The Electoral College only applies to the President. Every other representative official at the federal, state and municipal level is chosen by popular vote alone. So to say that the whole system doesn’t represent the will of the people is very misleading.
what do you expect dw simps for terrorists so they love authoritarian systems, we are foremost a republic, every state gets a voice in determining the chief executive of this country they don't understand how important the electoral college is, without it we would have mob rule and new york and california will decide every election till the end of time or the US whichever comes first.
@jeremytine In most cases, the president needs the Senate approval for appointments and the Senate can override the president if they have enough numbers to do so.
@@musabarry2408 - Very simple the electoral college was formed by the founding fathers to prevent the tyranny of the majority, imagine 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner, in a pure democracy you don't want to be the sheep. You want to protect the rights of the minorities. In this case the smaller lower population states which need to have some say in the election decision so their votes are not swamped by the larger states.
@@musabarry2408 listen, electoral college was introduced by the founding fathers to prevent the dictatorship of the majority, the majority can also behave like tyrants. The US is a constitutional republic, where the president is not elected by popular vote, while senators and congressmen are. If not for the electoral college, candidates for sure will ignore the rural areas and just campaign in large cities like LA, Chicago and NY. Does that ring the bell about the Tyranny of the majority? When the federal republic was stablished, all states requested to have a voice otherwise NO DEAL. Just imagine small population states like Montana and Wyoming, they will be totally ignored, is that fair? Is that democratic? Their policies will be dictated by socialist California.
Then Democratic will rule all time because California people Vote=other States of American people Vote 😂😂. Californian voters try to make them a Swing State😊 not as vote bank of Democrate (many times )as per system California people vote Will worth much greater than other states.😂
The founding father made it that. To protect against mob rule. Why should people in Wyoming and Dakota and Idaho be ruled over by the coastal elites who have nothing but loathing for their belief and way of life.
Removing the Electoral College would make every presidential election hinge on the most populous cities; California and New York would ultimately decide every race. That's not fair to the rest of the country. The Electoral College works fine. Swing states get the most importance because their electorates can "swing". States that always vote red or blue are less important because their electorates don't swing. If they want to be more important, then they should be open to voting differently.
Yeah - those treacherous Founding Fathers. It is a Democratic Republic. Stop whining. It worked out well for gay rights activist when the vast majority of the country was not keen to those ideas.
how exactly is it broken? it gives every state a voice. if we didn't have the electoral college new york and california would decide every election and states like kansa, north and south dakota and the other smaller states would have no say and would simply be swept over. this way whoever is running for office needs to care about every state. gosh they stopped teaching actual history in schools and we end up with a generation of zombies.
Without the Electral College, candidates would only care about NYC, Los Angeles and Chicago, ignoring the people who do the majority of work, consumption, and tax paying! It’s a system the works! Along with FREE SPEECH, something nobody else has, especially Germany!
We have democracies in Europe, and we don’t have the electoral college, and in works fine. It obviously makes sense, the candidate with the most votes gets the highest position, the parties with less votes get lower government positions. That’s the way it’s been forever.
Not true. Rural areas would still be needed, especially if they voted for one side more often. Also your assertion that people who live in cities don't work is ridiculous... As for your free speech claim, Germany has free political speech. The one exception being promotion of hate speech and violence. Which is also restricted in the U S. just fyi...
@@markushaahr9194US is a republic. republic is a government that operates under some guidelines, namely the Constitution, and a democracy is a government that can convince the majority to support whatever agenda the leader of that government has at any given time.
@@V.Perez1985 The only reason you think the Electoral College is less fair, is because you think America is a national democracy, rather than a federation of individual nations. Luckily, no matter how much you whine about it, it’s not going to change in your lifetime, it’s been working for 200+ years, we good.
yeah it guarantees that california and new york don't decide every election till the end of time. we are a republic not a majority rule tyranny. they stopped teaching this in schools so we end up with uir bs and the bs of many other too dumb to understand that the system works as intended and makes sure we don't live under mob rule like everyother country.
Yeah that would be the Tyranny of the majority, which is why the founding fathers did not make a pure democracy. Ask two wolves and a sheep what they are having for dinner and then you have the pure democratic outcome, tyranny of the majority.
@@losttribe9107 Were not talking about civil rights were talking about presidential elections, but you know that. I think roe vs wade being over turned by the minority is answer to your question enough and as far as civil rights are concerned as well. We have these rights because the majority wills it. If the minority continues to get their way we'll lose those rights too. Your question is ignorant and rooted in the past.
@@thecheese1226 Hmm - me thinks many of those rights were obtained when the majority of America was not fully onboard. Sheesh - the electoral college ensures no one region has an overstated sway in the outcome. Believe me, not all Americans think like Californians.
In effect, Congress chooses the winners. The selection of President and Vice President is the result of popular-vote elections in each separate state (and the District of Columbia), based on the number of each state's congressional representation. Plus, the President's job of running the the government has changed considerably since 1787. Then, the President's job was mainly to conduct foreign affairs. Today, his (or her) job has grown much larger larger, both domestically and internationally.
Regardless of the outcome, the situation is concerning for Germany, and the future appears grim. Trump’s tariffs and Kamala's approach to conflict exacerbate the challenges ahead.😔
Well it is certainly a Democracy and that's how the system works. I mean no government has an ideal democracy, however such a thing would be defined. It is still a functioning democracy though, and has been longer than any other in the world.
@layneparker7408 The USA is a democratic republic and has clear historical causes/reasons of existence. What exactly is an information I got wrong and could have got right by "doing research"?😄 I merely pointed to the problems that the country has and which other democracies have successfully solved.
@JG-xi4tu Actually, it's a constitutional republic of 50 federalist states much like the European union and has an electoral college much like the EU so states like California, New York, Texas don't decide every election. In the case of the European union it keeps countries like Germany and France from deciding every outcome.
@@JG-xi4tu I bet you feel so smart repeating junk you heard. You really need to learn about the system before you get snarky about one of the greatest nations the world has ever seen.
the US is a union just like the EU & not a unitary state. So electoral college is the best model. We wouldnt want more populated states deciding for everyone now would we? Imagine say Germany & France making decisions for the whole EU. Oh wait, nevermind, bad example.😂
@@markushaahr9194 Please note that Europe has been relying on the US for military support since WW2, which means a lot of money that Euro nations should have been spent on defense matters instead went into social programs. Take away that prop and Europe's quality of life must suffer.
@@y6cd3sdzHs1g remember that America forced Germany to have less of a military. If Germany had a bigger military that wouldn’t be the case. Plus, that’s not excuse for America to not have healthcare. All citizens need access to healthcare, it’s a state security matter. You need citizens to be healthy for domestic security, same reason you need infrastructure to be maintained.
I guess if they keep us hating each other Democrat Republican they have done their job on the news stations. I remember voting for the person at one time regardless of party. Not no more
How dare small states not wish to be dominated by big states. Dont they know they should be dominated and subjugated to the will of the big states, fall in line...the German way! -DW logic
Yeah, that’s why you are on American TH-cam, using American Internet, on your American invented phone, using American technology and apps. lol cry me a river.
Intellectually weak guest. He should steel man the argument for the electoral college while being opposed... instead he straw mans the other side. Imagine you live in Alaska - it has a very small population (3 EVs), but is very important economically and geopolitically. The people of Alaska deserve a say in national elections. Additionally, consider the most populous state California (55 EVs). If the election was decided by popular vote, they would dominate and believe me, the other 49 states dont want to be governed like California. We just want the real estate (e.g. nature, weather, etc)
The Electoral College only applies to the President. Every other representative official at the federal, state and municipal level is chosen by popular vote alone. So to say that the whole system doesn’t represent the will of the people is very misleading.
Gerrymandering and unchecked dark money often accomplishes the _tyranny of the minority_ in those elections, sadly.
what do you expect dw simps for terrorists so they love authoritarian systems, we are foremost a republic, every state gets a voice in determining the chief executive of this country they don't understand how important the electoral college is, without it we would have mob rule and new york and california will decide every election till the end of time or the US whichever comes first.
Sadly, neither Americans, nor people who watch DW news, would know that.
@@alpharius_noxgiven the power the president holds, to veto, to appoint scouts, etc it isn't misleading
@jeremytine In most cases, the president needs the Senate approval for appointments and the Senate can override the president if they have enough numbers to do so.
That is not democracy
That's correct. It's always been a Constitutional Republic of 50 individual States.
You're WRONG and ignorant
@Investor-101-i4s how is it a democracy when majority vote don't count?? Explain that logic
@@musabarry2408 - Very simple the electoral college was formed by the founding fathers to prevent the tyranny of the majority, imagine 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner, in a pure democracy you don't want to be the sheep. You want to protect the rights of the minorities. In this case the smaller lower population states which need to have some say in the election decision so their votes are not swamped by the larger states.
@@musabarry2408 listen, electoral college was introduced by the founding fathers to prevent the dictatorship of the majority, the majority can also behave like tyrants. The US is a constitutional republic, where the president is not elected by popular vote, while senators and congressmen are. If not for the electoral college, candidates for sure will ignore the rural areas and just campaign in large cities like LA, Chicago and NY. Does that ring the bell about the Tyranny of the majority? When the federal republic was stablished, all states requested to have a voice otherwise NO DEAL. Just imagine small population states like Montana and Wyoming, they will be totally ignored, is that fair? Is that democratic? Their policies will be dictated by socialist California.
As a Californian, my vote is worth much less than someone in rural Wyoming. It's a messed up system.
Then Democratic will rule all time because California people Vote=other States of American people Vote 😂😂.
Californian voters try to make them a Swing State😊 not as vote bank of Democrate (many times )as per system California people vote Will worth much greater than other states.😂
It would be the same if you flipped it 🤷♂️
The founding father made it that. To protect against mob rule. Why should people in Wyoming and Dakota and Idaho be ruled over by the coastal elites who have nothing but loathing for their belief and way of life.
The United States is a better place because the entire country isn’t like California
There are more ppl on CA than WY. It's fair
Removing the Electoral College would make every presidential election hinge on the most populous cities; California and New York would ultimately decide every race. That's not fair to the rest of the country.
The Electoral College works fine. Swing states get the most importance because their electorates can "swing". States that always vote red or blue are less important because their electorates don't swing. If they want to be more important, then they should be open to voting differently.
Electoral college simply put -- elevates conservative states whose voices are loud, but less than the rest
Yeah - those treacherous Founding Fathers. It is a Democratic Republic. Stop whining. It worked out well for gay rights activist when the vast majority of the country was not keen to those ideas.
Electoral college is broken
how exactly is it broken? it gives every state a voice. if we didn't have the electoral college new york and california would decide every election and states like kansa, north and south dakota and the other smaller states would have no say and would simply be swept over. this way whoever is running for office needs to care about every state. gosh they stopped teaching actual history in schools and we end up with a generation of zombies.
Without the Electral College, candidates would only care about NYC, Los Angeles and Chicago, ignoring the people who do the majority of work, consumption, and tax paying! It’s a system the works! Along with FREE SPEECH, something nobody else has, especially Germany!
We have democracies in Europe, and we don’t have the electoral college, and in works fine. It obviously makes sense, the candidate with the most votes gets the highest position, the parties with less votes get lower government positions. That’s the way it’s been forever.
Not true. Rural areas would still be needed, especially if they voted for one side more often. Also your assertion that people who live in cities don't work is ridiculous... As for your free speech claim, Germany has free political speech. The one exception being promotion of hate speech and violence. Which is also restricted in the U S. just fyi...
But with this system, don't they only care about the swing states?
False. Red states have large cities too. And no, dem states do most of the work, pay most of the taxes, subsidizing red states
@@markushaahr9194US is a republic. republic is a government that operates under some guidelines, namely the Constitution, and a democracy is a government that can convince the majority to support whatever agenda the leader of that government has at any given time.
What is the need of the people voting if their vote will not make them win ?
This guy is definitely biased
Some states have proportional electoral votes which is more fair
Something can not be "more" fair. It's either fair or it isn't.
@@thecheese1226so then "closer to being fair". Have fun with your daily dose of semantics.
@V.Perez1985 🤣😂🤣
@@V.Perez1985 The only reason you think the Electoral College is less fair, is because you think America is a national democracy, rather than a federation of individual nations. Luckily, no matter how much you whine about it, it’s not going to change in your lifetime, it’s been working for 200+ years, we good.
@@thecheese1226 You need to improve your english
DW started justification of probable Trump win😂
Interesting 😂
Yeah, elections would be different in that the majority vote would actually rule.
yeah it guarantees that california and new york don't decide every election till the end of time. we are a republic not a majority rule tyranny. they stopped teaching this in schools so we end up with uir bs and the bs of many other too dumb to understand that the system works as intended and makes sure we don't live under mob rule like everyother country.
Hmm - think that would have worked out well for civil or gay rights?
Yeah that would be the Tyranny of the majority, which is why the founding fathers did not make a pure democracy. Ask two wolves and a sheep what they are having for dinner and then you have the pure democratic outcome, tyranny of the majority.
@@losttribe9107 Were not talking about civil rights were talking about presidential elections, but you know that. I think roe vs wade being over turned by the minority is answer to your question enough and as far as civil rights are concerned as well. We have these rights because the majority wills it. If the minority continues to get their way we'll lose those rights too. Your question is ignorant and rooted in the past.
@@thecheese1226 Hmm - me thinks many of those rights were obtained when the majority of America was not fully onboard. Sheesh - the electoral college ensures no one region has an overstated sway in the outcome. Believe me, not all Americans think like Californians.
Ironic coming from a country that once hosted the Holy Roman Empire that was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.
And Kamala said the democracy is under threat
In effect, Congress chooses the winners. The selection of President and Vice President is the result of popular-vote elections in each separate state (and the District of Columbia), based on the number of each state's congressional representation. Plus, the President's job of running the the government has changed considerably since 1787. Then, the President's job was mainly to conduct foreign affairs. Today, his (or her) job has grown much larger larger, both domestically and internationally.
USA system is messy.
Electoral college, in my view, is a genius system. The term " majority rules minority " is out of the window. 🎉
Regardless of the outcome, the situation is concerning for Germany, and the future appears grim. Trump’s tariffs and Kamala's approach to conflict exacerbate the challenges ahead.😔
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If the candidate with the most votes loses isn't not a Democracy.
It's always been a constitutional Republic of 50 individual States. Who told you it was a democracy?
@@Wolfcamp555 Every American politician
I sure hope you don't vote if you don't know that the United States is a constitutional republic
@@sharingtherealworld
And you believed them? You should study the Constitution.
Well it is certainly a Democracy and that's how the system works. I mean no government has an ideal democracy, however such a thing would be defined. It is still a functioning democracy though, and has been longer than any other in the world.
no it doesn't
This man’s narrative is dangerous and divisive
DW, you need guests with more credibility
I agree. There is a reason the founding fathers didn't set up the USA as a fully democratic country.
When love has reign in this institutional global bloody mess, I mean, evil world?.......
The USA is a minimum-requirements Democracy odered on wish.
US is a republic and for good reason. You should do some research before commenting.
@layneparker7408 The USA is a democratic republic and has clear historical causes/reasons of existence.
What exactly is an information I got wrong and could have got right by "doing research"?😄
I merely pointed to the problems that the country has and which other democracies have successfully solved.
@JG-xi4tu Actually, it's a constitutional republic of 50 federalist states much like the European union and has an electoral college much like the EU so states like California, New York, Texas don't decide every election. In the case of the European union it keeps countries like Germany and France from deciding every outcome.
@@JG-xi4tu I bet you feel so smart repeating junk you heard. You really need to learn about the system before you get snarky about one of the greatest nations the world has ever seen.
Keep it, if we can. @@layneparker7408
Kamala 52% , Trump 46.7%
🎉🎉🎉
Becouse that's how a democracy works 😊
the US is a union just like the EU & not a unitary state. So electoral college is the best model. We wouldnt want more populated states deciding for everyone now would we? Imagine say Germany & France making decisions for the whole EU. Oh wait, nevermind, bad example.😂
And the quality of life hasn’t lowered in Europe in 2 decades.’c except for the musies.
Lmao. Perfect example. We are 50 individual States United in the general economic welfare and common defense. It's that simple.
@@markushaahr9194 Really? Germany is in the verge of economic collapse.
@@markushaahr9194 Please note that Europe has been relying on the US for military support since WW2, which means a lot of money that Euro nations should have been spent on defense matters instead went into social programs. Take away that prop and Europe's quality of life must suffer.
@@y6cd3sdzHs1g remember that America forced Germany to have less of a military. If Germany had a bigger military that wouldn’t be the case. Plus, that’s not excuse for America to not have healthcare. All citizens need access to healthcare, it’s a state security matter. You need citizens to be healthy for domestic security, same reason you need infrastructure to be maintained.
Of course they have the most liberal guest and Pro Biden !
I guess if they keep us hating each other Democrat Republican they have done their job on the news stations. I remember voting for the person at one time regardless of party. Not no more
How dare small states not wish to be dominated by big states. Dont they know they should be dominated and subjugated to the will of the big states, fall in line...the German way!
-DW logic
IF YOU DONT LIKE THE SYSTEM PLEASE LEAVE THE UNION! WE DONT WANT YOU - From the Midwest
That didn't go particularly well the last time many states wanted to secede.
Americans do things backwards
Yeah, that’s why you are on American TH-cam, using American Internet, on your American invented phone, using American technology and apps. lol cry me a river.
You depend on America, so deal with it
@alpharius_nox Touche
@@AbsolutelyFabulous3 True
Wow! That guy is a professor?
Intellectually weak guest. He should steel man the argument for the electoral college while being opposed... instead he straw mans the other side. Imagine you live in Alaska - it has a very small population (3 EVs), but is very important economically and geopolitically. The people of Alaska deserve a say in national elections. Additionally, consider the most populous state California (55 EVs). If the election was decided by popular vote, they would dominate and believe me, the other 49 states dont want to be governed like California. We just want the real estate (e.g. nature, weather, etc)
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