Nice Math Olympiad Problem a^11+b^11=?

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  • @roger7341
    @roger7341 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I don't have any tricks up my sleeve, so I'll just try a=1/2+z and b=1/2-z. Substitute into the second equation: (1/2+z)^2+(1/2-z)^2=1/2+2z^2=2. Thus, z=±√3/2, a=1/2±√3/2 and b=1/2∓√3/2. It is now easy enough to raise a and b to higher powers and cancel out some terms, but I'll leave that as an exercise. I'm guessing that the answer is around 30+29/32 or so.

  • @NadiehFan
    @NadiehFan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My favourite approach to solving these kinds of problems is using recurrence relations. Here is how I solved this problem.
    We are given that a + b = 1, a² + b² = 2 and are required to find the value of a¹¹ + b¹¹.
    As a preliminary remark, note that 2ab = (a + b)² − (a² + b²) = 1 − 2 = −1 so ab = −¹⁄₂. Therefore, (a − b)² = (a + b)² − 4ab = 1² − 4·(−¹⁄₂) = 3 so a and b are real. Let us define
    tₙ = aⁿ + bⁿ
    for any positive integer n, so we have t₁ = 1, t₂ = 2 and want to find the value of t₁₁.
    First, since (aⁿ + bⁿ)(a + b) = (aⁿ⁺¹ + bⁿ⁺¹) + ab(aⁿ⁻¹ + bⁿ⁻¹) we have tₙ·t₁ = tₙ₊₁ + ab·tₙ₋₁ and since t₁ = 1, ab = −¹⁄₂ this gives tₙ = tₙ₊₁ − ¹⁄₂·tₙ₋₁ and therefore
    (1) tₙ₊₁ = tₙ + ¹⁄₂·tₙ₋₁
    so the sequence {tₙ} satisfies a second order linear homogeneous recurrence with constant coefficients.
    Secondly, we have a²ⁿ + b²ⁿ = (aⁿ + bⁿ)² − 2·aⁿbⁿ and therefore
    (2) t₂ₙ = tₙ² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)ⁿ
    Thirdly, we have a³ⁿ + b³ⁿ = (aⁿ + bⁿ)³ − 3·aⁿbⁿ·(aⁿ + bⁿ) and therefore
    (3) t₃ₙ = tₙ³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₙ
    From (2) and the known value t₂ = 2 we get
    t₄ = 2² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)² = 4 − ¹⁄₂ = ⁷⁄₂
    t₈ = (⁷⁄₂)² − 2·(−¹⁄₂)⁴ = ⁴⁹⁄₄ − ¹⁄₈ = ⁹⁷⁄₈
    From (3) and the known value t₁ = 1 we get
    t₃ = 1³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)·1 = 1 + ³⁄₂ = ⁵⁄₂
    t₉ = (⁵⁄₂)³ − 3·(−¹⁄₂)³·(⁵⁄₂) = ¹²⁵⁄₈ + 3·(¹⁄₈)·(⁵⁄₂) = ²⁵⁰⁄₁₆ + ¹⁵⁄₁₆ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆
    Finally, from (1) and using t₈ = ⁹⁷⁄₈, t₉ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ we get
    t₁₀ = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ + (¹⁄₂)·(⁹⁷⁄₈) = ²⁶⁵⁄₁₆ + ⁹⁷⁄₁₆ = ³⁶²⁄₁₆
    t₁₁ = ³⁶²⁄₁₆ + (¹⁄₂)·(²⁶⁵⁄₁₆) = ⁷²⁴⁄₃₂ + ²⁶⁵⁄₃₂ = ⁹⁸⁹⁄₃₂
    Of course it is computationally somewhat more efficient if we consider that for m ≥ n ≥ 0 we also have (aᵐ + bᵐ)(aⁿ + bⁿ) = (aᵐ⁺ⁿ + bᵐ⁺ⁿ) + aⁿbⁿ(aᵐ⁻ⁿ + bᵐ⁻ⁿ) which gives tₘ·tₙ = tₘ₊ₙ + (−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₘ₋ₙ and therefore
    (4) tₘ₊ₙ = tₘ·tₙ − (−¹⁄₂)ⁿ·tₘ₋ₙ
    Using this we only need t₃, t₅, t₆ as stepping stones to calculate t₁₁. Note that (2) is actually a special case of (4) for m = n since t₀ = a⁰ + b⁰ = 1 + 1 = 2.

    • @grchauvet
      @grchauvet 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be my chosen method too

    • @zetutor
      @zetutor  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good Job

  • @glorfindel2740
    @glorfindel2740 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have just 1 problem with the video:
    989/32 is NOT strictly equal to 30.91. Its equal to 30.90625.
    And in math problems, you are required to give the exact, not approximated solution.
    I think you should have just left 989/32. Its fine.

  • @franciscook5819
    @franciscook5819 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Calculate a, b and split the power seems easier ...
    a+b=1 …(i)
    a^2+b^2=2 …(ii)
    Squared => a^2+b^2+2ab=1^2
    So 2+2ab=1
    So b=-1/2a
    Sub into (i) gives two solutions
    a=(1/2) (1+√3) and b=(1/2) (1-√3) (or vice versa)
    Break the power 11 into 8 and 3:
    a^2=(1/4) (1+3+2√3)
    a^2=(1/2) (2+√3) and b^2=(1/2) (2-√3)
    a^3=(1/4) (2+3+(1+2) √3)
    a^3=(1/4) (5+3√3) and b^3=(1/4) (5-3√3)
    a^4=(1/4) (7+4√3) and b^4=(1/4) (7-4√3)
    a^8=(1/16) (49+4.4.3+2.4.7√3)
    a^8=(1/16) (97+56√3) and b^8=(1/16) (97-56√3)
    a^11=(1/64) (97+56√3)(5+3√3)
    a^11=(1/64) (989+571√3) and b^11=(1/64) (989-571√3)
    a^11+b^11=2 (1/64) 989+(1/64) 571√3-(1/64) 571√3
    a^11+b^11=(1/32) 989

    • @zetutor
      @zetutor  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That works

  • @sashagornostay2188
    @sashagornostay2188 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    God bless the graphs and geometry

  • @devanshgupta794
    @devanshgupta794 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When you get a³ + b³, its best to cube them to get a⁹ + b⁹ and then calculate a⁷ + b⁷ by (a³ + b³)² (a+b)
    Then calc a¹¹ + b¹¹ easily
    Less calculation required imo

    • @medoesgames3145
      @medoesgames3145 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      (a³+b³)³ is not a⁹+b⁹

  • @Mecha_Math
    @Mecha_Math 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice🎉

    • @zetutor
      @zetutor  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks

  • @JeffryBezos-oy3nd
    @JeffryBezos-oy3nd หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Is there any other way to do this faster or is this the only way?

    • @liliancourjal4303
      @liliancourjal4303 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What i found is : a≠b as 2(1/2)^2≠2 (rember this it will be useful later) now, we Will be looking at a possibility for a so as a+b=1, a=1-b now, we solve the second equation by remplacing a by 1-b so (1-b)^2+b^2=2, i'll let you solve that as it would be way to long to solve it here. So you should end up with something like (1± sqrt3)/2. By solving 1-(1± sqrt3)/2, we find that a = (1± sqrt3)/2. As b≠a, one will be - and the other +. Now that we have a and b, we can do the calculus in the end easily. If you need me to clarify tell me because i tried to make it as short as i could but you have the main idea

    • @liliancourjal4303
      @liliancourjal4303 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My bad you need a calculator to do my version

    • @RONNIN667
      @RONNIN667 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you can turn the first equation into a = 1-b, then substitue that in the 2nd equation and do the equation and find the result

    • @echandler
      @echandler 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      let f_n = a^n + b^n.
      This forms a 2nd order linear recurrence.
      (a+b)*f_n = a^(n+1) + b^(n+1) + a*b^n + b*a^n.
      Hence f_(n+1) = f_n * f_1 - f_(n-1) * (ab).
      We have f_0 = 2, f_1 = 1, f_2=2 giving (ab)=-1/2
      So f_(n+1) = f_n + (1/2) f_(n-1).
      f_n = {2 1 2 5/2 7/2 19/4 13/2 71/8 97/8 265/16 181/8 989/32 ..}
      Depending on how fast you can do the arithmetic, this method may be faster.

    • @colt4667
      @colt4667 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RONNIN667 It's not easy.
      You get b=1+sqrt 3 and a=-sqrt 3
      OR
      b= 1- sqrt3 and a= sqrt 3
      Then you have to compute a^11 and b^11
      (1+ sqrt 3)^11 yields 12 terms. For example the 8th term is
      11*10*9*8*7*6*5*(11^4)*((sqrt 3)^7) / 7!
      Then collect all the like terms and simplify.
      Professor Zetutor shows us an easier way.

  • @MateusMuila
    @MateusMuila 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Ensavoirmoins
    @Ensavoirmoins 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can easily find a and b through the first couple equations 😅

    • @colt4667
      @colt4667 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tried it and I ended up expanding (1-sqrt 3)^11. It's horrible. I get 12 terms. An example of one is -11*10*9*8*7*6*5*(11^4)*((sqrt 3)^7) / 7!

    • @manpreetkhokhar5318
      @manpreetkhokhar5318 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good luck with sqrt(3) terms.

    • @raynixon6767
      @raynixon6767 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s what I thought, too. Sadly, it doesn’t work.