I can recommend the book by Gerda Potgieter, 'A Journey to the Truth', the case of KwaSizaBantu Mission. It will give this whole thing in a different light.
I've always known there was something wrong in Sizabantu...my half sisters mom and her sister were never the same after they came back from Sizabantu!!!!till this day tbey are mentally disturbed!!!
I am shocked! I visited this place briefly some years back, they had just had a fire at the Church Auditorium and were doing repairs. I remember someone in our group heard from one of the kitchen staff that they were not allowed to vote. I did get an eery feeling when we went up to an upstairs lounge and were shown a video about the mission and how it started. For some odd reason, I couldn't wait to get out of that lounge.
The enermy only comes to still, kill, destroy but he is a lier ...ive been for 6 years ive neva heard any such..we gonna to God for you kwasizabantu people stay strong in the Lord ...love you forever
I visit Kwasizabantu regularly, it truly is a place of God. They are people who show so much true respect and love to every person. They encourage you so much and never judge you when you make a mistake. All this negativity is so sad instead of judging a one sided story a person should first go and see for themselves. May this women realise that only God can take away such a a deep pain. Lying and negativity will never solve pain, hurt and bitterness.
Same here my Brother,i have been visiting KSB since i was a little boy,i know uncle Erlo personally and Ditma Jostein,his late brother Philip and his twin brother Andre etc.The whole expose sound far fetched and does not match the character and reputation of KSB.There is more into this story than meets the eye,it is just a matter of time before we know exactly the reasons behind destroying such a wonderful place of worship.I commit myself to a special prayer and fasting for KSB.To GOD alone be the Glory🙏🏾.
Y'all are honestly narrow minded if y'all still encourage such people, they've done a whole investigation & news24 has reported that there have been abuse,rape & beatings. Its always been accused of being a cult. Please get y'all mind out of the gutters. Just because they put up a facade you guys choice to believe that they all Godly, mxm. If this was such a holy place & what not then why would there be allegations!!
I've also found live after three weeks at the mission. I'll be forever grateful! People with true norms and values. Rev Stegan and other male staff would not even speak to a woman without others present. Same goes for the ladies. Respect! Now these lies!
InshaAllah you are safe n your fight for JUSTICE for everyone on the farms is taken to the highest courts. My nephew had went there and ran away n not sure why .
Question: : Marietjie did not give a straight answer to whether or not she reported the incident to police - instead she deviated & talked about the many years she tried reaching out to the media. Does this suggest that Marietjie never went to the police? Did she only try going to the media? Did the police not help her? why now? I really cannot imagine a community of Christians who do everything to help people, make Marietjie feel scared for her life. This really - to me anyway - sounds so far fetched, so malicious.
@@anamariamoisiuc4873 Yes, what's more... Mariekie has been in the media since 2014, she is a well known TV personality - you can just search her name & surname on TH-cam and see that she's been allover on SA television. She had no problem with contacting media. SO why all these years do nothing but now since there is a known plot (evidence was submitted to CRL) to takeover the works at the mission?
You have not lived in the atmosphere of KwaSizabantu. They will literally take over your life. My family is destroyed thanks to the KwaSizabantu. I now live happy and Alhamdulillaah I converted to Islam. But this place is an evil place. For more than 20 years I had to live with their ideology and it really ruins people. Only Erlo stegen is right and if you doubt that you are seen as a “rebel, a disbeliever, etc”
Go there as a visitor and stay for 14 days for free and free meals three times a day those days they'll be enough for you to get all the evidence you need and prove everything for yourself. The treatment i got there was absolutely mind blowing... These people try all they xan yo practice the Holy Spirit Driven Life... There might be some mistakes here and there these are human remember but overall God is there Trust me on that one
Am sorry for what they did to you girls,my mom worked there for many years at that mission .we were treated so nice .my mom builded her house with the money she made we were not Forced to anything my mom had her long hair but covers when is prayer times and there was no of kids farming. My mom left when she finished building her house and my self I live in overseas now.am not even a born again Christian.am in shock
@@elizabethmarx8144 hahahaha ooooh hell yes do accept your “donations”. Haha you clearly don’t know shit woman! If you do not give them, they will have a whole sermon about “giving back to the lord”
Go there as a visitor and stay for 14 days for free and free meals three times a day those days they'll be enough for you to get all the evidence you need and prove everything for yourself. The treatment i got there was absolutely mind blowing... These people try all they xan yo practice the Holy Spirit Driven Life... There might be some mistakes here and there these are human remember but overall God is there Trust me on that one
Oh my God, how will these so called missionaries escape the punishment of God. Marietjie, you are so precious and my heart bleeds for you. May our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ protect and keep you.🙏🙏🙌🙌🛐✝️
I m not sure how yu ll escape. You knew the right way, i suppose. Your conscience is dirty, m sure. Stopped cleaning your life before God? Speak as you do, against Truth. It s obvious she s saying lies. I found life there at Kwasizabantu. Finaly, life, after so much desert.
I know that man Stegen I did salads in his kitchen with my hands so as I said I was young too and 1993. No body child was working at farm at my own recalling.God must quickly reveal the truth if they are guilty justice will be made.
King Dawid also made the mistake to cut the garment of King Saul....he had to repent The Mission served the community over many decades and served the Kingdom faithfully.....people are people and make mistakes but the track record of this Mission exceeds the disgruntled opinion of any person by far !!! Let us all humble ourselves and repent of our own wrongs Let us never become offended and avoid spiritual leprosy by touching servants faithfully doing the work of the Lord to the best of their ability..... Anyone who dares complaining......start your own mission and run it for 50 yrs.....then say something Amen
"... exceeds the disgruntled opinion of any person by far..." Allegations of rape and abuse aren't mere "opinion" as you use the term. Violations of human rights aren't "opinion" as you use the term. I don't think any kind of good faith conversation is to be had with anyone who would say such. So, I'll just put it out into the atmosphere how despicable this comment is, especially in the context of this country's relationship with human rights. Absolutely disgusting especially with the veneer of religious purity. This is why I'm atheist.
Scary stuff, I went to their youth camp in 2014. I remember hearing that people were thrown out of the conference in the middle of the night for smoking, mind you we were brought there by a provided transport and these were poor people who had no means of getting themselves home and the area is apparently not the safest place to be at night. Also, I spoke to a lot of people people who were in the rehab centre and they spoke about beatings, but I dismissed it as lies from individuals hooked on drugs. I'm not very surprised these allegations have been kept under wraps for so long, the church has a lot of clout. The conference I attended was addressed by the then IFP leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi, the then finance minister Nhlanhla Nene, the former SABC head of news Phill Molefe, if I'm my mind serves correctly, and then first lady MaKhumalo was in attendance. I'm sure it takes serious political clout to get such people to attend a church youth conference. Oh, and I remember them boasting about how the children of king Goodwill Zwelithini used to attend the conference when they were youths. I'm not saying the allegations are true, but one can imagine how they have evaded scrutiny from officialdom.
It's sickening what money can buy. Just because people do good (supply food, shelter, rehab etc) doesn't mean they are good people. The Devil has many faces.
Didn't they know the rules beforehand - not to smoke? It is not allowed - also drugs and alcohol. You deserve to be thrown out of you do not follow the rules. They shouldn't have gone there then. No beatings are happening there. Stories from people who turned against God, against the mission, whose lives are destroyed already - they chose satan
Kwasizabantu Mission is a great place. If this place was so terrible it wouldnt get thousands of visitors a year! Ive been there many times! Its a very peaceful place.
You didn’t live in their atmosphere... if you stay for a short time, it is no problem. But the longer you stay, the more they will take your life over.
Elizabeth Marx i have been with the KwaSizabantu for more than 20 years... my brother currently lives with them. I know where i am talking about... please don’t come here on the internet telling how beautiful of a place it is. Because i know out of own experience that it literally ruins family’s!
people must stop asking others how to react to their trauma. The police are sometimes not helpful , they don't beleive victims and accuse children of lying. Stop blaming people -you are not in their shoes please.
This is a interview with one person. Speak to the thousands of drug addicts that have gone through their rehabilitation facilities. Speak to the Zulu community. Then report. One sided argument. Will continue to support aQuelle.
Interview with one person??? Maybe this particular interview was with one person, but there are a massive lot of other interviews also!! And there was a 7 month investigation. Do you really think somebody woke up one morning saying "what shit can I cause today? Lets keep somebody busy and see how much untruth can we create in 7 months. Just for the heck of it!" Come on guys, just think...this can't all be lies.
It's not surprising that people don't want anything to do with God. These people are self righteous bigots that give outsiders the false impression that God is angry with them. They don't show the love and grace of Jesus...
Yes you were chased away in 1999 - your own words. You didn't follow the rules. Here you acknowledge that. We all know that KSN doesn't tolerate anyone not following the rules. That is why they have a high success rate - the school, the college, people visiting there - all receive healings and blessings
It's a business its human sacrifice for money and power are you blind ? This women's life is in danger for her speaking out why would she put her life in danger ? Because her whole life was pain and suffering due to this farm owners and she knows death is not worst than her sufferring and others sufferring so she has to do something now or never . Maybe You would shit in your pants but never tell the truth to save another . She is being brave.
Elizabeth, I know this is an old thread, but I'll reply anyway. The anger in your tone is exactly what one finds in KSB and Erlo Stegen. When I was 11 years old we visited KSB for several weeks as my parents considered moving there. Thank God we never did. I have listened to the testimonies given in the last year and I think 2 things : 1. The witnesses are simply to many in number to be dismissed. 2. People like Marietjie and Erika Bornmann are driven as far away as possible from anything resembling Christianity by the unspeakable pain and trauma, hence the revealing clothing and other lifestyle choices. Do not hammer her for this.
@@lieslkruger8603 She is s liar and that is a fact. I know she and others were paid to lie. I only have good memories of the place. All my friends whom I have contact with there are happy. As its been some time, I wonder what happened to all of these liars with adriaan basson
@@elizabethmarx8144, 3 quick points : 1. I would not deny that there is a good side to KSB. It is obvious from the utter abundance of both positive AND negative testimonies over the course of decades that there must be some truth in both. 2. To claim with so much confidence that it is a fact that she is a liar, begs more concrete reasons for your claim. On what basis do you say that she is lying? 3. Some food for thought : quoting from Erika Bornman's book 'Mission of Malice'... "Erlo would often preach from the pulpit that it's okay to lie if you're lying to protect God's work." (page 135)
This ought to be thoroughly interrogated, before we have a Jonestown or Waco incident in our own backyard...
I can recommend the book by Gerda Potgieter, 'A Journey to the Truth', the case of KwaSizaBantu Mission. It will give this whole thing in a different light.
This is where Aquelle comes from. And they supply veggies for Woolworths. I am horrified by this story!
No need to be horrified. Do some research.
I've always known there was something wrong in Sizabantu...my half sisters mom and her sister were never the same after they came back from Sizabantu!!!!till this day tbey are mentally disturbed!!!
I am shocked! I visited this place briefly some years back, they had just had a fire at the Church Auditorium and were doing repairs. I remember someone in our group heard from one of the kitchen staff that they were not allowed to vote. I did get an eery feeling when we went up to an upstairs lounge and were shown a video about the mission and how it started. For some odd reason, I couldn't wait to get out of that lounge.
You could feel the evil that was there
You should have stayed. There is no evil in that place. Holy grounds!
Believe me, thank your gut, your instincts.
They were right
Yes, it is indeed a heavenly place, I have known it for 15 years
The enermy only comes to still, kill, destroy but he is a lier ...ive been for 6 years ive neva heard any such..we gonna to God for you kwasizabantu people stay strong in the Lord ...love you forever
I visit Kwasizabantu regularly, it truly is a place of God. They are people who show so much true respect and love to every person. They encourage you so much and never judge you when you make a mistake. All this negativity is so sad instead of judging a one sided story a person should first go and see for themselves. May this women realise that only God can take away such a a deep pain. Lying and negativity will never solve pain, hurt and bitterness.
Same here my Brother,i have been visiting KSB since i was a little boy,i know uncle Erlo personally and Ditma Jostein,his late brother Philip and his twin brother Andre etc.The whole expose sound far fetched and does not match the character and reputation of KSB.There is more into this story than meets the eye,it is just a matter of time before we know exactly the reasons behind destroying such a wonderful place of worship.I commit myself to a special prayer and fasting for KSB.To GOD alone be the Glory🙏🏾.
Y'all are honestly narrow minded if y'all still encourage such people, they've done a whole investigation & news24 has reported that there have been abuse,rape & beatings. Its always been accused of being a cult. Please get y'all mind out of the gutters. Just because they put up a facade you guys choice to believe that they all Godly, mxm. If this was such a holy place & what not then why would there be allegations!!
@@angiek3113 N24 is known for spreading lies and fake news
I've also found live after three weeks at the mission. I'll be forever grateful! People with true norms and values. Rev Stegan and other male staff would not even speak to a woman without others present. Same goes for the ladies. Respect! Now these lies!
@@princemabaso8376 I'm with you Prince Mabaso!
What's the verdict to date?
InshaAllah you are safe n your fight for JUSTICE for everyone on the farms is taken to the highest courts. My nephew had went there and ran away n not sure why .
He ran away cause he either had drugs, alcohol or cigarettes with him
Elizabeth Marx you are a troll arent you? Maybe one of the leaders? Il hack your pc and find out who and where you are
@@Vtarotttt Are you threatening ME??? I'm going to the authorities with this
Question:
: Marietjie did not give a straight answer to whether or not she reported the incident to police - instead she deviated & talked about the many years she tried reaching out to the media. Does this suggest that Marietjie never went to the police? Did she only try going to the media? Did the police not help her? why now?
I really cannot imagine a community of Christians who do everything to help people, make Marietjie feel scared for her life. This really - to me anyway - sounds so far fetched, so malicious.
I thought the same way. Something doesn t feet in her answer. One have to be blind and deaf to believe her.
@@anamariamoisiuc4873 Yes, what's more... Mariekie has been in the media since 2014, she is a well known TV personality - you can just search her name & surname on TH-cam and see that she's been allover on SA television. She had no problem with contacting media. SO why all these years do nothing but now since there is a known plot (evidence was submitted to CRL) to takeover the works at the mission?
You have not lived in the atmosphere of KwaSizabantu. They will literally take over your life. My family is destroyed thanks to the KwaSizabantu. I now live happy and Alhamdulillaah I converted to Islam. But this place is an evil place. For more than 20 years I had to live with their ideology and it really ruins people. Only Erlo stegen is right and if you doubt that you are seen as a “rebel, a disbeliever, etc”
interesting, my family has been united since we met kwasizabantu. they were our support and spiritual help. There is a place of peace!
Go there as a visitor and stay for 14 days for free and free meals three times a day those days they'll be enough for you to get all the evidence you need and prove everything for yourself.
The treatment i got there was absolutely mind blowing... These people try all they xan yo practice the Holy Spirit Driven Life... There might be some mistakes here and there these are human remember but overall God is there Trust me on that one
Am sorry for what they did to you girls,my mom worked there for many years at that mission .we were treated so nice .my mom builded her house with the money she made we were not Forced to anything my mom had her long hair but covers when is prayer times and there was no of kids farming. My mom left when she finished building her house and my self I live in overseas now.am not even a born again Christian.am in shock
How your mother was helped by the mission like thousands of people. It is normal to throw stones and lies in such a wonderful work!
Oh! they own 30 different farms as well🥺🥺
And that time I don't even have 1.
Lies. They help people on these farms. They do not accept any financial donations. Doesn't that say something?
And they have established missions on these farms
@@elizabethmarx8144 hahahaha ooooh hell yes do accept your “donations”. Haha you clearly don’t know shit woman! If you do not give them, they will have a whole sermon about “giving back to the lord”
It sounds like a cult
No it is not. Go there.
It is a cult
Go there as a visitor and stay for 14 days for free and free meals three times a day those days they'll be enough for you to get all the evidence you need and prove everything for yourself.
The treatment i got there was absolutely mind blowing... These people try all they xan yo practice the Holy Spirit Driven Life... There might be some mistakes here and there these are human remember but overall God is there Trust me on that one
The world is coming to an end. Lots of wickedness will still be revealed during 2020 not only in South Africa, but the whole world.
The only wicked in this case is M24 and their false witnesses
@@elizabethmarx8144you're brainwashed
Christianity is under attack
Oh my God, how will these so called missionaries escape the punishment of God. Marietjie, you are so precious and my heart bleeds for you. May our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ protect and keep you.🙏🙏🙌🙌🛐✝️
I m not sure how yu ll escape. You knew the right way, i suppose. Your conscience is dirty, m sure. Stopped cleaning your life before God? Speak as you do, against Truth. It s obvious she s saying lies. I found life there at Kwasizabantu. Finaly, life, after so much desert.
@@anamariamoisiuc4873 Absolutely Anamaria. She is a liar! This is very disturbing. The place saved and changed my life!
I escaped from there 7 month ago 🥺
@@clarisse_rdg1173are you always in south africa ?
@@obedb4473 no im not
Eish sad story 😥
I know that man Stegen I did salads in his kitchen with my hands so as I said I was young too and 1993. No body child was working at farm at my own recalling.God must quickly reveal the truth if they are guilty justice will be made.
King Dawid also made the mistake to cut the garment of King Saul....he had to repent
The Mission served the community over many decades and served the Kingdom faithfully.....people are people and make mistakes but the track record of this Mission exceeds the disgruntled opinion of any person by far !!!
Let us all humble ourselves and repent of our own wrongs
Let us never become offended and avoid spiritual leprosy by touching servants faithfully doing the work of the Lord to the best of their ability.....
Anyone who dares complaining......start your own mission and run it for 50 yrs.....then say something
Amen
"... exceeds the disgruntled opinion of any person by far..."
Allegations of rape and abuse aren't mere "opinion" as you use the term. Violations of human rights aren't "opinion" as you use the term. I don't think any kind of good faith conversation is to be had with anyone who would say such.
So, I'll just put it out into the atmosphere how despicable this comment is, especially in the context of this country's relationship with human rights. Absolutely disgusting especially with the veneer of religious purity. This is why I'm atheist.
Scary stuff, I went to their youth camp in 2014. I remember hearing that people were thrown out of the conference in the middle of the night for smoking, mind you we were brought there by a provided transport and these were poor people who had no means of getting themselves home and the area is apparently not the safest place to be at night. Also, I spoke to a lot of people people who were in the rehab centre and they spoke about beatings, but I dismissed it as lies from individuals hooked on drugs. I'm not very surprised these allegations have been kept under wraps for so long, the church has a lot of clout. The conference I attended was addressed by the then IFP leader Mangosuthu Buthelezi, the then finance minister Nhlanhla Nene, the former SABC head of news Phill Molefe, if I'm my mind serves correctly, and then first lady MaKhumalo was in attendance. I'm sure it takes serious political clout to get such people to attend a church youth conference. Oh, and I remember them boasting about how the children of king Goodwill Zwelithini used to attend the conference when they were youths. I'm not saying the allegations are true, but one can imagine how they have evaded scrutiny from officialdom.
It's sickening what money can buy. Just because people do good (supply food, shelter, rehab etc) doesn't mean they are good people. The Devil has many faces.
Didn't they know the rules beforehand - not to smoke? It is not allowed - also drugs and alcohol. You deserve to be thrown out of you do not follow the rules. They shouldn't have gone there then. No beatings are happening there. Stories from people who turned against God, against the mission, whose lives are destroyed already - they chose satan
Well said..
Thx man, I like your neat, differentiating response to the video
@@karenhughes4588 Amen
Kwasizabantu Mission is a great place. If this place was so terrible it wouldnt get thousands of visitors a year! Ive been there many times! Its a very peaceful place.
Me too! Holy grounds - peaceful, fantastic
You didn’t live in their atmosphere... if you stay for a short time, it is no problem. But the longer you stay, the more they will take your life over.
@@rivkab137 Why would 'they' want your 'life' - never mind 'taking it over'? Hahaha. Ridiculous statements. Why are my friends there happy??
@@rivkab137 th-cam.com/video/DKMgVMP8lFI/w-d-xo.html
Elizabeth Marx i have been with the KwaSizabantu for more than 20 years... my brother currently lives with them. I know where i am talking about... please don’t come here on the internet telling how beautiful of a place it is. Because i know out of own experience that it literally ruins family’s!
If people were assaulted why did they never lay charges and no convictions were ever issued by any court of law.
Isn't that what she's doing
people must stop asking others how to react to their trauma. The police are sometimes not helpful , they don't beleive victims and accuse children of lying. Stop blaming people -you are not in their shoes please.
I was a fan of Erlo
This is a interview with one person. Speak to the thousands of drug addicts that have gone through their rehabilitation facilities. Speak to the Zulu community. Then report. One sided argument. Will continue to support aQuelle.
Interview with one person??? Maybe this particular interview was with one person, but there are a massive lot of other interviews also!! And there was a 7 month investigation. Do you really think somebody woke up one morning saying "what shit can I cause today? Lets keep somebody busy and see how much untruth can we create in 7 months. Just for the heck of it!" Come on guys, just think...this can't all be lies.
@@johanmouton2669 It is all lies!
Allegations three years ago... but NO update. It says it all. Going better than ever at Kwasizabantu. May all you liars burn in hell.
It's not surprising that people don't want anything to do with God. These people are self righteous bigots that give outsiders the false impression that God is angry with them. They don't show the love and grace of Jesus...
Have you been there? I have! They show love and grace only!
Yes you were chased away in 1999 - your own words. You didn't follow the rules. Here you acknowledge that. We all know that KSN doesn't tolerate anyone not following the rules. That is why they have a high success rate - the school, the college, people visiting there - all receive healings and blessings
You in every comment. You disgusting
@@Shadow4977 1. There were no abuse. You still don't know?? 2. I have one account and had it for many years.
I personally know people who are mentally disturbed till this day fro. Sizabantu!!!
@@nongcebomchunu3894 I don't believe you for one second. Name them
Jonestowm
I feel they should close down that business
For what? Don't speak when you do not know the facts
Four years on, and the mission is flourishing
Boycott Aquelle
I have since years earlier when I visited there and heard that the staff are not allowed to vote.
NEVER!
I didn't ask SABC to chase anything lady stop acting like I owe you
People will do anything for publisity! And to get recognized
Belinda Stigin you are so right! Wonderful to see people are awake
@Who Where Really? Check out her FB page! Confirmed.
@Who Where I'm afraid I'm not. Look at the woman's FB page!
Jessuu🤔
This is sketchy
I'm not buying this story. Sounds like A LOT of salt and pepper was added to try and sell it...
Agreed
@@billmay3885 ... ,
It's a business its human sacrifice for money and power are you blind ? This women's life is in danger for her speaking out why would she put her life in danger ? Because her whole life was pain and suffering due to this farm owners and she knows death is not worst than her sufferring and others sufferring so she has to do something now or never . Maybe You would shit in your pants but never tell the truth to save another . She is being brave.
@@suhailuzair You are blind!
Maybe, but it was still important for some open discussion which now we have :)
Careful!! u abuse with your words, dear. Rather make time and read something interesting at kwasizabantulives.com
She is a liar
Please answer me. Why did you suddenly cut out the parts where this half naked woman appears ????? You were never a victim. You are a liar!!!
Elizabeth, I know this is an old thread, but I'll reply anyway. The anger in your tone is exactly what one finds in KSB and Erlo Stegen. When I was 11 years old we visited KSB for several weeks as my parents considered moving there. Thank God we never did.
I have listened to the testimonies given in the last year and I think 2 things :
1. The witnesses are simply to many in number to be dismissed.
2. People like Marietjie and Erika Bornmann are driven as far away as possible from anything resembling Christianity by the unspeakable pain and trauma, hence the revealing clothing and other lifestyle choices. Do not hammer her for this.
@@lieslkruger8603 She is s liar and that is a fact. I know she and others were paid to lie. I only have good memories of the place. All my friends whom I have contact with there are happy. As its been some time, I wonder what happened to all of these liars with adriaan basson
@@elizabethmarx8144, 3 quick points :
1. I would not deny that there is a good side to KSB. It is obvious from the utter abundance of both positive AND negative testimonies over the course of decades that there must be some truth in both.
2. To claim with so much confidence that it is a fact that she is a liar, begs more concrete reasons for your claim. On what basis do you say that she is lying?
3. Some food for thought : quoting from Erika Bornman's book 'Mission of Malice'... "Erlo would often preach from the pulpit that it's okay to lie if you're lying to protect God's work." (page 135)
@@lieslkruger8603thank you from France.
It was thé same for us..
She wanted special treatment
She was just a child 💔
Oh, you, with your revealing 'clothes' are now 'cut out' from the video? Instead a picture is shown where you actually are wearing clothes hahaha...
Hahahaha how do you receive a 'threatening SMS' from an anonymous number? Show it to us. No SMS is anonymous. You are not a very good liar are you?
This was deleted 'dresses like a prostitute'
I directed this question more than 2 months ago. No answer or response. Of course not!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Liars never learn that we pick every piece of the uttered word and analyze it thoroughly 😅😅😅😅
lie lie lie why
...lies...