The Hidden Hand Behind Limuru 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Join Jadiel Kabiro as he sits down with Professor Peter Kagwanja, a seasoned policy adviser and strategist, to delve into the intricate dynamics of Mt. Kenya politics and the eagerly anticipated Limuri 3 meeting. Together, they explore the historical underpinnings, the profound significance, and the potential far-reaching impacts of this pivotal gathering.
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Then Limuru 3 is peaking up pace. The last time I checked Peter Kagwanja had insisted he won't attend but now changed heart.
Me too, his history is objective if he is not partisan or tribal.
A confused fellow now the mountain are suffering now made u turn, I don't trust someone like him
Aguruki...they are being sent by mashamba thief with Kuria.
This guy is very an grateful his wife was acting for both side she was with uhuru during the day but with ruto at night.
kura ya mtu si ni siri he said his mother refused to go with him on election day so he new that vote was gone wamama wa duped by the church and some were worried RAO ata maliza christianity there in lies the problem
Kawanja is being used by Ruto to discourage the mountain from making the move they are about to make
Ngai! @22:30 Did I hear this opportunist say that Ruto became a Mt. Kenya kingpin by winning the election? Kweli huyu ni gakunia kabisa.
For heavenly seek, Ruto is NOT Mt Kenya kingpin. Ruto has mission to destroy Mt Kenya unity and their economic base.
This so called proff is a lununatic ama ni Mzee ena ngomz ciake
True and he has won perfectly well look people's like ichungwa
What I still can't understand is that didn't they see this coming.
"My dear countrymen , many seem to underestimate Mr. Ruto. This man seems to have a long-term plan. Have you considered that Limuru 3 might be the vehicle he uses to extend his presidency? Here are my thoughts:
1. There appears to be a project to replace Kikuyu economic power with the Somali economic nation.
2. Why would Mr. Ruto entertain the 'one man, one vote' concept? If a referendum should be called, then he might try to abolish the presidential 5-year term limit or sneak in a term extension. This could be his hidden agenda.
We, the citizens, should seize this opportunity to demand accountability and introduce clauses in the constitution that empower us to recall officials, including the president, if needed. No more scandals like the fertilizer issues. The power is with us, the citizens. We must ensure the clauses for recalling officials are clear and robust."
kikuyus thought they were very cleaver, ruto proved to them that they knew nothing,ruto never won, he is not the king pin of mt kenya, ruto agenda is to ruin mt kenya economically, nyoros, ichungwas, and kurias are mere bootlickers, kikuyus by 2027 will have been reduced to mere beggars
Can Prof Kagwanja be trusted really? He appears like a double agent.
This person is indirectly looting the taxpayers money via his two-faced wife monica juma. Under the guise of advising ruto, she amongst those looting us dry. It's a shame that they can bring him on this show
god, his annoying
he is a smart guy with helpful ideas he made the important point we as a people shall support the rise to power of another leader there is a happily ever after
"Listening from "2nd.Parklands avenue, Nairobi" ready for "Kesho Limuru3 Manenos"!!!.
Wabannah9009 to the world
@9009 report @ parklands police station
The wife is a president Ruto advisor this guy cannot bite the hand that feeds him.He is seriously looking for a job those near ruto please help him
Herman Manyora, why bring this person on your show? Very disappointing indeed. He MUST NEVER be on this forum again please. Consider it a gross error ...
This man is among those who misled the mountain for their stomachs.
Who did Uhuru dismantle?
Those after stomachs?
Uhuru was buoyed by Hague and his role in 2007 violence on behalf of Gikuyu
Very strong and valid point @stormyNdonga
Today we are harvesting the choices have consequences.
Leave Uhuru alone you refused to listen to him get away with your confusion
What an opportunist
Professor, we understand you are a beneficiary of uda govt but that does not make ruto mount Kenya kingpin.
Closing remark , Opportunist
I honestly love listening this Gentleman Prof Kagwanja he is thorough in detailing the solutions tht affect Kenya on leadership and entire governance as panafricanist.I wish Ruto would see through his IQ and appoint him as an advisor .
..regardless his past political stand..
After Limuru one and the resignation of Oginga Odinga Joseph Murumbi was chosen as VP after six months he resigned and Moi was chosen to take over as VP
Our professor kagwanja has almost zero followers in the region/ listeners! His opinions matters not! Professor was popular during kibaki times ! His family is in Kenya kwanza government and he fears that if deputy fall apart with the president,it will affect his one member of the family in state house by being replaced! That's why he is not calling it the way it's!
I got u professor so Limuru 3. Will clear thevair on national issues and the mount Kenya interests
Do you regret picking ruto randomly so that you could discipline uhuru? .it proves your choice was wrong. People are suffering because of your anger for uhuru. Anger does not rule
I have a problem with Mr. Monica Juma.
All along, he's been a double!
He’s so FOS this Mzae. .
Without a doubt, him and his wife cannot be trusted
Monica juma is Mrs Kangwanja
I don't trust this guy,who doesn't know Railaphobia is what sold in the mountain. What could Uhuru do.
Waste of of time listening yo this do called whatever ena ngomz ndaraida undu 🇬🇧
was it really ? anyway they did not monitor our votes every vote counts they should have watched the votes like a hawk raila could have won how come they did not have a single agent, akina orengo , and all his close allies subbortaged him where was milly odhiambo and the way she used to fight over raila almost going to jail , 2 milllion votes from the mountain without an agent is not a joke
Uhuru failed as a leader. .. how do you lose to your junior as a leader....it was a shame .....in leadership you don't blame the juniors...
@@stephenmuchachi7040 Uhuru was not the failure RAO handlers secretly wanted him to fail they never had a single agent in mt kenya region, thats not Uhuru failure its RAO he should know better
The Man is husband to CS Monica juma
Yes indeed. Juma the silent, two-faced Traitor
We ❤ Our kingpin H.E Uhuru Kenyatta.
I like limuru 3.
Madness,coming from this guy
Betrayer inchief together with his wife.. Never to be trusted.
He finished his two terms, you are bitter because you voted Ruto to punish Uhuru but it looked like you are suffering 😂😂😂😂
@@kelvingachinahapo sasa 👌👌👌
Huyu naye haeleweki-true definition of a fence sitter. He also brushes off tribalism but his talk is too tribal.
Bado analaumu Uhuru ata leo 😂😂😂amechanganyikiwa huyu
Prof., two things: One, make sure we have the book now before political tides change. Two, even Ruto is a product of a Limuru meeting, let the people meet and speak. You seem a double agent currently. We appreciate the history class save for the partisanship and tribal lacings in them. Ruto and his leadership has aggrieved us, the people.
prof. is a good teacher. by saying;ruto didn't win okuyu votes rather Uhuru lost, he is implying okuyu vote is intact and can easily shift to another person as a block
Ichungwa, Ndindi, Gachagwa, Martha, Uhuru...how can these people come together. We are divided as ever. Cry for my people. Ita ritari ndundu rihuragwo na njuguma imwe
He sound triblist.
Peter kagwanja must now know Mt Kenya conscious is no longer with Ruto.
And more so when you want us believe Ruto is our kingpin.
Imagine he still wants Ruto To speak for mountain as a king pin
Junet ako mole ya ruto in odm. And there is 1 extra mole ruto in azimio. Ako jubilee party. Ako microphones transmit information ruto daily. Raila lazima removes the 2 moles mix this mchezo. Otherwise hawezi win this game. Every meeting za azimio ruto hear everything.
How's Ruto a Mt. Kenya Kingpin,he might be the president but not that...I mean if you're on his payroll you'll obviously talk anything to please your "Lord" shenzi sana
Prof.Kangwanja has no known political stand
Kagwanja we know you.. we are ready to press on to the last moment. We have gone through hell in this regime...
Pls those who r having Relatives employed by hasola gava can criticize the meeting
Mt Kenyans are steps higher than all others tribes citing the fact that they have an engine to discuss deeper politics that's shapes the destiny of the country.
What kind of reasoning is this?We cannot bastardize politics in the name of discussing deeper politics.
Appoint of correction to Prof. Kagwanja, Joseph Murumbi was named VP upon Jaramogi's resignation
Why bring this Man who is not principled and firm politically. Limuru 3 is a Must and the meeting is scaring uda politicians from the Mountain. There's no fools in the Mountain anymore.
Where is peter munya
Yes Uhuru lost did tegeges won
This is highest madness disowning your own and crowning a stranger now you can reap your sorrows quietly tuta maliza hii yellow fever 🥵 pamoja.😅😅
Mt kenya should listen,this man, and departure, from this tribalism meetings, reference to mr mtahi ngunyi
Double speaking professional
Hehehe this man is very happy when an outsider is his king pin in his own county really 😄
What a punchline...... Ruto did not win, Uhuru lost! It's so ironical that in Mt Kenya they do not vote FOR someone but they cast their votes AGAINST.
I agree and is affecting a lot about what is going on now.
It's because they are bitter they voted Ruto to punish Uhuru but they are suffering 😂😂😂
I totally agree with Kagwanja. Limuru III must be a preparation for an even bigger Limuru IV in 2026😂
We Kikuyu churches and mogigeke mlichweswa inywe ne ngundu cia nyumba nenengondu cia ngai
Kagwanjaaaaa
Clean the church for prayer: why can't you also believe it that it can be organized without you input?
Limuru 3 conference marks the demise and disintegration of dynasties. Before 2027, there will be at least three political parties in Raila's Luo Nyanza. Never again shall there be strong political parties like ODM, UDA etc. Smart divide and rule strategy.
WITH THIS KIND OF LEADERS IN POWER, KENYANS WE ARE FINISHED!! THIS MAN IS FULL OF PRIDE AND A DISGRACE TO HIS COMMUNITY, TRUTH BE TOLD!!
i thought prof uou said you will be in limuru representing DP
It was Murumbi, NOT Moi, Prof.
Jadiel you are so good. Jaluo asilu with good English
Limuru 2 of 1966 was meant to clip the wings of Jaramogi by creating 8 Vice president positions and confine Jaramogi to Nyanza as VP. As a result Jaramogi resigned in frustration. Thereafter Kenya quickly went back to one VP position and had Joseph Murumbi as VP before Moi came in. PLEASE DONT BEND FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmmm
Who's he?
"Ruto did not win, Uhuru lost" Invite the professor and let him elaborate this
I love you Kagwanja that's the only reason i listened to this but lootall is not the mountain kingpin there's evidence of that he called a meeting after avocado chasing kra with mps those his mps did not show up he has no support how can he be the leader of the mountain and he is imposing discriminatory taxes and displacing our people
Joseph Murumbi came after Oginga Odinga not Moi
Uhuru didn't Ruto did.
Central decided by their action and hate for Luos that Limuru 3 would wait until Ruto 10 year term.
Actually the Mountain people think Kenya is theirs when it is not na tamaa ya uongozi. Uhuru was a statesman in unifying the country but such political demagogues like Kangwanza are the ones making others suffer
Where did that rebellion took them
"did" followed by "took" shows the worst English standing in school and after school life work on it bro.
Shakahola gafament agent 😏
Prof.Ati who is our kingpin😂 tiga wana meni...niokotwe Limuru3...a night of long knives ahead
How is Limuru 3 about national affair yet majority of attendees are kikuyus and the language spoken is local dialect.
Prof.Peter Kagwanja is a very insightful man;he understands his people too.Listen to him,Dear children of Mumbi.
Sometimes I get as confused as many, including Mt. Kenya inhabitants do. Sometimes very objective and sober in his contributions. Other times his company gives us bias assessments on what Kenyans are saying about so and so on poll samplings. Still, in other forums, he is hired by the system as a consultant while still his wife is an extreme royalist to the government in place.....!! Now guys, who is Prof. Peter Kawanja to Mt. Kenya voice and secondly who is he on the national platform if at all?? Very u predictable fellow.
I beg to disagree with Prof. that Ruto is our Kingpin. Who gave him the 'muthegi' ama fimbo ya uongozi?. We were just returning a good gesture but not choosing a Kingpin. We will do that before the next election
It's like I finally understand why Mt Kenya went aganaist uhuru..kikuyu nyinyi ni maringo..eti u must be consulted..haha
Ati Ruto is the mt. Kenya kingpin ama what did I hear?
Prof Kagwanja, don't misrepresent historical facts! Limuru One was in 1966 when Jomo Kenyatta and Tom Mbiya humiliated Oginga Odinga out Kanu. If Mboya knew what was in store for him, he could have thought twice.
Kagwaja is a kikuyu traitor courtesy of his wife.(Monica Juma). They were close to Uhuru only to betray him. Limuru was a huge success coz it has vindicated Uhuru Kenyatta. The traitors were called out and they even tried to pay mungiki to scatter the meeting. It was a good day!
Herman Manyora.
How did this guy end up on this platform.
Listen at how he attacks Uhuru, yet the whole world knows what Uhuru Kenyatta has done for him.
This guy is apana
Shame on you we will come out of Limuru 3 more United than before take that to the bank
He doesn't see a doom day because his stomach is already full
Tumbocrafts
Proffesor manyoro pana letea sisi huyo mjinga . Msaliti. Shetani yeye
No no no sir..we are for limuru 3.please wachana na uhuru.u are sympathiser of this killer regime!😢
No wonder you lost the senator seat,not to say Nyutu is better but it could have been worse,bure
Once you know who the chief betrayer of Uhuru government was then our host is interviewing the wrong person
Professor Kawanja is the President Ruto's spanner boy and a UDA mole. His wife is in the cabinet. What do you expect. He is working for the government, throwing hot and cold to defend the government that employees his wife 😅. Just remember, honorable Sudi was on Inooro radio doing the same bidding for the government recently 😂
Tribalism one shilling one man
Truth is people from mount they don't love Raila and also they don't trust Ruto.Ruto won because of Raila phobia not because they hated or rebelled against uhuru,are they not the same people who said uhuru kumi Ruto kumi? We're not the same people who were paying Ruto debt because he supported Uhuru? Were not the same people who said jomo Kenyatta said they will not vote luo as president? Were not the same people who said luos did not support Uhuru? Were not the same people Ruto reminded them about joho and babu owino and Raila insults to uhuru? . people from mount Kenya should stop hypocrisy with nonsense that they were against uhuru, they voted him Three times and he finished his two terms, comes to open and say you are not satisfied with Ruto but fears you don't have alternative with Raila and you fear because you don't have strong political leaders than before.
But the reality Raila has been defeating you despite Limuru. 2007, 2013, 2017 and 2022
Jade umetuletea Nini hii leta kisia bwana am waiting
Very intelligent prof, people may deny it but he is talking the truth
Who cares that Limuru 3 was sponsored by anybody. What is important is if there were pertinent issues. It does not matter the seeming scare, "we know who sponsored Limiru 3" yes you know, so what?
Ruto didn't win, Uhuru lost.
What are you clarifying
@@heartsforbunbun Am not clarifying anything. I just quoted what was said in the interview. Didn't you hear that?
Were there any structures he's talking about or UHURU created structures?
He's a gun for hire by Ruto & was a sellout of the community hiding behind UHURU with his wife Monica Juma
What is this proff Kagwanja saying? Ati, who is the kingpin in Mt Kenya that we have to live with? Anyway, his wife seats in UDA govt. Empty academic theories. Just wait and see Limuru 3 outcome.
Mt. Kenya politics is the poison of this country.
We are suffering because of people like Kangwanja,
Absolutely
This person is always purporting to be eloquent in telling the Mt Kenya story, but he is always skewing it to his advantage and liking. Never trust a snake with your child
Hasora tawala mpaka maji iwe maziwa.
Kikuyus will never vote for Raila or any Luo ever, no one most tribalistic tribe in kenya
You don't sound like an intellectual, where is prof. Adams Oloo or prof. Makau mutua or prof. Manyora