Hecz is the man OpTic is his 2nd family would do anything to save his family and also anything to support like making that Flycast graffiti. Hecz is the man and the best org owner
Aaron Romney he needs to do a around the bar with nick mboze bigtymer while there buzzed to speak there real minds!!! Then do one with hecz buzzed lol let’s be real like we all are at the bar after a few drinks lol loose lips explain why the sinking of the ship
I agree, however based on the context of the meeting and what we can go on from interactions they have had with Jay, specifically with Hitch that more or less relates around his subject area of expertise, the fact that Jay blindly dismisses his views shows the naivety of Jay as a people manager also.
After watching this I've made the decision that I will follow hecz and the other optic guys with what they do next because I'm not attached to optic I'm attached to the personalities
Started watching this TH-cam last night. Finished listening on iheartradio on the way to work this morning *subscribed/followed*. Loving these podcasts man. Keep it up!
I honestly think if hecz can somehow manage to retain Optic or get it back somehow, he needs to partner with Hitch. This young dude has such pride and vision for this company and can make it SOAR again. So many ideas and so many ways to get to the top. It would be a shame to see that potential go to further waste. IMO
He meant that Hecz is gonna get something back from all this. We all know that he wants at least the content guys and the cod team. Even if Immortals takes optic, Hecz still wants to buy back those things.
Pastafarian I understand where you are coming from, but i want you to go rewatch it for me and really listen to the context of the convo, it starts a few seconds prior when hitch is talking about not doing Vision anymore. Around 51:15 is a good start
Nice to see these guys understand the fans feeling on the whole situation. I was one of the people that quit supporting OG as soon as they dropped the Halo team.
Lol no that would've ended horribly. Just sharing that with us is enough of a beat up. J can't have a future after this, people literally call him OpTic Judas.
Hitch is the guy. Although things are changing, its gotta be a little comfortable that your boys are going to have your back and weather the storm with you.
Banks didn’t say that tfue didn’t put in the work, but faze still put him on that platform and banks did find him early and got him on the team @1:05:00
man it feels bad to have these decisions made for optic but you guys are legends! y'all are the real OPTIC GAMING and will continue to create amazing content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take the time out of your day to support these guys. Check out the sponsor links, buy Old Guard t shirts, take a small time while watching this to help out some really cool guys that helped make Optic what it is today. Mad respect
All this has made me realise how real some of these guys are! Big up hecz! And big up hitch and maniac you two really are my favourite youtubers now days!
The only slight problem is when nick said “throw a couple hundred thousands” idk about that, hitch, nick and Boze are prob the smallest people in Optic so idk it’s very tricky, when in their solo channels they struggle to hit 50k views
At the time of me making this comment, there is 15 dislikes. Probably just 15 fucks sitting in cubicles at Infinite. Loving the Flycast, guys! Please don’t slow down on your guys’ personal content regardless of this situation’s outcome.
I literally learned that screaming is a healthy outlet through gaming lmfao Those times where id get so mad because the opps got 4 bars and my cali team had 3 bars, or when I get a 3 piece clutch for the s&d win on a gb team talking shit... The only thing my body found to do in those times is vocalize what I felt. scream. I love it though.
I know a lot of people don't really know/vibe with Midnite, but back in the day she was one of the top + best members of OG, and she'll always be one of the GOATs for people who have been watching since MW2 (Before Scump, Nade, etc.). She made the best videos, a QnA series, etc. It's fucking unbelievable how dirty they did her in Dallas.
It's not as prevalent now as it was a year ago but to all the people that call Hecz a sellout or accused him of bad stuff happening to Optic (granted Hecz does blame himself for making a bad decision believing it would benefit Optic) do you see how much these two guys vouch for Hecz? Even though he knows and admits that he's so full of himself Nick and Hitch say that he could be so much more, they defend him because they know he's got there back and he would never knowingly do something that would hurt any of them. Hecz put his neck out there for the Optic fam and like he says he ain't about milking the viewership out of the drama what a stand up guy. Arriba Juarez
Judas must of had some deep resentment towards Hector over the years. Hated on Hectors success in turning OpTic, which Judas left bcs he didn't see a future in COD, from nothing into something. When Judas found an opportunity to gain leverage over Hector he did everything he could to make sure to take all of it away from Hector that he felt rightfully belong to him all those years. So for all those years Judas nodded his head agreeing with Hector but deep inside resented and hated Hector. When it became decision time in making choices on the company instead of following Hector, the vision that Hector had for the company, Judas made his own decisions that would only benefit him. In doing so revealed what Judas thought all along about Hector and everyone Hector brought with him. That they were all less than him to be easily brushed aside. #FuckJ
Hitch, you guys need to create a physical timeline with the information and stuff that happened. It would really paint a picture as to what all happened and when. It’s hard to hear the information and keep it all in order
Y’all have to go to LA. Content creation heaven. I love my state of Texas but there’s just not the same “Cali vibes”. If y’all ever drop a video saying y’all are going to LA in a team house or apartments or whatever, that would resurrect Optic along with yalls ideas not some business who doesn’t know shit. Y’all are gonna rise again. Much love
Victor Perez Yeah Moving to LA isn’t going to resurrect anything lmao , there is much more to it than just picking up and moving to a different state because of a “vibe” that the state has lmdao
This episode made me so emotional. I feel like we are about to charge the gates of King's landing and take what is rightfully ours. I hope this amazing culture continues to thrive but if not I wish individual success to everyone that deserves it. #GreenWallForLife #TsT #BtH
i honestly got suspicious something was up when hecz stopped going to the office and j stopped being in the videos but didnt think it was this big reason
Split Scream it said a lot when Omoo videos stopped or they didn’t feature J and like you said not in vlogs etc looking back it was somewhat obvious something was up but hindsight is fantastic
Good flycast. The feeling I’m getting from this is J got power hungry. This is common from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing or they aren’t a natural leader. They use their power to make up for their lack of knowledge.
Lol honestly if Hitch ran the content like he intended, that shit woulda popped off. Instead u we’re required to do shit vids with no incentives... leading to no room to grow
I genuinely have love for hitch and Hecz (all of optic too). I’ve never really been fond of J from OMOO videos or times he appeared in vlogs. But damn, he really did treat people like shit it seems.
If you want to know the reality of what happened. J was resentful because he lost a big payday opportunity when he sold OpTic to Hecz all the way back in the day. You can hear it in his voice in one of the OpTic podcast videos. When he saw an opportunity of moving up he took it. The reason he went down the road which lead to this was because it wasn't enough being in a higher position than Hecz finally but he needed to prove to himself that OpTic was gonna be successful regardless if Hecz was involved. That's why he tried doing things his way and not the hecz way. If he succeeds he proves to himself this decision was right. He proves to himself that even if he didn't sell OpTic to Hecz and hd kept it it would have still been as successful as it got. He let that get to his head which is why he failed and why he doesn't want to sell to hecz which if you think he has no say he definitely does. You don't get to be president of a company without being buddies with a couple people higher up than him. It is not just about them selling to big investors because no matter what it will always be in his record that a company that was ran by him was 20 million in debt. If Infinite sold to hecz he gets proven wrong not like he wasn't already but it's like rubbing salt onto the wound. The only man that had the leadership to get OpTic to where it got to in its prime was hecz. J let his ego drive the company he helped build with his friend to ruin and I'm sure he will eventually regret this for the rest of his life a couple years down the line.
I play rugby and we lost our Ohio state title this year and after the game I started screaming in our locker room then all the emotions came, it does help a lot.
I will admit now that I was wrong when pamaj left. I thought he was being a diva and selfish in his "reason why I left optic" video. Now I see that he saw the writing on the wall before everyone. I apologize pam. You're still a diva though lol
I like how Hecz is painting Flycast on the wall for your background. It's gonna be fire!
hecz supports these guys so much it’s almost making me tear up :’) #greenwallforever
@@azquiru He's the best
Oh shit, I was looking at that for the whole time wondersing why has Hecz put 'FL TOAST' on the wall.... SMH.
doo no lie. I was trying to figure out what it said. Have no idea how I couldn’t tell! Lol
Hecz is the man OpTic is his 2nd family would do anything to save his family and also anything to support like making that Flycast graffiti. Hecz is the man and the best org owner
Hitch has gotta make an Around the bar with the rest of what he has in his notebook.
Aaron Romney he needs to do a around the bar with nick mboze bigtymer while there buzzed to speak there real minds!!! Then do one with hecz buzzed lol let’s be real like we all are at the bar after a few drinks lol loose lips explain why the sinking of the ship
diary*
facts
Rookies don't win videographer of the year, twice.
Didn't the fans vote him the win tho?
It's both community and selected panel, either way its industry recognised.
I agree, however based on the context of the meeting and what we can go on from interactions they have had with Jay, specifically with Hitch that more or less relates around his subject area of expertise, the fact that Jay blindly dismisses his views shows the naivety of Jay as a people manager also.
Hey I hope you have a swell day MiDNiTE
Everyone who supports optic love you, remember that, fuck those business twats
OpTic MiDNiTE love u OG
I hope for the best for your future homie.
I'd love to see Big T have his input in one of these
I used to think hitch just edited videos for optic but now I realise how much more than that he has really done
Hitch was literally the heart of optic for a long time. If he stopped optic would too
Jack Barns-Graham this is why iv comment on hecz videos that Hitch is one of the faces of OPTIC!
Hitch was being the glue for OpTic before he even had OpTic in his name!
My muscle memory kicked in at the end when Maniac said “Hitch” I immediately said “Hit em with the music” 😭 love you guys
After watching this I've made the decision that I will follow hecz and the other optic guys with what they do next because I'm not attached to optic I'm attached to the personalities
I grew up watching all of them. No matter what happens I'll still follow and support them. Glad to see other like-minded people.
It's just sad to see the brand hecz worked so hard to build from nothing and for it to be ruined by some corporate cucks really is sad.
I'm attached to Optic still. But OpTic to me, means the scuf house days and so. Obviously not now
Big facts
count how many times i say "vibes"
Tryna catch a vibe listening to hitch dropping his vibe 😂
Toooo many brother
I'm feeling the vibes
Makes for a fun drinking game
174 times.....just sayin
If they dropped the CoD team and the Gears team as well...Optic would consist of LoL and CS that not many of the Greenwall even follow XD
Started watching this TH-cam last night. Finished listening on iheartradio on the way to work this morning *subscribed/followed*.
Loving these podcasts man. Keep it up!
Man courage and pamaj leaving makes so much more sense now
So true
I honestly think if hecz can somehow manage to retain Optic or get it back somehow, he needs to partner with Hitch. This young dude has such pride and vision for this company and can make it SOAR again. So many ideas and so many ways to get to the top. It would be a shame to see that potential go to further waste. IMO
Can't believe J was such a snake. Actually mind blowing.
51:36 did hitch just say what i think he said 👀
I couldn't make it out, whatd he say
Yep. I heard it too. Don't tell anyone
i think he did...
He meant that Hecz is gonna get something back from all this. We all know that he wants at least the content guys and the cod team. Even if Immortals takes optic, Hecz still wants to buy back those things.
Pastafarian I understand where you are coming from, but i want you to go rewatch it for me and really listen to the context of the convo, it starts a few seconds prior when hitch is talking about not doing Vision anymore. Around 51:15 is a good start
Hitch gotta be one of the realist, much love, much respect for the rest of my life😭❤️
Nice to see these guys understand the fans feeling on the whole situation. I was one of the people that quit supporting OG as soon as they dropped the Halo team.
Hitch should've beat the hell out of J when he called him a rookie #greenwall
Lol no that would've ended horribly. Just sharing that with us is enough of a beat up. J can't have a future after this, people literally call him OpTic Judas.
Nick u got lots on ur mind my guy. The way u explain thing is very smart. That's why ur my favorite optic member
If optic flops we still gotchu
Floptic
Hitch is the guy. Although things are changing, its gotta be a little comfortable that your boys are going to have your back and weather the storm with you.
Banks didn’t say that tfue didn’t put in the work, but faze still put him on that platform and banks did find him early and got him on the team @1:05:00
They can have the logo. They won’t take away the Greenwall.💚
"Let's watch the Halo team tomorrow"
I felt that
Damn I feel bad for Ashley, they did her dirty.
Timestamp?
Tony-Eli Aoude 38:00
man it feels bad to have these decisions made for optic but you guys are legends! y'all are the real OPTIC GAMING and will continue to create amazing content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take the time out of your day to support these guys. Check out the sponsor links, buy Old Guard t shirts, take a small time while watching this to help out some really cool guys that helped make Optic what it is today. Mad respect
Hitch for Co-Ownership of optic, the guys knows more than everyone except for Hecz
I’ve been siting in my bed all day waiting for this
All this has made me realise how real some of these guys are! Big up hecz! And big up hitch and maniac you two really are my favourite youtubers now days!
I dont even know the last time I watched an optic video.
one for my favorite series on TH-cam, ill be rocking w it regardless
5:00 if you dont want to waste your time
preesh
Maniac pls bring this back.
Y’all should try to get Stance socks/apparel as a sponsor. They seem like they’d be a good fit for the whole scene honestly
You 2 should do a flycast drunk AF... would be hilarious
The only slight problem is when nick said “throw a couple hundred thousands” idk about that, hitch, nick and Boze are prob the smallest people in Optic so idk it’s very tricky, when in their solo channels they struggle to hit 50k views
Aye glad you to hear you watch Elliot Hulse brudda. Dude is a bit different now, but he was the man back in the day!
facts! Loved him but he is a bit extra now
Lol it also makes sense why everyone was so okay with it, they seemed happy for the people leaving 😂
Maniac struggling with the honey stick had me crying lol
Lmao I knew Hitch was gonna hold back on the eavesdrop. Sad that we couldnt hear the real story.
At the time of me making this comment, there is 15 dislikes. Probably just 15 fucks sitting in cubicles at Infinite. Loving the Flycast, guys! Please don’t slow down on your guys’ personal content regardless of this situation’s outcome.
I literally learned that screaming is a healthy outlet through gaming lmfao Those times where id get so mad because the opps got 4 bars and my cali team had 3 bars, or when I get a 3 piece clutch for the s&d win on a gb team talking shit... The only thing my body found to do in those times is vocalize what I felt. scream. I love it though.
Love you guys, y'all have my support no matter what happens.
Maniac, your wave never left just gotta stream biatchhhhh
Hecz and Hitch should start a new Org called HICKS
I know a lot of people don't really know/vibe with Midnite, but back in the day she was one of the top + best members of OG, and she'll always be one of the GOATs for people who have been watching since MW2 (Before Scump, Nade, etc.). She made the best videos, a QnA series, etc. It's fucking unbelievable how dirty they did her in Dallas.
It's not as prevalent now as it was a year ago but to all the people that call Hecz a sellout or accused him of bad stuff happening to Optic (granted Hecz does blame himself for making a bad decision believing it would benefit Optic) do you see how much these two guys vouch for Hecz? Even though he knows and admits that he's so full of himself Nick and Hitch say that he could be so much more, they defend him because they know he's got there back and he would never knowingly do something that would hurt any of them. Hecz put his neck out there for the Optic fam and like he says he ain't about milking the viewership out of the drama what a stand up guy. Arriba Juarez
Judas must of had some deep resentment towards Hector over the years. Hated on Hectors success in turning OpTic, which Judas left bcs he didn't see a future in COD, from nothing into something. When Judas found an opportunity to gain leverage over Hector he did everything he could to make sure to take all of it away from Hector that he felt rightfully belong to him all those years. So for all those years Judas nodded his head agreeing with Hector but deep inside resented and hated Hector. When it became decision time in making choices on the company instead of following Hector, the vision that Hector had for the company, Judas made his own decisions that would only benefit him. In doing so revealed what Judas thought all along about Hector and everyone Hector brought with him. That they were all less than him to be easily brushed aside. #FuckJ
Hitch, you guys need to create a physical timeline with the information and stuff that happened. It would really paint a picture as to what all happened and when. It’s hard to hear the information and keep it all in order
Watch the Eavesdrop podcast. They do pretty good at keeping it in order
Being totally honest @2:45 not sure if I want to be watching the visuals more disturbing than the vocal lol still comedy gold though maniac
Keep up the good work regardless of what happens!
Picked up a lawnmower 2.0 and some cbd gummies to support you guys.
You guys can be like the try guys when they left buzzfeed Lol
Is it on Apple podcast?
i don't think Jesus would be very impressed by the way J handled this entire situation.
It's deeper than that.. Calico inside the handbag I'm keeping the cat
Y’all have to go to LA. Content creation heaven. I love my state of Texas but there’s just not the same “Cali vibes”. If y’all ever drop a video saying y’all are going to LA in a team house or apartments or whatever, that would resurrect Optic along with yalls ideas not some business who doesn’t know shit. Y’all are gonna rise again. Much love
Victor Perez Yeah Moving to LA isn’t going to resurrect anything lmao , there is much more to it than just picking up and moving to a different state because of a “vibe” that the state has lmdao
John ok loser.
nxt time put optic bacardi on the flycast 🤘🏻😊
Love watching you guys!
That background is gonna be sick
Hecz gets it... because hecz literally fucking built it, and not just optic like literally everything
I feel like you guys really didn't say anything in that Eavesdrop. But just gave everyone a broad understanding. I was ready for some dirtyy details.
It be really cool to do some relationship 101 on the fly cast
Man I was getting depressed so imma finish this later, mans poor Ashly and Sheila they deserve better... optic deserves better much love
I thought J was a follower of Jesus not Judas
When is the bth merch dropping
This episode made me so emotional. I feel like we are about to charge the gates of King's landing and take what is rightfully ours. I hope this amazing culture continues to thrive but if not I wish individual success to everyone that deserves it. #GreenWallForLife #TsT #BtH
Where can I get myself a pair of those optic slides?
When will we get episode 31? 🤔
Hitch, you guys ever consider having TST hop on another game?
They've played other games
I knew you've been on that Eliot Hulse shit man, no shame! It works.
I thought y’all were trying to turn super saiyan in the intro
i honestly got suspicious something was up when hecz stopped going to the office and j stopped being in the videos but didnt think it was this big reason
Split Scream it said a lot when Omoo videos stopped or they didn’t feature J and like you said not in vlogs etc looking back it was somewhat obvious something was up but hindsight is fantastic
Good flycast. The feeling I’m getting from this is J got power hungry. This is common from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing or they aren’t a natural leader. They use their power to make up for their lack of knowledge.
Lol honestly if Hitch ran the content like he intended, that shit woulda popped off. Instead u we’re required to do shit vids with no incentives... leading to no room to grow
Either way love you guys
is this on spotify?
LFG BABY!!! Was wondering about where the Flycast was at then saw the tweet last night. So pumped for this.
J Cole said it best - the good news is nigga you came a long way, the bad news is nigga you went the wrong way
I genuinely have love for hitch and Hecz (all of optic too). I’ve never really been fond of J from OMOO videos or times he appeared in vlogs. But damn, he really did treat people like shit it seems.
#JayKilledOptic
Thank you guys
LMAO J got a 0%
The into is from the old yo Eliot vids
Can’t wait to listen to this on Spotify🙌🏻
It's a bad mentality, but sometimes it's nice seeing people fail when you told them they'll fuck up.
My main question is? Why did infinite buy an esports organization, with the intention of dismantling what they bought. What did they intend to sell?
Think J and others were just trying to use OpTic as a money mine. Just sell everything they possibly can and then get rid of the org 🤷🏼♂️
What’s the intro song name?
Little Lost Boat by OpTic Maniac
This is the first time I don’t like the color correcting... it’s really yellow...
Nicks wave disappeared because he disappeared 😂🌊
And BTW nick if you read this don't take it wrong way, I don't mind you disappearing to concentrate on yourself.
Did Hitch already go threw his 3 pages of notes ?
Through
If you want to know the reality of what happened. J was resentful because he lost a big payday opportunity when he sold OpTic to Hecz all the way back in the day. You can hear it in his voice in one of the OpTic podcast videos. When he saw an opportunity of moving up he took it. The reason he went down the road which lead to this was because it wasn't enough being in a higher position than Hecz finally but he needed to prove to himself that OpTic was gonna be successful regardless if Hecz was involved. That's why he tried doing things his way and not the hecz way. If he succeeds he proves to himself this decision was right. He proves to himself that even if he didn't sell OpTic to Hecz and hd kept it it would have still been as successful as it got. He let that get to his head which is why he failed and why he doesn't want to sell to hecz which if you think he has no say he definitely does. You don't get to be president of a company without being buddies with a couple people higher up than him. It is not just about them selling to big investors because no matter what it will always be in his record that a company that was ran by him was 20 million in debt. If Infinite sold to hecz he gets proven wrong not like he wasn't already but it's like rubbing salt onto the wound. The only man that had the leadership to get OpTic to where it got to in its prime was hecz. J let his ego drive the company he helped build with his friend to ruin and I'm sure he will eventually regret this for the rest of his life a couple years down the line.
J needs to take OpTic out his Fv(|
I’d love to do a LA house with you guys
I play rugby and we lost our Ohio state title this year and after the game I started screaming in our locker room then all the emotions came, it does help a lot.
wait theres rugby leagues in the US never knew
Philip Healy yes there are most people don’t know, it is the fastest growing sport in the US
HENRY Yeah it’s getting popular over there what you play 7’s or 15’s? I play 15’s
@@LORD_ORiGiNALz I play 15's, I'm an 8 Man
HENRY Oh dam nice man I play 4/5 or 6/7
Never clicked so quickly
MaNiaC next stream when? Miss you mun
I will admit now that I was wrong when pamaj left. I thought he was being a diva and selfish in his "reason why I left optic" video. Now I see that he saw the writing on the wall before everyone. I apologize pam. You're still a diva though lol
Wait y'all weren't trying to go Super Saiyan
its 360p and idc because im a true fan
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