Pizen, Vomicing, Wallering, & Sitting up with the Dead in Appalachia
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- Join Matt and I as we talk about the wonderful words, phrases, and accents found in the Appalachian Mountains.
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My favorite saying when I am totally unconcerned about a situation: "Not my pig, not my waller."
Love it!
@@BecomingAGreenStalker "...but I recognize the clowns." 😊
@@davidhensley76that too funny! I'll have to remember that one.
Not my hound dog ,not my holler...
I don't have a dog in this hunt. :D
My great-great-great grandfather came to Texas in the early part of the 1800’s from the eastern part of Tennessee. He brought a lot of the words with him that filtered down through the generations in my family’s sayings. His name was Beardy Hall and he was the last white man killed by the Indians in San Saba county Texas. Because of Beardy and his beginnings in the mountains of East Tennessee I am familiar with a lot of the words and phrases y’all use. Even after nearly 200 years we still talk like that.
I'm from a large Irish family and we "waked" my father, who died when I was 24. The wake was held in our family home after the funeral and was an evening filled with tears, laughter, stories and songs. It will be 45 years next month, but I still remember it as the best "party" I ever attended. It was an evening filled with great love and a release of great emotion. I went to bed that night and slept through for the first time in 4 nights. (My dad used to say that something was catawampus, when it was off kilter, or uneven.)
I have heard that word all of time in Tennessee!
Thank you for sharing your memories!!
My mother died 4 years ago ( in Ireland). She was laid out in the family home and friends, family neighbours came to the house to show their respects- there was a lot food and drink and chat and stories. My brother and brothers in law sat up with her all night.
An Irish wake was a similar feast held for someone immigrating in the days when there was little chance of ever seeing them again.
BTW all Irish people use ye for the plural of you ( y’all for you).
I've also heard that all my life, catywompus! I'm sorry for your loss, unfortunately I know that pain all too well. But I have been able to visit with my Dad in my dreams and I cherish that.
Should the dead person 'Wake' from an undiagnosed coma or weak heartbeat hence the watch by family or friends.
Nothing worse than being buried alive.
An excuse to drink to their health and the lack of it.
“Where I come from…. We still sit up wit’da DEAD…” everytime I think about old time wakes and what not I remember that old Jerry Clower tape where this was the first line of his skit about it! Jerry was a good’en!👍
My family “waked” their loved ones when I was growing up, almost always at the funeral home. “We’re going to wake Grandpaw tonight.” My Dad said I told him when I was about four years old that I was scared and didn’t want to be there when they woke up. He always laughed when he told that story and said it was real hard to explain it to me!! Even now we use the term “wake” referring to the “viewing” or visitation at the funeral home.
I cannot tell you how many times my mother told my brother and me at various times to stop wallering on the couch or the chair.
My great niece was born with a veil/caul completely over her face. She has seen things. She talks about things that she would otherwise have no knowledge of. She just turned 7. At my dad’s funeral in June, she broke out to singing You are my sunshine on the way to the graveside. She said papaw was singing it and she wanted to sing with him.
Please. Encourage this beautiful great niece of yours and don't let others tell her she's crazy or wrong. We are hearing of many, many in her generation who are 'coming in' with gifts like this. How. Wonderful. They will teach US so much. 😊
@@okiejammer2736I agree wholeheartedly. I have a 3 year old Granddaughter who told her Mom and Dad a few months ago, that she was Mamaw Cindy's Dad (which is me and my Dad). My Dad passed in 2007, and she wasn't born until 2020 so she never knew him or even saw his picture before. I can't wait to see what this special soul has in store for our world. Bless her heart
Rare gifted children indeed! The stats are that in vaginal births 1 in 80,000 are veiled or en caul births.
I had a Sunday school lesson once that covered the entire birth of a baby. The veil was the part of the cover for the Holy of Holies where God resided in the temple. That’s why the Bible refers to the body as a temple. We are bought with a price and we are not our own. The pregnancy is a physical rendition of what the layout of Gods temple looks like and how we should approach the life He gives to everyone.
These children are called The Indigo Children and many have been and will be born. They have special gifts.
My mother grew up in Meadow Fork and Hot Springs, NC in the Smokey Mountains. She spoke of "sitting up with the dead", telling of family members being "laid out" in the living room of the house, often with nickels taped to their eyelids to keep them closed!
That's where Game of Thrones got that idea( to put coins on the eyes) 😂
yes the nickels on the eyes also was to pay their fare across the river Jordan
We still sit up with the dead here in Ireland. We did it for my dad. Interesting to see how these traditions carried over to Appalachia.
And the caul folklore is still known here in Ireland as well.
So many people literally left Ireland and settled right in Appalachia. My family did and those of us who listened to our Grandparents were taught the traditions❤
Family sat up with my grandparents body after they passed away. The funeral home brought the body back to the family home after the funeral home had prepared the body. It was left in the house until it was taken to the church for the funeral and burial in the church cemetery. I was scared to go through the living room where my grandma was “laid out” until the funeral. I pitched such a fit my parents took me to my uncles house to stay until the funeral.
All of these Appalachian mountains were originally settled by the Irish, Scottish, and German. I've often wondered if many of these words in her dictionary and ones I've heard my entire life, might be a combination of Gaelic, English, and, or German. Then you mix in our accents, and the native Cherokee and you can come up with some very colorful language.
Yes!
I am always amazed at how similar language is in the Ozarks and Appalachia.
My daughter was born with a vail and she’s definitely clairvoyant… she has dreams that foretell events.
There are people with many gifts that seem uncommon but there are more of them than people realize.
Veil meaning is medically know as En Caul, it’s a term used to describe the birth where the baby is still encased in the amniotic sac.
"Waller in your own self pity" is one I remember hearing. Love it when I have to explain something I've said.
So interesting. Where I'm from, we use a phrase that seems unusual to others. We will say, "Let it be" or "Leave it be," or "Let it go" or "Leave it go." We mean this as a command to someone not to bother with, to stay away from, some object, thing, or animal. Example: "Leave it go, that's a poisonous snake."
1 minute before turning this channel on I had a some homemade mullein tea that I had made and stored from the springtime, after finishing that up, I sat down and there your channel was, ready to watch. And girl! Didn't you go and start talk'n 'bout mullein tea. Hahaha... That's too uncanny!
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I love learning the old words that you don't hear anymore. I love it when you tell the stories of things the twins said when they were young. Thank you Tipper and Matt. Appreciate yall.
Definitely enjoy your channel.
I'll bet your neck of the woods will color up so pretty this Autumn. 😊
As a child growing up in NE GA where I still live today it was common practice to sit up with the dead. The deceased where brought to the house a couple of days before the burial, usually 2 people volunteered to take shifts during the night to sit up with the deceased. The entire community brought food for the family and out of town relatives. After the funeral and burial everyone returned to the deceased home and had a feast no one called it a wake. It is not practiced today.
Well, except for the sitting up, they have a celebration of life.
there's still the funeral supper here in the mountains of East Tennessee
I can remember my mom and dad and grand parents talking just that way.. God bless🇺🇸🌹❤️
Hi Tipper & Matt, my granny delivered my brother in 1956 and said he was born with a veil/caul over his face. We were always told he knew things before they happened and examples were given. I loved hearing you mention this. My grandparents were from the hills of TN and so many things you say and do remind me of them. There were so many superstitions, too. My aunt had power to cure thrush and people would bring their babies to her.
My granddaddy would say “Don’t waller in your sorrow!” I enjoy these language videos. Thank you both.
We sit up with the dead here in Romania, we call it "priveghi" which means "to watch over/guard", the little girl calling vomiting "spilling" reminded me of the way we say it - "a varsa" which also means to spill. Though there aren't any direct cultural connections between Appalachia and Romania, the way you talk about your home's culture, folklore and language reminds me a whole lot of where I grew up in the Carpathians.
Love that-thank you for sharing!!
Oamenii de munte sunt oameni de munte!
Now, in my area, a wake is a celebration of the persons life, held after the funeral. I remember my friend, from just outside Asheville, NC, telling me about seeing her family sitting up with the dead when she was a child in the 1930's. She was an adult and married, when her sister died. She went home for the funeral and they had her laid out in the parlor of their parents house. They took turns sitting up with her, never leaving her without someone there, the funeral was preached there in the house. You couldn't do that now, but so interesting to hear about those old traditions, that were perfectly normal back then. We need to preserve this history, that so many people are not aware of.
So many Appalachian words were said by my family in the Oachita Mt area of Oklahoma, like the plants ‘coming up volunteer’. Interesting.
Sittin' up with the dead in Oklahoma after the body was readied for visits and viewing in the house mostly ended with my grandparents' generation. However, in the 1950s I recall some families still doing that, then having everyone over for a gathering or wake. AND, the deceased was laid out in the drawing room and was hauled out by the pallbearers onto the front porch and down the stairs toward burial. A black-flowered wreath was on the front doors of a death house, plus draping mirrors in black. I recall seeing men with black bands on their left upper arm if they had lost someone. Families living away dreaded getting an envelope in the mail if there was a black edging on the flap. This meant bad news, someone had died. No phones for many country folk, communication was by the mails. Times... do change.
That's so interesting to learn, especially about the envelopes. I heard that Jewish folk cover the mirrors after a loved one passes for a number of days as part of a Shiva.
I’m right at 60 and I can remember very well sitting up with the dead but not in their home. We would sit at the funeral home and come bedtime the ladies would take the kids home and the men would sit with the body and keep the lights low in the funeral home - this went on until the day of the funeral and putting the body away - (the burial)
All the things you speak of I have heard all my life and still say a lot of them myself
My roots are Appalachian and carried over from North Carolina to Tennessee and to Arkansas where my family settled many years ago so I guess those roots run deep and are still alive and well!
I thought I knew a lot of old words and expressions, but I don't think I do. We say wait for Tipper, but I have heard wait on. ... My Mom would tell my little brother not to waller in the mud. .. Mom sat up with my Daddy's dad when he died and kept him washed until they buried him. She was 18, I can't even imagine that. ..I do use the last few words. Have a good evening Matt and Tipper.❤🙏
I grew up loving to watch the Beverly Hillbillies and Granny used to say she was “”fixin some Vittles” and we of course used to say that around the house even though we lived in California. We even call our Mom “Granny” because she reminded us of Granny from the show! Ha! Love y’all! Keep up the great work!
My grandpa lived in Johns Creek Kentucky. When we were little and went to visit he told us not to get up on the hill cause the wampus cats would get us. we lived in Michigan and didn't know if he was joking or not. Later when we were bigger and started to doubt that they were real he said he told us that it meant he would whomp us if we went up the hill. Thanks for the memory of Grandpa.
My mom loved growing mullein in her garden. She told me it was medicinal as a tea or smoked and the leaves could be used as bandages/dressings. I had to chuckle at the smoking part because I couldn’t imagine her smoking anything!
A family from Arkansas, used to say "so proud to see you "when they greeted me
"I want you should" is a phrase I've definitely heard before. All the other phrases and words were completely new to me, but fascinating. Thanks Tipper and Matt.
When you mentioned cat wampus, it brought back a memory of hearing the phrase something being all catty wampus. Unfortunately I have no more close relatives alive in NC or VA including my mother to be able to help me remember what it meant. Maybe it was something my great uncle used to say as he was from Waynesville, NC.
I love hearing and remembering these words! And reading all the great stories in the comments is so nice!
And I never get tired of listening to you Tipper
I really enjoy these 'word' sessions! I can't recall ever hearing or using 'vomicing', however, I've certainly done the deed!! lol
I would typically say "wait for" but have used wait on, some. And I've always used the term wake, as in," Are you going to the wake for so in so?" Born and raised in Michigan. Enjoyed this video. Thank you Tipper and Matt. God bless 😊
Wallerin' in the mud was the best way to boost our immune system! Ha! 😊
My daughter had cantaloupe, corn and tomatoes volunteer, and had a little mini volunteer garden. Scraps had been thrown away and volunteered. Delicious! I remember when relatives "sat up with the dead" at the house.
My goodness! In my family someone was always "wallerin'" in something whether it be wallerin' in your sins, wallerin' in the mud or dirt, or wallerin' in your miseries. Whew.....one gets tired just thinking about it. I have memories of our dead in the casket and having the "wake" in the living room. This part of my family were all Scots/Irish and brought many sayings over with them. If I had my druthers {preference.choice}, plumb crazy {completely} I could go on and on. Thank y'all for keeping our Southern heritage alive.......🌿🌺🌿🌺🌿
Love hearing these! Matt needs to add “vittled” to his vocab… “I’ve not vittled in hrs. So I’ve come unfed”😊 I was txting my brother a bit ago and I said I’d do an internet search to help him find an item and he said “ good luck, it’s a hens tooth” …we’re from New England and in 60 yrs. I’ve never heard him or anyone use that term but I have a gut feeling it’s in that dictionary of yours!!😅(5 days till 🎉🎂🥳)
Love that 😀
The old saying “Rare as Hen teeth”😄
We still have "Wakes" we call it sitten up here with the dead here in North eastern Alabama.we sit up with my children great grandmother back in 2015 . I have heard or have said these Appalachia sayings vittles, volunteer, vomic,weight on,wallard, whumpuscat,wantyas,want in want out,want done,what you want done,wanten to,
bloodybones is a legend and story that goes all through here in Appalachia of northeastern Alabama. Have a great night.
Hi Tipper. We appreciate your channel! My wife and I watch you almost every day. We live in Pickens county in upstate SC but our roots are in Appalachia. Our parents and grandparents were in textiles. Our ancestors moved to the upstate to have work. The talk, food and culture are very familiar to us.
I heard you mention wompus cat from the dictionary. We often would say cattywompus to refer to something that wasn’t lined up right or that was making a crooked line. Just one of my many memories.
Thanks again for sharing your passion and bringing attention to the wonderful culture that we treasure as part of who we are. So many times others have accused the people of Appalachia of being ignorant, but I believe your efforts help to educate the public by celebrating the culture help to turn the negative around. I’m also glad you and your family unashamedly share your faith in Christ.
We wish you and your family all the best.
- Danny and Chris Smith
Thank you Danny and Chris!! We appreciate you 😀
We also said "cattywompus" for crooked things.
Ive heard of vittles. My hrandma use to use a lot of these old words but she wasnr from the region. Eas from PA and NY State.
• My idea of vigorous = passionately determined
• I've used "wait on" and "wait for", interchangeably all my life.
I came across the sitting up in Georgia about 40 years ago. It was something I had never seen heard or been around.
I have all of your V and W words except Vail!!!! That is the first time!!! Thank you for sharing it with us!!! God Bless Us All!!!
I’m soon to be 60 and when I was a little girl, I attended a “sittin up” with my family. That’s been the only one. Very familiar with wake, wallering and want. I’m in the middle of NC and I’m terrible at grammar as well. Whether y’all speak proper grammar or not, I love watching your sweet family!!! God bless y’all! 😀❤️
We say “born in the caul” instead of “under the veil”.
My grandparents who were immigrants from Europe used the “I want you should” construction all the time! I always thought it sounded funny. 😊 My grandma would say things like “I want you should be a good student” or “Do you want I should make your favorite soup”?
My grandparents on my momma's side were from old Bohemia....Czechoslovakia/Czech Republic today. My momma had so many stories to tell me of old ways from Europe. I always remember how jovial and happy laughter they had. 🌿🌺🌿🌺🌿
I have heard several of them when I was small in the late 1940s and 50swhere I live in Central AL in the foothills of the Appalachians I still use a lot of them but don't hear any from the younger generation use them enjoyed the video
My first experience of a wake was after I moved to N.C. to marry my sweetheart from here. I've heard and used some of these sayings also. I've learned so many new ways, folklore.....My husband had a first cousin born with a veil on her face. I'd never heard of that before. I know some folklore sounds unbelievable. But I've experienced some folklore remedies that healed earaches, breathing the fire (heat/burn) out of my child after being scalded with hot water, and many more. I believe some people have been given the gift of prayerfully healing through Christ. It's all about faith! I've enjoyed watching you and Matt discuss Appalachian sayings. My favorite part is about Katie saying I'd be ashamed... Thank you for a great video.
Blessed 🤗🙏💕
Very interesting. Many old memories there. Your & especially Matt's reaction to some of the sayings makes me smile. Thanks 👍. Blessings from East Tennessee.🙏🙋
In east tenn we use the phase catty wampus as something being crooked like that old barn is catty wampus
I think it is so cute to hear you say interestin' leaving off the "g". I'm originally from Ohio and we're now living in South Carolina so I am the one who talks "funny" because I do use very proper english and strong "g"s to end my words. I really do enjoy watching you and Matt and your family, it's comforting to find real down home people still exist. I love my new life in the South and really appreciate the kindness we have found. My husband and I serve the Lord and also appreciate that many people in the South still revere Him.
I returned to listen to this one more time, because it's so sweet and I can totally picture that (Katie and y'all). Just precious, the kind of memory dear to a mother's heart. 15:55 THANK YOU Tipper & Matt. I love these talks and enjoy them so much. 🙌🏼 💞
So glad you enjoyed it!! Thank you! Hope you've had a great day!
Born and raised in New Jersey. When a person dies, we attend a "wake", or "viewing". The wake is an opportunity to "view" the deceased and pay respects to the family.
Folks in Minnesota and Wisconsin use volunteer for self seeded garden plants. I worked a small farm one year and was amazed a whole bunch of tomatillas sprouted up since they are much more southern plant.
We definitely say that too. I'm from East Tennessee and I'm wantin to see more of theses videos. And hoping you're wantin to make more 👍😊
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The way you talk sounds like the way my people talk. Love it. Chattanooga TN
I am from south eastern Tennessee and I have heard vittles, wampuss cat, vigorous, I have known people who sat up with the dead, I use want the same way. My Momma used to say waist coat and waist shirt or even a waist shirt dress but she grew up in North Dakota and Minnesota
Yes waist coat!
Wampus cat was a very popular scary tale when I was little. 😂
Hey Mr. Matt & Miss Tipper! I've heard of the Wampus cat, my Grandaddy read about it in a magazine or something back in the early 90's. He had a black cat with a little bit of white on her show up, and he named her Wampie after that article. He loved stuff related to Appalachia, I wish I could remember where he read it. Wampie was the most spoiled and loved indoor kitty, I would love to have seen them reunited in Heaven because he passed first and she grieved for so long. When she passed everyone thought about how happy he'd be that she was Home finally.
I love Appalachian language.
Thank you for another good trip down memory lane when we all used to vomic when we got sick. The smoke would rise up out of our chimleys, and we'd set by a good far in the winter time and look through our pitcher alblums. It's sad that some of our words were lost by going to school and watching TV. Our language sort of became homogenized like our milk. We used to be able to tell where our cow had grazed if the milk had a twang to it like wild onions. By the same token, it was easier to tell where somebody was from by the way they talked.❤ I was tickled to hear an Oxford-educated English man referring to his "chimley" when he was giving a talk! We inherited much of our peculiar language from way back...and it was correct to begin with😊
So entertaining. Love learning all different cultures.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm 67 yrs now, and when I was very very young my uncle Prince told me I was born with a vell over my face and that I was special, thanks for reminding me. He was the only one in my family that talked to me as if I mattered. I am the 7th child of the 7th son in the family of 9 children.
Vittles yes my granny woulda say come getcha some vittles when we came to her house. I was so excited because I thought she said skittles😊
This was certainly fascinating and I loved it...words and how we use them! I’m quite sure I am familiar with 95 percent of these! Your words and phrases are so similar to those I grew up with and will always use and love! Tipper, the place in E. KY where you got the award is about hundred miles east of my hometown. Our accent and choice of words is about the same! My husband’s school and first job was in Lexington and he had a roommate who was from Asheville, NC. His accent was very southern and he used phrases we didn’t and I’ve never heard you use them, either. One was “carry” which he meant to take or to drive someone places. I got him a date with one of my friends and we were at my house. When it was getting late, he asked her if he could “carry” her home! She looked me as if to say “help”!
I have heard the words "wompass kitty" to describe the behavior of someone. I agree with you about not understanding the grammatical terms. Gives me a headache just thinking about them!😅
Matt is so excited!
Lol. I don’t think so
Tipper and Matt
Im from Utah but grandparents from Kentucky and Texas. I use many of these. And people are always asking me where in the south are you from. Lol 😂
It's just passed down from older generations. ❤
I've heard of being born with a veil and having powers to see in the future or have visions.
Wow, stumbled upon this just 42 seconds after uploading! Fun!! :-D Can't wait to watch!
Watering was always used as if you’re walling around on the ground or walling on the sofa in North Carolina. I’ve heard that all my life.😊
I grew up in Saskatchewan Canada. Live in British Columbia, Canada now. We use the word want like that as well.
Amen and Amen. Thank you for sharing my language. 👍🏻
Tipper we set up with my great granmother in the late 60's and my grandmother and uncle in the middle 70's . Since then i havent heard or seen it Norteast Alabama!
I've heard a few of these. I'm from the Midwest and we always called tomato or any other plant that came up on its own a "volunteer". The viewing at the funeral home is what we call a "wake"
In Southwestern PA we would would say “yince or yunce” instead of y’all or “buggy” for store cart, “worsh” instead of wash, “crick” instead of creek, and “read (readying up) the room” instead of clean the room. We also say “chipped ham” for very thinly sliced ham for sandwiches.
Mrs. and I are from Indiana. We’re born and raised Hoosier country mice. We talk very similar to you. Grammar and sentence structure are secondary to simply understanding each other with our people. We even have our own accent (we are told). Thanks for allowing us to watch.
My parents and grandparents were from southern Indiana & Kentucky. I watch this channel because it reminds me so much of family that’s no longer with us.
I’m from Indiana too and the folks on the east coast tell me I have a southern accent. LOL
My Irish-heritage family always used and observed wakes.
When you mentioned the word "vaunty", I thought of 1 Corinthians 13 :4 in the King James Version ..".love vaunteth not itself." In this verse "vaunteth" means to make yourself important.
(Great visit), as always. And I'd never(Get Tired of them.) God Bless. Jean💗&🙏🙏's for Granny
Fascinating! I grew up in West Virginia and so many phrases sounded normal to me. I had no idea they were Appalachian. Thank you.
Tipper I love this I have heard First and second generation Irish people talk about being born with a veil over the face,
I borrowed some things you say to my Northen relatives and friends my favorite is I am cooking a mess of beans, l will say I am cooking some side meat when I am making.bacon and they'll say what. I learnd of victuals on Beverly Hill Hillbillys thank you so much for reading from the the big book
Blessings
A mess of beans❤.
😀 Love that! Thank you
Perfect way to end a beautiful fallish day in Boston ❤🙏🙏 hang in there Matt. Rest up for that grandson 😂
My Late Father always used the term “ shirt waist “. He was born and lived for a time in Memphis, TN. My husbands people ( west VA: fixing to go. Enjoyed your commentary about regional sayings. ❤️ from Michigan.
I have heard of catty wampus: off centered.
My Grandpa always said "i'm a wampus cat Maw!" to my Grandma. Also she said we can't waller around on the beds( after they were made) I love that y'all say these words bc my Grandparents were the only ones out of all my friends that talked like that. ❤❤❤
My family came from Tennesee on my father's side and we say a lot of the "Wantin'" phrases you say. I learned from my mom that I should say "what would you like for me to do?" Our "may I have that?" She was raised in poverty, but in a teaching college town and they taught her latin. So my dad and all of us were told the correct diction. She rolled her eyes at reunions and didn't say much, as to keep from being rude. She would tell me to stop talking "southern" , a lot! But it's easy to start saying those phrases. It sounds like my grandparents talking. My mother's father was a cowboy and fixed planes in worldwar one. He always told us fun "yarns" My mom would laugh and tell him those were very tall yarns!
Knew most of these words and use them often. Heard many of them growing up in NE GA mountains. Here it’s catty wampus. “That’s all catty wampus.” Means sideways or going off schedule or getting flustered. Love to hear the old language spoken.
I grew up in a mill town in eastern NC. There were housing villages built for the workers by the mills, and the houses a mostly identical and in rows. Every house had a front porch with a large window that opened into the front parlor. The windows were all the same size and wider than the front door because a coffin had to be able to fit through the window for wakes. Families took care of their dead in a vigil the night before burial. This was as recent as the mid 20th century.
My grandpa had a whole tale about the wampus cat and how it dwelt in the tree row buy the fields.waiting for dusk and a unsuspecting boy on a tractor.
I’ve heard a few of them words. I’ve heard about the Moth Man since I’m originally from WV and I saw the movie too. Appalachia language is fun, very interesting and very colorful too. Fun hanging out!
I always learn so much from you, Tipper...thank you so very much ❤
We are from the Mothman town in point pleasant wv. The silver Bridge collapsed in 1967. I was 9 months old I crossed the bridge around noon the day it fell. It fell around 5 pm.
I've heard victuals used. Mom and dad said pizan and parsin for poison. If it was really poison it was rank parsin. As kids we were told to sit still and stop wallering. Most Appalachian 's roots are from Europe, so I'm not surprised to hear the same words from Australia, Europe and all over Appalachia. Really makes one realize it's a small world after all. Glad you two got a chance to set to- rest- and visit us a spell. Stay safe and GOD bless