REMINDER: THIS LIST IS A DRAFT, but did you find this format helpful?? It's way easier for me to just use something like tiermaker and to be less precise in my recommendations. So let me know if you like the S+/- system or you'd rather just do a top 5 garrisons and call it a day. Also, more secret tech for constantine... use an inscription that gives you a shield.
Fleisch has over 50 reports of kvk pass, gorgo constantine. After the update too, it isnt a joke, it’s a reality, trades are great. Look at that synergy between them
Hey chisgule for kvk 3 what pairs are better a 5411 alex with relic 1 mehmed or 5411 alex with exp relic 1 ethel and what's better relic 1 mehmed as a secondary for a 5521 scipio or a ethel or alexander alex needs to be primary before I get scipio because my gear all has infantry tallents
What if you don't have Gorgo as you are open field player and never get into it. Is expertised CM with double relic + expertised LC or SciP a solid option for the odd case you make a mistake and get swarmed in KvK?
Nope! Gorgo is better for the rage reduction. And if you’re getting swarmed you have enough rage that the damage boost from charles will still be active for the gorgo active skill, even when charles is the secondary.
Gorgo + Constantine , ? They are best garrison for infa ? That mean i will have scipio + liu ( both expert ) for open field And Gorgo + Constantine ( will work to make them expert ) for garrison Then my ( expert ) alexnder what should i do with him 😅 Or what do you suggest to me , i am lost
Leaved the video when i saw Charles over jan, Chisgule you won’t believe it but many people are not in an Imperium kingdom and will never trade positive with a Charles gorgo. I will come back to this channel when I join an imperium/ a seed or Chisgule is more that an advertisement for SW and Tipps for top end kingdoms
Yes, unless you're a crazy spender who already has everything else for the field. But I especially wouldn't max before we find out what the upcoming cav garrison does
Nope. I refuse to buy into the constantine meme. Gorgo/Const only worked because of the 4th skill breaking the max capacity for the garrison. Now that its patched, Const just does not do enough dmg to out trade in long battles.
@@tabularasa7887 and I've seen just as many reports where gorgo/const gets absolutely destroyed, what's your point? You can't ignore one half of the evidence when you make a conclusion. The simple fact of the matter is that a good garrison is more than just stats and dmg reduction. It needs to do dmg as well, and gorgo/const deals far less dmg than any current meta rally.
@@tabularasa7887 I saw the stream I traded even/negative vs archers gilgamesh zhuge counterralys and the rally swarmed to zero. If the rallys gets swarmed to 0 and you have 3m troops left on the pass trading even it's a bad guarrisson
Why do you have to go and mention coin when I'm already agonizing about what materials to hold/use... Triple Horn ring already. Makes me want to have a coin to test haha.
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REMINDER: THIS LIST IS A DRAFT, but did you find this format helpful?? It's way easier for me to just use something like tiermaker and to be less precise in my recommendations. So let me know if you like the S+/- system or you'd rather just do a top 5 garrisons and call it a day. Also, more secret tech for constantine... use an inscription that gives you a shield.
Fleisch has over 50 reports of kvk pass, gorgo constantine. After the update too, it isnt a joke, it’s a reality, trades are great. Look at that synergy between them
Holy SMOKES! List in LATE 2023 w/ S+ for martel AND constantine? Best believe it folks, the nostalgia hype is REAL!
What kd are you in im 03😂
Used Gorgo/Constantine in Ark past weekend with Ring/Horn and it killed swarms(400k sevs to 1.1 mil sevs) and no rally could crack it.
No you want charles primary because his active skill gives 30% all dmg for 3 sec so that will apply to gorgo skill
Gorgo has 900 rage requirements
Hey chisgule for kvk 3 what pairs are better a 5411 alex with relic 1 mehmed or 5411 alex with exp relic 1 ethel and what's better relic 1 mehmed as a secondary for a 5521 scipio or a ethel or alexander alex needs to be primary before I get scipio because my gear all has infantry tallents
Hey chis! Is Justinian mehmed good rally? Just curious 😊thanks
How did Gorgo/Constantine preform in open field ?
What about gorgo liu for garrison chisgule?
What if you don't have Gorgo as you are open field player and never get into it. Is expertised CM with double relic + expertised LC or SciP a solid option for the odd case you make a mistake and get swarmed in KvK?
Think! Charles primary boost 30% damage for 4 seconds! Charles primary does better against rally but in swarm both primary are ok
Nope! Gorgo is better for the rage reduction. And if you’re getting swarmed you have enough rage that the damage boost from charles will still be active for the gorgo active skill, even when charles is the secondary.
@@Chisgule That's why i told you in swarm both primary are ok and no difference! But in 1v1 Charles primary is better why you don't test to find out🤷
Bro forgot Gorgo Liu.... My Gorgo Liu was undefeated hah
the video was very heplful with my upcomming pass opening in a day.
How is Gorgoh Liu in garrison?
Is the talent of the secondary garrison commander used? Because there is no explanatory note confirming this
Gorgo + Constantine , ? They are best garrison for infa ?
That mean i will have scipio + liu ( both expert ) for open field
And Gorgo + Constantine ( will work to make them expert ) for garrison
Then my ( expert ) alexnder what should i do with him 😅
Or what do you suggest to me , i am lost
Leaved the video when i saw Charles over jan, Chisgule you won’t believe it but many people are not in an Imperium kingdom and will never trade positive with a Charles gorgo. I will come back to this channel when I join an imperium/ a seed or Chisgule is more that an advertisement for SW and Tipps for top end kingdoms
Did you understand the difference between a vs rally and vs swarm as listed in the charts?
Zeno/Gorgo or Gorgo/Constantine been hit with a Gilga/Thutmose full relic?
Archer Garrison missing Art and Minator?
Leadership and troop type doesn’t seem to matter anymore since the new accessory came out making all troops seem as one
You can't apply artifact for garrison? I wish i saw some Dido + Jan with archer artifact on him 😅
You can
I like Hera but i dont do garrisoning… would be waste to max Hera?
Yes, unless you're a crazy spender who already has everything else for the field. But I especially wouldn't max before we find out what the upcoming cav garrison does
mentioning coin and gorgo and hera shields or charles shields.....i think hollow square is the low key Best in slot formation
I think that could be true with Gorgo Charles
Where can we get direct access to the spreadsheet, please?
Chis the zizka hera report has a lvl 10 hera, meaning it was a 5000 and only traded 10k negative against nev/justi
A commander can be max at lvl 10
Lvl doesnt matter as long as commander has 4 stars and all of his/her skills are maxed.
Oh ok, I forgot that hack u can do with Stars…
Thoughts on YSS/Zhuge ?
Never considered it before, can’t imagine it’s meta
Gorgo wu zetian Will this be a good idea?
I don’t think Wu is at all in consideration right now
@@ChisguleIt could really work well
Why is Theodora not on this list at all?
Can GORGO and CONSTANTINE be effective for Sunset Canyon and other fighting??
Its not even effective in the garrison its a meme. There is a reason its not being used despite him boasting it
@@Vermonster19are you stupid? It is used alot. Im in kvk and Gorgo Constantine is almost impossible to beat!
Gorgo liu no garrison ?
soo good video love your videos
What about Charles / Hera???
Nope. I refuse to buy into the constantine meme. Gorgo/Const only worked because of the 4th skill breaking the max capacity for the garrison. Now that its patched, Const just does not do enough dmg to out trade in long battles.
Same and same ranking like hera for antiswarm where constantine does not have any antiswarm. Stats stick does not mean is antiswarm
Fleisch has over 50 pass reports, gorgo constantine. After the update too, It is very real.
@@tabularasa7887 and I've seen just as many reports where gorgo/const gets absolutely destroyed, what's your point? You can't ignore one half of the evidence when you make a conclusion. The simple fact of the matter is that a good garrison is more than just stats and dmg reduction. It needs to do dmg as well, and gorgo/const deals far less dmg than any current meta rally.
The bug/patch has little impact on the outcome of a Gorgo/Constantine garrison.
@@tabularasa7887 I saw the stream I traded even/negative vs archers gilgamesh zhuge counterralys and the rally swarmed to zero. If the rallys gets swarmed to 0 and you have 3m troops left on the pass trading even it's a bad guarrisson
Gorgo/YSS?
why dont you make video with fruit dealer will be best video
What about Charles and Hera?
No rank for hera/yss?
Maybe I should have watched the entire video. Lol.
I have to say that hera/yss was a go to garrison for us and it didi really well.
1855 here it was a crazy kvk gg
So much boasting on gorgo constatine yet i cant see one report or one video of it being used
Fleish just made a vid with like 50 reports showcasing it
Heraclius YSS top no doubt
Wish he had this chart to grade rallies. :/
Why do you have to go and mention coin when I'm already agonizing about what materials to hold/use...
Triple Horn ring already. Makes me want to have a coin to test haha.
I thought Flavius / Hera would be better.
Video 8 of asking. Please make a video about the ranged commanders. Or at least test them again since they got a massive buff recently.
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Plz make a video of ranking city garrison combos of every troop main. I am a Cavalry main and i need to find the best garrison combo for my city.
Your best bet is to never put yourself in a situation where your city can be attacked. And focus your heads on other things.
@@RobbyMorton You never know, when there are some players become Rogue and team up in home kingdom. Or sometime you want to become rogue. So be prepared before-hand. We are currently in civil war
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