The writers are silly at times and take us for fools. After what happened in the public toilet, after Carter has been terrified that he might get found out and someone was out to get him, they have Carter kissing John Paul in public, in the open and right in front of the school, without even looking around to see if there was anyone looking?! It was a lovely kiss, but how ridiculous and unbelievable that he would do that.
It's too much of an about-face for Carter. He's been closeted and guarded his whole life but then agrees to ending his meetings and kiss in public mere minutes later. Moreover, there's the charade: first the girlfriend language teacher that he was "dating" and Maxine. As much as he is using Maxine, he cares too much about his reputation for scandal. This whole story could be interesting and have a good payoff. However, I predict the relationship will be doomed via typical soap opera clichés. I would like to see a scene where Scott, Ste, and James are at gay night at The Loft discussing their (sexual) experiences with John Paul only to have Carter overhear everything.
Thought exactly the same thing. Recently closeted individuals take years to feel comfortable with public displays of affection, if ever. And here he's been struggling with his identity. I too thought the kiss to be absurd, albeit sweet for the warm and fuzzies.
I have seen my loved ones suffer my daddy had a very bad case of Asma his was in the RAF sadly he died when I was 15 my wounderfull mum very bad endless health problems I her carrier she’s been gone 25 years in clouding myself I’ve I have many endless health problems I am trying to live with it as long as I can makes me very understanding my mother always say you cannot tell a book by it’s cavalver I can except anybody that’s ,life Hospitals been my second home I was adopted so ai never knew my family history I v had had many health problems but thanks to GOD his helps me to survive and that I am so great full for gods guidance ❤Aman ❤
When I was coming out as gay I went through a spiral of things from sleeping around, drugs, doing things with married people. It’s tough! I’m in a better place now but it took me 7 years to accept myself.
I don’t read my messages on hollyhocks because early this year I had very nasty gang saying untrue things about me I even showed the doctors and nurses as the doctor asked me if there was anything worrying me it’s the very first time and I v been on this eye pad for many years
I honestly think for the sake of his own mental health, JP should just leave him alone. Why chase after someone who you can’t be with in public? He needs to start 2024, with a therapist and not depend on this dude for healing and sex. If he wants to pretend then let him. Let him hurt himself. Stop messing with DL men. Stop accepting scraps. Let that shit go. He needs to stop the nonsense. It’s like he doesn’t want to have happiness.
They have feelings for each other. All of JP's relationships are complicated - ironically, this is the best option he's had in years. It's a soap. Nothing is ever simple or straightforward. It will end with Carter coming to terms with himself.
@@itsonlysound”feelings” aren’t enough to make a healthy relationship You need trust and respect, they don’t respect each other and Carter doesn’t trust JP Also chasing someone doesn’t mean they’re going to want to be with you He’s truly wasting his time
@@handsomemahlambi They have trust and respect. The issue is overcoming deeply embedded shame and mental abuse. Carter does want to be with him - he just can't currently, because of said shame. As for healthy - loling at that. There isn't a single 'healthy' relationship on HO. It's a soap. Everything is messy. They're going to end up together so ultimately, it won't have been a waste of time.
Imagine a being powerful enough to create a universe, sitting around worrying about the shaved monkeys it created schtupping each other in all the myriad of ways possible, religion is so kooky.
Many times I been at death’s door started when I was 5 years and I had breast cancer then I had Sepsis I was I TC so if anybody suffering fight for survival if a cat has nine life’s well I have used them all up by now it’s Okay not to be Okay this year been so bad right from the start let’s hope it will be better for me2024 and for everybody
Sinful is to make a mockery of gays god loves everyone loving somebody I’d never a sin making a mockery that’s a sin because somebody’s different too much nastiness in this world
Ebony and Ivory there or good and bad in everyone who learns to live with everyone. And to except each other that’s gos for gays that’s who they are god loves gays as well ❤god made them like that
I agree that we are what god made us to be I was born in 1947 I seen a lot I can except anybody exscept bad people People should except many gays everybody That’s who that are
There so small minded people in this world today there are so much nasty nastiness there not happy unless there stabbing you in your back ❤ai can except anyone unless the bad people I am a very goood mother I would never condemn my sons if they was gay NO full 🛑 like I say god loves everybody
If your gay or not no big deal people should exspet who you are one my sons had a pear of gays they was very nice they was my sons friends it’s not what you are on the outside it’s what’s in the inside that matters if your decent,I hate bad feelings these such nastiness in this world just because people cannot except gays I think it’s just an excuse to beat somebody up,Big shame on these bad people’s
Being a parent should be like a marriage so good parenting should gos weather your gays or lesbians and to except who your children are sod the small minded people I am a mother of 2 lads there in there 40snow I’ve seen life changing sometimes good and many bad but that’s life
I think that there trying to make a point that people should take everyone for who they are it’s not a sin to be gay or lesbians But I think all the soups are the same gay or not they shouldn’t have to hide away from the public sorry to say but some people are so small minded we’re living in the 2020s
Not gunna lie carter looks cute everytimes he has a sad or worried face haha
Rasmus In The Shadows! Great song!
Gareth clocking the messiness at the meeting is amazing 😂😂😂
The writers are silly at times and take us for fools. After what happened in the public toilet, after Carter has been terrified that he might get found out and someone was out to get him, they have Carter kissing John Paul in public, in the open and right in front of the school, without even looking around to see if there was anyone looking?! It was a lovely kiss, but how ridiculous and unbelievable that he would do that.
It's too much of an about-face for Carter. He's been closeted and guarded his whole life but then agrees to ending his meetings and kiss in public mere minutes later. Moreover, there's the charade: first the girlfriend language teacher that he was "dating" and Maxine. As much as he is using Maxine, he cares too much about his reputation for scandal.
This whole story could be interesting and have a good payoff. However, I predict the relationship will be doomed via typical soap opera clichés. I would like to see a scene where Scott, Ste, and James are at gay night at The Loft discussing their (sexual) experiences with John Paul only to have Carter overhear everything.
@@richardlee2642 Thanks for your intelligent reply, Richard. You're spot on! Cheers, Terry
Thought exactly the same thing. Recently closeted individuals take years to feel comfortable with public displays of affection, if ever. And here he's been struggling with his identity. I too thought the kiss to be absurd, albeit sweet for the warm and fuzzies.
@@PeBoVision Thanks for your thoughtful and intelligent reply!
The soap opera walk in on this show is for real😂😂😂
YES! I came to the comments to say the same thing! Could not believe Freya's impeccable timing, lol
@@BobbyBaylor 😆 🤣
Many thanks Annie Gillings Spinks God bless you ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊may you have happy days sweetheart
I have seen my loved ones suffer my daddy had a very bad case of Asma his was in the RAF sadly he died when I was 15 my wounderfull mum very bad endless health problems I her carrier she’s been gone 25 years in clouding myself I’ve I have many endless health problems I am trying to live with it as long as I can makes me very understanding my mother always say you cannot tell a book by it’s cavalver I can except anybody that’s ,life Hospitals been my second home I was adopted so ai never knew my family history I v had had many health problems but thanks to GOD his helps me to survive and that I am so great full for gods guidance ❤Aman ❤
When I was coming out as gay I went through a spiral of things from sleeping around, drugs, doing things with married people. It’s tough! I’m in a better place now but it took me 7 years to accept myself.
poor john paul 😢
John Paul me too happy to
I would say let’s be more understanding to each other for 2024 to except people who they are
Poor John Paul
I feel disgusted when i hear about changing someone's for the worse
I don’t read my messages on hollyhocks because early this year I had very nasty gang saying untrue things about me I even showed the doctors and nurses as the doctor asked me if there was anything worrying me it’s the very first time and I v been on this eye pad for many years
Man I want to find out so bad who the person taking pictures is.
I'm guessing Garth
I think it was Gareth that took the photo but I still believe that Carter will end up having a relationship with John Paul
Dois atores lindo,se eu pudesse,eu levaria os dois pra mim,que homens bonitos,
The Jp & carter kiss really has some deja vu .
I go with that god choose how we are to be
I honestly think for the sake of his own mental health, JP should just leave him alone. Why chase after someone who you can’t be with in public? He needs to start 2024, with a therapist and not depend on this dude for healing and sex. If he wants to pretend then let him. Let him hurt himself. Stop messing with DL men. Stop accepting scraps. Let that shit go. He needs to stop the nonsense. It’s like he doesn’t want to have happiness.
He has a crush on him.
It’s not complicated you silly one
They have feelings for each other. All of JP's relationships are complicated - ironically, this is the best option he's had in years. It's a soap. Nothing is ever simple or straightforward. It will end with Carter coming to terms with himself.
EXACTLY!!!!
@@itsonlysound”feelings” aren’t enough to make a healthy relationship
You need trust and respect, they don’t respect each other and Carter doesn’t trust JP
Also chasing someone doesn’t mean they’re going to want to be with you
He’s truly wasting his time
@@handsomemahlambi They have trust and respect. The issue is overcoming deeply embedded shame and mental abuse. Carter does want to be with him - he just can't currently, because of said shame. As for healthy - loling at that. There isn't a single 'healthy' relationship on HO. It's a soap. Everything is messy. They're going to end up together so ultimately, it won't have been a waste of time.
Imagine a being powerful enough to create a universe, sitting around worrying about the shaved monkeys it created schtupping each other in all the myriad of ways possible, religion is so kooky.
Many times I been at death’s door started when I was 5 years and I had breast cancer then I had Sepsis I was I TC so if anybody suffering fight for survival if a cat has nine life’s well I have used them all up by now it’s Okay not to be Okay this year been so bad right from the start let’s hope it will be better for me2024 and for everybody
Carter has been caught out
Sinful is to make a mockery of gays god loves everyone loving somebody I’d never a sin making a mockery that’s a sin because somebody’s different too much nastiness in this world
Your so right Annie you must have a good soul and wellcome back
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This reminds me to much of his story with craig
Ebony and Ivory there or good and bad in everyone who learns to live with everyone. And to except each other that’s gos for gays that’s who they are god loves gays as well ❤god made them like that
I agree that we are what god made us to be I was born in 1947 I seen a lot I can except anybody exscept bad people People should except many gays everybody That’s who that are
Did they ever find the person in the bathroom stall that heard them do the do cuz Carter is a loud bottom that screamed JP’s name?
There so small minded people in this world today there are so much nasty nastiness there not happy unless there stabbing you in your back ❤ai can except anyone unless the bad people I am a very goood mother I would never condemn my sons if they was gay NO full 🛑 like I say god loves everybody
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If your gay or not no big deal people should exspet who you are one my sons had a pear of gays they was very nice they was my sons friends it’s not what you are on the outside it’s what’s in the inside that matters if your decent,I hate bad feelings these such nastiness in this world just because people cannot except gays I think it’s just an excuse to beat somebody up,Big shame on these bad people’s
Omg this is getting exciting. In a way I want Carter to hook up with someone else to see if he really wants John Paul.
I'm curious how Gareth is going to handle Carter's betrayal. Will he pursue John Paul or try to ruin Carter?
Being a parent should be like a marriage so good parenting should gos weather your gays or lesbians and to except who your children are sod the small minded people I am a mother of 2 lads there in there 40snow I’ve seen life changing sometimes good and many bad but that’s life
I think that there trying to make a point that people should take everyone for who they are it’s not a sin to be gay or lesbians But I think all the soups are the same gay or not they shouldn’t have to hide away from the public sorry to say but some people are so small minded we’re living in the 2020s
Loves their chemestry. Are they both gay in real life. I loves them to be together in real life too, they are so cute in couple.
I was under the impression that JP was straight in real life
He is. The way to tell if a gay character is straight in real life is easy... no tongues. @@swordscot
The actor playing Carter is gay irl.
Poor Carter being pushed too hard by John …
John Paul need keep away from him
I think some people on here need to learn how to spell
John Paul is so bloody smug and sanctimonious though. Just because he is happy with who he is, doesn't mean to say everybody is.
I think John Paul is looking at the bigger picture: the evil of gay conversation therapy with hypocritical Carter at the helm.
Carter deceives her own daughter about John Paul. John Paul reaction towards him disappointed and frustrated Carter should not done that