برو دنبال پدر واقعیت بگرد احمق ، احتمالا دو رگت لور نیست چون هیچ لوری در ایران به خودش کورد نمیگه و عین این میمونه که به یک کورد بکی تو تورک یا عرب هستی
Kurdsh(Lur_lak_zazak_bakhtyari_sorani_Badini_failyakan_kalhuri_Goran_) We're one family. Like our history in the mountains of Zagros and Toros ...،Hèrbzhi lurstan bzhi kurdstan✌The most beautiful family 🌹
Ι agree my friend.. All of them are the ancient Med. I am.from.greece. I was married now widow,with a man from Elam,a feyli kurd We have four children,all with kurdish-iranian names Sardar,sarmend,nernin,dilovan.. Of cource kurds,fars and others iranian ethical groups are relatives
Thanks so much for preparing this wonderful video about Lores I loved it. It’s great to know different cultures exists in Iran. I always wondered about Lore’s I wish it was longer
i am assuming that Luri people have Kurdish origin , My ancestors have been deported by Sha Abas in 1604 from Armenia. i am looking for the evidence about that period . I hared about Lori people living next to my ancestors having ever problems with them such as Lori khons with their men attacking Armenian Cristian villages in so called Peria region. i was wondering if any of you guys know about that area called Peria ? Please let me know where/how can i find the map of Peria ?
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لور ها کورد نیستن ، آخرین بارته که اون ها رو کورد خطاب میکنی! این حرف رو فقط یه احمق بی هویت میتونه بزنه ما فقط لوریم ، لور هستیم و لور باقی میمونیم ، کورد خطاب کردن لور ها فقط باعث تنفر ما از شما ها میشه نه چیز دیگه ای
@@tekhayat5995 اخه کونی عرب ها هم رقص دست گرفتی دارن بلوچ ها هم اینطور رقصی دارن اونا هم کرد هستند ؟ گوه نخور کونی رقص ما با شما فرق داره لباس ما مثل پالتو تا پا کشید میشه شما شلوار پیراهن هست یک رنگ ما یک رنگ هم نیست
Lores are Indian people who migrated to Iran after Arab/Turkish Islamic invasion. The instrument being played in this video is veena. Indian Goddess Saraswati is depicted playing veena. Sad these people had to endure so much over centuries. Wish them good luck.
@GLADIATOR! lors are affected by their Kurdish language, but this is not the reason why we are Kurds and the Lors are from the north to the south of Iran. Lorestan is in the north of Iran and I do not have time to talk to you bye
@GLADIATOR! Do you have any evidence that we have stolen your language and clothes? We have had clothes, language and dance from the past until now, and now there are 15 million Lors in Iraq and Iran who have lived here since ancient times. And maybe you are stole our language and clothes(I’m always Lor laki from Loristan)
I just bought a sword dagger from Luristan, 1200 B.C.. I have but one question, what was the religion of Lurs before Abrahamic religion? Was Mithraism relevant?
@Lur Zagrosneshin I wonder... What would need to happen politically, spiritually, pragmatically... in order to unify and create a new identity? In short, what would it take for the modern Tribes today to not only be willing but desire a new cultural and political alliance with, say, a new identity based on ancient Hellenic ideals? To syncretize, as Alexander the Great once wanted...
@Lur Zagrosneshin OH! I am aware of Zurvanism, to a degree... I know there was an inscription regarding Zurvan in the Kalmakara Cave... Is Zurvan synonymous to the Gnostic 'Demiurge'? I've read about Zurvan as the 'Lionish God'... The inscription reads thus : "Behold, I have created the earth and what is in it and all that are living in it. I have created you, I am giving you your daily bread. Your living is in my hands, and your death too... I will excuse you and send you to my paradise if you put your trust in me, and forget about the God who is in Heaven. But you will be cast into Hell for ever if you worship the god who is in Heaven any more. Behold my wrath is going to fall upon you; it is waiting only for an answer from you. Turn you souls from the Heavenly God quickly." - Lionish-God (Irradiant) - excerpt via R.C Zaehner Is this relevant? Furthermore, what does Mithraism have to do with Zurvan?
@Lur Zagrosneshin The only reason I am semi-aware of Zurvanism, the inscription I typed out, and the Kalmakara Cave (a very important site for Mithraism in the Zagros mountains) is because the sword I bought that I commented here about is from that cave.. Very interesting... I for one believe Mithraism is not dead. The last Hellenic (Pagan) Emperor of Rome, Flavius Claudius Julianus, was a Mithraist.. He wanted to incorporate Mithraism into a new religion centered on Hades, Zeus~Jupiter & Helios~Sol Invictus... Mithras and the other Demigods & Heroes associated as well... I am young, only 22, but I am learning information I feel is destined for something important... "Developing the message" as it were.. One day, I will meet face to face with those who have held onto these beliefs - from Luristan to the Himalayas, from Greece to Italy and Britain... Mysteries await to be found, and united..
I have a question about Lorestani culture, and specifically Lorestani women. My great grandmother was from Borujerd, Lorestan. She had tattoos on her face, specifically the mouth area, the tattoos were dot like and blue green colored. I haven't been able to find much about anyone knowing tattoos among the Lors. Does anyone have knowledge about this and why the women would get tattoos on their faces? من یک سوال در مورد فرهنگ لرستانی و به خصوص زنان لرستانی دارم. مادربزرگم از بروجرد لرستان بود. او روی صورتش خالکوبی کرده بود ، مخصوصاً در ناحیه دهان ، خال کوبی های لکه دار و سبز آبی بود. من در مورد کسی که در میان لرها خال کوبی می داند چیز زیادی پیدا نکردم. آیا کسی در این مورد می داند و چرا زنان روی صورت خود خال کوبی می کنند؟
I don't think it's common among men. but they tattoo it next to their eye. as for cheshm zakhm it's like a curse from someone jealous of you. it's more complicated than that but that's how much I can explain.@@ladyterrapin1421
والا من که از تاریخش خبر ندارم ولی تا اونجایی که میدونم مربوطبه این چیزا میشه. حالا تنها چشم زخم نه دلایل دیگه ای داشت اینو از بینشون یادم بود@@Jiko8403
These are Kurds not Lors.. specifically Laki Kurds, Lors are Bakhtiaris, Kuh Giluyehis, Boyer Ahmads and Mamasanis. Even though these Lori groups are seperate they are actually almost come from Laks. There are many groups of Kurds like Kurmanj, Soran, Goran, Lak, Fayli, Zaza.
@S. K There is no persian ethnicity. Persian means Iranian. All Faylis are Kurds. Lurs are Bakhtiaris, Boyer Ahmadis, Qashqais, Mamasani, Koh Gioluyehis. Pahlawani is the zwan of the Kurds in the South i.e Pahlis/Faylis and Laks.
Lorestan is home to the Lurs. Many kurds in the comment section are trying to claim that the people in Lorestan are mainly Kurds. (I even saw they were claming that the Zands were Kurds.) But dont get this wrong that the people in Lorestan are mainly Lurs Because as some comments pointed it out, they hace Laks and Kurds among them. These tribes get along with each other very well and count themselves as brothers. But its really sad to see the Kurds are trying to make history and claim things that is not theirs
خیر بنده لک لرستان هستم. کردها ❤️را دوست داریم اما پانکرد ها چرت می‌گویند. همه ایرانی هستیم این مهم است.🇮🇷🇮🇷 ما لرها کرد نیستیم. کرد ها هم بخشی از لک و لر نیستند. زور نزنید. قومیت گراهای تازه به دوران رسیده.
Ever since I was little I remember Iran has always tried to make lurs separate from Kurds just like how turkey try’s to separate zaza from Kurds, but we know our true identity, biji Kurd ✌️✌️✌️
I have a Zaza Döner-Kebap maker around the corner. We talked about where he came from. He said Bingöl. I asked if he was Kurdish or Turkish. He said I'm neither. I'm Zaza. I was like aren't they Kurds? And he said no, those fascist Kurds always tell that we are part of them but it's not like that. I don't even understand what they are talking. Their language is totally different.
I am kassi and these land belong to us but some kurd say they are kurd but kurd were near to us in everything lur and Bakhtiari are real kassi mean from kassites
Lol, all these people in these comment section are questioning lurs. Stop it!! Lurs are neiter kurds or lacks. I'm not honna comment on lacks but evidence of Lurs are much older than lacks, these clothes are all luri, maybe you discuss about this because of golvani, while even there's no evidence of that
@K _ S لکی زبان هنری لرها نیست ، فعلا که لک ها رو کلا از ما جدا کردن لباس ها مون رو هم به اسم لک ها دارن میزنن ،گلونی رو که تا حالا زدن، شما هم هی بیا بدترش کن با این منابعت،
@K _ S عزیز جان شما خودتو لر میبینی ولی برو پایینتر بقیه اینطور نیستن، کلا چیزی به اسم لر رو قبول ندارن، همونطور که گفتم زبان لکی بین لری و کردی هست واین دوزبان از پارسی میانه هستن، اگر قرار باشه به زبانی شبیه باشه پارسی باستان هست نه اوستایی، اوستایی از پارسی باستان متفاوته و پارسی باستان هم از پارسی میانه ،درسته در قدیم توجه بیشتری به زبان لکی میشده، ما لرها لک ها رو لر می دونیم کردها هم کرد،
@K _ S بنده سکن لرستان نیستم برای همین زیاد اطلاعی ندارم از مناطق مختلفش ولی هر سال مدت زیادی خرم آباد ساکن هستم و توی فامیل هامون هم لک هستن ، ما بین خودمون به هم دیگه با زبون اشاره میکنیم ،یعنی کسی که لکی صحبت میکنه میگیم لک و به کسانی که لری صحبت میکنن میگیم لر، میدونم که خیلیاشون خودشون رو لر میدونن، یک سری تجزیه طلب که همه جا هستن ولی از وقتی که دیدم روسری گلونی فقط به اسم قوم لک ثبت شده این پیامدها بیشتر شده، من واقعا مدرکی پیدا نکردم که متعلق به کجاست تا جایی هم که میدونم تمام مردم زاگرس استفاده میکردن ، کردها هم یکسری ها مخصوصا خارج از کشور کل لرها رو هم به اسم کرد زدن، واقعا لرها و لک ها جزو زبانشون تفاوتی ندارن،من نمیدونم ریششون ممکنه از کجا بوده باشه چه لر چه لک، ولی هر دو ایرانی هستن و در صلح با همن، منظورم اینه که خیلی راحت با هم وصلت میکنن و رفت و آمد دارن در صورتی که مثلا کرد ها با اینکه اون ها هم خیلی به ما نزدیکن ولی اینقدر راحت نمیشه معاشرت کرد، حرف شما هم راجب یکسری بچه که اینترنت دستشون گرفتن کاملا درسته، زبان لکی برای نوشتن راحت تر بود نسبت به لری و شعرهای زیادی هم باقی مونده به صورت کتبی
Kurds are four groups in Sharafnamah : Kurmanj, Goran, Kelhur, Lur. Before 9-10 centuries ago two new Kurdish dialects were created : Sorani and Laki. Sorani is combination between Gorani and Kurmanji. Laki is also a combination between Kalhuri and Gorani. Sorani, Kelhuri, and Laki are almost the same. True there are differences between (Sorani, Laki, Kelhuri) and other Luri dialects (Mamasani, Boyer Ahmad), but it doesn't mean you are not Kurdish
@@sahand2642 ya, Lurs aren't Kurds. You may not know this, but "kurd" wasn't an ethnic designation in the past. Lurs being labeled as "Kurds" in the past didn't mean they were ethnic Kurds.
@@arman_1024 yes kurd was an etnic group at that time. But lurs are not kurds and i dont know why people at that time thought lurs a kurds. I am a kurd and i say lurs are not kurds. Dont listen to him.
I am Lak, and I've studied a lot of Lak history. We are not Lur. If anything.... Lurs are Lak. Laks are historically older than Lurs. We are the origins of the Kurdish diaspora. In fact, all of Kermanshah was once Lakestan. The Lurs of Bakhtiyari and Kuychek are a mix of Laks with a different ethnic group. Laks are genetically closer to all the other Kurdish groups than to any Bakhtiyari Lur or Kuychek Lur. I can send you this article if you wish to see it, it was published out of Lorestan University.
i m also historian. İ m lack of knowledge of İranian etnic groups. Can you give me please some knowledge? Lurs, beloches. İ know only where they live. İ want to learn that Lurs are kurd or not ? what do they feel about etnic origin? and baloches are kurdish?
@matin lurkurd Do lurs think they are kurd? For example in Turkey %50 of Zazas think they are not Kurd and they see Kurds their enemy. Other half of Zazas see himself Kurd (more than Kurds 🙂)
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
باشه بابا خودتو پاره کردی زیر هر ویدیویی که اهنگ لری داره کامنت گذاشتی حالا از پای دستگاهت پاشو برو به زندگیت برس. از دکتر هم یه دارو بگیر به این جفنگیاتت پایان بده.
@@servantofsusa There is an unbelievable resemblance to the Kurdish culture of the lur culture, but where does this curd culture clothing dance come from? The folk dance of the lords is almost the same as that of the Kurds. so if the lors aren't kurds why are some of their clothes and dances the same as kurds??
@@user-zp7fx4gy4u There is an unbelievable resemblance to the Kurdish culture of the lur culture, but where does this curd culture clothing dance come from? The folk dance of the lords is almost the same as that of the Kurds. so if the lors aren't kurds why are some of their clothes and dances the same as kurds??
@@tekhayat5995 our Gene's are different and no our dance is not like kurds neither our language some of us that are close to Kurds have a similar culture with kurds for being infected or mirages ur Gene's are closest to balochs our is closest to gils we are brutal and you are weak we are not the same even if we were the same that we are not our people never accept such a thing
Luri language is same like Kurdish. One day we will 1 nation as like LURISTAN confederation in the past BC. My brothers sisters in Loristan protect your language please. Protect your beautiful culture. One day we will 1 nation as like LURISTAN confederation in the past BC.
Yes definitely I agree luri people are old ancient Kurdish people likewise zazas so as we will see in all history book luri dialects and Kurdish language has a lot similarities so the one who don’t see themself as Kurdish is because of discriminate and assimilation policies of Iranian government as we will see zazas people in turkey were same scared of admitted to they are Kurdish so on this sentence to who doesn’t seeing themself as Kurdish I have really good advice if they don’t think they are Kurdish they can do dna test or they can research about iranin or Turkish history where did they came please do not let the those government lies get into your head you’re all Kurdish petty soon will be under one nation
@@emrecoach89 Lur is southern Iranic and kurdish is northern Iranic. So kurds are more related to Persian. Laks are a little different. But Salasi luri is Persian
@@gorg5494 well those re not my opinion or my statement. I not making those staff, there are people; professors,historians archaeologist they’ve find a lot evidence and proof that luri people are considering Kurds… also Kurds are not northern iranian, Kurds has nothing to do whit Persian people. Kurds are related aryan nation. Yes Kurdish language has some similarities whit Persian language but that doesn’t mean Kurds are persian or related also Kurdish langue has similarities whit Turkish and Arabic as well. I didn’t make that comment by my own opinion it's not my opinion, it’s a reality, it’s a fact so also alevites people, Yazidi people as well as Zazaki people from turkey they've been assimilated from those government it's all just policy of Iran, turkey and Arabs to assimilate and refused to say Kurds are existed since world war 2 exactly during ottoman and Persian empire period they’ve been always refuse the say Kurds exist. The Kurdish language has 5 accents Gorani, Sorani, Zazaki, Kurmanji, and lurs, the Persian language has 4,5 accents as well as Turkish also Arabic. Also, the Kurdish language is the 9th richest language in the world whit over 700 words
@@gorg5494 and also the Aryan nation is not just related to Persian or Kurdish British and some European people are related to the Aryan people as well 👌
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من لورم من کوردم I am Lur i am Kurd ☀️🕊️
تو کوردی تو کوردی
برو دنبال پدر واقعیت بگرد احمق ، احتمالا دو رگت لور نیست چون هیچ لوری در ایران به خودش کورد نمیگه و عین این میمونه که به یک کورد بکی تو تورک یا عرب هستی
Kurdsh(Lur_lak_zazak_bakhtyari_sorani_Badini_failyakan_kalhuri_Goran_) We're one family. Like our history in the mountains of Zagros and Toros ...،Hèrbzhi lurstan bzhi kurdstan✌The most beautiful family 🌹
Biji
Bijii Kurd/lor
Bijji Kurdistan/lorestan
🇹🇯🇹🇯🇹🇯
Ι agree my friend..
All of them are the ancient Med.
I am.from.greece.
I was married now widow,with a man from Elam,a feyli kurd
We have four children,all with kurdish-iranian names
Sardar,sarmend,nernin,dilovan..
Of cource kurds,fars and others iranian ethical groups are relatives
ما لور ها کورد نیستیم احمق ، آخرین بارته که ما لور ها رو کورد خطاب میکنی
Biji Kurd
لرستان بزرگ زیبا غیرتمندشجاع دلیر. جنگجویانی بی مثال هنگام نبرد بهترین دوست هنگام آرامش
Lorestan my heart 😥
Why your heart?
Thanks so much for preparing this wonderful video about Lores
I loved it. It’s great to know different cultures exists in Iran. I always wondered about Lore’s
I wish it was longer
Biji Kurdistan ❤️☀️💚 Kurmanj, Sorani, Gorani, Luri, zaza
What are you talking about we are lurs not kurds
من لورم من کوردم ☀️
@@mahmutolcay1748 fake account obvious lurs are independent
@@shutruk-nahunte3309 Luri are the original Kurd . I think you are not Lur
Viva Greatern Anatolia Kurdistan
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zand_dynasty
@@mahmutolcay1748 I am Kurmanj Kurd from Mersin "northern Kurdistan"
That stringed instrument makes a beautiful sound. If i was not looking at it i would swear i was listening to a violin. :)
لرستان زیبا
lurs are the wold best warriors.
عشق من لرستان یعنی جان روح و روانم لرستان
King of Kingdom LORESTAN Zanda Bad ZILAAN'ii el ShaerikiStan 🇦🇿🇦🇫🇮🇷
Luris are kurds Not fucking iranians turks
i am assuming that Luri people have Kurdish origin ,
My ancestors have been deported by Sha Abas in 1604 from Armenia. i am looking for the evidence about that period . I hared about Lori people living next to my ancestors having ever problems with them such as Lori khons with their men attacking Armenian Cristian villages in so called Peria region. i was wondering if any of you guys know about that area called Peria ? Please let me know where/how can i find the map of Peria ?
لرستان ❤❤
Dear @Amin Safaripour
We are pleased and proud to have creative compatriots like you who are concerned about showing the beauties of Iran to the whole world.
As a small part of Iran, we are trying to narrate stories about our rich land to everyone; We request your approval to republish the fruitful content you created without any content-based direct earning on TH-cam.
Looking forward to your permission 🙏🏽
سلام ممنون برای این ویدئو عالی، کاش یک فیلم هم همین جور مختصر و خوب در مورد مراسم عروسی، غذا محلی، هنر و آثار باستانی خرم آباد بسازین😍
تو فکرش هستیم برا تولید
So beautifully
Kurd lı dinyayi hevdı qêtiyane jibo wi hevdu fehm nakin.
Keske iranlı bir kürtle evlensem kulturune hayranım ozellikle lurlar🤗
Al bir bilyet git orada çalış. Belki bulursun kafana göre birini.
Biz Kürtler tek kürtlen evleniriz tatar mogul kirmasi seni
This region has a very high frequency of the Afro-asiatic genetic marker e-m35.
Herbiji..lorstan..kurde
لرستان از لر تا لکش همه لرن .
دزد و گدای هویت نباش
Luri are kurdi ❤
لور ها کورد نیستن ، آخرین بارته که اون ها رو کورد خطاب میکنی! این حرف رو فقط یه احمق بی هویت میتونه بزنه ما فقط لوریم ، لور هستیم و لور باقی میمونیم ، کورد خطاب کردن لور ها فقط باعث تنفر ما از شما ها میشه نه چیز دیگه ای
In your dreams
@@scherwinsa1758 in reality stupid
Loristan, rojhelat, hewreman, basur, bakur, rojava....Kurdistane Mezin
@𐎤𐎢𐎽𐎢𐏁 😂😂🤣🤣
Lol لرستان لر نه کورد
@@tekhayat5995 اخه کونی عرب ها هم رقص دست گرفتی دارن بلوچ ها هم اینطور رقصی دارن اونا هم کرد هستند ؟ گوه نخور کونی رقص ما با شما فرق داره لباس ما مثل پالتو تا پا کشید میشه شما شلوار پیراهن هست یک رنگ ما یک رنگ هم نیست
هه رو گه گه رو
@@user-zp7fx4gy4u i.m kurdish lur
Crazy how iran has so many different cultures and languages
Ik I can't keep track 🥹
Lores are Indian people who migrated to Iran after Arab/Turkish Islamic invasion. The instrument being played in this video is veena. Indian Goddess Saraswati is depicted playing veena. Sad these people had to endure so much over centuries. Wish them good luck.
Lol, your religion is fake
You’re mixing up two wholly different ethnic groups with similar names
@@rostamyazata991ethinic groups formed later due to aryans and later islam whole history changed
These people ancestors part of sindhu civilization's
and shame on you . the lors are lions of iran.
thanks to science that shows hwo aharing dna with indian.shame on you.
I wish to know how Lur women wrap their headscarf. My fathers family is Lur
Luristan #1
Among all Iranian groups it was only the Persians who made historical accomplishments.
Lurs are kurds❤❤❤
Never! Just Lor!
I'm lurs laki😍
@GLADIATOR! You accept the Internet, but we accept the words of our elders and the books of our elders(we allways lurs laki) تف ده ریت
@GLADIATOR! lors are affected by their Kurdish language, but this is not the reason why we are Kurds and the Lors are from the north to the south of Iran. Lorestan is in the north of Iran and I do not have time to talk to you bye
@GLADIATOR! Do you have any evidence that we have stolen your language and clothes? We have had clothes, language and dance from the past until now, and now there are 15 million Lors in Iraq and Iran who have lived here since ancient times. And maybe you are stole our language and clothes(I’m always Lor laki from Loristan)
There is an unbelievable similarity between the curd culture and the wolf culture, and when I researched it, it says that curds differ from the Kurds.
@Osman i am lek and you right we are kurdish
I just bought a sword dagger from Luristan, 1200 B.C.. I have but one question, what was the religion of Lurs before Abrahamic religion? Was Mithraism relevant?
@Lur Zagrosneshin I wonder... What would need to happen politically, spiritually, pragmatically... in order to unify and create a new identity? In short, what would it take for the modern Tribes today to not only be willing but desire a new cultural and political alliance with, say, a new identity based on ancient Hellenic ideals? To syncretize, as Alexander the Great once wanted...
@Lur Zagrosneshin Thank you for your reply in advance. I will look into Zurvanism.
@Lur Zagrosneshin OH! I am aware of Zurvanism, to a degree... I know there was an inscription regarding Zurvan in the Kalmakara Cave... Is Zurvan synonymous to the Gnostic 'Demiurge'? I've read about Zurvan as the 'Lionish God'... The inscription reads thus :
"Behold, I have created the earth and what is in it and all that are living in it. I have created you, I am giving you your daily bread. Your living is in my hands, and your death too... I will excuse you and send you to my paradise if you put your trust in me, and forget about the God who is in Heaven. But you will be cast into Hell for ever if you worship the god who is in Heaven any more. Behold my wrath is going to fall upon you; it is waiting only for an answer from you. Turn you souls from the Heavenly God quickly." - Lionish-God (Irradiant) - excerpt via R.C Zaehner
Is this relevant?
Furthermore, what does Mithraism have to do with Zurvan?
@Lur Zagrosneshin The only reason I am semi-aware of Zurvanism, the inscription I typed out, and the Kalmakara Cave (a very important site for Mithraism in the Zagros mountains) is because the sword I bought that I commented here about is from that cave.. Very interesting... I for one believe Mithraism is not dead. The last Hellenic (Pagan) Emperor of Rome, Flavius Claudius Julianus, was a Mithraist.. He wanted to incorporate Mithraism into a new religion centered on Hades, Zeus~Jupiter & Helios~Sol Invictus... Mithras and the other Demigods & Heroes associated as well...
I am young, only 22, but I am learning information I feel is destined for something important... "Developing the message" as it were.. One day, I will meet face to face with those who have held onto these beliefs - from Luristan to the Himalayas, from Greece to Italy and Britain... Mysteries await to be found, and united..
@ايرانيه شهزنان کرمانشاهى Strange. The person I replied to deleted their posts..
I have a question about Lorestani culture, and specifically Lorestani women.
My great grandmother was from Borujerd, Lorestan. She had tattoos on her face, specifically the mouth area, the tattoos were dot like and blue green colored. I haven't been able to find much about anyone knowing tattoos among the Lors. Does anyone have knowledge about this and why the women would get tattoos on their faces?
من یک سوال در مورد فرهنگ لرستانی و به خصوص زنان لرستانی دارم.
مادربزرگم از بروجرد لرستان بود. او روی صورتش خالکوبی کرده بود ، مخصوصاً در ناحیه دهان ، خال کوبی های لکه دار و سبز آبی بود. من در مورد کسی که در میان لرها خال کوبی می داند چیز زیادی پیدا نکردم. آیا کسی در این مورد می داند و چرا زنان روی صورت خود خال کوبی می کنند؟
It's not only for women. I don't know why they getm them it probably has to do with the cheshm zakhm thing.
@@Oe258 what's cheshm zakhm? Do you also have any pictures of men wearing these tattoos? That would be great :)
@@Oe258ربطی به چشم زخم نداره داداش از هزاران سال پیش این تتو رو انجام میدادن لور ها
I don't think it's common among men. but they tattoo it next to their eye. as for cheshm zakhm it's like a curse from someone jealous of you. it's more complicated than that but that's how much I can explain.@@ladyterrapin1421
والا من که از تاریخش خبر ندارم ولی تا اونجایی که میدونم مربوطبه این چیزا میشه. حالا تنها چشم زخم نه دلایل دیگه ای داشت اینو از بینشون یادم بود@@Jiko8403
These are Kurds not Lors.. specifically Laki Kurds, Lors are Bakhtiaris, Kuh Giluyehis, Boyer Ahmads and Mamasanis. Even though these Lori groups are seperate they are actually almost come from Laks. There are many groups of Kurds like Kurmanj, Soran, Goran, Lak, Fayli, Zaza.
@S. K There is no such thing as lur fayli hahaha what are you on about.... Faylis are Kurds end of story mate.
@S. K That means they are Kurdish.
@S. K There is no persian ethnicity. Persian means Iranian. All Faylis are Kurds. Lurs are Bakhtiaris, Boyer Ahmadis, Qashqais, Mamasani, Koh Gioluyehis. Pahlawani is the zwan of the Kurds in the South i.e Pahlis/Faylis and Laks.
@S. K There doesnt exist any ethnicity called persian. There is persia the land but the actual persians only existed in the achaemnid era.
@S. K there is both feyli lur and feyli kurd. Feyli from xorramabad are lurs. Feylis in Îlam, Xaneqîn, qasra shirin are kurds.
Lorestan is home to the Lurs.
Many kurds in the comment section are trying to claim that the people in Lorestan are mainly Kurds. (I even saw they were claming that the Zands were Kurds.)
But dont get this wrong that the people in Lorestan are mainly Lurs Because as some comments pointed it out, they hace Laks and Kurds among them.
These tribes get along with each other very well and count themselves as brothers.
But its really sad to see the Kurds are trying to make history and claim things that is not theirs
Kurmanj , Zaza Hewremî soran Goran lekî bahdîni and Lur =Kurd.
No not lor
Badini is kurmanji
خیر بنده لک لرستان هستم.
کردها ❤️را دوست داریم اما پانکرد ها چرت می‌گویند.
همه ایرانی هستیم این مهم است.🇮🇷🇮🇷
ما لرها کرد نیستیم.
کرد ها هم بخشی از لک و لر نیستند.
زور نزنید. قومیت گراهای تازه به دوران رسیده.
گور پدر و مادرت پانکرد دا جنه. ما لر هستیم .چه لک چه بختیاری چه بوییری چه ثلاث و بالاگریوه. ریدم وسط پانکرد
Kurds are nomads of Persia
Ever since I was little I remember Iran has always tried to make lurs separate from Kurds just like how turkey try’s to separate zaza from Kurds, but we know our true identity, biji Kurd ✌️✌️✌️
Zaza and Lurs are different from Kurds.
I have a Zaza Döner-Kebap maker around the corner. We talked about where he came from. He said Bingöl. I asked if he was Kurdish or Turkish. He said I'm neither. I'm Zaza. I was like aren't they Kurds? And he said no, those fascist Kurds always tell that we are part of them but it's not like that. I don't even understand what they are talking. Their language is totally different.
I am kassi and these land belong to us but some kurd say they are kurd but kurd were near to us in everything lur and Bakhtiari are real kassi mean from kassites
Kelhur.lur.hewrami.baxtiyari.kurmanj.sorani. gorani.zaza.beluch.family ethnic kurdish people.median aryan.biji kurd.
Laks (lurs) are very cool people
Laks are kurdish not lor mate
@@rxma_uchiha4974 but these guys in the video are definitly lurs + the very majority of laks don't identify as kurds
All have to be respect by their own identity.
Any Hindu here?
Look this musical instrument
It is related to sindhu civilization
They separated the lor from us, we won't let you separate the laki 💚☀️♥️
@ye mard Tanha Lak Kurdish
Lak is lor 😎
We are lor all of us and we are proud of that
@@andreskiani3932 and have do u know we are a minority😂😂
@@andreskiani3932 then why I don't see this in lorestan?
Stop this race race thing we live in 21 century
Lol, all these people in these comment section are questioning lurs. Stop it!! Lurs are neiter kurds or lacks. I'm not honna comment on lacks but evidence of Lurs are much older than lacks, these clothes are all luri, maybe you discuss about this because of golvani, while even there's no evidence of that
@K _ S stop giving false information! Literary language!? Laki is something between luri and kurdish and laks are kurd or lur
@K _ S لکی زبان هنری لرها نیست ، فعلا که لک ها رو کلا از ما جدا کردن لباس ها مون رو هم به اسم لک ها دارن میزنن ،گلونی رو که تا حالا زدن، شما هم هی بیا بدترش کن با این منابعت،
@K _ S عزیز جان شما خودتو لر میبینی ولی برو پایینتر بقیه اینطور نیستن، کلا چیزی به اسم لر رو قبول ندارن، همونطور که گفتم زبان لکی بین لری و کردی هست واین دوزبان از پارسی میانه هستن، اگر قرار باشه به زبانی شبیه باشه پارسی باستان هست نه اوستایی، اوستایی از پارسی باستان متفاوته و پارسی باستان هم از پارسی میانه ،درسته در قدیم توجه بیشتری به زبان لکی میشده، ما لرها لک ها رو لر می دونیم کردها هم کرد،
@K _ S بنده سکن لرستان نیستم برای همین زیاد اطلاعی ندارم از مناطق مختلفش ولی هر سال مدت زیادی خرم آباد ساکن هستم و توی فامیل هامون هم لک هستن ، ما بین خودمون به هم دیگه با زبون اشاره میکنیم ،یعنی کسی که لکی صحبت میکنه میگیم لک و به کسانی که لری صحبت میکنن میگیم لر، میدونم که خیلیاشون خودشون رو لر میدونن، یک سری تجزیه طلب که همه جا هستن ولی از وقتی که دیدم روسری گلونی فقط به اسم قوم لک ثبت شده این پیامدها بیشتر شده، من واقعا مدرکی پیدا نکردم که متعلق به کجاست تا جایی هم که میدونم تمام مردم زاگرس استفاده میکردن ، کردها هم یکسری ها مخصوصا خارج از کشور کل لرها رو هم به اسم کرد زدن، واقعا لرها و لک ها جزو زبانشون تفاوتی ندارن،من نمیدونم ریششون ممکنه از کجا بوده باشه چه لر چه لک، ولی هر دو ایرانی هستن و در صلح با همن، منظورم اینه که خیلی راحت با هم وصلت میکنن و رفت و آمد دارن در صورتی که مثلا کرد ها با اینکه اون ها هم خیلی به ما نزدیکن ولی اینقدر راحت نمیشه معاشرت کرد، حرف شما هم راجب یکسری بچه که اینترنت دستشون گرفتن کاملا درسته، زبان لکی برای نوشتن راحت تر بود نسبت به لری و شعرهای زیادی هم باقی مونده به صورت کتبی
@K _ S درود بر شما، 🌹 پاینده باشید
لک ها لر نیستند
Stop saying lurs are kurdish you kids
then don’t say laks are lur
I am Lur i am Kurd ☀️
@@mahmutolcay1748 and why were you born in Türkiye? You sure your not Turkish? Did you make an DNA Test?
Real Lurs are from Boyer Ahmad, Mamasani (southern lurs). I'm from Mamasani myself originally. Laki is a Kurdish, not Luri
Kurds are four groups in Sharafnamah : Kurmanj, Goran, Kelhur, Lur.
Before 9-10 centuries ago two new Kurdish dialects were created : Sorani and Laki.
Sorani is combination between Gorani and Kurmanji.
Laki is also a combination between Kalhuri and Gorani.
Sorani, Kelhuri, and Laki are almost the same. True there are differences between (Sorani, Laki, Kelhuri) and other Luri dialects (Mamasani, Boyer Ahmad), but it doesn't mean you are not Kurdish
@@sahand2642 ya, Lurs aren't Kurds. You may not know this, but "kurd" wasn't an ethnic designation in the past. Lurs being labeled as "Kurds" in the past didn't mean they were ethnic Kurds.
@@arman_1024
You serious ? Hahahah
@@arman_1024
Hahahahah of course you know everything. I know you are master hahahahah.
@@arman_1024 yes kurd was an etnic group at that time. But lurs are not kurds and i dont know why people at that time thought lurs a kurds.
I am a kurd and i say lurs are not kurds. Dont listen to him.
No mention of how theyre part of the Romani/Gypsy diaspora..
I'm lors lak 😍
Lor are kurd
Laks are Kurds
Laks are not Lurs
@@nazikurd8791 laks and lurs are KURDS
@Zurvān Lureso it’s true
Not Lur They Lak Kurdish
من لک هستم خودمو لر میدونم نه کورد
@ايرانيه شهزنان کرمانشاهى پانکورد هست
Laks and feylis are both lure kuchak.
@@user-zp7fx4gy4u gbx
@شهزنان کرمانشاهى bayhtiaris are lurs but lak isn’t
I am Lak, and I've studied a lot of Lak history. We are not Lur. If anything.... Lurs are Lak. Laks are historically older than Lurs. We are the origins of the Kurdish diaspora. In fact, all of Kermanshah was once Lakestan. The Lurs of Bakhtiyari and Kuychek are a mix of Laks with a different ethnic group. Laks are genetically closer to all the other Kurdish groups than to any Bakhtiyari Lur or Kuychek Lur. I can send you this article if you wish to see it, it was published out of Lorestan University.
i m also historian. İ m lack of knowledge of İranian etnic groups. Can you give me please some knowledge? Lurs, beloches. İ know only where they live. İ want to learn that Lurs are kurd or not ? what do they feel about etnic origin? and baloches are kurdish?
@matin lurkurd Do lurs think they are kurd? For example in Turkey %50 of Zazas think they are not Kurd and they see Kurds their enemy. Other half of Zazas see himself Kurd (more than Kurds 🙂)
@matin lurkurd how about Lur population? Lurs can understand kurmanci?
@matin lurkurdare lurs shia or sunni?
@matin lurkurd you are still a mystery to me.
سرزمین مادری زیبامون رو از فروختن به چین کمونیستی در پناه بگیریم ❤️❤️
@ايرانيه شهزنان کرمانشاهى چون بهتره باید بفروشیم به اون ؟
I think Luri tribe are Albanian 🇦🇱 by roots , Their ancesor Was part of Alexander the great warriors.
I'd say they have a stronger affinity with the Elamites and Medes based on linguist, geography, culture and politics.
No bro we are just kurdisch
@@ramtinrad3272
No
@@TheObserversTV
No as Lur Bozorg we come from central and east Asia even a lot of our people look east Asia ln
The whole world is albanian
Lurs are Kurds, don't talk, man.
Bro lurs are not kurd. Not everyone can be a kurd.
Lur = iran :)
@@Sanmadaya Lur And Goran, Laki, Kurmanc Soran Zaza Kelhur Caf Feyli... = KURD
@@Vefai-Kurdi bra you see all the lurs in the comment? They say different.
We aren't kurd but love our
another iranian brothers
KURDİSH= KURMANCİ, SORANİ, GORANİ, LORANİ, HEWRAMİ, LEKİ, KELHURİ, FEYLİ WE ARE KURDİSH FAMİLY
LOR ARE ASİMİLATED BY SHİA PERSİAN, LOR ARE KURDİSH, WE ARE ONE CULTURE AND MOUNTAİN MEDİAN KURDS ❤️🌹
گوه نخور کونی لک ها لر هستند لر ها خودشون قوم هستند کورد نیستند
باشه بابا خودتو پاره کردی زیر هر ویدیویی که اهنگ لری داره کامنت گذاشتی حالا از پای دستگاهت پاشو برو به زندگیت برس. از دکتر هم یه دارو بگیر به این جفنگیاتت پایان بده.
من لورم من کوردم ☀️
@@mahmutolcay1748 تو فقط کوردی
@@Oe258 تو هم کیر منی
Thats Kurdish culture
U sure u know their culture better than themselves. I don't think kurds dress or dance like that. They don't even speak the same language
Kurdish people cultures
Lur=Kurd
چه گوه خوری ها🤣
Nope we are not same
@CoolGamer 85 kera mn kurdm. Lur is not kurd. Not everyone is a kurd!
I love Kurds but no we are not Kurds
گوع نخور مادرجندا لر خودش قومی هست
Kurd lur💛💚❤✌✌✌✌
We are not kurds bastar.d
ما کورد نیستم لک ها لر هستند
@@servantofsusa There is an unbelievable resemblance to the Kurdish culture of the lur culture, but where does this curd culture clothing dance come from? The folk dance of the lords is almost the same as that of the Kurds. so if the lors aren't kurds why are some of their clothes and dances the same as kurds??
@@user-zp7fx4gy4u There is an unbelievable resemblance to the Kurdish culture of the lur culture, but where does this curd culture clothing dance come from? The folk dance of the lords is almost the same as that of the Kurds. so if the lors aren't kurds why are some of their clothes and dances the same as kurds??
@@tekhayat5995 our Gene's are different and no our dance is not like kurds neither our language some of us that are close to Kurds have a similar culture with kurds for being infected or mirages ur Gene's are closest to balochs our is closest to gils we are brutal and you are weak we are not the same even if we were the same that we are not our people never accept such a thing
They original Kurds
@Ahmed Yasin not Kurmanc From Bakur
@Ahmed Yasin origin kurmanc bakur ?
@Ahmed Yasin where are you from ez Wan
@Ahmed Yasin Slaw bo te braye delal
@Ahmed Yasin bra tu çen saleyi ?
I am Lak. I am not Lor. Please no more false panLor propaganda and misinformation. Do your research.
Luri language is same like Kurdish. One day we will 1 nation as like LURISTAN confederation in the past BC. My brothers sisters in Loristan protect your language please. Protect your beautiful culture. One day we will 1 nation as like LURISTAN confederation in the past BC.
Bra why should we unite with them. They have nothing to do with us. They are just our neighbors. Nothing more and nothing less.
Yes definitely I agree luri people are old ancient Kurdish people likewise zazas so as we will see in all history book luri dialects and Kurdish language has a lot similarities so the one who don’t see themself as Kurdish is because of discriminate and assimilation policies of Iranian government as we will see zazas people in turkey were same scared of admitted to they are Kurdish so on this sentence to who doesn’t seeing themself as Kurdish I have really good advice if they don’t think they are Kurdish they can do dna test or they can research about iranin or Turkish history where did they came please do not let the those government lies get into your head you’re all Kurdish petty soon will be under one nation
@@emrecoach89 Lur is southern Iranic and kurdish is northern Iranic.
So kurds are more related to Persian. Laks are a little different. But Salasi luri is Persian
@@gorg5494 well those re not my opinion or my statement. I not making those staff, there are people; professors,historians archaeologist they’ve find a lot evidence and proof that luri people are considering Kurds… also Kurds are not northern iranian, Kurds has nothing to do whit Persian people. Kurds are related aryan nation. Yes Kurdish language has some similarities whit Persian language but that doesn’t mean Kurds are persian or related also Kurdish langue has similarities whit Turkish and Arabic as well. I didn’t make that comment by my own opinion it's not my opinion, it’s a reality, it’s a fact so also alevites people, Yazidi people as well as Zazaki people from turkey they've been assimilated from those government it's all just policy of Iran, turkey and Arabs to assimilate and refused to say Kurds are existed since world war 2 exactly during ottoman and Persian empire period they’ve been always refuse the say Kurds exist. The Kurdish language has 5 accents Gorani, Sorani, Zazaki, Kurmanji, and lurs, the Persian language has 4,5 accents as well as Turkish also Arabic. Also, the Kurdish language is the 9th richest language in the world whit over 700 words
@@gorg5494 and also the Aryan nation is not just related to Persian or Kurdish British and some European people are related to the Aryan people as well 👌
Zende bad Iran🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷
Lurs is Are Kurds ☀️😊☀️😊☀️
yes
Yes they are
@Cetori_-_Xubi Yes...
@Cetori_-_Xubi
Yes they are Kurds
@@sahand2642 Lurs aren't Kurds. That's nothing more than Kurdish propaganda. try reading something that wasn't written in Iraqi Kurdistan
Lor hemû Kurdin
برو.. خدا جایی دیگه روزیتو بده..
@Sorush Lorestanian LOL
@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî Goo hardid
@Ardaşire Korde Lorestanî bram şêxbizni are laks not lurs.
We love Kurds and were similar to them but we are closer to Persian people
LORISTAN ARE KURDISTAN LORI THEY ARE KURDS NO IRANIER
IRAN=DIKTATOR
IRAN DIKTATOR
@Lur Zagrosneshin DREAM JUST DREAM
LORESTAN IS KURDISTANS HEART❤❤❤
@@xonavmizouri286 Your Mom is a dictator. You become a cancer in that region and destroy your own identity. LORS are not KURDS!