Modern Nuclear Submarines: What We're Allowed to Tell You
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- In this episode we're telling you a little bit about our visit to SSN 796, USS New Jersey
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The idea of "videogameifying" war is a tale as old as war. Back in the day kids all were playing baseball so we made grenades in the same shape as a baseball to make it easy to train soldiers to throw. It makes sense to simplify training by adopting whatever is popular amongst the youth into your military tech
That's a point, but what's really interesting is that sources document the history of grenades which are sized to thrown by hand dating back to the Byzantine Empire when it was realized the components of Greek fire could be thrown by hand in stone, ceramic, or glass containers, & stone spheres a bit bigger than a softball, maybe grapefruit size?, and filled with explosive have been found in China and turn out to be written about back to the Ming Dynasty; there were at some date some with metal casings too. Some sources say hand grenades were invented in 16th century in Europe then for some reason faded from use by 18th century. Form follows function and ergonomics is ergonomics is ergonomics, there are only so many shapes and sizes of object which can contain an incendiary or explosive charge and be hand-throwable any reasonable distance. So perhaps the truth 😉 is that the American baseball is patterned after the Byzantine grenade.
Yes a grenade looks and feels just like a baseball. ŴOW
They actually tested American football shaped grenades. But it wasn't as common a sport and not everyone can throw a tight spiral.
During WW2 new crew members for Tiger tanks were given a comic book for a manual on how to use the Tiger, so that's pretty close in concept.
@@johnanon6938 it made sense, literacy was not quite 100% back then.
I worked for a major computer company in the mid-1990s and was on the Navy base in San Diego doing contract work. We knocked off early one day and had some time on hour hands, so we asked for a suggestion of what to do. Our Navy host suggested going down to the docks where the nuclear subs were tied up. We decided to give it a try. I'll be darned if we weren't welcomed on board and given a tour by one of the senior officers. We went from stem to stern, although he apologetically said we couldn't tour the engine room because it was classified. That was a rare moment...
i hope he said "Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please." when he was at the periscope 😀
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I forgot which book I read it in, but the earlier nuclear subs were refuelled. When the Nautilus was being designed, the question was to use a bolted reactor cover with o-ring seal or welded. The latter would require cutting and re-welding, so the bolted cover would make refuelling easier. The person pushing the O-ring and bolted cover had everyone convinced to use it. The Rickover walked in, and asked him "If your son were serving on this boat, would you be comfortable with the bolted and o-ring sealed cover?" His face turned red and they went with the welded one.
@@skovner Rickover and his insistence on the sub safe program is the most amazing beneficial thing ever done for the sub program. Compared to Russia and their lack of emphasis on safety.
i don't know if you intentionally made it "the rickover" but if you didn't i think i'd just love it even more xD
The video game controller reminds me of the 1984 movie “The Last Starfighter” where a kid plays a video game so well that he is recruited to fly a spaceship to save a civilization as the arcade game console was a recruiting tool.
Ironically there is folklore that says the video game was real and actually existed in arcades at the time, but only the prototype game, made by Atari, from 1984 was ever made. There are people working on a reproduction of it, but I do not know if the project was ever completed.. There is also a fan made last starfighter game floating around on the internet somewhere, but the last times I found it, i couldn't open and run it because it had a virus embedded in it every time.
@@sibhuskyguy there was something like it. had 2 sides, one was for the pilot and one for the gunner. though the gameplay was nothing like the movie. im not sure if it was related (really dont remember it that well) but i thought it was a cool cabinet.
@@LordOfNihil down in seaside heights back in the early 90's there was a sit in console at an arcade on the boardwalk that wasn't branded as the last starfighter but it was blatantly obvious it was at least partly based on the movie... I wish i remembered the name of the arcade or the game... never saw a 2 seat space game.....
@@sibhuskyguy its possible it came in a one player config.
@@LordOfNihil it's possible but not likely as there would probably be records of the game going into production from Atari if it had.
those light weight easy to deploy ones arent fire boundaries. they wont stop or slow down fire. they are smoke boundaries that allow hose teams etc to pass thru without smoke taking over the entire vessel. on the battleship they would have had them in dc lockers, and they would have been put up with spring loaded clips on the rims of hatches, and water tight doors.
The X-box controller for the photonics mast will never not be funny
Yeah - it shouldn't be... the recent history of submarines using x-box controllers to control mission-critical software/hardware packages isn't great *cough* Titan submersible *cough*
@@Joseph55220 The difference being:
1. the navy uses exclusively wired controllers so any risk of connection failure is significantly reduced and no problems with batteries + I'm sure they keep a couple spares around
2. Even if all of the controllers onboard fail somehow, not being able to turn the photonics mast around won't cause the submarine to sink
@@KyklopCZ-DaTrueOne I was more just trolling the Navy for using the same technology as Titan. I can't say anything for sure because I've never been aboard a nuclear sub and the Navy plays real hard-ball with their sub-fleet - but I know about the procurement requirements for that sort of stuff so, whenever the Navy converted to the new stuff (again, I could be wrong but I don't think the original Virginias put to sea with the current setup) I'm certain that they had to buy and warehouse 130% the number of controllers that they projected they would need to service the entire fleet for the entire length of their projected lives. I'm sure that, in a minimum of TWO locations (probably one near the East-coast and one on the West) the Navy has hundreds and hundreds of xbox360 controllers each with serialized paperwork demonstrating that it has been function-tested and is certified for use. And the way you phrased your reply - did Titan use wireless??? I'm almost certain that it was a wired controller. I think they used it for the same reasons I imagine the Navy adopted them - it output via USB1.0 and was really, really easy to code for... if they were using wireless they were even more criminally negligent than I knew about...
@@KyklopCZ-DaTrueOne Obviously they didn't have the same setup at first - 360 didn't drop until more than 5 years after Virginia came down the slipway. But, again, I'm just poking fun at the Navy. The DoD, I believe, certified xbox controllers for use for flying certain drones as well. I believe they cited cost, reliability, availability, the fact that Microsoft was already a major, vetted DoD supplier, obviously MS is (on paper) US based (even though most of their hardware is manufactured in Asia and most of their programming is done in India), and the extensive research that Microsoft had poured into the ergonomics of the design, and that a significant percentage of military-aged men were already highly-proficient with the device. Anyways - I know the DoD officially cleared the x-box controller for use in military applications.
at least put the thing in a cnc metal case with state of the art hall sensors. ive been converting old military surplus joysticks (the pcbs had parts that looked 50s-60s ish) to heli-sim controllers. doing something like that.
Smartereveryday did great series of videos on this topic, excluding, of course, many of the technical specs of the subs capabilities. You don’t tour these boats for lengthy physics lessons, but it is worth learning the principles ahead of time, for those curious enough.
I love that at some points during that video series, there is a jump cut forward to Dustin saying "Okay, I guess we'll have to cut out those last 5 minutes" because they geeked out too much about the technologies and veered into confidential information.
@@marvinnicorode1209when I was in my navy (not USN) training they took us on a tour of a boat in an attempt to get volunteers for the silent service. There was stuff on that boat which would have been my rating to operate and maintain but they wouldn’t show it to us! lol. I stuck with the surface fleet. 😅
I came here to recommend the same thing. To a neophyte like me, that was a fascinating and entertaining series. The air candle was a mind blower. You burn a candle-like thing to get fresh oxygen - seems so backwards!
@@wtmayhewYES the oxygen candle was wild. Didn’t see that coming!
honestly i wish someone else would have made that series, i want to watch it so badly but i just cant stand the way he narrates a video
USS New Jersey -three for your information, Ryan, she is the 5th ship in the Block 4 and the 22nd ship of the Virginia Class SSN Submarine
I know they’re more strategically viable in just about every way, but…these nuke boats just don’t have nearly the “ooooo! ahhhh!” appeal as a battleship.
Until it silently disappears after turning a country into a parking lot 😅
It's carrying the "ooooh ahhhh" 😂 she might be ugly and bland but she puts on one hell of a show
The “Ooooo ahhhh” of the sub extends further than 25mi. A LOT further. Though the BB did get those.
I’m sure whoever’s fishing when suddenly a missile blows out of the sea will probably “ooooo! And ahhhhh!”
Yea thats because they are so highly classified looking at the outside is almost a violation
Smarter Every Day has a great series of videos going through one of these nuke subs. The navy worked with him to censor it appropriately.
You know you're old when you've never actually used an X-box controller. Or played a video game it was designed for (raises hand).
Soon, new recruits will be too young to have used an XBOX 360 controller.
HAHAHAH The last game console I had was the Atari 2600....
I love their mato
“Victory or death”
That is the motto of the US Army 32nd Armor regiment and goes back to WW2. So is the Navy stealing it?
You absolutely need to collect an authentic periscope controller. :D I find it amusing but at the same time, it makes a lot of sense. One of the cardinal rules of human interface: embrace standards, don't fight them. And no point in re-inventing the wheel. MS already spent a ton of money figuring out the controller.
The integration of gaming controllers into military hardware has been interesting. It's reminiscent of some tanks using steering wheels to make them easier to train on. By using some control system that recruits already know, not only does it make training faster. It means that servicemembers will already have years of experience in getting the proper muscle memory to operate anything utilizing it.
I imagine the only complaint is going to be "Alright, who the hell inverted the controls!?"
And in terms of gamifying war, remember that the WWII hand grenades were modeled to be similar to baseballs, and for similar reasons.
Heck, I just found out the center thing in the controller is an actual button!
Its not just that alone. Game controllers did not just become the way they are for no reason, a lot of ergonomic thought went into designing them. If they didnt exist for games, they would have to be invented for applications such as this to make the use of systems much more efficient.
@@Ganiscol Having a number of joysticks and game controllers from the 80's and 90's, I can attest to that. Modern controllers are VERY comfortable to use compared to what we had.
COTS is "Commercial Off The Shelf Tech"
Informally there are 3 major categories of re-purposed tech: off the shelf (brand-new), out of the box (outdated but still pretty new), and out of the bin (I'll let your imagination work). Calling these adaptations: off the shelf is, umm... generous
You are correct!
COTS was a railroad term also-Clean, Oil, Test, Stencil.
ALL the kids serving on subs these days are familiar with gaming controllers, so it only makes sense to use what they're already familiar with! They're fairly reliable as long as you don't abuse them, but the best part is that they're cheap, and interchangeable. Keep them in a drawer, grab an extra, swap the XBOX controller out for a PlayStation controller if that's more your thing! It wouldn't surprise me if they also have an interface to remap the controls with user defined presets!
XBOX is after my time; is there an adapter for Atari 2600 paddles?⌨🖱🖲🕹👾
@@DistracticusPrime Personally, I wonder why the Atari and Commodores didn't just use a controller with a D-pad (like the NES) instead of those joysticks with membrane caps. It's an awful lot of hand movement for something you could just do with your thumb.
Part of my career was the application of COTS to military use. One of the biggest drawbacks is you are totally at the mercy of the COTS provider. If they want to change the interface, they change it and the next gen isn't compatible with your billion-dollar sub. They do not do significant regression testing to ensure backward compatibility. And as we just saw with CrowdStrike, you don't control the changes they make to their COTS software.
Okay, so you buy 1000 xbox 360 controllers and put them in a warehouse. You're not worried about next generations etc. you have one that works and you buy enough stock for the entire lifetime of the entire production run.
@@ssl3546I think you might be underestimating how much sailors break stuff.
One other consideration is the environmental condition the controller must endure in the worst case. Assume the control spaces are flooded with seawater. Will that COTS controller work after Damage Control empties the compartment? For the answer, try dunking your own controller in salt water and see if it works after immersion! Perhaps the solution is a bunch of spare controllers sealed in watertight lockers or bags, but then you are faced with replacing the controller while some destroyer is dropping nasty stuff designed to kill you. Basically, COTS versus mil-qualified is always a trade-off. Each is appropriate sometimes, and we can only hope that some equipment engineer did the trade-off studies for this "periscope" controller.
@@ssl3546 However COTS doesn't work that way. The first "belief" is that the COTS industry is your logistics tail, so you don't have to have one. Beyond that is it's not just a controller, but an entire eco system of hardware, software, firmware, middleware, (and probably someone's dirty underwear by the time it's done) that all has to play nice together in harsh conditions. Somewhere in some production run the X123A chip gets replaced with the X123B chip. And suddenly that "plug and play" doesn't. It's more art than science getting all these parts to play together. COTS is one of those terms that sells well but is much harder to do in practice.
@@kmbbmj5857the one good thing about that fragility is that it encourages upgrades. Can't source the X123A? Well, if you can no longer use the Xbox 360 controller, and the kids today have never touched one, might as well upgrade to the Xbox 1080 controller. And while you're at it, replace the camera, and the monitor, and the rangefinder.
It's like the F-35, designed to be an empty hull that gets new weapons and new computers every 10 years for decades to come.
3:03 There is more than 1 watertight door Ryan! Submariners love playing this game! I am no exception
Just in case anyone wanted to know how the Nuclear Reactor in a USN Submarine works I am happy to oblige, I was often bored in middle school after I finished my homework.
Step 1. Find some spicy rocks.
Step 2. Put those spicy rocks into a special metal box.
Step 3. Put the metal box with the spicy rocks into a tank of water.
Step 4. Let the spicy rocks heat the tank of water until it makes the water vaporize into steam.
Step 5. Collect the steam from the tank of water and direct it's flow into a multi-stage expansion turbine whose output shafts are connected to electrical generators.
Step 6. Use the generated electricity to protect and serve the United States of America and her interests including things like [REDACTED].
Robert is a Parent's Sibling, It is as simple as that.
Just like any other nuclear reactor, except WAY less efficient due to not being as big. The same fuel that runs those subs and carriers would go much farther in a modern land-based reactor and leave much less waste. But to fit a commercial scale reactor like that you'd need a *literal* floating city.
@@kauske The US Army Corps of Engineers commissioned a floating 10 megawatt pressurized water reactor to be built out of an old Liberty Ship in 1963 for the seemingly impossibly small sum of 17 million Dollars. There was no room for motive power after the conversion, so the ship had to be towed to where it was needed. It was the Sturgis MH-1 and began operation in 1967. Sturgis’ most significant job was to supply supplemental electricity to the Panama Canal Zone when water in Gatun Lake was too low to make enough hydro power in 1968 . Shutting down and decontaminating the Sturgis was a big job and took the Army Corps until some time in 2017 to complete.
@@kauskeI mean the words "Military" and "Efficient" rarely fit well into the same sentence. Given the task at hand the alleged S9G in the Virginia Class seems like it does a pretty good job.
Decommissioning is pretty straightforward too. Put the reactor compartment in a box slightly larger than the compartment itself. Haul it away leaving it parked in the desert where it is visible for that hypocrite Ivan to see on his satellites then bury it in a mountain somewhere.
Given that the alternative is Diesel-Electric, I think Nuclear power is fine for this use case.
I learned that from Drachinifiel first.
the battleship is quite similar! you just light a big fire to make the steam instead!
Ryan,
You're most likely correct that the USS New Jersey (submarine) will never be preserved. I served aboard the USS Alexandria SSN 757 (PLANKOWNER) and I only know of 1 nuclear powered submarine that has ever been preserved. That is the USS Nautilus which is a museum ship up in Groton, CT.
Sadly the Alexandria will be decommissioned in 2026.
I heard that the USS DALLAS SSN 700 was in the process of being made into a museum
@jeffreymcurtis I have a friend who lives across the water from where the Navy deconstructs all of the nuclear powered submarines. I will reach out to him and ask if he's heard anything about the Dallas.
@jeffreymcurtis I just did some searching on the web. The Navy said that due to security concerns there was never a chance that the entire submarine would ever have been brought to Dallas for a museum ship. Secondly it would be a logistical nightmare to even get it to Dallas. Not enough deep water.
@@ericwhiting5470 thanks
@@ericwhiting5470 that's what I was thinking, I think that I first heard of the Dallas becoming a museum ship may have been on the Battleship Texas channel
I was lucky enough to get a quick tour of the Virginia herself. Something that I'll remember forever.
The Xbox controller for the photonics mast is just the modern day equivalent of the baseball grenade in WWII.
Also I laughed at the slightly snarky remark about it not being "one of the cheap knockoff ones". 😂
Are there any artifacts that the Navy has taken off BB New Jersey to place on SSN New Jersey?
Some pieces of deck teak I think maybe?
@@garywayne6083I think I heard something about the officers silverware going to the new ship.
Future video idea here --> Get a chunk of the steel they use for submarine hulls and compare it to the steel/armor on BBNJ. Different alloys & production processes. Different strengths in many ways. Different welding requirements. Basic question is, "What do you want your steel to do?"
The submarine is made of HY 100 steel (high-yield 100 ksi). The biggest difference is the degree of material pedigree required for submarine pressure hulls. Every heat of metal is tested for chemical and physical properties and results are maintained for the life of the ship. As each plate is cut and formed into structure each piece has physical marking to establish two way traceability from the plate to the installed parts in the ship. Then there are the welding records.....
@@kevincook1018HY-80*
XBox controller? * LOL! * Like that scene in MiB II when they pulled out a Playstation controller to control the car. :D
Thanks!
I believe BB-62 never carried torpedoes. In the SSN-796 part of the museum it might be nice to show a dummy or mockup of the fancy torpedoes that the submarines carry!
With the x box controller you’re saying that sailors are training when they get off of work?
You probably need to get one of those X box style controllers from the NAVY for your collection
Do they have them with a custom silkscreen? They already have them for limited edition game promos, why shouldn't the Navy have one?
Emcon concerns? Its a giant Farrady Cage, the only underwat concern would be surfaced on the bridge, which is easy to control emcon, or line handlers in/out of port where you're not exactly trying to hide
Those joysticks are about the most tested component on the ship. Made to last 1000s of hours with teenagers regularly throwing them in anger when they die in elder ring. And millions have tested them.
There will probably be trinkets given to the crew for each active deployment, those would look great affixed to a tineline type exhibit I think.
Fascinating, thank you!
I got to tour U.S.S. Cheyenne SSN-773 at Pearl Harbor ~1998 or 1999.
Why does that towel at 1:35 have a carrier designation on it?
Lol... thats a good catch
Should say SSN 😮 796
That is interesting. For what it is worth, the date is correct for the christening of SSN-796 New Jersey. Maybe it is some sort of inside thing? I remember something on the channel here a while back about the NJ having special permissions for some badge being colored red instead of the normal gold.
Navy based joke about drone control capabilities probably
@@archannas5805 Yeah, I saw it and then had to back up to confirm it. Maybe the event towels were embroidered wrong across the board and too late to fix it?
Sounds like a government operation.
yup nothing like doing the tango with a real periscope.
Served on 637 class subs in the late 70’s…Interesting new stuff but the designers today have never served on one and their thinking reflects that…Visited a Virginia class and there were no manual backups for many of the main systems…it was electrical only…There were so many engineering designs lessons learned from WW-2 that are gone…There were double the number of IC man aboard then Machinist Mates…They had a dedicated IC man who’s job it was to maintain the ships entertainment system…I had an engineer tell me that there were lessons learned in blood that have gone away…Just my observations…
@@stevea9604 Sorry with the navy’s emphasis and history of the lessons learned that brought the birth of the sub safe program. I found it hard to believe what you are saying.
@@justwordme Go visit a Virginia class and ask…It surprised me
I can't think of a critical system that doesn't have a mechanical backup. I have no idea what youre talking about.
@@ryancollyer2046 The main ballast tank blow is only electrically operated…There is no manual operations… There is lots more like that
@stevea9604 Main Ballast tank blow is not electrical. It's controlled by the 2 "chicken switch" air valves above the pilot and copilot. The normal main ballast tank system is electrical from the touch screen panels, and have local controls as well.
You need to aquire an accurate replica of a MK-48 ADDCAP torpedo. One idea for a future video would be to give a rundown of the weapons that the submarine can carry.
Yeah - just like the x-box controllers, the navy realized it was cheaper and easier to just repurpose the internals of a v3 motorola razr flip-phone from 2010 than it would be to develop something from scratch - so: more technology you haven't used since college.
Just great, seems like Stockton Russ was there ahead of Ryan. So Ryan, when do you implode?
Very cool. Save room on your pier, you might be able to have the sail off that boat someday...
A couple things... You showed a picture of an 'Original' Xbox, not an Xbox 360 (which im sure they were using).... Im not all that surprised or impressed that they went that route... Ive seen it done quite a few times over the past 10-15 years, and its kind of obvious if ypu think about it...
What i really liked was that they were using the 'cell phones' like that...
That isn't even the original XBOX controller, nevermind a 360 controller. The ORIGINAL was a lot larger, closer in size to the Dreamcast controller! They were never really a big hit. Too awkward.
@@BlackEpyon if memory serves, the pictured one was after the larger design... After they got laughed out of the room with the first design...
On a different note, I once worked with someone who had been a submariner. This was when Hunt for Red October came out He said all his shimpates (boatmates?) found the movie hilarious because it was so different from reality.
That company was a large computer company, and somewhere there is a video of a flat panel display that would have cost $25000 had it gone into production (probably late 1980's). The most likely customer was going to put them in submarines, but the display never went into production. Yellow monochrome electroluminescent display.
When they come on the museum New Jersey you should tell them they can't view the engine room as it's top secret and see what they say. 😂😂!...
This video will have an unusually high number of Chinese and Russian viewers…
They're all bot accounts.
Lmao
I've noticed a greater number of cuts in this video. No doubt it's easy to trail off into things that simply can't be said.
Ok question for New NJ, how are the torpedoes fired. As far as artifacts, challenge coin, baseball cap, name tab from uniforms, copy of a Menu from first cruise, post card, a photo of her in the water next to the BB NJ, meal tray, a piece of the SSN NJ that is not needed or has been removed small piece of metal. Stationary, pen and pencil set, a set of salt and pepper shakers. I had the SSN Miami challenge coin and ball cap, donated it to the Cruiser Museum on Ryan’s side girlfriend USS Salem CA139
My friend's Dad was the skipper of a SSN and well after retirement he was very tight lipped about it. I'd throw the obvious questions to him and the answers were "deep enough" and "fast enough", lol.
Victory or Death is a great motto.
I grew up near the Naval Reactor Research Site in Idaho. Many of my friends Parents were Engineers working on those projects.
Currentn Submarine and Carrier Reactor Tech will last easily 30 years and potentially 40 or so without need or refueling... giving our Navy much better deployment rates and less time needed in Re-fit.
Things have come a long way; and we now have much smaller & more efficient Reactors that use less fuel, last longer, produce mich more power, and are safer than ever before.
This is NOT Grandpa's Nuclear Navy... We are now Light-years beyond those days.
To me the obvious story to be told of the new New Jersey is the story of the people working on the ship and how they eat, sleep, work, and interact with the space. That is what makes it human.
Oh, The ascom D81. We go trough loads of them at work.
To be honest, I cant really think of what might be the best artifacts to gather at the commissioning but I AM thinking it would be something to gift 2 or 3 artifacts of note from both of her predecessors, to remind the crew of the legacy they are now heirs too.
im totally a joystick guy, i cant use a game pad. but modern gaming is either mouse+kb or gamepad and i think we lost something. but it does make sense to use something the young recruits recognize and know than to teach them the finer points of control theory.
I think that each ship should fly a flag from the other ship. The new New Jersey could fly a flag on it's first deployment that also flew on BB New Jersey. That would be a cool artifact.
I always look forward to the random jump-cuts like at 2:46.
Really missing the Logitech controller for COTS
If it's USB, I imagine you can use whatever controller you want as long as you can remap the controls!
I wish I could drive for 30 years without a fillup. Lol
Good news, bad news - one fillup (good news), heap big expensive to fillup/refuel (bad news). End of vehicle life, another heap big price tag to dispose of nuclear power tank (more bad news).
Boy, numbers on the Internet are all over the place from 10 to 30 years for the reactor core refueling interval. US EPA says 20 years, which is conveniently in the middle. 😊
@@Tmlong333my parents had a truck with a 1000 mile fuel tank. Never had to fill it up, until you did😢. Had the weird realization that, like, there's a finite number of times the truck will be refuelled, and it's a low enough number to be comprehendible by a human brain.
Emissions control for hand held devices on a sub is quite easy. Not only does the sub have to be sealed up anyway, the penetration of EM radiation through water is quite poor to non-existent at the frequencies they would be using. You do have to make sure you aren't leaking out the mast when it is poking out of the water, but otherwise shouldn't be an issue.
So Wise , Thank You for keeping history alive. . Good idea use what WORKS
remember the OceanGate underwater submersible accident? they were using an Xbox controller too :)
A copy of their battle flag would be nice to see beside your WETSU flag😍
I love you Ryan, you are my hero. Don't ever comb your hair.
As someone who served on a 688I and now works on Virginia-class boats in a civilian capacity, I can confirm that Virginia-class boats are more cramped inside.
Ryan I actually use a wired XBox controller for playing RPGs. But I'm an old. And I used to work as a tech at L3's predecessor, Loral Corp., doing product testing.
Reckon those muzzle doors are probably on the list of watertight doors, too 😜
CVN-796? I think someone made a pretty significant goof in that embroidery on the towel😂
Does the Battleship NJ have a Pre -steam ship (i.e a Ship of the Line, age of Sail) For-father?
Fantastic. As a retired 688 class sailor does the photonics display still have the old periscope telemarks (cross hairs). Do sound powered phones still exist. AND most importantly; what kind of ice cream machine do they have? Great job!
Probably have one or two sound powered phones, it's just good emergency redundancy. Crosshairs are probably an optional setting. Ice cream machine? You could probably FOIA the contract, but 20 bucks says its gonna be redacted because classified.
@@phillyphakename1255 ice cream machine is more classified then the engine room.
@@phillyphakename1255There's the same amount of sound powered phones as old boats, but they're backup only. There are normal landline-esq phones w/ 3 digit phone numbers.
How bout the collection of life saving equipment like inflatable abandon ship vests, life rings, float coats, kapok vests and if possible a life float (chum basket) or even life raft. Nice video! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
Hey Ryan, how much asbestos was on an Iowa-class ship? Has New Jersey been abated?
I think the C in COTS is usually considered to mean "Commercial" rather than "Civilian" but I suppose it pretty much means the same thing.
A photo of both New Jerseys together... BB-62 in the background and SSN-796 in the foreground...
@@neonhomer Have you had an opportunity to see the Badge for SSN-796? It's beautiful.
Will the submarine New Jersey carry anything on board from the battleship New Jersey?
Lots of our teak and some souvenirs
Gotta get something from the first weapon fired from the sub
The phones are Ascom DECT cordless phones, they work like an office PBX.
When will a New Jersey go into space?
Right after the B-52Z takes flight.
@@aland7236you really think it'll take 200 years?
How about acquiring a mk48 or a Tomahawk? All for display purposes of course.
Perhaps at the end-of-career you can get the SSN NJ's sail, kinda like how Parche was memorialized.
we've got a tomahawk
the acronym COTS is typically commercial off the shelf.
Baltimore raised here the Torsk was my first submarine visit. A number of times.
We remember the Seawolf in that time when they were first built. The USSR was afraid of these. It was a doctrine at Sea Power at any cost and stuff as much stuff in her to ensure that the Soviet is disposed of in time of war. I think we were supposed to build a bunch of those things and it was too expensive for its own good. There should be three give or take one out there now.
I paid rapt attention to the stuff among the younger ones related to video game. I started off with Tandy 1000 off a cassette tape decades ago then to coleco and ataris in the 70's. And so on. Online since 90 and playing multiplayer war games with Novalogic I think 1998 give or take. These were the first of their kind online.
I never owned a xbox. The last system was a Genesis from Sega with 688 attack boat and M1 Tank game on it. Which in those days was the bees knees. There was a Nintendo SNES 64 bit with the Doom game then. It was epic.
We did have conversations later in gaming with the old Point of Existence Mod, Battlefields, and Wows etc. Where war is reduced to a simple form to where anyone can sit down in a Military Object, be a tank, sub, ship, base or drone or whatever today and pick up a controller that they ran in childhood and then become part of whatever weapons, optics, sensory and comms is attached to it in a few moments for United States of America in War and in Peace anywhere on the Planet Earth or above it.
Theoretically I can sit here on this computer and drive a 18 wheeler across the USA in real time with fast connections and associated sensory aboard the rig. And make the necessary human decisions to make it from A to B in real time. If I needed to sleep or eat etc the network will pass the control of the rig to another human somewhere in the Nation and they will take it on. In short theres no need to physically sit aboard with all the experience, training and all that anymore. Its push button in Trucking now. Soon to be robotic which is happening now.
If we were to make war with drone, sub, plane, ships, tanks etc without people in them then we were going to realize the Vision of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Terminator movie from a few decades back where its all machine war.
I would hate to think that the old Beloved New Jersey Battleship or perhaps the Olympia or perhaps the whatever it is that visited Baltimore in Cold War time in modern ships i have been visiting would be so difficult to man, train, use in battle or in quiet times as they are. Its quite alot that goes into these. Its wonderful.
Now you can almost take a batch of High Schoolers and tell them go into this vessal with the new stuff and go to sea, into the sky or drive on the land etc and space too someday. They will just get up and go.
I grow old. And hold onto the old ways. But its wonderful that they are thinking of those young ones today and the future 30 years of the unborn who will not need to know very much at all to make war under the direction of our Leadership and their Military Command. And it will be very effective.
I could dream.
Funny re the Xbox controller, a similar example is in the British Challenger 2 MBT as the gunners control for traversing the turret and elevating and depressing the gun is molded to be the same shape and layout as a PlayStation controller.
Get the first installed Xbox controller that is maintenanced out during its tour. It would be really cool to say that "on display is the first conning tower controller... Made by Microsoft."
I'm fortunate enough to have snagged tickets to her commissioning ceremony!
Me too!
@garywayne6083 see you there!
I'm glad the military is learning lessons from the titanic sub
At 00:47, is that the guy from smartereveryday deep dive series? The radar tech?
I have a question about the periscope... Where do you put the quarters and how many minutes of play do you get? :P
Thinking about your videos on the hypothetical reactivation of your USS New Jersey, what would happen to the name if that happened? Has the US Navy ever reactivated a decommissioned vessel with a commissioned one currently in service?
I hope subs or on-shore support don’t have Windows computers using CrowdStrike! Great video as always!
heard somewhere that the navy has systems running on windows 7 Today, and Microsoft won the contract to keep the program updated.
You can bet the USN isn’t getting those Xbox controllers for anywhere close to 20 bucks on eBay. 😊
Our goverment was supposedly looking at acquiring some Virginia class nuclear subs as a
'pre-cursor' to the so-called Aukus pact ones but I've got no info on what's happening with that since I'm not in the Aus Navy or even in the military or a miltary contractor.
It's been a while, but last I heard no subs would actually be transferred to Australia until the 2030's; however, Australian submariners are currently being assigned to US boats. By the time the subs are transferred I'm quite certain they'll be among the best crewed in the world.
Administrations change and ships get stuck in the Suez canal - which unfortunately leads to logistical problems with some consumer electronic goods, without which, the US Navy is unfortunately unable to complete production of certain submarines and aircraft carriers.
It's a complicated business - especially when it requires the cooperation of China, India, Egypt, Israel, Germany, South Korea, Brazil, Canada, France, Singapore, Vietnam, Mexico, Taiwan and some assorted other countries for us to collect all the little bits and pieces we need to construct our warships and make sure the computers have the software they require.
The silicon and steel is the easy part - we can probably throw enough money at reverse-engineering the physical components we need and we can always invade some countries if we have to go get some rare-Earth metals - but, until we teach more kids to be software engineers - it'll probably take about 10-15 years of lead-time if we find ourselves in the unenviable position of having to write our own source-code.
Cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!
are there any artifacts from either Battleship New Jersey on the sub? Commissioning silver or any other items?
It was a big deal to turn the Nautilus into a museum, very unlikely any more modern nuclear powered ship will ever become a museum. The Nautilus being relatively small meant they didn't have that much to cut through to remove the reactor and then rebuild the hull and add extra plate in that area of the hull because people were paranoid about contamination of the river from the hull that was around the reactor.
Been to see it many times, my dad was in the navy in the mid 50s on a diesel sub and had a friend on the Nautilus, one time when they were both in New London he got to go on board for a tour and his friend let him look in the reactor room. He was not supposed to see that and they both got chewed out pretty badly. When it became a museum ship he would go over there probably once a year.
Ive seen a video game controller on a underwater craft before
Can the sailors invert the Y axis on the controller?
The original Patriot missile control was modeled after Missile Command from Atari
Speaking of which, wouldn't the Battleship New Jersey make a great platform for installing multiple Patriot missile batteries for situations like the Houthi problem in the Red Sea? It's hull armor would allow less concern over in-water dangers while it lead the way to intercepting the hundreds of missiles and drones they are firing at merchant and combat ships.
Idk about submarines, but most modern large naval ships have rec/ game rooms. Usually with an Xbox in them. So hopefully if the submarine has one too, and the periscope controller breaks or gets stuck drift, you can just steal the good one out of the game room and give the bored sailors the the broken one. They won’t be happy, but at least you got a backup.
That’s very optimistic. You _know_ that the good controllers are all going to end up in the messes and the optics controller is going to continually pull to the left and have a broken “B” button…
Awesome video is always Ryan but I have a question. I knew that the New Virginia's were not going to deploy periscopes. In the traditional sense and the photonics mast replace the traditional periscope. So my question is, is what does the captain say when he wants to take a look on the surface? Does he still say periscope? Depth raise the periscope, Or does he say photonic mass depth, Raise the photonic mast?
They just say Scope 1 or 2
Thank you all for your service!