Check the mathematics on the verbal SPELLS we cast. The *prefix* to the word FRIEND is _fri,_ which means *FRY* or *BURN.* And the *suffix* to the word FRIEND is _end,_ which means *DEADLINE* or *CONCLUSION.* Therefore, the true meaning of FRIEND is *FRY YOU IN THE END.* How because a friend gets close to you to learn and know some of your deepest and darkest secrets. So, I always call somebody on the same frequency, life wave, path, and goals as me, regardless of my family's bloodline, *FAMILY.* Now break down the prefix and suffix of the family. My true story is that I've been burned by more family and accepted and helped by what the unenlightened calls friend. So, when you flip the numerals on both sides of the negative, you get the positive. As a result of calculating the equation, you get that you'll find a friend more loyal than your family member in most cases, so, it's right to call them family. *It-it-it's MATHEMATICS!*
Bro...been watching your interviews lately. Lot's of true insight, wisdom and knowledge from yourself and your guests. This is grown hip-hop shit. Very much appreciated. Much respect from TX. Keep doing it.
That's a jewell that Nipsey gave niggas. No grown man, who's really about his priorities and business, should be moving in social circles with dudes who aren't progressive in their thinking and practices. That's dead weight. No way if I'm Hov, am I babysitting and holding another grown man's hand like he's my youngin or something lol. Beans was on some bs back then. He needed to sit down for a minute, and get his mind right.
They tell you everybody can’t come with u because your easier to manipulate and change with out your roots around u . I read 48 power and art of war and as a indigenous brunneous man they would label negroe nowadays all these so called goals are European colonizers mindset . A lot of these artist when they get big they create capitals instead of hedging the money together and buying back our land and rights from our ancestors.
"Beans I ain't tryna change you, just give you some game/To make the transition, from the streets to the fame," -- Jay-Z Jay gave Beans many chances. He just dropped the ball. Bleek, Ty-Ty and OG Juan are all still in Jay's immediate circle. Niggas like Beans, Dame and Dehaven are on the outs for a reason. Everybody can't go.
Man shut that soft shit up , dude robbed all of dem of most of their publishing and gave them crumbs and acted like he was putting them on . Made them make movies for the low with no backend. Would take all of state property songs and beats and not pay publishing. Jay learned from diddy, act like u for your ppl while u robbing them.
@@kelvinfoye4728 people just be talking just to try and justify @ElmzTana "he stole publishing" and dont even have the FACTS in order to have any business to share there opinion. Just cause they dislike someone Y whereas they would go as to make up some DUMB SHIT just to sound smart! Through all these years there was NEVER NO PUBLISHING DISPUTES!
That's facts. I say it depends on your relationship with that particular family member and/or where their head is at. Can't give all family a pass just cause they're blood.
I still don't agree with JZ choice but I also don't agree with the way a millionaire artist(Beans) was conducting himself also. He should have never put Anyone in that position
As grimey as Camel is, Beans in MANY ways was his own worst enemy. And NO man should be a babysitter for another grown man. That's asinine on the highest level.
@@bigsix7 ain't no assuming to it. Mf keep saying jay z wrong for not risking it all and other people's progress to babysit a grown ass man whose actions he has no control over.
At the same time, you hired your friend to work for you for X amount of dollars per month. YOU are responsible for paying that no matter if it was a slow month or not. You have to honor that. . If you were working a regular 9-5, you'd expect to be paid the same no matter how business was going.
If it wasn’t for State Property, Rocafella would’ve hurt.. DMX and Ruff Ryders took over NYC and brought back that ruggedness, Dame saved the day by signing them dudes, Memphis couldn’t hold it down against the Ruff Ryders, Jay even got some of his best hits from those guys, that hot 97 state prop freestyle gave The Roc new life ,.. jayz will only get a warrior when there’s war
Yeah, Nas and D Block had him in a corner. Young Chris gave him his flow past 2001, Beans took care of the street ish with him and Kanye, and they made more hits than his protege Memphis Bleek.
Actually State Property weren't even big musically. Kanye, Cam, Dipset, and DJ Clue brought more success to the label (All wen platinum). Beans has never sold platinum and neither did State Property. Bleek has more gold albums than Beanie SIgel. Google that shit.
@@esotericguru7111 bro he just didn't get paid for one song because HE didn't have his shit together. So it's Jay Z fault someone else's artist doesn't have publishing? Self preservation is the first law of nature.
Beans is one of my favorite mcs of all time.Beans held down The Roc in tough times and alot of that trouble that he did get in was for the team so I see why he felt betrayed.He contributed alot to Rocafella and Jay success.He took on The LOX for The Roc and that shit damn near turned bloody.Just off that,Jay could have done more,IMO.Jay kinda has that reputation for doing shit like this.Sure there are going to be descrapancies in business but the ppl that actually helped you get to where you are should always be looked out for.
…no it wasn’t the shit beans was doing was stupid. Beans if he would have changed would be a superstar and jay called him out on it numerous times and he kept doing it.
No they shouldn’t. HE GOT PAID for his contributions! That’s business!! He had cartoons, movies, his own label. He fucked up. You going for a billion dollars and trying to do shit never done before. You can’t have niggas messing up your bag! C
Jay has always quietly had the Mob Boss mentality as far as using people to his advantage to keep his hands clean whenever there was a Situation. Within that mentality he has used Dame, Beanie, Tru Life, Bleek etc & at some point they've all become expendable...
Made these dudes millionaires and bosses smh they had the same formula he had they decided to bank on the next man instead of leveling up with him…suckas…
Many years later you would clearly see hov made the right move I love a lot of my homies but I wouldn’t bring them to a dinner to meet my boss, and that’s no disrespect to my homies but even they know they’ll tell me Mike I can’t be in that room with those people
Math Hoffa's math got stronger. If you ain't adding to the program then you're subtracting. Jayz was willing to carry beanie to a certain extent. But some people don't learn. So trying to carry them is just gonna wear you down.
I wish I had a group of people to hang out with and discuss stuff with. I love this sort space over a desk or bar, etc… I’m a big fan of watches, is there any chance you could show your collection? Same for your cast? I’m not crazy about all the diamonds and stuff, I just like seeing it exactly as the company made it. I really love to see the inside on watches that are well crafted. Makes me wish I could see that over a simple face. I’m working on getting a base Rolex… I figure I might have one by the time my 9mo. Old graduates college. My watch collection is rather thin. The nicest watch I own is a used Omega ocean-master.
Jay Z was living in some futuristic mode at the time of the Roc. While Beans only knew how to enjoy the success, but didn't know how to take care of it and grow it, therefore he made a lot of mistakes.
Jay ALWAYS had a plan and he cut loose the nyghas that were gonna get in the way of his plans! You have to do what you have to do if you want sustained success with a low key profile!
Everyone that works for you or with you isn’t your friend. Once you pay them what you owe them for the service they performed you don’t “owe” them anything else. If you choose to do more or help them in “their” personal situations then that’s cool but you’re not obligated to & that doesn’t make you a snake, a lame, shady or whatever else ppl like to say. It’s business.
No love in business. Once Jay’s business mindset started to take over all that “friendship” and “loyalty” went out the window. It became about who can help me business wise period
@@nexxlevel4590 because they was never with him in the first place...... the people who was isn't complaining about anything nor is anyone that's on the ROC nation roster which includes cats he was beefing with back in the days and they all say he's a solid dude......
@@Mathhoffa I’ll say this, he’s got a lot of people around him that he could potentially have leverage over. A lot of Jay’s business associates have suspect paperwork from whatever former lives they’ve lived which always fueled my curiosity. Shit wit Hov dealing the cards, he can guarantee he ain’t got no wild cards in his deck..😂
Jay z wouldn't have gone to Jail let's be serious all they ask was for his whereabouts and if he said I don't know where he is at they can't arrest him use common sense bruh
Tyty and emory still around, Hovs actual friends. Wonder if my employer would bail me out if im always wildin. But atleast beans finally saw the bigger picture from that drink champs sit down. Jay realy dont owe anybody anything.
I think if black label heads like Jay Z and Diddy talked to the people signed under them back in the day like white people do other artists where it’s like “these are the numbers, these are the expectations, if you meet them we move forward, if you don’t we move on” then it would be easier for a lot of artists signed to other artists to accept, but a lot the artist-run-music-labels back in the day were making it seem like they were all a “crew” and how you handle a crew and how you run a Fortune 500 business is different and Beans was a young man from the hood, who didn’t seek Jay Z, Jay Z sought him and the dude was a year or two removed from high-school fresh off the block while Hov was a grown man in his 30’s. If Hov instead was a Jewish bussiness man who wasn’t trying to relate to Beans on a street level I think Beans mind would’ve been sharper to what was going on.
@@Watchingvideoslikeu Beans and Jay are only 5 years apart. Jay was 29 when Beans signed to the label at 24. At that time, Roc-a-fella Records had only been in business for 3 years. So though were in "learn as you go" mode. And saying things like "we're a family" and "we're brothers" is jargon used in corporate as well. It doesn't mean we'll have your back regardless of all the dumb and irresponsible things you do. At the end of the day, you have to be responsible for yourself as an adult. Even if you're around people that may condone your bad behavior.
@@Watchingvideoslikeu but you can't call dudes your family and have actions that will pull them down with you. Folks love looking at calling people family, one way. If they family and you care for them, you don't put them in compromising positions
My friends will be my friends til the end of time regardless where i go. Everyone can't go with you in your career but they should still be your peoples.
@@lovehate8286 its crazy seeing so many people talk down on him, when they never realized who his friends actually were. Big difference between business associates and friends. They act like jay z the only one that had something to gain from the relationship
Off topic somewhat but…I love these podcasts all of them, lot of great stories from back in the days. Here’s a different look at it : we went from listening to these dudes to listening to their interviews…which speaks to the state of the music. And I know I know I know, there’s a lot of good stuff still out there believe me I know, I pay attention to ALL hip-hop ALL the time since mid 90s. But the music has changed so dramatically. Just thought I’d point out the irony of us all in the comments loving these videos, and yet thinking, where’s the good music at from this artist right now? It’s usually not there.
I can't believe all these so called street cats didn't recognize State Property, especially Beans, really breathed that street life smh. Beans had absolutely no chill in him. Temper on 100 at all times, disrespectful af, and actually seemed to enjoy engaging in the negativity. I never doubted him. He don't compromise, even when it for his own good. I actually love Beans, even if the State Property movie is borderline unwatchable lmao. There wasn't one single person in that movie that could act.
How about you don't put people you consider friends or family in compromising positions to risk what they been working hard for, cuz of your recklessness. Yall really be having a sucka way of looking at shit
😂😂😂 my man asked him, “who did you have to shed.” 🤣 like damn niccua. He side stepped that question like a smooth politician. That’s like, “what chick you smash that wasn’t as good as you thought it would be?” 😂😂🤣🤣😂
@@servdv that's that technical white people sh*t, jay called them his rocafella family So beans expected more loyalty, Remember I'm just giving you "My Opinion"
@@abefinklestein711 Anyone can be part of the Rocafella family once they are signed to Rockafella, but that's not the same as being "day one" family - there is a difference.
I rather give you money before I give you a job. I always tell my wife that being married to me is not the same as working for me. Always keep the business SEPARATE from friends and family.
You ever noticed Beans never said Jay-z ripped him off. So Jay gave him a record deal, clothing line, a look on the Hard Knock Life album and tour. Jay-z and Dame gave him more than he deserve to be honest. Beans was just a fuck up and had more opportunity than Kanye if we're honest.
@@ocampbell1954 Exactly... and now cats trying to say Jay-Z should have been his personal babysitter too? Even Beans recognized he was wrong. But people love to throw rocks at the throne.
Because emery was his guy. Just cuz niggas do business together don't mean they tight like that. And even brothers can go separate ways if one not moving right
Beans could pitch a position that works for Jay...behind the scenes.. movie direction ...speaker for the youth to save them from jail... Jay could be a silent investor in a beans brand or marketing theme... something can work if he pitches ideas and work ethic
I honestly can’t believe how some dudes get used for a certain purpose and then get dissed for being able to deliver said purpose. Jay liked beans because he was a street dude and exploited that for his gain but then turns around and not hold the street dude down for being said street dude. It’s nasty out here and some people are master manipulators.
You can’t feel sorry for beans cause he was grimey street dude himself an jay z is a snake but he was a smarter snake he used up a grimey street dude an dropped him you can’t be a street dude an speak about morals that make no sense he’s doing immoral shit already
street dudes bring no good in buiness and should be use and exploited, they bring no good in their own community what make you think a dumb brother could do good in business, Jay was smart the other dudes wanted to keep it street
Look Man At that point, Jay done bagged Beyonce. All y'all know, if that was you- some past friends would not be friends any longer. Beyonce at 24yrs would cuff up all y'all. Period
Jay z is Troy aikman , the rap game is done, Babylon is done, these fallen souls are going to hell it’s a done deal, believe in Christ and have eternal life
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Check the mathematics on the verbal SPELLS we cast. The *prefix* to the word FRIEND is _fri,_ which means *FRY* or *BURN.* And the *suffix* to the word FRIEND is _end,_ which means *DEADLINE* or *CONCLUSION.* Therefore, the true meaning of FRIEND is *FRY YOU IN THE END.* How because a friend gets close to you to learn and know some of your deepest and darkest secrets. So, I always call somebody on the same frequency, life wave, path, and goals as me, regardless of my family's bloodline, *FAMILY.* Now break down the prefix and suffix of the family. My true story is that I've been burned by more family and accepted and helped by what the unenlightened calls friend. So, when you flip the numerals on both sides of the negative, you get the positive. As a result of calculating the equation, you get that you'll find a friend more loyal than your family member in most cases, so, it's right to call them family. *It-it-it's MATHEMATICS!*
Bro...been watching your interviews lately. Lot's of true insight, wisdom and knowledge from yourself and your guests. This is grown hip-hop shit. Very much appreciated. Much respect from TX. Keep doing it.
"Circle got smaller everybody can't go"Yung Nipsey da Great
TMC 🏁🇪🇷
That's a jewell that Nipsey gave niggas. No grown man, who's really about his priorities and business, should be moving in social circles with dudes who aren't progressive in their thinking and practices. That's dead weight. No way if I'm Hov, am I babysitting and holding another grown man's hand like he's my youngin or something lol. Beans was on some bs back then. He needed to sit down for a minute, and get his mind right.
They tell you everybody can’t come with u because your easier to manipulate and change with out your roots around u . I read 48 power and art of war and as a indigenous brunneous man they would label negroe nowadays all these so called goals are European colonizers mindset . A lot of these artist when they get big they create capitals instead of hedging the money together and buying back our land and rights from our ancestors.
“No message from the set we accept the challenge “
Period!!!!!
5 Mics hit that nail on the head. Ur peace of mind is priceless, 4REAL!!
Having friends doesn't hinder success. Not having motivation and drive creates room for faliure
Having the wrong friends certainly does hinder your success it has hinders tons of people.
Ya need to get a Podcast NO CAP!
Big factz
Naw, the wrong friends WILL hinder success and you're naive if you think otherwise!
"Beans I ain't tryna change you, just give you some game/To make the transition, from the streets to the fame," -- Jay-Z
Jay gave Beans many chances. He just dropped the ball. Bleek, Ty-Ty and OG Juan are all still in Jay's immediate circle. Niggas like Beans, Dame and Dehaven are on the outs for a reason. Everybody can't go.
Man shut that soft shit up , dude robbed all of dem of most of their publishing and gave them crumbs and acted like he was putting them on . Made them make movies for the low with no backend. Would take all of state property songs and beats and not pay publishing. Jay learned from diddy, act like u for your ppl while u robbing them.
@@elmztana1201 robbed them of their publishing?How you know that? Beans never mentioned that
@@elmztana1201 I have more to add but I agree with what u saying
@@kelvinfoye4728 people just be talking just to try and justify @ElmzTana "he stole publishing" and dont even have the FACTS in order to have any business to share there opinion. Just cause they dislike someone
Y
whereas they would go as to make up some DUMB SHIT just to sound smart!
Through all these years there was NEVER NO PUBLISHING DISPUTES!
@@flxgld7096 EXACTLY!!!!! Beans never said anything about Jay stole.from.him.
Everybody can't go where you're trying to go. As you more forward, you can't bring people that don't help or support that journey.
Exactly cuz if I c u workin wit the feds & I ain't down wit that then u def can't bring me on ya journey.
Real Talk!
Why not teach
That's why L.L. NEVER had an entourage
He had E Love and Cut Creator
Even sometimes you gotta cut certain family members off as well. Just because we’re blood DONT mean we have the same trait running through our veins
That's facts. I say it depends on your relationship with that particular family member and/or where their head is at. Can't give all family a pass just cause they're blood.
Mfs make me feel like Michael Corleone everytime I think im out they pull me back in
That part
The thing about family members is entitlement to your sucess especially when you are the only one to make it life in the family...
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I’m happy this channel exist. Real shit.
Keep Chopping These Episodes up MaTH! 👍🏽
I'm glad I tuned in.. This is real grown man talk
Hov’s Pound Cake verse still stands the test of time to this question 8 years later. GOAT.
FACTS!!!!
He said... Less is more nigga its plenty of us... Straight facts
Facts.. Guys just role with Jay but we're never paying attention to details,instead they went to listen to the media turning them against the dude
beans a tell u if he wasnt in his feelings- hov
I still don't agree with JZ choice but I also don't agree with the way a millionaire artist(Beans) was conducting himself also. He should have never put Anyone in that position
As grimey as Camel is, Beans in MANY ways was his own worst enemy. And NO man should be a babysitter for another grown man. That's asinine on the highest level.
Camel lol
exactly responsible for his wear abouts, so I got to track another man naw I'm good. beans got himself in trouble
period.
Grimey how?
Beans held down The Roc on some street shit that caused him to get in trouble.
I feel that. But if you hire your friends, everybody needs to have an understanding. If that can't be established, then it never was a friendship.
U put that good
That's better than ditching your day 1s to rub elbows with people who don't give a hoot about u
Once you hire your friend they are no longer your friend, they are your employee.
He didn’t know Beans until he signed him
It's so refreshing to see and hear this side of the industry! Math is on to something!
Family ain't always on your team, some friends have done more and proven themselves more than most blood.
Super Facts!!! Only Family...and not all family...just some. You know the ones that you can and can't. It is what it is.
My grandma told me the day after I graduated high school that everybody who came with you can’t go with you.
Salute 👏 to ur Grandma
“Piece of mind is priceless to me”. BIG FACTS
Too many dudes in this comment section think it's being real to babysit other men. Peons.
You Assuming
@@bigsix7 ain't no assuming to it. Mf keep saying jay z wrong for not risking it all and other people's progress to babysit a grown ass man whose actions he has no control over.
This was a interesting conversation. Great job guys. Appreciate the content.
Everybody’s path leads to a different destination.
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A grown man who is acting irresponsible cannot expect another grown man to be responsible for them
Sigel is responsible for Sigel. He's a grown man. Nothing personal, not J-Z,'s responsibility
Common sense
Don't be false claiming family and don't live up to it Jay z a snake
At the same time, you hired your friend to work for you for X amount of dollars per month. YOU are responsible for paying that no matter if it was a slow month or not. You have to honor that. . If you were working a regular 9-5, you'd expect to be paid the same no matter how business was going.
Facts
What 5 mics said at the end was on point.
Family is as family does
Damm what an uplifting episode. Yo gracias 🙏🏽✌🏽🇩🇴
A piece of mind is priceless!!!!
Money does not make you happy, it pacifies the demons in your life.
Maan...Keep PRESSING!!
That one dude look like A-A Ron’s teacher
If it wasn’t for State Property, Rocafella would’ve hurt.. DMX and Ruff Ryders took over NYC and brought back that ruggedness, Dame saved the day by signing them dudes, Memphis couldn’t hold it down against the Ruff Ryders, Jay even got some of his best hits from those guys, that hot 97 state prop freestyle gave The Roc new life ,.. jayz will only get a warrior when there’s war
Yeah, Nas and D Block had him in a corner. Young Chris gave him his flow past 2001, Beans took care of the street ish with him and Kanye, and they made more hits than his protege Memphis Bleek.
SHOT-OUT SEIGE‼️👀👀👀
Actually State Property weren't even big musically. Kanye, Cam, Dipset, and DJ Clue brought more success to the label (All wen platinum). Beans has never sold platinum and neither did State Property. Bleek has more gold albums than Beanie SIgel. Google that shit.
Stop it if it wasn't for The Roc we wouldn't know any of those guys accept Beanie Segal.
@@esotericguru7111 bro he just didn't get paid for one song because HE didn't have his shit together. So it's Jay Z fault someone else's artist doesn't have publishing? Self preservation is the first law of nature.
Beans is a grown ass man, he gotta take responsibility for his whereabouts
Beans is one of my favorite mcs of all time.Beans held down The Roc in tough times and alot of that trouble that he did get in was for the team so I see why he felt betrayed.He contributed alot to Rocafella and Jay success.He took on The LOX for The Roc and that shit damn near turned bloody.Just off that,Jay could have done more,IMO.Jay kinda has that reputation for doing shit like this.Sure there are going to be descrapancies in business but the ppl that actually helped you get to where you are should always be looked out for.
…no it wasn’t the shit beans was doing was stupid. Beans if he would have changed would be a superstar and jay called him out on it numerous times and he kept doing it.
That is not true at all not sure were you got any of that from his trouble was not for the team he was getting in trouble on his own.
My views exactly
No they shouldn’t.
HE GOT PAID for his contributions!
That’s business!!
He had cartoons, movies, his own label.
He fucked up.
You going for a billion dollars and trying to do shit never done before.
You can’t have niggas messing up your bag!
C
@@servdv both
Interesting discussion.
🔥🔥🔥 content as always..
Hoffa needs to be in the barbershop with just him & his guest! ..nobody else should have a voice in the room. The show would be MUCH better!
Jay has always quietly had the Mob Boss mentality as far as using people to his advantage to keep his hands clean whenever there was a Situation. Within that mentality he has used Dame, Beanie, Tru Life, Bleek etc & at some point they've all become expendable...
Exactly he so wrong I feel
Made these dudes millionaires and bosses smh they had the same formula he had they decided to bank on the next man instead of leveling up with him…suckas…
Many years later you would clearly see hov made the right move I love a lot of my homies but I wouldn’t bring them to a dinner to meet my boss, and that’s no disrespect to my homies but even they know they’ll tell me Mike I can’t be in that room with those people
Math Hoffa's math got stronger. If you ain't adding to the program then you're subtracting. Jayz was willing to carry beanie to a certain extent. But some people don't learn. So trying to carry them is just gonna wear you down.
Carry them tf is y’all talking about
I wish I had a group of people to hang out with and discuss stuff with. I love this sort space over a desk or bar, etc… I’m a big fan of watches, is there any chance you could show your collection? Same for your cast? I’m not crazy about all the diamonds and stuff, I just like seeing it exactly as the company made it. I really love to see the inside on watches that are well crafted. Makes me wish I could see that over a simple face. I’m working on getting a base Rolex… I figure I might have one by the time my 9mo. Old graduates college. My watch collection is rather thin. The nicest watch I own is a used Omega ocean-master.
Jay Z was living in some futuristic mode at the time of the Roc. While Beans only knew how to enjoy the success, but didn't know how to take care of it and grow it, therefore he made a lot of mistakes.
Jay ALWAYS had a plan and he cut loose the nyghas that were gonna get in the way of his plans! You have to do what you have to do if you want sustained success with a low key profile!
A solid team
In life, we don't choose our relatives. We are born into that. Family is who we choose to live life with.
Everyone that works for you or with you isn’t your friend. Once you pay them what you owe them for the service they performed you don’t “owe” them anything else. If you choose to do more or help them in “their” personal situations then that’s cool but you’re not obligated to & that doesn’t make you a snake, a lame, shady or whatever else ppl like to say. It’s business.
No ones your friend. Every man for himself
Say it again.
For some reason, ppl think “street” codes relate to BUSINESS.
Beans was wild, he was fighting all the time and he just got shot
Plus getting high all the time too
No love in business. Once Jay’s business mindset started to take over all that “friendship” and “loyalty” went out the window. It became about who can help me business wise period
Not true. A lot of his guys are Still with him
@@Mathhoffa and a lot of guys got dropped too
@@nexxlevel4590 because they was never with him in the first place...... the people who was isn't complaining about anything nor is anyone that's on the ROC nation roster which includes cats he was beefing with back in the days and they all say he's a solid dude......
@@Mathhoffa NOT tryna troll, just wanna get a HONEST opinion about my Dawg 💯 th-cam.com/video/FfTt-JALnCk/w-d-xo.html
@@Mathhoffa I’ll say this, he’s got a lot of people around him that he could potentially have leverage over. A lot of Jay’s business associates have suspect paperwork from whatever former lives they’ve lived which always fueled my curiosity. Shit wit Hov dealing the cards, he can guarantee he ain’t got no wild cards in his deck..😂
Nah sometimes you gotta shed family too.
Feel me. Can't be putting people in compromising positions just because it's you
Jay z wouldn't have gone to Jail let's be serious all they ask was for his whereabouts and if he said I don't know where he is at they can't arrest him use common sense bruh
Family will be the first to do you in every situation is different
Truth bombs 💣
ITZ A HARD REALITY 4 MOST PEOPLE 2 UNDERSTAND THAT MOST RELATIONSHIPS ACROSS DA' BOARD HAVE THEIR EXPIRATION DATE,EXCEPT 4 FAMILY 4 DA' MOST PART!
0:09 Math sound like Jim Jones 😂😂
Gun go off after children and Peace talk at the end lol 😆😂
You a Foo !
Can't save nor carry everybody,a chosen few
Beans messed up a great situation and he had no one to blame but hisself.
Now everyone changing their tune. Beans had to tell yall he was a fuck up? Some individuals just wanted to hate Jay-Z.
Tyty and emory still around, Hovs actual friends. Wonder if my employer would bail me out if im always wildin. But atleast beans finally saw the bigger picture from that drink champs sit down. Jay realy dont owe anybody anything.
Yeah, I think people forget they were coworkers (Beans worked for and with Jay).
I think because black people in hip hop use words like “we a family” “we brothers” “I got you” “rocafella we a army”
I think if black label heads like Jay Z and Diddy talked to the people signed under them back in the day like white people do other artists where it’s like “these are the numbers, these are the expectations, if you meet them we move forward, if you don’t we move on” then it would be easier for a lot of artists signed to other artists to accept, but a lot the artist-run-music-labels back in the day were making it seem like they were all a “crew” and how you handle a crew and how you run a Fortune 500 business is different and Beans was a young man from the hood, who didn’t seek Jay Z, Jay Z sought him and the dude was a year or two removed from high-school fresh off the block while Hov was a grown man in his 30’s. If Hov instead was a Jewish bussiness man who wasn’t trying to relate to Beans on a street level I think Beans mind would’ve been sharper to what was going on.
@@Watchingvideoslikeu Beans and Jay are only 5 years apart. Jay was 29 when Beans signed to the label at 24. At that time, Roc-a-fella Records had only been in business for 3 years. So though were in "learn as you go" mode.
And saying things like "we're a family" and "we're brothers" is jargon used in corporate as well. It doesn't mean we'll have your back regardless of all the dumb and irresponsible things you do.
At the end of the day, you have to be responsible for yourself as an adult. Even if you're around people that may condone your bad behavior.
@@Watchingvideoslikeu but you can't call dudes your family and have actions that will pull them down with you. Folks love looking at calling people family, one way. If they family and you care for them, you don't put them in compromising positions
My friends will be my friends til the end of time regardless where i go. Everyone can't go with you in your career but they should still be your peoples.
But they were not friends
@@servdv i hear you, im just talking about people who are.
Yep.
Snd his real fiends are still with him.
Eatin.
The backstabbers, and the hangers on are gone.
@@lovehate8286 as it should be
@@lovehate8286 its crazy seeing so many people talk down on him, when they never realized who his friends actually were. Big difference between business associates and friends. They act like jay z the only one that had something to gain from the relationship
Cam said dont ever mention dash or Hoffa
Off topic somewhat but…I love these podcasts all of them, lot of great stories from back in the days. Here’s a different look at it : we went from listening to these dudes to listening to their interviews…which speaks to the state of the music. And I know I know I know, there’s a lot of good stuff still out there believe me I know, I pay attention to ALL hip-hop ALL the time since mid 90s. But the music has changed so dramatically. Just thought I’d point out the irony of us all in the comments loving these videos, and yet thinking, where’s the good music at from this artist right now? It’s usually not there.
20 years and either have asked each other for a dime meanwhile I got women on Facebook asking me for money in less than 12 hrs 🤦🏽♂️.
I can't believe all these so called street cats didn't recognize State Property, especially Beans, really breathed that street life smh. Beans had absolutely no chill in him. Temper on 100 at all times, disrespectful af, and actually seemed to enjoy engaging in the negativity. I never doubted him. He don't compromise, even when it for his own good. I actually love Beans, even if the State Property movie is borderline unwatchable lmao. There wasn't one single person in that movie that could act.
Meek got in alot of trouble in his career, Jay stood by him
Beans was Doing way more than popping willies. look That man history up he was Wildin
@@GetRocStar exactly
The Jay that didn’t stand by Beans IS NOT the same Jay that stood up for Meek
Jay or Ross?
Meek did not get into a lot of trouble bra some of yall commenting have no idea what your talking about.
Shit was mad deep.
I’m here to cut with the sword of truth
the issue is when u start using people u claim are ur friends and doin snake shit but hide behind money to justify it
How about you don't put people you consider friends or family in compromising positions to risk what they been working hard for, cuz of your recklessness. Yall really be having a sucka way of looking at shit
If u can read between the lines this shit is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Men are supposed to stand on their own feet, helping a man is great, but you can’t carry him or put him on your path.
😂😂😂 my man asked him, “who did you have to shed.” 🤣 like damn niccua. He side stepped that question like a smooth politician. That’s like, “what chick you smash that wasn’t as good as you thought it would be?” 😂😂🤣🤣😂
I do not wanna hear full force sittin next to Math…
At the beginning Beans was telling a story and NORE ain't let him finish it. Tell him to finish the story and
Beyonce calls,
Jay says "Bye Beans"
Period
I Was The Fly On The Wall, The Shit I Witness... I Can Say Shit That Can Make B Look At You Different
Me personally I couldn't leave my Manz in jail yo!
That was not his Manz he was a signed artist
@@servdv that's that technical white people sh*t, jay called them his rocafella family So beans expected more loyalty, Remember I'm just giving you "My Opinion"
@@abefinklestein711 Anyone can be part of the Rocafella family once they are signed to Rockafella, but that's not the same as being "day one" family - there is a difference.
@@KnightVision09 like I said before, Me personally I couldn't leave my Manz in jail yo!
And manz shouldn't be putting people in compromising positions cuz of his actions. Real sucka shit
I rather give you money before I give you a job. I always tell my wife that being married to me is not the same as working for me. Always keep the business SEPARATE from friends and family.
What episode is this?
I’m from philly beans thought they really loved him period …..we love to hard out when somebody extends there hand
BEANIE Sigel HELD The ROC Down And Jayz Left Him in The COLD🥶🥶
How?
You ever noticed Beans never said Jay-z ripped him off. So Jay gave him a record deal, clothing line, a look on the Hard Knock Life album and tour. Jay-z and Dame gave him more than he deserve to be honest. Beans was just a fuck up and had more opportunity than Kanye if we're honest.
@@ocampbell1954 Exactly... and now cats trying to say Jay-Z should have been his personal babysitter too? Even Beans recognized he was wrong. But people love to throw rocks at the throne.
He went with Dame, how is that Jay problem?
Beans was a livewire and became a liability to Jay.
Man i wish i had friends like them 😂 i ain’t got one real friend
How jay gonna be responsible for Beanz whereabouts?? That was a dumb question for the judge to ask 🤦🏾♂️
In some cases the judge would spare you jail time if someone watches after you for a certain amount of time sort of like probation
I Wonder Who Jayz Was Talking About in Drakes Love ALL 🎙🎙🎙
This is why u have to come up on ur own. Ppl will let you boost or propel them, then leave you behind. Jay didn't like Emory behind...
Because emery was his guy. Just cuz niggas do business together don't mean they tight like that. And even brothers can go separate ways if one not moving right
Buddy was right money aint everything
Beans could pitch a position that works for Jay...behind the scenes.. movie direction ...speaker for the youth to save them from jail... Jay could be a silent investor in a beans brand or marketing theme... something can work if he pitches ideas and work ethic
Yes People Start Hating On You
I honestly can’t believe how some dudes get used for a certain purpose and then get dissed for being able to deliver said purpose. Jay liked beans because he was a street dude and exploited that for his gain but then turns around and not hold the street dude down for being said street dude. It’s nasty out here and some people are master manipulators.
You can’t feel sorry for beans cause he was grimey street dude himself an jay z is a snake but he was a smarter snake he used up a grimey street dude an dropped him you can’t be a street dude an speak about morals that make no sense he’s doing immoral shit already
street dudes bring no good in buiness and should be use and exploited, they bring no good in their own community what make you think a dumb brother could do good in business, Jay was smart the other dudes wanted to keep it street
I would’ve said no also at the end of the day you’re a grown ass man . Stand up for yourself and use your head
And the man put out like four albums not including state property. People always talking bout people drive. They just don't appreciate it.
He actually got in the ring with Jada too. The man was 76 when they fought. Lol
Look Man
At that point, Jay done bagged Beyonce. All y'all know, if that was you- some past friends would not be friends any longer. Beyonce at 24yrs would cuff up all y'all. Period
YO...I'd love to see Pharoahe Monch on an episode
That story is old had has been told...
Bring on DOSE for an interview.
I ain't gone lie almost thought I got shot at the end come on man
Maaaaaaannnnnn he know what we mean by family,…. 😐😒😐😒
Jay z is Troy aikman , the rap game is done, Babylon is done, these fallen souls are going to hell it’s a done deal, believe in Christ and have eternal life
Glory to jesus