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Suggestion: Sinking of the Tōya Maru. It sunk in Typhoon Marie in 1954 while crossing the Tsugaru strait. A lot of things went wrong to lead it to being caught in the storm. Of the 1,309 on board, only 150 people survived. 1,159 were lost. This disaster (there were four other sinkings in the same storm) was part of the reason for the construction of the Seikan Tunnel between Hokkaidō and Honshū.
I've had a few unpleasant jobs in my life. I feel fortunate that "transporting molten sulfur on a ship described as a floating garbage can" is not among those jobs.
Let’s see, an old ship that was rush built to be disposable, from a class famed for its fatigue issues (a T2 once snapped in half at anchor), converted to haul a cargo she was never designed for, plagued by cracks, leaks and fires, routinely being sailed into hurricanes. The poor thing probably just fell apart in a swell and was gone before anyone knew what was happening.
Even though I'm in construction. I'm a superintendent for a fairly big job. Watching Brick Immortar and aviation accident investigation channels has helped me improve safety on the site. I started to notice little near misses, or poorly maintained machines that could fail around ground workers. I can get ahead of the "swiss cheese" model and avoid accidents.
I work in healthcare, some of the same lessons and principles apply to this industry too. I’ve used knowledge from channels like this one and Mentour Pilot as the safety representative of my clinic. Learning from near misses, reducing power gradients and conducting drills are proactive steps that pretty much any industry can adopt to increase safety.
As someone who also works in construction, same here. Especially in an our industry which still has so many people that scoff at safety as a joke. These videos have also made a far more informed passenger should I ever find myself in trouble when traveling by sea, land, or air
It's funny how all of us did *some* form of drill throughout school, and yet, once you hit college, any type of drill beyond Someone Set Off The Fire Alarm Again become quite rare, despite the need for practicing how to safely leave during an emergency still being a Major Safety Consideration,
Fiddling w/ BULKHEADS! Cause of the "Titanic" disaster-- to save money, the "clever" ship builders did not construct the bulkheads to the full extent of their potential height. When the iceberg ripped open the starboard hull like a can opener-- seawater rushed in at the bow, filled the first compartment, then LAPPED OVER the height-cheated first Bulkhead into the 2nd Compartment-- on & on toward the stern just as you filling an icecube tray with its mini-bulkheads to allow water into the next chamber before it spills over the side. Same concept. This is why "Titanic" exposed its propellers (Stern) high in the air as she continued to founder.
I wish this channel put out more content, but I would never want you to lessen the quality. When you release a video, I fall asleep to it for a good couple weeks until I understand the full story. These stories, albeit tragic, are my happy place. And when you collaborated with Oceanliner Designs I could’ve cried happy tears. 😂 Never stop!
More frequent content = significantly worse quality. There are so many examples of that, like that bald guy with glasses that has like 12 channels and pumps out videos every day.
That's so funny I have to do the same thing as well but ive watched every video a zillion times. My "favorites" are the ride the ducks ones.BrickImmortar is top tier but I listen to Drachinifel pretty much every single night to fall asleep his British accent makes me fall asleep I think.
@@harryshuman9637 it's pedantic but he's just a "contractor" in the same way voice actors are, the channels just use his image as well. most of the channels ARE absolutely slop but he definitely doesn't own them
I'm flabbergasted by the owner's defense to the lawsuit; how can you say that the lives of the men on your ship are only worth the cargo it carried? You pay them wages, you provide pensions and insurance, you pay for repairs on the vessel itself, but somehow, they're only worth the value of their cargo? Glad the court threw that defense out, what a cold-hearted response to grieving families.
"the lives of the men on your ship are only worth the cargo it carries". Welcome to modern business. Do not inflict discomfort upon the lives of the executive board, peon.
Working on a liquid sulfur carrier sounds like absolute misery. I've worked various industrial jobs processing lumber and fiber cement -- and sure, chipping away solidified cement and fiber really sucks (they ended up contracting it out to a company that used very high power pressure washers and vac trucks for the most dense stuff) -- but I can't imagine it being liquid sulfur that needs to be kept heated and minor leaks turning into major incidents.
Yeah, it sounds like an utterly miserable task to be saddled with, especially when you have to do it with a super early conversion tanker that seems to leak regularly in port and at sea.
Astonishing that 39 people can sail off on a one-way voyage with barely a trace of evidence left behind. Then 50 years later you see the Malaysian flight that disappears and you realize not much has changed. These are vast, remote expanses with no one around to help. This one reminded me of the Texas City fertilizer explosion. Busy industry in S Texas and Louisiana. Sometimes safety doesn't make priority. .
They are making progress with Malaysian Airlines, check out 'Green Dot Aviation - What Netflix got Wrong' for a very likely scenario (when looking at the evidence)
If you know any chemistry, you know how ungodly stupid it was to convert a ship made for carrying fuel oil during a time of war to carry MOLTEN SULFUR mild steel (probably also of poor quality) doesn't like sulfur very much... The omnipresence of water just makes this even stupider... This ship should have never been converted, and given that it was, it should have been scrapped far sooner.
It amazes me how the coast guard kept certifying this death trap, these tankers were made quickly and cheaply and designed for a few years use in the war, very similar to your videos on the “duck boats,” both of these were never meant to be heavily modified decades later for uses they were never designed for. Rest easy for those who were lost, this should never have happened - which is always the theme with these types of videos. Great job as always Sam!
Seriously I was fascinated by Berlitz's "Bermuda Triangle" books as a kid, but now I am amazed how dishonest he was. Not only with this ship but also with a lot of other alleged Bermuda Triangle cases. Of course I was also slightly disappointed when I sailed through it with the german navy and didn't disappear and didn't even see a single UFO ;)
Brick Immortar is the only creator I follow, where when a new video pops up, I ask myself: “ok, can I watch this without any distraction? Or do I need to wait until I can give it my full attention.”
@@swiftyytm I'm eating a snack and making food while my family naps. It took me a couple days but I found the time. Sometimes I even refrain from comments until I'm done. That said, back to it.
With all these sulphur leaks and piles and the frequent fires, it sure sounds like this vessel was a floating _hell_ . Like, literally. Captain Satan: "AHAHAHAHAHA!!"
I like that you're going to do videos on ships lost at sea like this. Many channels do it as well, but you always pull up the investigation reports which might shed some more light onto what may have happened, it's more than just a surface level look.
This is a fantastic presentation. T2's came from my state (Oregon) - they were built within walking distance of my apartment, at Swan Island in Portland. One of them, the brand new Schenectady, broke in half at anchor in calm weather - not surprising Marine Sulphur Queen was lost at sea when she got old. Sylvia L. Ossa was another old T-2 tanker from Swan Island shipyard - after conversion to an ore ship, she went down in a storm in 1976, with 37 men drowned - big tragedy for South America, since the crew was mostly Brazilian and Uruguayan. If a new T-2 could snap in half in port, an old one would be a death trap in bad weather .
I still can't figure out why you wouldn't carry dry sulphur and just melt it at the point of need? What is the economic gain? I mean, to me, this seems as useful and practical as Molten Chocolate carrier vessel, only much worse smelling.
I mean, yeah, it's pumpable on and off, which makes for easier load/offload, but I don't get how it's cheaper to transport than, say, bricks of sulfur, or barrels of sulfur powder, given the cost of having to burn all that fuel to keep it in a liquid state.
@katherinekeller4149 I imagine the calculus on fuel worked out because I doubt they were running the ship at 100% of its rated power all the time, so they would have had excess steam to work with from the boiler.
Your voice is so soothing! Although the content is always horrific in its tragedy, your calm narration eases my OCD/ADHD riddled brain. Thank you for caring about our safety!
Neurodivergent here. I'm not here for the boats, but for the safety investigations. I also like plane and train crashes, industrial accidents, and other disasters that help me explore safety culture, hazard mitigation, and human hubris 😅
Fellow ADHDer, I also came from the algorithm side of aviation industrial accidents rather than marine topics. I’m learning a lot about the subject and appreciate how the channel progressively teaches about different ship types, but I would love a ships 101 type video that broke down the terminology. Though I understand that this audience’s knowledge base likely succeeds that level.
I did a quick google search and found this (from a reputational source in the US from a Uni: "When elemental sulfur comes into contact with a metal surface, it oxidizes to form sulfur dioxide gas. This gas then reacts with water vapor in the air to form sulfuric acid vapor, which can condense on the surface of the metal and lead to localized corrosion." I think it just rusted away in unseen places as the sulphur continually leaked. Awesome video as ever mr Brick
A very good point. As if salt water wasn't corrosive enough. And I'll bet the crew got so used to the smell they never thought beyond it. Apparently no one else did either.
Yes I agree...what we now know of T2 tankers built during ww2 kinda is almost self explanatory....just finishing reading "Finest Hours" too.... And originally heard about the ship through the "Bermuda Triangle" books lol
Thanks for covering this one. There was a similar accident in the 1970s' involving a T-2 tanker that had been converted into a chemical hauler called the V. A. Fogg. In that case the explosion was witnessed by passing aircraft and the wreckage found. If I remember the report correctly the disaster was attributed to faulty cleaning techniques.
I was reading up on this case some time ago. In one article it mentioned when a veteran seaman was being being dropped off at dockside to the Marine Sulpher Queen. He got out of the car, looked the ship over for a few minutes, got back in the car and told his wife to drive them home.
Hard to say honestly, the smell would come and go depending on if you caught a good lungful of the hydrogen sulfide from the tanks- it rapidly induces anosmia and you lose the ability to smell it or other things. The smell for the places it berthed was probably worse because they never got used to it.
I'm sorry, "fires almost constantly burned"? A one-off fire is bad enough, frequent fires is disastrous, but fires to the extent they can be described as "almost constant" is beyond my comprehension.
it seems like the ship was leaking so much from so many places that they just stopped caring about it, they stay silent not to loose the jobs and maybe didnt knew the danger of this new type of cargo since it was one of the first ones transporting sulphur via sea
The most comprehensive video, program etc. that I've seen about the Marine Sulphur Queen. Thank you very much for creating & posting this video. May her crew never be forgotten!
I can see München fitting in perfectly on this new series. A dream come true to see her on Brick Immortar. Haven't finished the video at time of posting, but I have a hunch. Take care all.
Good idea! I would like to see a video on M/V Protektor - another huge German-built ship that went missing, IIRC she's the 2nd biggest Grand Banks shipwreck, after RMS Titanic.
I would love to see this channel cover a tragedy that few seem to know about but completely changed the Coast Guard in the United States: The Marine Electric.
The best part of your videos is the quality and sticking to facts. TY for always remembering the people who, in these moments, are surrounded by what is going to kill them and can do nothing but try to prolong it just enough so that someone else can save them. I will never forget the words of Quint in Jaws: "You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn"
Interestingly enough one of the very last T2 type ships, SS Mission Santa Yenz survived in layup all the way until 2009 when it was finally scrapped, fortunately nearly all photos, prints and records of her survive thanks to her prolonged existence. But unfortunently her scrapping made the ship class totally extinct.
@@zeropoint216they saved 4 liberty ships and 3 victory ships, none of the navel oilers were saved as a museum. I bring it up because the war couldn't have been won without them.
It's not used as fuel. It's used as a catalyst/compound in various industrial chemical processes. One of the things I've heard it is used for recently is coolant in newly designed nuclear reactors, however I don't think any have been built in the US.
@@mountainjeff Molten sulfur as coolant for nuclear reactors? I tried to look that up, but no results. Is it possible that you are misremembering that fact? Maybe you are mixing up sulfur and sodium?
I will go to sleep 15 hours until the Livestream starts thats to long to wait with only one joint in the hand. I was so excited to see something new from you. I will be there in 15 hours. Thanks for your awesome videos.
Thanks you for another great video, I really appreciate that you add in conversions of units of measurment for everything and it really adds so much to the quality even if it takes time. So many other youtubers just ignore this like their preferred unit is the default and assume everyone globally understands it. I really love your videos especially the ones industry vessels like these. Best wishes from Sweden
An excellent video. I had previously heard of the 'Marine Sulphur Queen' via Bermuda Triangle lore. Even there, the consensus seemed to be that her end probably related to structural failure and/or her cargo. I had not realized that the ship had been in so many accidents / incidents beforehand - individually, they might done little damage, but there had to be a cumulative effect. Also, I am not a chemist, but I keep thinking sulphur plus seawater could equal sulphuric acid, which would surely have had some long-term effects on the ship - such as damaging specific components or even affecting corrosion rates. What is quoted from the Marine Board Of Enquiry doesn't include any mention of this, so I would infer that it was not considered a major factor in this tragedy. Especially when one considers all the other problems the MSQ had anyhow,
Love your videos Brick Immortar, Im at my cabin and there's a massive storm cell passing over the lake right now and the waves and wind are nuts, perfect ambiance for watching your vids, it's pretty eerie but im far more immersed when the weather is like this, feels like im on the ships with the crew while im watching your videos. Love from Canada🍁
When Drach did his series on how the ships of Pearl Harbor were salvaged and repaired, it awakened a desire in me for a series on the maintenance history of random ships. This video renewed that desire. (But I love fixing things and making them usable again, so maybe it's just me.)
I got to half way though and I couldn't believe how much of a beating this poor ship was taking. I'm surprised it held together for that that long, rip
I kind of ignored this a few times because after binging your videos YT started recommending me a bunch of lesser quality similar videos… only to realize it’s yours! Time to listen while I work
After watching many of these great videos....just how ruthless are these shipping companies?! They truly treat human life of no concern, just money, money, money all the time.
You arent wrong but the problem is larger than just the owners ignoring problems, port captains, port engineers, captains, chief engineers on down can ignore small problems with the honest idea that it will be all right. Maybe it is a small insignificant problem but maybe it leads to larger troubles. Much like the person who says they really should get the brakes on the car checked but it'll be OK for now.
The fast tankers and other liberty ships were a wartime expediency used far beyond their design capacities in the years after the war, kind of in the same way that the flags of convenience system, also a wartime expediency, has now been used far beyond its designed capacity. Both abuses of expedient choices result in much less safe conditions for all. It's interesting to reflect on how this has occurred.
As always, amazing video! I love older stories and I follow a lot of channels that focus on maritime and shipping in the 1800s to turn of the century. Plus also I have to say it, "You're purchases go to keeping this channel afloat", I love a good pun.
I just love the sound and ambiance of your documentaries and save them for special occasions when I can give them my full attention. Mors Music is fabulous. Especially that low humm. You feel it more in your gut than hear with your ears. I am/ was a boat builder, specialized in traditional classic yacht plank on frame construction and also spent a little time up in Alaska commercial fishing. ....so I relate to rough sea conditions and the worries.
Enjoying your channel emensly...joined today so will be binge watching. You are so informative and do not hesitate to correct yourself nor are you condiscending to those making fatal mistakes. Thanks for sharing.
I got to see an old T2 that was converted to a Lake Freighter, Lee A. Tregurtha when I was in the Upper Peninsula las week, it was super cool. It was loading taconite in Marquette Michigan.
This ship is so famous that I've heard of it many times before, but only now that I'm 60 years old do I find out the ship carried _molten_ sulfur. Talk about a smelly ship! Damn...
So, the Marine Sulfur Queen, a vessel who's story I have some familiarity with through a very nice book, The Bermuda Triangle, Mystery Solved by Larry Kusche (1975), an excellent debunking of the Bermuda Triangle myths, and holding many interesting incidents that are considered 'Part of the Mythos' of the Bermuda Triangle, and I feel that perhaps some of the other incidents in the book may make interesting events to look at for future videos.
I wish you'd send a copy of that book to the History Channel, Discovery Channel, Science Channel so they would stop with all their stupid shows investigating the Bermuda Triangle.
Wow!! The condition of the name board shows evidence of true catastrophe rather than the more sinking due to loss of stability. Pure speculation on “the personal message from a crewman received” on onshore station - this is very odd. The Radio Officer would probably send an official message. Whereas a bridge officer may send a personal message. Maybe a crewman was a ham radio operator?
I read in a book on shipwrecks that the last radio message was an instruction toa broker (the sailor who sent it was an investor) ...he didn't indicate anything was wrong, just a routine buy/sell instruction.
Thank you for clearly stating this loss is not attributed, nor did it occur, within the boundaries of the Bermuda Triangle. Knowing of this loss, and it's approximate location, I was well aware it was outside the above designated coordinates, despite so many "enthusiasts" claiming this loss was a part of the mysteries that do surround the above mentioned triangle.
"torn shirts which were indicative of predatory sea life attacks." When i heard that i literally went "oh no!". Those poor men. May their souls rest in peace. Sailors are such unsung & underappreciated heros. People have no idea how heavily we all depend on them.
That map showing the "triangle" could make for a good T-Shirt image...add a big frowny face too. Maybe one day the remains of the ship will be discovered, but the sea does not divulge its secrets readily
It's crazy to see that the 2 places this was done, Chester PA and Wilmington DE, have next to ZERO ship building industry left and honestly Chester has pretty much nothing other than illegal drug sales and crime left there. Love all the vids man! Keep them coming
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1:30 As an Oregonian, I would like to point out a serious error in this video. Many of the T2 tankers were built by the Kaiser Company at their Swan Island Yard in Portland, Oregon. These ships were NOT made in Portland, Maine. I imagine that Brick Immortar made this historical inaccuracy because he is unfamiliar with the Pacific Northwest and naturally assumed that "Portland" meant the city in Maine. However, my great-grandfather worked for the Kaiser shipyards in Portland, Oregon.
The first time I heard of the 'Marine sulphur Queen' was when I was a kid watching a quote-unquote documentary call 'mysteries of the Bermuda triangle' made in the 1970s . At the time and for a great many years it was quite a hoot and made for a great set of ghost stories but now as I am older and wiser debunking some of the stuff has become a thing of mine and I never knew that the 'Marines sulphur Queen' had nothing to do with the triangle !!! My hat's off to you for your research and professional presentation , my best of luck to you for your business and Godspeed !
Love seeing people address the victims of the "Bermuda Triangle" with facts. An excellent source is Larry Kusche's "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved" (although it seems that the print version is better than the Kindle version). The author goes through the major and minor "disappearances" and provides documented information that in many cases completely knocks down the claims made by the legend (including the case of a vessel that departed from Manzanillo, Cuba and vanished with all souls (actually from Manzanillo, MEXICO which is on the Pacific coast). I found it to be an excellent resource when discussing the Bermuda Triangle nonsense.
BI can we assume you will be covering the MV Derbyshire at some point? that story would benefit from such an excellent and comprehensive telling as this
I always look forward to your videos when they pop up. Welcome back, I like this new series of slightly shorter videos, because they'll likely cover incidents I've never heard of. Between your amazing storytelling, and new stories, you've got me on board sir.
I've always wondered about this mysterious ship but could never find much information about it. No better place to get the lowdown than right here. 💪 Love your channel & thanks.
You could tell me that evolutionary advanced dogs and cats already have a prosperous colony on Neptune and run Earth remotely and I would believe you. Just with your tone of voice and delivery. Awesome job once again
I used to sail on Citi-Service tankers, I was on the S.S. Bradfod Island off Cape Hatteras when a sudden storm lifted us up and down thus cracking the hull. The riveted belly bands were all that kept us from becoming two ships. There were two bands on each quarter of the deck riveted but not welded. The belly bands circled the ship just above the plimson line and were only riveted.
I always love watching your videos. They help me sleep, and work without pause or distraction. I appreciate all the time you take to delve into all the details about each structural and maritime disaster you review. I would absolutely DIE of excitement if you covered the mystery behind the Edmund Fitzgerald, which was one of the largest ships sailing on the Great Lakes. Either way, I’m excited for whatever you put out next! Thank you for being one of my favorites in content creation :)
This reminds me, didn't two T2 tankers break in half on the same night during a storm in 1952. Think one was called the Pendleton, the other was the Mercer.
Almost correct with the names. The SS Pendleton and the SS Fort Mercer. There was a movie based on the incident called The Finest Hours. Interestingly, the SS Fort Mercer was actually rebuilt with a new bow, since the stern had remained afloat, was renamed San Jacinto and broke in half again in 1964. Then it was rebuilt and renamed again, this time as Pasadena, and was eventually scrapped in 1983.
Steam smothering sulphur fires will cause the vapour to condense as sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid dissolves steel. This vessel's frame must have been swiss cheese by the time of the sinking. I find it unbelievable that this ship was allowed to sail, following so many leaks and fires. Horrifying.
Far more destructive than sulphuric acid corrosion is electrochemical corrosion by wet sulphur in direct contact with the ship's hull plates and structural members, although the presence of a small amount of acid is necessary to get the reaction going. This corrosion mechanism was unknown at the time of the Marine Sulphur Queen loss. It only came to light in the 1970s and 80s following some embarrassing episodes of rip-roaring corrosion in bulk carriers carrying solid sulphur out of Vancouver, where the Port Authority required water-spraying during loading to lay the dust. The problem was greatly exacerbated by the chloride in the sea water that was used for that purpose: chloride is always bad news where metallic corrosion is concerned. It is not improbable that the spilt sulphur in the MSQ's bottom could have interacted with condensate from steam dousing of sulphur fires. Whatever the precise cause, it is clear from this video that the Marine Sulphur Queen was a disaster waiting to happen.
There's also the potential for hydrogen sulfide build up. With the fires aboard there would have been a heat source for ignition of said hydrogen sulfide. Which could have blown the hull open.
Dear Sir, what a GREAT Service to the families of the SOULS lost in this TRAGEDY!! You are to be commended for this completely avoidable horror. Why wasn't the COAST GAURD INSPECTORS held accountable for letting so many INSPECTION CRITERIA be signed off, knowing full well the implications of their total negligenceof the situation!! So SAD. Mike from Delaware, frmr. Gauger/ Inspector of shipping
Great video as always, strong work. With this new series, do you plan on covering the loss of the Andrea Gail? Also, it may not be in your wheelhouse necessarily, but I'd love to see you tackle some aviation accidents, since you're very thorough in discussing the findings from the NTSB and other boards of inquiry.
*Correction: Kaiser Shipyard was in Portland, OR not ME
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Just suggesting a topic: u.s. submarines in WW2.
Apparently 1 of 3 submariners never came back.
Suggestion: Sinking of the Tōya Maru. It sunk in Typhoon Marie in 1954 while crossing the Tsugaru strait. A lot of things went wrong to lead it to being caught in the storm. Of the 1,309 on board, only 150 people survived. 1,159 were lost. This disaster (there were four other sinkings in the same storm) was part of the reason for the construction of the Seikan Tunnel between Hokkaidō and Honshū.
I know that other people have already done videos on my suggestion but I would like to hear your thoughts on the Edmond Fitzgerald @Brickimmortar
Thanks for your hard work and the patreon supporters and for staying independent @BrickImmortar
too bad you don't ship to Puerto Rico ...I will love to have the 180 stenciled shirt, let me know
I've had a few unpleasant jobs in my life. I feel fortunate that "transporting molten sulfur on a ship described as a floating garbage can" is not among those jobs.
*hands work request*
add to that sailing through the bErmUda Triangel
I was a welder at a sulfur plant 😂. Wouldn't be near the stuff again
One of those 'someones got to do' jobs
yeah but think about it this way, they were able to steal all the sulfur they ever needed to make their own matches or clean out chicken coops etc.
Let’s see, an old ship that was rush built to be disposable, from a class famed for its fatigue issues (a T2 once snapped in half at anchor), converted to haul a cargo she was never designed for, plagued by cracks, leaks and fires, routinely being sailed into hurricanes. The poor thing probably just fell apart in a swell and was gone before anyone knew what was happening.
Two of them snapped like that, the Schenectady and the Ponaganset. Cold rough seas with hot cargo is a recipe for thermal shock.
Yeah, I would assume she broke up all at once, but I think the crew knew what was happening because of the evidence the found life jackets were worn.
I honestly think this is the most likely outcome. Neglecting a ship plagued with issues, she was bound to disintegrate eventually.
I personally think the explosion theory is more likely.
“Nah, it was aliens.”
-Some Bermuda Triangle “expert” (probably).
Even though I'm in construction. I'm a superintendent for a fairly big job. Watching Brick Immortar and aviation accident investigation channels has helped me improve safety on the site. I started to notice little near misses, or poorly maintained machines that could fail around ground workers. I can get ahead of the "swiss cheese" model and avoid accidents.
I work in healthcare, some of the same lessons and principles apply to this industry too. I’ve used knowledge from channels like this one and Mentour Pilot as the safety representative of my clinic. Learning from near misses, reducing power gradients and conducting drills are proactive steps that pretty much any industry can adopt to increase safety.
That’s what we all want to hear. Bless you and spread the word
As someone who also works in construction, same here. Especially in an our industry which still has so many people that scoff at safety as a joke. These videos have also made a far more informed passenger should I ever find myself in trouble when traveling by sea, land, or air
It's funny how all of us did *some* form of drill throughout school, and yet, once you hit college, any type of drill beyond Someone Set Off The Fire Alarm Again become quite rare, despite the need for practicing how to safely leave during an emergency still being a Major Safety Consideration,
thanks. don't know how long it's been since you hear that but add one.
It's remarkable how the phrase "Removed all the transverse bulkheads" put a shiver right down my spine.
Fiddling w/ BULKHEADS! Cause of the "Titanic" disaster-- to save money, the "clever" ship builders did not construct the bulkheads to the full extent of their potential height. When the iceberg ripped open the starboard hull like a can opener-- seawater rushed in at the bow, filled the first compartment, then LAPPED OVER the height-cheated first Bulkhead into the 2nd Compartment-- on & on toward the stern just as you filling an icecube tray with its mini-bulkheads to allow water into the next chamber before it spills over the side. Same concept. This is why "Titanic" exposed its propellers (Stern) high in the air as she continued to founder.
I know little about ship building or structural engineering, but I also thought that part sounded like a bad idea.
same! I was thinking "wer're only a few minutes into this video and he's starting with that? How bad is this going to get?"
Nah...safety zealots slow business lol.
It shivered my timbers
I wish this channel put out more content, but I would never want you to lessen the quality. When you release a video, I fall asleep to it for a good couple weeks until I understand the full story. These stories, albeit tragic, are my happy place. And when you collaborated with Oceanliner Designs I could’ve cried happy tears. 😂 Never stop!
More frequent content = significantly worse quality. There are so many examples of that, like that bald guy with glasses that has like 12 channels and pumps out videos every day.
Forgot his name as well but i get exactly what you mean. His content is literally just reading off wiki with a British accent.
That's so funny I have to do the same thing as well but ive watched every video a zillion times. My "favorites" are the ride the ducks ones.BrickImmortar is top tier but I listen to Drachinifel pretty much every single night to fall asleep his British accent makes me fall asleep I think.
@@harryshuman9637 it's pedantic but he's just a "contractor" in the same way voice actors are, the channels just use his image as well. most of the channels ARE absolutely slop but he definitely doesn't own them
i thought I was the only one hahaha.
I'm flabbergasted by the owner's defense to the lawsuit; how can you say that the lives of the men on your ship are only worth the cargo it carried? You pay them wages, you provide pensions and insurance, you pay for repairs on the vessel itself, but somehow, they're only worth the value of their cargo?
Glad the court threw that defense out, what a cold-hearted response to grieving families.
"the lives of the men on your ship are only worth the cargo it carries". Welcome to modern business. Do not inflict discomfort upon the lives of the executive board, peon.
Working on a liquid sulfur carrier sounds like absolute misery. I've worked various industrial jobs processing lumber and fiber cement -- and sure, chipping away solidified cement and fiber really sucks (they ended up contracting it out to a company that used very high power pressure washers and vac trucks for the most dense stuff) -- but I can't imagine it being liquid sulfur that needs to be kept heated and minor leaks turning into major incidents.
Yeah, it sounds like an utterly miserable task to be saddled with, especially when you have to do it with a super early conversion tanker that seems to leak regularly in port and at sea.
Omg lunar magic
Astonishing that 39 people can sail off on a one-way voyage with barely a trace of evidence left behind. Then 50 years later you see the Malaysian flight that disappears and you realize not much has changed. These are vast, remote expanses with no one around to help. This one reminded me of the Texas City fertilizer explosion. Busy industry in S Texas and Louisiana. Sometimes safety doesn't make priority.
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They are making progress with Malaysian Airlines, check out 'Green Dot Aviation - What Netflix got Wrong' for a very likely scenario (when looking at the evidence)
Yup. The sea is vast and uncaring. Disrespect her at your own peril.
"Sometimes" Sadly the word is "Often" but its very varied depending on ship, fleet management, Industry and country
If you know any chemistry, you know how ungodly stupid it was to convert a ship made for carrying fuel oil during a time of war to carry MOLTEN SULFUR mild steel (probably also of poor quality) doesn't like sulfur very much... The omnipresence of water just makes this even stupider... This ship should have never been converted, and given that it was, it should have been scrapped far sooner.
It amazes me how the coast guard kept certifying this death trap, these tankers were made quickly and cheaply and designed for a few years use in the war, very similar to your videos on the “duck boats,” both of these were never meant to be heavily modified decades later for uses they were never designed for. Rest easy for those who were lost, this should never have happened - which is always the theme with these types of videos. Great job as always Sam!
Seriously I was fascinated by Berlitz's "Bermuda Triangle" books as a kid, but now I am amazed how dishonest he was. Not only with this ship but also with a lot of other alleged Bermuda Triangle cases. Of course I was also slightly disappointed when I sailed through it with the german navy and didn't disappear and didn't even see a single UFO ;)
I believe it is no different than places in the Great Lakes that have too many shipwrecks.
Sam, you're a real shining light in the dark waters of TH-cam. Fair winds and following seas
Brick Immortar is the only creator I follow, where when a new video pops up, I ask myself: “ok, can I watch this without any distraction? Or do I need to wait until I can give it my full attention.”
yup. every time. sometimes i’ll wait till i have a good meal or snack to eat with it
Not the only one for me, but absolutely yes!
Watching this two days later, I fully agree. It’s the kind of subject matter you should be in the right headspace for.
@@swiftyytm I'm eating a snack and making food while my family naps. It took me a couple days but I found the time. Sometimes I even refrain from comments until I'm done.
That said, back to it.
@@Luka_menorykee I likewise have a few, but they're not many that I give my entire attention to like this and a small handful of others.
With all these sulphur leaks and piles and the frequent fires, it sure sounds like this vessel was a floating _hell_ . Like, literally.
Captain Satan: "AHAHAHAHAHA!!"
I like that you're going to do videos on ships lost at sea like this. Many channels do it as well, but you always pull up the investigation reports which might shed some more light onto what may have happened, it's more than just a surface level look.
This is a fantastic presentation. T2's came from my state (Oregon) - they were built within walking distance of my apartment, at Swan Island in Portland. One of them, the brand new Schenectady, broke in half at anchor in calm weather - not surprising Marine Sulphur Queen was lost at sea when she got old. Sylvia L. Ossa was another old T-2 tanker from Swan Island shipyard - after conversion to an ore ship, she went down in a storm in 1976, with 37 men drowned - big tragedy for South America, since the crew was mostly Brazilian and Uruguayan. If a new T-2 could snap in half in port, an old one would be a death trap in bad weather .
Yeah, when Brick Immortar was listing the places where T2s were built, he made the mistake of saying "Portland, Maine," instead of "Portland, Oregon."
20:36 The juxtaposition of the relative sternness of this video/channel and the Bermuda Triangle overlay is quite amusing
Even when handling serious material, bullshit can still be clearly identified as such.
I did not even know molten sulphur carriers were a thing. With all the history of T2s cracking and snapping in half, could that have happened?
same thats insane
I still can't figure out why you wouldn't carry dry sulphur and just melt it at the point of need? What is the economic gain? I mean, to me, this seems as useful and practical as Molten Chocolate carrier vessel, only much worse smelling.
@@katherinekeller4149probably easier to pump off than dealing with cold processed sulfur
I mean, yeah, it's pumpable on and off, which makes for easier load/offload, but I don't get how it's cheaper to transport than, say, bricks of sulfur, or barrels of sulfur powder, given the cost of having to burn all that fuel to keep it in a liquid state.
@katherinekeller4149 I imagine the calculus on fuel worked out because I doubt they were running the ship at 100% of its rated power all the time, so they would have had excess steam to work with from the boiler.
Your voice is so soothing! Although the content is always horrific in its tragedy, your calm narration eases my OCD/ADHD riddled brain. Thank you for caring about our safety!
If you are also a sailor, I will start to believe ships are the holly GRALE for Neurodivergent people.
Neurodivergent here. I'm not here for the boats, but for the safety investigations. I also like plane and train crashes, industrial accidents, and other disasters that help me explore safety culture, hazard mitigation, and human hubris 😅
Fellow ADHDer, I also came from the algorithm side of aviation industrial accidents rather than marine topics. I’m learning a lot about the subject and appreciate how the channel progressively teaches about different ship types, but I would love a ships 101 type video that broke down the terminology. Though I understand that this audience’s knowledge base likely succeeds that level.
I did a quick google search and found this (from a reputational source in the US from a Uni: "When elemental sulfur comes into contact with a metal surface, it oxidizes to form sulfur dioxide gas. This gas then reacts with water vapor in the air to form sulfuric acid vapor, which can condense on the surface of the metal and lead to localized corrosion."
I think it just rusted away in unseen places as the sulphur continually leaked.
Awesome video as ever mr Brick
A very good point. As if salt water wasn't corrosive enough. And I'll bet the crew got so used to the smell they never thought beyond it. Apparently no one else did either.
A T2 tanker? I already have an idea what could have happened 💀
Got filled with helium and floated away.
@@Demiglitchelves. Definitely elves
@@Demiglitch very common on this type of ship, that was my first guess also
Fort mercer and pendleton spring to mind
Yes I agree...what we now know of T2 tankers built during ww2 kinda is almost self explanatory....just finishing reading "Finest Hours" too....
And originally heard about the ship through the "Bermuda Triangle" books lol
Thanks for covering this one. There was a similar accident in the 1970s' involving a T-2 tanker that had been converted into a chemical hauler called the V. A. Fogg. In that case the explosion was witnessed by passing aircraft and the wreckage found. If I remember the report correctly the disaster was attributed to faulty cleaning techniques.
I was reading up on this case some time ago. In one article it mentioned when a veteran seaman was being being dropped off at dockside to the Marine Sulpher Queen. He got out of the car, looked the ship over for a few minutes, got back in the car and told his wife to drive them home.
Imagine how it smelled to work on this ship...
No, I will not.
It even looks janky in the photos.
Wonder if you ever got nose blind to that. I don't have to imagine the smell though, we had chickens, ducks and geese.
Hard to say honestly, the smell would come and go depending on if you caught a good lungful of the hydrogen sulfide from the tanks- it rapidly induces anosmia and you lose the ability to smell it or other things. The smell for the places it berthed was probably worse because they never got used to it.
Nah, I'm good...
I'm sorry, "fires almost constantly burned"? A one-off fire is bad enough, frequent fires is disastrous, but fires to the extent they can be described as "almost constant" is beyond my comprehension.
it seems like the ship was leaking so much from so many places that they just stopped caring about it, they stay silent not to loose the jobs and maybe didnt knew the danger of this new type of cargo since it was one of the first ones transporting sulphur via sea
The most comprehensive video, program etc. that I've seen about the Marine Sulphur Queen. Thank you very much for creating & posting this video. May her crew never be forgotten!
I can see München fitting in perfectly on this new series.
A dream come true to see her on Brick Immortar.
Haven't finished the video at time of posting, but I have a hunch.
Take care all.
Good idea! I would like to see a video on M/V Protektor - another huge German-built ship that went missing, IIRC she's the 2nd biggest Grand Banks shipwreck, after RMS Titanic.
I would love to see this channel cover a tragedy that few seem to know about but completely changed the Coast Guard in the United States: The Marine Electric.
I think I remember that.Unlicensed were all NMU members.Happened early in the year.Cant remember what they were carrying though
The best part of your videos is the quality and sticking to facts.
TY for always remembering the people who, in these moments, are surrounded by what is going to kill them and can do nothing but try to prolong it just enough so that someone else can save them.
I will never forget the words of Quint in Jaws:
"You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin' for my turn"
Interestingly enough one of the very last T2 type ships, SS Mission Santa Yenz survived in layup all the way until 2009 when it was finally scrapped, fortunately nearly all photos, prints and records of her survive thanks to her prolonged existence. But unfortunently her scrapping made the ship class totally extinct.
is it really unfortunate though?
@@zeropoint216they saved 4 liberty ships and 3 victory ships, none of the navel oilers were saved as a museum. I bring it up because the war couldn't have been won without them.
I grew up less than a mile from the Sulphur Docks where she took on her last cargo. My parents spoke of this mystery often.
Holy crap, molten sulfur sounds like nightmare fuel.
It's not used as fuel. It's used as a catalyst/compound in various industrial chemical processes.
One of the things I've heard it is used for recently is coolant in newly designed nuclear reactors, however I don't think any have been built in the US.
actually it is not that bad. There is much much worse stuff transported daily.
Naturally, Sulphur is yellow, and all yellow chemistry is evil.
@@mountainjeffI think they meant fuel as in the term “nightmare fuel” not literally nightmare “fuel”
@@mountainjeff
Molten sulfur as coolant for nuclear reactors? I tried to look that up, but no results.
Is it possible that you are misremembering that fact? Maybe you are mixing up sulfur and sodium?
I will go to sleep 15 hours until the Livestream starts thats to long to wait with only one joint in the hand.
I was so excited to see something new from you.
I will be there in 15 hours.
Thanks for your awesome videos.
Thanks you for another great video, I really appreciate that you add in conversions of units of measurment for everything and it really adds so much to the quality even if it takes time. So many other youtubers just ignore this like their preferred unit is the default and assume everyone globally understands it. I really love your videos especially the ones industry vessels like these. Best wishes from Sweden
Your music mixes are so good and appropriate for the content. Another informative and well made video. Thanks for all of your hard work, Sam.
An excellent video.
I had previously heard of the 'Marine Sulphur Queen' via Bermuda Triangle lore. Even there, the consensus seemed to be that her end probably related to structural failure and/or her cargo. I had not realized that the ship had been in so many accidents / incidents beforehand - individually, they might done little damage, but there had to be a cumulative effect.
Also, I am not a chemist, but I keep thinking sulphur plus seawater could equal sulphuric acid, which would surely have had some long-term effects on the ship - such as damaging specific components or even affecting corrosion rates. What is quoted from the Marine Board Of Enquiry doesn't include any mention of this, so I would infer that it was not considered a major factor in this tragedy. Especially when one considers all the other problems the MSQ had anyhow,
Love your videos Brick Immortar, Im at my cabin and there's a massive storm cell passing over the lake right now and the waves and wind are nuts, perfect ambiance for watching your vids, it's pretty eerie but im far more immersed when the weather is like this, feels like im on the ships with the crew while im watching your videos. Love from Canada🍁
When Drach did his series on how the ships of Pearl Harbor were salvaged and repaired, it awakened a desire in me for a series on the maintenance history of random ships. This video renewed that desire. (But I love fixing things and making them usable again, so maybe it's just me.)
Additional series?? Absolutely onboard with this. Love your work
Finally. Been checking every day. Love your videos man so much!
these videos bring happiness to my life
I got to half way though and I couldn't believe how much of a beating this poor ship was taking. I'm surprised it held together for that that long, rip
Ah hell yeah its always a good day when theres a new brick immortar video to watch
I kind of ignored this a few times because after binging your videos YT started recommending me a bunch of lesser quality similar videos… only to realize it’s yours! Time to listen while I work
After watching many of these great videos....just how ruthless are these shipping companies?! They truly treat human life of no concern, just money, money, money all the time.
Yes.
They've been quite ruthless since the old days, cargo being more valuable than the humans transporting it in the company's eyes.
@@Blur4strikeIt's a reflection of our entire collective society and not limited to just cargo transporting.
Excellent vid and no wild speculation. Top tier quality.
“bErmUdA TrIAngEL” killed me. XD
……figuratively.
He must be so tired of all the people who still profit with that nonsense. And I can't blame him.
I like how he deliberately misspelled triangle, as triangel😂
It didn't kill me, just made me disappear
"T2 tanker"
"Oh... oh no."
They weren’t that b- Bow falls off.
The biggest issue with these old boats is people who own them value profit over reliability and safety.
You arent wrong but the problem is larger than just the owners ignoring problems, port captains, port engineers, captains, chief engineers on down can ignore small problems with the honest idea that it will be all right. Maybe it is a small insignificant problem but maybe it leads to larger troubles. Much like the person who says they really should get the brakes on the car checked but it'll be OK for now.
That's how Onassis made his fortune. Unseaworthy tankers insured to the hilt, crewed by expendable sailors.
Im so glad I found this channel. Truly peak my interest with maritime disasters
The fast tankers and other liberty ships were a wartime expediency used far beyond their design capacities in the years after the war, kind of in the same way that the flags of convenience system, also a wartime expediency, has now been used far beyond its designed capacity. Both abuses of expedient choices result in much less safe conditions for all. It's interesting to reflect on how this has occurred.
Holy smokes hearing the part where the coast guard heard a personal message and would not disclose it gave me chills from head to toe
As always, amazing video! I love older stories and I follow a lot of channels that focus on maritime and shipping in the 1800s to turn of the century. Plus also I have to say it, "You're purchases go to keeping this channel afloat", I love a good pun.
I’m Bricked up for this premiere
I'm immortared in
Tragedy inspires safety measures...sometimes
I just love the sound and ambiance of your documentaries and save them for special occasions when I can give them my full attention. Mors Music is fabulous. Especially that low humm. You feel it more in your gut than hear with your ears. I am/ was a boat builder, specialized in traditional classic yacht plank on frame construction and also spent a little time up in Alaska commercial fishing. ....so I relate to rough sea conditions and the worries.
Yes!!! I can't wait to fall asleep to this!
Enjoying your channel emensly...joined today so will be binge watching. You are so informative and do not hesitate to correct yourself nor are you condiscending to those making fatal mistakes. Thanks for sharing.
I got to see an old T2 that was converted to a Lake Freighter, Lee A. Tregurtha when I was in the Upper Peninsula las week, it was super cool. It was loading taconite in Marquette Michigan.
This ship is so famous that I've heard of it many times before, but only now that I'm 60 years old do I find out the ship carried _molten_ sulfur. Talk about a smelly ship! Damn...
Thank you for all your work @BrickImmortar! Another one hit out of the park!
So, the Marine Sulfur Queen, a vessel who's story I have some familiarity with through a very nice book, The Bermuda Triangle, Mystery Solved by Larry Kusche (1975), an excellent debunking of the Bermuda Triangle myths, and holding many interesting incidents that are considered 'Part of the Mythos' of the Bermuda Triangle, and I feel that perhaps some of the other incidents in the book may make interesting events to look at for future videos.
I wish you'd send a copy of that book to the History Channel, Discovery Channel, Science Channel so they would stop with all their stupid shows investigating the Bermuda Triangle.
Brick Immortar: thanks for posting. At 1:50 Sun Ship in Chester, Pa. My hometown. Cheers! 🥨
Wow!! The condition of the name board shows evidence of true catastrophe rather than the more sinking due to loss of stability.
Pure speculation on “the personal message from a crewman received” on onshore station - this is very odd. The Radio Officer would probably send an official message. Whereas a bridge officer may send a personal message. Maybe a crewman was a ham radio operator?
I read in a book on shipwrecks that the last radio message was an instruction toa broker (the sailor who sent it was an investor) ...he didn't indicate anything was wrong, just a routine buy/sell instruction.
Thank you for clearly stating this loss is not attributed, nor did it occur, within the boundaries of the Bermuda Triangle. Knowing of this loss, and it's approximate location, I was well aware it was outside the above designated coordinates, despite so many "enthusiasts" claiming this loss was a part of the mysteries that do surround the above mentioned triangle.
"torn shirts which were indicative of predatory sea life attacks." When i heard that i literally went "oh no!". Those poor men. May their souls rest in peace. Sailors are such unsung & underappreciated heros. People have no idea how heavily we all depend on them.
That map showing the "triangle" could make for a good T-Shirt image...add a big frowny face too.
Maybe one day the remains of the ship will be discovered, but the sea does not divulge its secrets readily
I would totally buy a bErmUdA TrIAngEL T-Shirt
Thank you for delivering another high quality video filled to the brim with lessons ♥
It's crazy to see that the 2 places this was done, Chester PA and Wilmington DE, have next to ZERO ship building industry left and honestly Chester has pretty much nothing other than illegal drug sales and crime left there.
Love all the vids man! Keep them coming
Thanks for what you do. It's nice to see a channel without sponsors these days.
Wake up, babe, Brick Immortar is bringing contents again
Indeed what does it even mean?
the joke is that you are so excited about something that you are waking up your significant other to tell them @jcnwillemsen 😊
Content is a piece of media that an advertisement agency can slap an ad on. So this comment suggests that one should get back to work and monetize BIs work before someone else does
Just started watching huh? Don't worry...soon you'll get a text "YOU BETTER NOT WATCH IT WITHOUT ME!" 😂
We are awake.. just really late 😢. Thanks babe
1:30 As an Oregonian, I would like to point out a serious error in this video. Many of the T2 tankers were built by the Kaiser Company at their Swan Island Yard in Portland, Oregon. These ships were NOT made in Portland, Maine. I imagine that Brick Immortar made this historical inaccuracy because he is unfamiliar with the Pacific Northwest and naturally assumed that "Portland" meant the city in Maine. However, my great-grandfather worked for the Kaiser shipyards in Portland, Oregon.
Yes, will be sure to correct this on the next T2 vid.
The first time I heard of the 'Marine sulphur Queen' was when I was a kid watching a quote-unquote documentary call 'mysteries of the Bermuda triangle' made in the 1970s .
At the time and for a great many years it was quite a hoot and made for a great set of ghost stories but now as I am older and wiser debunking some of the stuff has become a thing of mine and I never knew that the 'Marines sulphur Queen' had nothing to do with the triangle !!!
My hat's off to you for your research and professional presentation , my best of luck to you for your business and Godspeed !
Love seeing people address the victims of the "Bermuda Triangle" with facts. An excellent source is Larry Kusche's "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved" (although it seems that the print version is better than the Kindle version). The author goes through the major and minor "disappearances" and provides documented information that in many cases completely knocks down the claims made by the legend (including the case of a vessel that departed from Manzanillo, Cuba and vanished with all souls (actually from Manzanillo, MEXICO which is on the Pacific coast). I found it to be an excellent resource when discussing the Bermuda Triangle nonsense.
Always love to see a new Brick Immortar. And i need a new Fast Tanker B.i. t-shirt
BI can we assume you will be covering the MV Derbyshire at some point? that story would benefit from such an excellent and comprehensive telling as this
I always look forward to your videos when they pop up. Welcome back, I like this new series of slightly shorter videos, because they'll likely cover incidents I've never heard of. Between your amazing storytelling, and new stories, you've got me on board sir.
I've always wondered about this mysterious ship but could never find much information about it. No better place to get the lowdown than right here. 💪 Love your channel & thanks.
You could tell me that evolutionary advanced dogs and cats already have a prosperous colony on Neptune and run Earth remotely and I would believe you. Just with your tone of voice and delivery. Awesome job once again
Thanks for your awesome Videos.
Awesome good time to wake up n smoke n watch
I literally saw like a tiny sliver of the thumbnail for this and got chills "is that a new Brick immortar video?"
...the stench of sulphur is seriously overpowering...
You do such a good job explaining all this. Thank you for your hard work.
This channel is the channel I drop everything for 🙏 always such high quality content
Aaahhh 13 hours? I can't wait that long. I never thought I'd be so excited to listen to NTSBs
I used to sail on Citi-Service tankers, I was on the S.S. Bradfod Island off Cape Hatteras when a sudden storm lifted us up and down thus cracking the hull. The riveted belly bands were all that kept us from becoming two ships. There were two bands on each quarter of the deck riveted but not welded. The belly bands circled the ship just above the plimson line and were only riveted.
Love the conversion on the left. Makes it easy for me to imagine sizes of objects in the video. Thank you :)
I always love watching your videos. They help me sleep, and work without pause or distraction. I appreciate all the time you take to delve into all the details about each structural and maritime disaster you review. I would absolutely DIE of excitement if you covered the mystery behind the Edmund Fitzgerald, which was one of the largest ships sailing on the Great Lakes. Either way, I’m excited for whatever you put out next! Thank you for being one of my favorites in content creation :)
This reminds me, didn't two T2 tankers break in half on the same night during a storm in 1952. Think one was called the Pendleton, the other was the Mercer.
Almost correct with the names. The SS Pendleton and the SS Fort Mercer. There was a movie based on the incident called The Finest Hours.
Interestingly, the SS Fort Mercer was actually rebuilt with a new bow, since the stern had remained afloat, was renamed San Jacinto and broke in half again in 1964. Then it was rebuilt and renamed again, this time as Pasadena, and was eventually scrapped in 1983.
Each video you release is better than the one before it! Absolutely love it!
Steam smothering sulphur fires will cause the vapour to condense as sulphuric acid. Sulphuric acid dissolves steel. This vessel's frame must have been swiss cheese by the time of the sinking. I find it unbelievable that this ship was allowed to sail, following so many leaks and fires. Horrifying.
Far more destructive than sulphuric acid corrosion is electrochemical corrosion by wet sulphur in direct contact with the ship's hull plates and structural members, although the presence of a small amount of acid is necessary to get the reaction going. This corrosion mechanism was unknown at the time of the Marine Sulphur Queen loss. It only came to light in the 1970s and 80s following some embarrassing episodes of rip-roaring corrosion in bulk carriers carrying solid sulphur out of Vancouver, where the Port Authority required water-spraying during loading to lay the dust. The problem was greatly exacerbated by the chloride in the sea water that was used for that purpose: chloride is always bad news where metallic corrosion is concerned.
It is not improbable that the spilt sulphur in the MSQ's bottom could have interacted with condensate from steam dousing of sulphur fires.
Whatever the precise cause, it is clear from this video that the Marine Sulphur Queen was a disaster waiting to happen.
There's also the potential for hydrogen sulfide build up. With the fires aboard there would have been a heat source for ignition of said hydrogen sulfide. Which could have blown the hull open.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE VIDEO AND ITS HISTORY
Thank you for the new video! Saw the reminder and absolutely couldn’t wait!
Dear Sir, what a GREAT Service to the families of the SOULS lost in this TRAGEDY!! You are to be commended for this completely avoidable horror. Why wasn't the COAST GAURD INSPECTORS held accountable for letting so many INSPECTION CRITERIA be signed off, knowing full well the implications of their total negligenceof the situation!! So SAD. Mike from Delaware, frmr. Gauger/ Inspector of shipping
I enjoy your work. It makes me think about safety at work with a new light.
Great video as always, strong work. With this new series, do you plan on covering the loss of the Andrea Gail? Also, it may not be in your wheelhouse necessarily, but I'd love to see you tackle some aviation accidents, since you're very thorough in discussing the findings from the NTSB and other boards of inquiry.
Something tells me she snapped like the Fort Mercer and Pendleton. Today there’s only one T3 still working the Lee A. Tregurtha aka USS Chiwawa
Marine transport line had a terrible history with these t2 tankers.