

    • @thetruthhurts7675
      @thetruthhurts7675 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@davidfiler7439 Useless is the answer. My son wanted to join the RAF, after Capita lost his medical documents for which he charged them through a court for the cost of replacement papers, and then twice lost all of his papers he went to university. He is now a Junior CEO of Microsoft for Europe, based in the Tech centre of Europe in southren England!

    • @jameskellard5075
      @jameskellard5075 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And mess up every contract they get! Yet still the government throw more money at them, one has to wonder why

  • @fludblud
    @fludblud หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    My grandfather in law was 15 when he tried to join, recruiter sussed him out and told him to walk three times around the block and try again and he was in. Ended retiring 40 years later a Lieutenant Colonel. I assure you if Capita was handling it he wouldve been stuck for years and just given up like thousands of recruits today, depriving Britain of an excellent soldier when the nation needed him most in WW2.
    The issue isnt standards as they used to be FAR lower, the issue is that recruits today are actively being prevented from even entering selection through the malicious incompetence of a private company loyal only to its shareholders instead of the nation that is entrusting them the future of its security. The British military should be handling its own recruitment full stop.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Spot on. Bring back the Recruitment Offices, where the blokes can talk to serving and experienced soldiers, sailors and airmen. Do all their medicals and box ticking and be in within a few months. (Bet it would be cheaper too.)

    • @fludblud
      @fludblud หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnnunn8688 Indeed, that being said not everything is the fault of Capita. I've been told that the recruiting and retention shortfalls in the Army specifically in combat roles are being magnified due to a more than insignificant portion of potential recruits and current personnel opting to go fight in Ukraine instead.

    • @Samuel-hd3cp
      @Samuel-hd3cp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who told you that and just how gullible are you?

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Samuel-hd3cp you might want to learn how to reply to someone.

    • @alanfrost4661
      @alanfrost4661 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And only recruiting british . foreigners not a good idea in your army

  • @chrismolyneux4577
    @chrismolyneux4577 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

    Dear diary Corporal shouted at me today for bombing up my magazine backwards I need a cuddle with the padre 😂

    • @britishtommy157
      @britishtommy157 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @damianhomer9933
      @damianhomer9933 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

    • @jmalloy2202
      @jmalloy2202 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You missed out the bottom lip trembling when shouted at 😂😂😂😂

    • @petedalton
      @petedalton หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅😂

    • @Beauloqs
      @Beauloqs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I started my basic in Nov 1983, with something called 'boating weekend'.........I can only imagine the reaction to those fun & games today 😂😂

  • @MC14may
    @MC14may หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    So everyone gets an Ipad to whistleblow when needed....got it!!😂

  • @andybanov4319
    @andybanov4319 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Sounds like a children's school not a military training camp

    • @purpledye1351
      @purpledye1351 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Some people do enlist right after finishing school because they have poor grades.

    • @Sam-nx9ec
      @Sam-nx9ec หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The old and bold complained about Shorncliffe when it was opened.

    • @HenryKlausEsq.
      @HenryKlausEsq. หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Such a sad take. The military want recruits, and they can bring people up to the minimum requirement to go through the 13 week test. It sounds like investing in your people. If they're willing to give their lives for country you can at least invest in them.

    • @andybanov4319
      @andybanov4319 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HenryKlausEsq. More likely cost others lives if they cannot complete the existing basic training

    • @HenryKlausEsq.
      @HenryKlausEsq. หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@andybanov4319 Failure to understand on your part: they are brought up to minimum standard to engage in the 13 week training -- if they are unable to complete that 13 week training successfully then they don't make the cut. It's a way to extract the maximum amount of competent recruits by coaching to a baseline. It's how school works.

  • @robertmiller1299
    @robertmiller1299 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    Pay the troops more - to get the large numbers we need.

    • @sherdyso
      @sherdyso หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      very true, soldiers are paid same as a school cleaner, that won't encourage people to join so no wonder we're short on numbers

    • @ryanredmond5559
      @ryanredmond5559 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It doesnt work like that🤷🏻‍♂️ if they gave every one amazing money there would be to many trying to join i think the money is good 23k after trying with incremental pay rises every year plus pay rises every year, and not to mention the promtions and pay that comes with promotions it lit pays to not be lazy in the army

    • @sayfolman7752
      @sayfolman7752 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Open Recruitment For Civilian From Commonwealth Nation Not Just For Gurkha For You It Small Salary For Us It Big Salary If We Send Home

    • @loganfore
      @loganfore หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sayfolman7752can’t they do that already?

    • @SodaPrezsing
      @SodaPrezsing หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sayfolman7752 Why not just hire more Gurkhas? They got much higher physical standards than commonwealth recruits

  • @georgereed1568
    @georgereed1568 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    When I joined, I was living in a B&B, I was essentially homeless, I needed the Army as I had no way out of the misery I had created for myself. The military gave me 2 things a future and a chance to prove myself. I dont know if this training is better or not, but it's of absolute importance that the military remains a beacon of hope for young men/women, not just another easy target.

    • @CoachHartley
      @CoachHartley หลายเดือนก่อน

      That makes no sense, you are suggesting that because we have a failed society that doesn't support the most vulnerable people in need it's important the army is there to exploit them?
      Yes we need an army, and I have a lot of respect for all our armed forces, but anyone in your situation has been failed and we should work to prevent it from happening rather than praising a system that exploits them.

    • @georgereed1568
      @georgereed1568 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @CoachHartley Society had its part to play for sure but I felt given that I had chosen to ignore all the half decent people in my life, is why I ended up in poverty. I dont think society was failing me. I was failing society. The army gave me a second chance and was exactly what I needed, I was grateful for the skills it gave me and the opportunities. Society isn't to blame for my rebellious heart, and the army took a risk on trusting me with such a responsibility as that of a soldier.

    • @Sam-nx9ec
      @Sam-nx9ec หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@CoachHartley No such thing as a free lunch.

  • @johnbaxter8569
    @johnbaxter8569 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    As an old ex soldier, i want to make a comment, but it just might upset a few people, so i will shut up and reflect...

    • @VanderlyndenJengold
      @VanderlyndenJengold หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Time's have changed. At some point we might find out fighting is so stupid we won't have soldiers!
      I hope their corporal who has to read the iPad stuff is chosen carefully... "Corp, I love soldiering yet I can't do weekends, sorry".

    • @johnbaxter8569
      @johnbaxter8569 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @VanderlyndenJengold I am afraid that will never happen. History has taught us that. So we just carry on and try and protect what we have...

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a bigot you mean.

    • @larrydickman5936
      @larrydickman5936 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just spit it out. A combatant must never hesitate.
      Spill the beans , Sir !

    • @johnbaxter8569
      @johnbaxter8569 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @zoiders you don't understand, and you certainly don't know what i mean...

  • @paulnicholson1545
    @paulnicholson1545 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    times may have changed but the reality and consequences of war have not.... I joined the RM at 16 in 1982.... 54 started training and only 9 finished but we were ready to fight. The military should not change to accommodate cultural trends... a job in the military cannot be equated to a job in a Fortune 100 company

    • @CoachHartley
      @CoachHartley หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That level of attrition is entirely the problem. So much of the culture and attitude within the armed forces had held them back and the country back. It's outdated and a joke.

    • @Sam-nx9ec
      @Sam-nx9ec หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Training's always changed with the times. The old men complained when Shorncliffe opened to teach the light infantry. Quite a few of the General Staff thought rifles would never take off.

    • @biggiouschinnus7489
      @biggiouschinnus7489 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sam-nx9ec Similar story in WWII. Young men raised in the 1920s-30s couldn't be trained in the same way that men raised in the 1890s-1900s were, as the Army learned to its cost.

  • @alexandermaxwell2955
    @alexandermaxwell2955 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Absolutely pish! More deterioration of basic standers actually doing the young soldiers a disservice. They will crumble in combat. Start with problem No.1 Capit Recruitment its failed from day 1. Simplify the process and recruit more soldiers then take the best.
    Train hard fight easy!

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Alexander.
      The military and what is involved in life in it is no longer centre stage as when I was young.
      Frankly this seems like a good initiative. A month or so extra to ensure recruits can reach the fitness and other criteria is small price to pay for a higher retention rate.

    • @CoachHartley
      @CoachHartley หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The traditional model used in training military has been so comical outdated for so long. This won't be perfect, but the net result will be more competent personnel.

    • @Wakey585
      @Wakey585 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kaneclements7761 also considering that more kids are physically unfit now as they were 30-40 years ago, gradually building up the pace of training so that we don't physically break keen recruits due to stress fractures and pulled ligaments helps retention, and builds more physically resilient soldiers.

    • @ad_astra5
      @ad_astra5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaneclements7761plus mental health, at least in the US, is a massive issue in the military. If all this helps make people better it seems worth a try.

  • @Anon254
    @Anon254 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Train hard, fight easy

  • @Rascal-of-War
    @Rascal-of-War หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They need to change or increase the DAOR window. The window closes just as training starts to actually simulate real soldiering. Around week 14 or 15.
    Those that change their mind or are discovered to be unsuitable for the job are then stuck, and subsequently become total dead weight for the Army to carry until they either get medically discharged, kicked out for being unworkable or worse pass out and go to Batallion. The latter option made possible by crusty old officers who want to meet recruitment quotas rather than produce good soldiers.
    To deliver high quality training you need good quality recruits to take part. Not TikTok warriors who have been on the biff most of their Army career.

  • @ripstop5122
    @ripstop5122 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The job of the armed forces is to kill the enemy faster and in more numbers than the opposing side….its harsh but true! It needs people who embrace a challenge and endure hardship. This modern approach seems so weak. I went through guards depot in 89. We lost a lot of soldiers during the first few weeks but those that remained were mentally strong and physically fit. The armed forces way of life is hard and you have to be able cope. A harsh basic training gives you a solid foothold as what ever life throws at , can always look back to that and realise you’ve been through worse. I still do to this day!

    • @MalumZeth
      @MalumZeth หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Your missing the simple fact that the Army is struggling to recruit. The demographic that was joining the Army in 89 simply doesnt exist anymore.

    • @thelaundryman9287
      @thelaundryman9287 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MalumZethtrue that

    • @Sam-nx9ec
      @Sam-nx9ec หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were far more people trying to get in, and able to get in without waiting a year, in '89 than now. The Army can either accept that their intake isn't the same quality and make the best of it or end up even more understrength vs paper figures.

    • @alecmartin88
      @alecmartin88 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It turns out most modern people don't wanna sign up to get paid peanuts and then get beasted from day 1.
      The point is that you start by teaching them with dignity and patience, and then ramp up the challenge once they're a bit more securely invested 🤷‍♂️

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The issue is In 1989 a lot of your muckers were a lot fitter joining than most today if we went with the same system of beasting them on tabs and runs every day we’d have squadrons and companies passing out with no bods at times something slower and more progressive as the training goes on helps

  • @Tribune43
    @Tribune43 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lol - would love to see the 'feedback' after the ritual Friday afternoon change parade before your weekend off. Or the usual 'pick a window' morning block inspection. I was on the ground floor and used to watch kit come raining down from the rooms upstairs. Quality memories from yesteryear.

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Friday afternoon weapons cleaning when you’ve got a long weekend and one bod hasn’t cleaned his rifle despite being 6 hrs in

  • @kingsleyhealey1731
    @kingsleyhealey1731 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Pay the troops more for one, and make the recruiting better and faster and have face to face better and have better medical examiners 60% of all applications for the army are rejected because the medical examining is way to strict people are denied for the tiniest of injuries no matter if it happened as a kid or recent and trying to prove you are fit for purpose to continue is a pain for people but not just that make the country worth fighting for again put the military budget up put the pay up and better living conditions for soldiers who live on the bases and alot more...

    • @BrenThen4367
      @BrenThen4367 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ASSUMING THATS WHAT WAS MEANT WITH *SDC

    • @becky2235
      @becky2235 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know recruitment problems? Stop denying people just because they had a accident a decade ago wtf?

  • @Scaleyback317
    @Scaleyback317 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An excellent initiative. A world away from my intro in 1966 which was tough even brutal by comparison but different times requires different approaches - as long as what it turned out at the end of it all is somebody who benefitted and enjoyed their training as much as I did (no matter how many kicks up the arse/whacks/around the head/beastings on the square or in the gym it took to drum the fun into me!) I was fifteen and thrived on it, the harsher it was the more fun it became. A few dropped out, most learned to cope/laugh their way through it all no matter how miserable we, perhaps should have been about it all.
    I wonder how effective another initiative along similar lines might be for any youngster wishing to offer themselves up for an easy going, fun but informative 12 weeks on pay and board basis might be for youngsters finding themselves at a lose end, bored, inquisitive, a sense of duty with no strings attached and no pressure to sign up at the end of it might be. Could it offer us a few thousand at the end of it willing to commit to a further conversion course and serve as a professional? Could it offer us thousands more, kept on a register, who had already done 12 weeks basic so in the csae of a full mobilization there would be that number who would need to just attend an updating/reminder course in order to be of military use should the brown stuff hit the air oscillation implement? Some may be interested enought to join a reserve unit or bite the bullet, more will at least be of minimal use if and when that unhappy times comes. I suspect it's only a matter of time before it does.

  • @KaneAdamstv
    @KaneAdamstv หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    What has happened to the armed forces 😢

    • @haroldvonschwartzenstien3581
      @haroldvonschwartzenstien3581 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      They are moving forward and modernising?

    • @ryanm7097
      @ryanm7097 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Cameron and Osborne defunded it. Hasn't recovered since

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They have beards in the RAF, including an officer who dresses in female officer uniform.

    • @garydonoghue4565
      @garydonoghue4565 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@haroldvonschwartzenstien3581 I don’t even think there is a basic English requirement now to join.. which is evident from this video

    • @haroldvonschwartzenstien3581
      @haroldvonschwartzenstien3581 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garydonoghue4565 well, that's not true at all.

  • @jameskellard5075
    @jameskellard5075 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Have they cut phase one training from 15 weeks to 13?

    • @naethanc764
      @naethanc764 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was only 14 weeks, now it's 13. The main thing they've removed is AT.

    • @jameskellard5075
      @jameskellard5075 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@naethanc764 Thanks, AT? I'm a bit out of touch

    • @naethanc764
      @naethanc764 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jameskellard5075 Adventurous training, stuff like kayaking, caving, rock climbing etc.

    • @jameskellard5075
      @jameskellard5075 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@naethanc764 Thanks, I should have known but I've been out 11 years.

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@naethanc764believe scary enough that they have also cut down on counter EOT lessons

  • @averagejoeveteran2043
    @averagejoeveteran2043 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Regiments, Corps and Battalions are all commenting on the same issue with recruits out of training.
    They’re not fit or ready when they leave training. All are implementing training programs to retrain the trainees.
    Better identification or recruitment, remove EDI, increase the standards. Supplementally increase the wage in line with civilian standards and implement better benefits and perks for serving personnel. i.e discounted energy prices, fuel costs, access to higher education and finally but most importantly a true transitional training program that will enable a better future for service personnel into civilian life.

  • @nucman7529
    @nucman7529 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Sounds like reducing requirements

  • @LJdeatz01
    @LJdeatz01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This will help alot of guys its good to see.

  • @BOYSURGZicosman
    @BOYSURGZicosman หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I join British army or reserve, I have always wanted to be a soldier right from child hood, However, I have got some little eye problem, ptosis, I hope I can still serve.

    • @s2mbro54
      @s2mbro54 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I were you, I'd speak to the army's recruitment office, you can do this by email or phone.

  • @caucasianbulldog6057
    @caucasianbulldog6057 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    I think this is a good initiative personally. Too many who have a soldier in them are rejected too early because their adjustment is slower. If the army persists with them they will get a soldier out of them; and remember they are always training throughout their army careers.

    • @zytoses9223
      @zytoses9223 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed, not sure the ard nuts who use their gf's as punch bags will though.

    • @DraxTheDestroyer
      @DraxTheDestroyer หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      this

    • @tacitplague7079
      @tacitplague7079 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've been through the program it's awful they just truncated the old course and added a bunch of online admin for us to do which put more time strain on and already too short course so parts of the training had to be cut

    • @JohnDoe-mv5jm
      @JohnDoe-mv5jm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Basic training is 13 weeks, how long should the Army keep flogging a potential recruit in the hope that they will eventually make a soldier out of them? It's all about cost versus reward. Basic training already gets troops to the bare minimum standard, its then up to the regiment or Bn.

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JohnDoe-mv5jm Ref: RM Lympstone. During the early 2000s, Iraq and Afghan people who would have been binned because of injury and other stuff were kept on supported.
      Consider the length of the training course the Army is providing to the guys from Ukraine. It is down to the time British infantry had in 1944 because of casualties after D-Day.
      Nobody failed in 1944.
      Plus Ukraine is fielding soldiers in their 40s and 50s. One of the guys we trained on Challenger is / was 70.

  • @weltybread6124
    @weltybread6124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agression is a key part of pushing yourself during an exercise,not cuddles and wingeing about your feelings

  • @TXMEDRGR
    @TXMEDRGR หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Oh yeah, they look ready for WWIII.

  • @Sarge-fs8gb
    @Sarge-fs8gb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They forgot to mention they wear fluffy slippers on tabs now and their CEFO is full of duck feathers. The British army were renowned across the world as having the best trained soldiers, the best discipline, the fittest and for being fearless in battle.
    These recruits today will fail at battalion, if they are able to ask to take 2 weeks out of training to feel better then how are they going to cope in actual battle or on a course like SCBC or PSBC, unless they've now made those courses easier as well. Our army is the smallest its ever been, what they need is the very best people in those jobs, not box tickers. Standards are dropping, they don't like recruiting lads from council estates anymore and that makes a huge difference to the toughness and robustness of today's soldiers. I was a Plt Sgt at an ITB in the 1990's and i joined the army in 1980, and the soldiers were pushed hard in their trade training (infantry), my son is a SNCO in one of the Para battalions and he's seen it first hand in other regiments, how pathetic some of the 'soldiers' act on operations, he called them embarrassing, so far the para's have been spared all this nonsense because they still have P Coy and still have training that's harder then the infantry, but for how much longer, when labour get in they'll shrunk it even more and fill it up with the illegals that have occupied our country, the army needs someone with balls who ain't thinking about their future awards and jobs in the city, they need someone who will speak up NOW and tell the government diversity and making the army smaller isn't fit for purpose, don't wait until they are out and say something as that's meaningless as they have no power once a civvy, Army, be the best,

  • @Beauloqs
    @Beauloqs หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Given my first 4 are 2472......i dont know whether this makes me want to weep.........or puke.

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see the WTSS in action.

  • @jacobs3031
    @jacobs3031 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is just off putting why would you want to join the army to play about with an ipad to give feedback 😂

    • @aaaa-xf3hx
      @aaaa-xf3hx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dev-sc4hu Apply, get through the assessment centre then if you still don’t want to join when the job offer is in your hands, fair enough.
      Don’t be the bloke in a pub in 10 years saying ‘yeah I would’ve joined the army but *insert excuse*’

    • @mush825
      @mush825 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dev-sc4huarmies full of pussies now lad but there’s still good disciplined fit blokes, just be one of them and stand above the rest.

  • @trs4u
    @trs4u หลายเดือนก่อน

    iPad / app - anyone implementing anything this way in 2024 (unless it's for an actual iPad strapon accessory) should be encouraged to try a career other than IT. 1:03 appears to show an URL at the top of a browser. Is it really a web application - as it should be - so it could run on any device?

    • @StinkyGoblin
      @StinkyGoblin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it can but not everone has a decent phone to do training packages on,

    • @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01
      @Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's an app on defense gateway, I'm guessing the iPads are issued because not everyone may have a phone with data to access it so it makes it more accessible

  • @iaingreig9685
    @iaingreig9685 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Nurture rather than train?!

    • @StinkyGoblin
      @StinkyGoblin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      train in not select out

    • @SenorTucano
      @SenorTucano หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😮

    • @SamuelBlack84
      @SamuelBlack84 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not very helpful, considering they're designed to kill people

    • @silver4831
      @silver4831 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SamuelBlack84That's a very ignorant view of the armed forces. A tiny % of it actually has direct combat roles.

  • @MarkARhodie
    @MarkARhodie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why change the training, have recruits changed?

  • @rimedrihen6054
    @rimedrihen6054 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So let's get poorer quality troops, in summary, so they can hit their recruiting criteria,
    Rather sad to see such downgrade on the force.

    • @susbrody5983
      @susbrody5983 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mate you can't expect to fight a near peer competitor with only 200k soldiers .

  • @alexlanning712
    @alexlanning712 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you cant make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

  • @thegibbos9732
    @thegibbos9732 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if they do but I think they need to incorporate new elements to basic. Including more CQB, trench & drone warfare.

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Trench is still done by the infantry as is CQB if it’s needed it will normally be done at ITT infantry probably have it the hardest in that regard because phase 1 and ITT are the same

  • @stephentaylor2119
    @stephentaylor2119 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A caring, cuddly fluffy army

  • @gameram6382
    @gameram6382 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I Just hope you told the Enemy to use the approach of soft and gentle to nurture your soldiers.

  • @jasonmckay2769
    @jasonmckay2769 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Anyone that calls themselves a good soldier after learning how to load a gun and shoot down range needs a reality check.

    • @thegibbos9732
      @thegibbos9732 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Give her a break at least she is keen and interested in bettering herself as a recruit

    • @justachipn3039
      @justachipn3039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegibbos9732 🤣🤣

    • @pusser9789
      @pusser9789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Embarrassing

  • @feolender2938
    @feolender2938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who went through both British army and royal marines commando training in the 90's I lolled out loud at this.

  • @vitaliyvyntu4566
    @vitaliyvyntu4566 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You

  • @gadgetgus
    @gadgetgus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Taylored individual training to help differentiate their development is better in the long-term, as recruits will appreciate it initially and so are more likely to promote Army life to others.
    Thanks for sharing.
    🇬🇧

  • @TheCCBoi
    @TheCCBoi หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm confused, is this basic training or officer training? In the past, why would each training center have it's own unique standards and schedules?

    • @wargey3431
      @wargey3431 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn’t apart from Catterick

  • @Culbokie_croft
    @Culbokie_croft หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Equality of outcome seems to beat meritocracy. It will be good to know that your oppo might fold under pressure when it counts.

    • @StinkyGoblin
      @StinkyGoblin หลายเดือนก่อน

      wheres the equality of outcome here?

  • @steveclancy6474
    @steveclancy6474 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The rate it is going it will be 1:1 training.
    The 1 person left training the the 1 guy taking over from him, her or even them.

  • @stevenatkinson4526
    @stevenatkinson4526 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Work hard and you will be rewarded tuff routine and structure and discipline makes a good soldier there to pampered now a day's 😅

  • @eventingcrazy
    @eventingcrazy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If only the RN had worked this out twenty years ago. I loved service life. I just hated the job I was "guided" into.

  • @Chrisnylan
    @Chrisnylan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Presumably the route for the non-combat roles (everyone needs to be able to fight if needed. I know - calm down) but realistically this Ipad trained cohort wont get anywhere near a tactical deployment. And think of the elimination of the 'it was harder in my day' argument from the cuddle REMFs after they have left.

  • @mattwright2964
    @mattwright2964 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lot of issues to consider but it seems to me that we could be in a pre-war phase. By the time we end up in a full blown war the forces accept a wider intake and are glad of their support (many become 'heroes' in the eyes of society). Perhaps there is a middle ground in between, a role for the army to be more open minded. I think though swift recruitment and proper pay and conditions are other factors. I appreciate if you have already been through very tough selection and training you are likely to be defensive of that and perhaps a little resentful of any apparent easier ride.

  • @simposayerman
    @simposayerman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never mock or criticise the way the British Army recruitment training functions in this day and age! Reason being is that we are always going to evolve and adjust to today’s society and HM forces has to deal with that especially from threats around the globe !
    Looking back on my basic training as an army recruit in the 80’s , I never could understand why we spent most of our time doing area cleaning ( picking up litter ) and fatigues , albeit removal men lol
    How this made you a good soldier was beyond me !!

    • @shannonhenson609
      @shannonhenson609 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It teaches attention to detail.

    • @AHSP483
      @AHSP483 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It teaches you to obey orders even if you don’t like it. ( discipline) matters on the battlefield.
      Keeping your areas clean will prevent rats and other pests from getting into your accommodation (harbour area) thus preventing soldiers going down which in turn make you a liability not an asset to your battalion.
      Teaches soldiers to work together to achieve a mission.
      Bring soldiers together. I remember always having a chat as we walk to do areas
      There are loads of reasons

  • @Kiwiboy1929
    @Kiwiboy1929 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hope this lot never have to fight the Russians

  • @euskryhtbnfvse4i7ehs4hnvf
    @euskryhtbnfvse4i7ehs4hnvf หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crate for that label stuck up @0:37

  • @kestrel5065
    @kestrel5065 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My recruitment took half a day retired as a Lt Col🤷‍♂

  • @shampoo-supernova
    @shampoo-supernova หลายเดือนก่อน

    If it works it works. As long as all meet the standard.

  • @Ben-fk9ey
    @Ben-fk9ey หลายเดือนก่อน

    It makes sense, if you throw people who can't swim in the deep end on day 1 then it's quite likely they'll quit. If you teach them to swim and then throw them in the deep end it's more likley they'll stay.

  • @Fighting_Fatigue_117
    @Fighting_Fatigue_117 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After the conversation I just had, the British army has had some dangerous people in it in the past!
    Let's hope that these loose cannons aren't as common as they used to be, because once they leave the military they can become a big danger to the public!

  • @nomisekul4969
    @nomisekul4969 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Icl, the psychology of the military does need to change. It's why it's so difficult for ex-servicemen to get out and is a major cause of recruits leaving early on. If we can have a motivated standing army then they will be strong enough to bring much needed change and will have enough power to bring problems with things like bad kit, accommodation, food etc to light.

  • @superfamilyallosauridae6505
    @superfamilyallosauridae6505 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This sounds inconceivable from an American perspective, and, by the looks of the comments, a British perspective too.

  • @robl417
    @robl417 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every recruit is given an ipad to give feedback on training 🙂 As a recruit back in the 70's (in the Rhodesian Army) the feedback only went one way and it wasn't bottom to top that's for sure.

  • @yaseenbradley9829
    @yaseenbradley9829 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Army is meant to be tough.

  • @peterfeeney721
    @peterfeeney721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We could call it a revolutionary name too? CMS(R). Catchy, eh?

  • @joetaylor486
    @joetaylor486 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm, i feel ambivalent about this. I can see that a high washout rate does not serve recruits, training academies or the force in general. Are we salvaging recruits at the expense of preparing them adequately, potentially for the hardest job a human can perform and endure?

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, training needs to be tough. ‘Train hard, fight easy’!

  • @iPrinceHarry
    @iPrinceHarry หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks completely different from even five years ago 😮‍💨

  • @InfernoTV
    @InfernoTV หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Try not losing people's medical papers/details all the time and get rid of capita.

  • @merle1476
    @merle1476 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sign up get on the bus straight to training two weeks later that’s how it should be

  • @henrybuss5994
    @henrybuss5994 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s not enough for them to “survive the 13 weeks” why aren’t RFT’s conducted at basic training? So many new soldiers aren’t MFD and cannot meet the standards. It’s sad to see

  • @wtwarrior7698
    @wtwarrior7698 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A very complicated way to say "get ready, the cold war is going hot"

  • @Denbo75
    @Denbo75 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is it the british army or the Commonwealth Army

  • @god4143
    @god4143 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Our army is going to crumple.

  • @paulkirk5322
    @paulkirk5322 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Being fatigued was always part of Army training to build you up so you were able to cope in real combat situations
    An l Pad is not much use to you in the jungle or desert ?

  • @jrton1366
    @jrton1366 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely this could have been resolved by getting rid of capita and revisiting medical standards. Weren’t 200,000 recruits rejected in the last 10 years by capita? You’re telling me not one of those motivated men was suitable for the armed forces?

  • @Senseigainz
    @Senseigainz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We are soo doomed if we go to war.

  • @shaunbrewer8620
    @shaunbrewer8620 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get rid of out dated BMI system

  • @Eddie.3-rifles2li
    @Eddie.3-rifles2li หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn’t allowed to look screws in eye never mind give feet back on how much sleep I’ve had

  • @vaterunser3879
    @vaterunser3879 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is already lightyears in front of what Germany wants to achieve... Now do drone reconnaissance, fpv drone attacks, mechanical engineering and Britain adapted quite well

  • @drewaf5
    @drewaf5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Things must be so bad now ,the British government can’t even recruit cannon fodder anymore,what are they doing to our once proud country

  • @BLUEY-il3dx
    @BLUEY-il3dx หลายเดือนก่อน

    All teenagers should have to do this when they turn 15

  • @Beauloqs
    @Beauloqs หลายเดือนก่อน

    .........."boating weekend " anyone.😂😂

  • @astonplayshd7522
    @astonplayshd7522 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is our war fighting force.... what on earth, every time they leave their beds they'll have to write a personal evaluation to make sure the sheets weren't offensive or traumatizing

  • @latch9781
    @latch9781 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how every Forces News vid has the same pair of arsecheeks in the comments talking about "intellectual curiosity"

  • @NagiGseesyou2
    @NagiGseesyou2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if this will roll out to reservists too.
    It would also be a GREAT idea to do this for the police... wait, they did and got rid of it.

  • @Hassle68
    @Hassle68 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Posters below are correct with their capitia aren't good, pay, soldiers more etc etc. However, the main issue is the skewe of demographic information that shows recruiting is working via just the online method.
    People used to be able to walk into a high street shop and be recruited, or sometimes collared outside and enticed in, or the police /courts would suggest time in the army. Let's remember we need three types of people, a problem solver that can issue a plan and as it fails on meeting enemy reconstruct several times to meet the intent. People who are theoretical and know how to adapt and overcome to make a job work and street wise young adults who are practical, adaptive, and learn by repetition. So you have officers, trades and infantry. There are exceptions lots of, and i agree, but stick with me. Those infantry soldiers who aren't great on smart phones, a little bit wayward, see threats as they walk back home, want to better themselves but just don't know how. When we give them a 30 page online application we lose them, these people are who we are missing, friends I once joined with that progressed, learnt, grew not only in stature but in people eyes who respected them. But then again what do I know, im not on Colonels wages back briefing him what he wants to hear and saying yes General, your amazing General.

  • @StevenWJRichards
    @StevenWJRichards หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the 80s and before, soldiers got through basic and infantry training because they were too afraid of the drill sergeants not to! The army was a one-way ticket to hell in which death on the battlefield or a heart attack in training were the only honourable ways out before discharge date. For all its faults, it was a tried and tested system because the soldiers were more afraid of the army than the enemy. We don't yet really know how well the new system works against a formidable foe.

  • @afomicworld
    @afomicworld หลายเดือนก่อน

    Open up the common wealth Countries Recruiting Program

  • @jodiphilips4697
    @jodiphilips4697 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Report to the Cpl about how much sleep their getting......... is this for real!

  • @brucegillies4798
    @brucegillies4798 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    hold on stop the war i need so me time.

  • @first--class
    @first--class หลายเดือนก่อน

    should've let me join when i was 15 , shoould have a youth academy

    • @latch9781
      @latch9781 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Army Cadets and Harrogate exist

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty sure Harrogate has taken 15 year olds for years. May be wrong 🤔.

  • @kestrel5065
    @kestrel5065 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try cutting the recruitment process down from 2 years. For an 18yr old 2 years is a very long time they just lose interest.

  • @rhor1882
    @rhor1882 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoever put this video out must have thought this would show the British army in a good light but in watching it I certainly don't see that. Perhaps I'm in the minority but it really just seems like they are lowering standards but trying to make it somehow seem like a positive.
    First of all are the people specifically chosen for the video, that would be worrying if it was the case. "On civvy street you don't have much times to keep to.." What? Not sure where on civvy street this guys been.
    Giving out iPad's to get feedback and to add to a reflective diary, yes feedback is good and reflection for any skill is vital but they are raw recruits what possible insightful and actionable feedback are they going to provide the experienced soldiers training them, preparing them for combat. And this is the army they are there to follow orders you don't try and haggle with what you will or won't be doing.
    At best it just seems like extra admin and therefore expense with the new "my training" system. At worst it's just catering to the feelings of the recruit, what will they say "I'm tired after all that running" and what action do the trainers take? Do they lower standards and point to the information as a reason why? Or they not lower standards and therefore the whole point is lost and money wasted?
    They say they haven't lowered standards then go on to mention before training has even started if someone doesn't make the standard i.e., not having basic organization skills, they then spend extra time effort and resources trying to bring them up to standard...So, now you're just negating the whole sifting process, which again costs lots of money and letting in subpar recruits and giving them extra resources that could be used on those who turned up prepared and with the right skills?
    How about use all of the money that went into developing this new approach, all the systems, equipment staff training and general admin, and then put it towards paying those that pass basic training a decent wage. And if you are having issues getting decent recruits then this might go towards bringing in recruits without compromising on standards. Didn't mean to go on such a rant ha, perhaps I am missing something, it's just sad to see recruits for the British army now being treated as if they are students going to university.

  • @stupitdog9686
    @stupitdog9686 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's up with that rifle sight? It looks like it is corroding away ? Needs some black electrical tape wrapped around it !! or a least a touch up with a black marker felt tip.

  • @josiahfinley9075
    @josiahfinley9075 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ipads and writing down your feelings 😂 ... Wow

  • @paulgee1952
    @paulgee1952 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get the regiments of Drone bot fusiliers done, EW and IT crowd , required to offer effective operational cover to the traditional set up. However the hollowing out and poor government choices also need a nation to be interested in supporting need services , not just self interest, low tax, idle rich .While getting geek training up to pre standard choices is a positive , revolution has to encompass the growing electronic effects in conflicts. The one course fits all, will fail to deliver otherwise?

  • @daffidkane8350
    @daffidkane8350 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    More Progressive! Those words frighten me. Basic training is not day care. This sounds touchy-freely! What happened to Junior Leaders or Boy Soldier programmes?

  • @RoyalDuggars
    @RoyalDuggars 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beards in the Army! So different from the USA

  • @davenewman4596
    @davenewman4596 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear, oh dear oh dear, what is happening!!

  • @milolouis
    @milolouis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think we should outsource the army so that we don't have to do anything but throw money at a massive corporation and then pay them off when they fail.

  • @ianwilson8759
    @ianwilson8759 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There goes the British Army - all cuddly and woke.

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woke! 😂😂😂

  • @BIBIWCICC
    @BIBIWCICC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear how standards have dropped!

  • @TimE-er1kn
    @TimE-er1kn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every Recruit gets an Ipad? And yet the armed forces are screaming saying they don't have enough money. Seems like they get more than enough, they just are incapable of speeding it wisely. We just used pen and paper, and had access to a computer room as recruits/trainees.

  • @martinnicholls5358
    @martinnicholls5358 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m not quite sure about this maybe I’m wrong but are they treating them with kid gloves, Instead of them teaching him how to fight and stay alive and become their battle Ready soldier

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You failed to understand any of this did you? At what stage did they say they weren't being trained to fight? This is a rehab platoon for those that aren't ready to complete trade training (fighting). When they have been rehabilitated they go on to the exact same training as everyone else.

    • @latch9781
      @latch9781 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's basically just unifying all the different Phase 1s into a single course plan while using modern tech to help tailor training to individuals

    • @garagenigel
      @garagenigel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's basic training pal! Not Infantry training centre!

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zoidersit’s not a rehab platoon, it’s initial training. (It’s in the title) I can understand why you are confused because it looks like they are in rehab.
      Unless that was your joke?

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnnunn8688 It's 100% a rehab platoon they have simply renamed it. These particular recruits are being held back from the CMSR and being given extra training to rehabiliate them as trainee soldiers before they will be put back in another platoon on its way to pass out. As you would know if you had ever been through an ATR. They have been doing this for the last 25 years at least in order to improve retention and reduce the PVR rate. "Rehab" is not just about injury it's also used to bring recruits up to standard so they can actually join a platoon at an ATR. That covers many elements from PT to education.