Security Stories 7 - Biker Gangs
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- If you are a Sons of Anarchy fan you probably have some ideas about Bikers. Of course that was fictional... I got to experience their lifestyle first hand after working two venues that they frequented. We got pretty friendly and I ended up invited to their social events and even a wedding. I talk about some of those experiences and why ultimately I chose to cease the friendship and move on. Doing 23 years of security gave me some unique insights into worlds normally hidden from the average person. Hopefully these videos allow me to cast some light into these darker places..
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I worked as a musician in the 80's and 90's. Lost count of the number of biker gigs we played at. Often in their clubs. My impressions are pretty much the same as yours. They tend to run along the same lines. They are brotherhoods, based upon their own type of honour and culture. Respect them, don't ask any questions, stay well clear of their business, enjoy their humour, generosity and company. Play the music they enjoy. After the show pack up and go home. And you'll be welcome back. They were better employers than many bar owners!
So, don't play YMCA?
@@tedwojtasik8781 wrong leather bar xp
😂@@calmc9655
Interesting insight into a world most of us don't see. Please keep the stories coming.
You got sone real balls, the bike gangs really are gangs and they will really go off on you, especially when liquor and speed gets involved. And yeah, isn’t it funny how regimented these outsider groups are, it reminds of the punk guys I knew back in the early 80s who were so about individuality except you had to have a certain haircut, jacket, boots, etc.
"Now yous can't leave"
- A Bronx Tale
Great movie! Think I will watch it again!
I worked with the son of the leader of "The Black Widows"! Went to a 1%'er party when I was maybe 14. I had no problems but didn't stay too long. They make their money from peoples suffering so it's a matter of basic ethics and misery loving company.
People find these stories hard to believe because they are absolutely mad. Keep them coming they're fantastic and really interesting
Love the content mate - could you do a video on de-escalation? Seems the most important part of door work but no one ever talks about it
Good comment
@@davidwithey1479 sure thing!
@@NoNowwwell yeah of course, but for everyone one of those situations, there are 10 which could easily be resolved with a few words and common decency
@@NoNowwwellit usually depends on how determined to fight they are. They know you have to at least try to deescalate and if they aren’t in the mood for talking it can get a bit Leary.
I totally believe these stories are true. I was a biker. I was never a three patch club member, but I knew some of these guys. And I’ve seen some stuff, too.
It's all true.
Not a biker myself,but used to drink in the same places they did,and even some club's and pubs that they owned and ran.It's common knowledge how they operate.
I've had prospects tell me to leave because I was talking to the wrong woman.As long as you show some respect you should be ok.
@@ravenmad9225 Yeah, all the Angles I ever met were cool guys, but I wouldn’t cross one of them.
Ex military here. Off topic, why do veterans and bikers get alone shockingly well 🍻
I met the Chilean rose 😂😂
@@ryanjohnston3229 because the original biker culture came from ex WW2 vets returning home to a pop culture that was hostile to vets and to patriotism. The vets could purchase old army surplus Harleys for pennies…. both groups have hierarchy, brotherhood, and love of partying in common. 👍
One funny prospect story I know of was when he had to ride from Cheshire in the early hours to buy a Mars Bar from a service station in Milton Keynes and bring back the receipt as proof! Lol...
I'd have come back with a Milky Way just to be awkward!! 😂
The very same in Ireland when a prospect was summed to bring a letter from Dublin straight to be posted from Donegal - the letter was addressed back to the club bar.
@@bonnieboy190 Lol...
Used to work with a member of the big famous mcc, really nice bloke, could tell hed done some stuff in his life, but he was always alright with us. I tend to think the club members are a bit like coppers. Decent enough people when you're dealing with them individually, but when you get a few of them, they can start playing up for each other.
Do you mean the big famous MC?
@@moorshound3243 yeah, force of habit I grew up riding trials and watching Enduro. In that setting it's Motor Cycle Club (MCC), whereas in the context we're discussing here, it's Motorcycle Club (MC).
@steve5772 yep I know it's sad but it matters to some.
Your stories reminded me a little bit of some of the experiences Hunter Thompson reported in his book many years ago.
@@KristianWontroba I love Hunter S Thompson. Dr Gonzo rules!
I remember the phrase from that book "all for one, and all on one" which lines up with the club rule he mentioned.
Yes this is all standard fare for the top clubs - I know a couple of rock hard old school bikers who joined up in the early days - but were so disgusted by the immoral behaviour that they soon left. Proper outlaws - wouldn't conform or follow the herd.
Good mates with the man who started the first UK chapter back in the late 60's.
Great channel brother - thanks for the fantastic content 👍
A pleasure!
Great channel! Love your insight & humble presentation.
Glad you enjoy it!
You are an incredible storyteller..
I am fully captivated!
Thank you ❤
A pleasure!
Hey man. Appreciate the video and sharing your stories. Please don’t give the troll’s/haters any air time just by mentioning it. They ain’t worth it, probably haven’t lived any sort of life themselves, and are just full of sadness and hate.
All the best.
@@Inverse_Midas Appreciate it bud.
Loving this series, looking forward to more of them.
Love these stories mate
You have a talent for recounting things
I haven't even watched this video yet, but I love your stories. Thank you for being truthful. Keep posting!
Thank you! Will do!
Love to hear about your interesting experiences. When I was a young whippersnapper back in the 70s, I used to party with friends at clubs similar to the clubs you've commented on. However, my friends and I would beat feet when things started popping off! LOL Love your content sir, you're a great storyteller.😀
You've got the aura of 9th century king's best and closest knight who he confides in and trusts to be fair in his dealings with the general public.
Thanks!
All of these have been excellent, thanks for the post!
@@JimmyChangE16 Thanks Jimmy!
Fascinating insight.Look forward to you next Security Stories.Thanks.
I really love when people have been so sheltered they’ve never met a rough or desperate person so they decide they don’t exist actually.
Or neo 'liberals' who believe in multiculturalism despite living in the nicest white areas... Thankfully they're slowly waking up too
Interesting stuff and I totally believe you, ignore the doubters they do not understand how the world works because they obviously haven't seen much of it.
Read Sonny Barger’s book on the Hells Angels if you want to learn more about the 1% clubs General rules and their origins.
I’ve been a biker since 1980 and am a lone biker. But have come across my local chapter of the Hells Angels and another biker club in the past.
As long as you respect a 1% club I’ve found they won’t bother you.
I’ve also known a few bikers who were, or are, friends of the well known biker clubs (NOT gangs) and they are decent guys as long as you treat them with honesty and respect.
I really enjoy your videos keep them coming brother 👍 🇬🇧
@@nigeh5326 Sonny Barger.
this is the most interesting channel ever i'm loving these stories
Hey thanks for watching and the kind comment! Have a great day!!
Love these stories!
Glad you like them!
That was another great ripping yarn mate! Thanks for the look through your life's glory hole. That was an excellent first person insight and beautifully narrated.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mate, you're a great story teller! 🥇
Thank you kindly!
After 15 years of working with super violent inpatient schizophrenics I also have hours and hours of stories to tell.
Start a channel.
Hey brother, keep em coming. Haters and trolls are losers!
@@bamahammer1372 Thanks Bama! Love the name.
Sweet been waiting for pt.7!
I’ve worked as a welder and concreter for several years in US, tough bunch of people. We may not “look” like much, but you probably don’t want to fight one … 👊
@@pAuL-nb2ud I agree. I always used to inwardly sigh when builders kicked off. I knew it was going to be a tough gig!
Love the two movie mentions - two of my favourites! I used to do the Black Widow tune when the local bikies rolled by back in the day (under my breath, it has to be said).
Good channel 👍🏻
'Be nice...until it's time not to be nice.'
Dalton, Cooler, Double Deuce
Love your videos bud, from a fan in Ireland ☘️👍🏻
Thanks bud!
These are great! Come um coming!
Funnily enough, the only place I’ve ever come across Hells Angels was at Rutland Water (Oakham) of all places! They sure do have a presence when they ride past!
Interesting stories and I don't think the biker scene in the UK is that much different than the U.S. You have to be careful if you are invited to a outlaw biker club's club house as if you aren't a patched member or prospect then you are expendable if you make a mistake like get in an argument with the first two. And unless you are a patch you are never really their friend as Gear Guy learned when he was trying to escort them outside during a fight.
I lived next door to a one percenter club for about ten years. One thing you have to always remember about these clubs is how much they love to talk Sh*t. Maybe one guy, one time had to wear piss pants but by and large prospects watch the bikes, get beer, sweep, pull weeds, take someone's old lady to the dentist, pull more weeds, etc. It also depends upon day of the week , how much dope or alcohol they have consumed and a host of other factors. Their 'rules' are like Calvin Ball. For instance the club next to me had a strict rule about no illegal BS around the clubhouse. They then started dealing crank with a woman who installed a train horn on her truck and set it off on me every time I worked in the garden. See how those rules change? Its funny people fear these people so much but I can honestly say I talked more Sh*t to this particular club than anyone in history and I can still walk by their clubhouse without fear . That's the other thing. Most clubs know not to start up with the general law abiding public. There are rules for member, other clubs and the general public all allegedly very distinct from one another.
It is ironic that there so many rules and the clubs are so hiearchical but it makes sense when you understand the origins of biker clubs. They were started after WW II by all the ex military who missed the comraderie and really coudn't fit in with milk-toast suburban society. So they just transferred all the military hiearchy and rules to their MC clubs.
the first thing anarchists do is usually form some sort of government, not too surprised about those structures in biker gangs
These stories are amazing!
Great interesting video
Very insightful, thanks for sharing
My pleasure!
The stories do sound unbelievable, to large part due to the amazing storytelling!
Thanks!
Great stories, bud!
Glad you like them!
all true.
20:49 fascinating video. It sounds like the bar Jake Drank in, in once were warriors.
@@noelht1 Not to dissimilar in clientele but imagine glitter wallpaper and a camp DJ thrown in..
No urine involved!! 🤣 I couldn't get over that image of piss-stained jeans!
Love real Great stories, Awsome channel, thanks for telling them!
Glad you like them!
I am guitar player former outlaw your assessment is spot on keep your mouth shut about things that don’t concern you and stay the outta our way because you just wouldn’t understand
Which chapter?
Gay
@@ashtralplane777 are you self identifying?
I’m a security guard and have been for 14 years. I found with biker clubs that I didn’t really have much to worry about. They seemed to be concerned to a point about they’re public image and as for they’re rules they weren’t even allowed outside the venue for a cigarette. Maybe I’m just from a different era.
Amusing, really, !
Really interesting, enjoying your channel/content, keep up the great work, very insightful. Some bikers in the pub in town i recently moved to, they were going on about patches, having to do stuff otherwise would lose patches etc (thought that was what primary school children did lol), walking around with jackets with sleaves missing etc, wannabe bikers etc, however it now makes sense, funnily enough one of the other punters did say, you don't want to get on wrong side of them, your video makes me understand a wee bit better now......thanks
I used to be in a three-piece 1%er club. And that's how 1% or clubs fight they rat pack. It's never one-on-one it's everybody against one. Some of those clubs old ladies actually wear property of patches. But rat packing is a common practice
Ooh I‘m so here for it!
Nice one. Sounds like you're telling the truth 👊🏼
In the early 90s I used to go to a metal pub in Kingston upon thames. Most fridays the Road Rats (London) would be there. I remember once walking past a club member who was standing at the side door, as i walked past he belched right in my face, i kept looking streight ahead and didnt stop. Not a snowballs chance in hell was i going to start something.
On the whole those guys were OK. I even beat one at an arcade game and didnt get any abuse for it.
A few years later i worked at a warehouse in Slough and one of the delivery drivers was a Hells Angel (Windsor). I got christmas card from him one year...." To Scott, merry Xmas from ..... and all my girlfriends".
Great times.
My friend was in a bike gang in Scotland but wanted to join a bigger rival club, he was allowed to join the club but only if he killed somebody from the gang he was with. He actually did the killing, but really was just set up, he got 15 years.
Wow. What a way to keep membership up! Not!!!
Living the dream…. 😂
I mean...good riddance? Exactly the type of guy who should be in prison.
I have a little club outside of Kansas City called the Double Deuce. It used to be a sweet deal.
Now, it's the kind of place that they sweep up the eyeballs after closing. (....) I need somebody to help me clean the place up…
@@Philo68 Well I have an achey back and bad eyesight but if the moneys real good..
@@thatgearguy 5,000 up front. 500 a night. Cash. We pay all medical expenses.
@@Philo68 really?
I never had any trouble with them at the biker bar I used to perform at as a musician.
And there you go, a lot to learn about women, as I’ve said before, no point in us normal men taking most women these days seriously, just build your wealth and your health, you get the bargaining power eventually
That sounds pretty negative. Maybe try being nice!
@@thatgearguy its reality… be nice of course… but be very selective when committing to women… you already noted that they love these nefarious gangs just for the thrill… before they are 25 they are also very nice, then they get influenced by this nasty “strong independent woman” narrative… that is for 95% of women…. After the age of 38 or so, I notice they are better again, after they find out they were fooled by feminism.
@@thatgearguycome on man. You know that never works. Women go for baddies.
I looked into getting some Turantulas b4. The males only live 2-3 years but the females it's like 30 years.
I knew a snake guy that had a room like that
Those builders sound imposing
Yes they probably spent most days doing hard, heavy, and dangerous physical work rather than just riding, smoking blumts, and drinking beer. Probably gave them an edge lol
Interesting!
Keep it up. We love them here in the States.
I believe you. There's no reason for you to get up on here and tell all these stories one after another like they didn't happen.
They're not outlandish or anything either they're fully reasonable. And you're a pretty no-nonsense kind of guy. 😊
We should meet one day.
Been on the circuit.
Official & dark.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Had some experience with rockers and bikers I was lucky at reading festival I walked past one took my eyes off him for a second and he jumped me. I thought by looking in front it would have dused anything I was wrong.
Really interesting, honest stuff. Subscribed. Can I ask what brand your shirts are? Look quality and exactly my style.
Thanks. Sure thing! They are Superdry.
You rarely come across the biker clubs in the uk unless you know where to look.....ive seen a few HAMC groups out on the roads......saw a huge group of Outlaws a few weeks ago on the M6.......it was obviously way cooler in the 60s, 70s in the USA.....i ride bikes and I know what the cubs were about and are now about.....and Im also a veteran and have a bit of respect for their life but its a big big commitment to be a patched member.....leave them to it....
Lol...I got thrown out of a pub on Weymouth quayside by a bunch of bikers. I went back in half hour later and everything was ok with them. Years later, I used to drink in a Dorset pub with a biker who told me he had two sawn off shotguns under his floorboards.
Seems like the GTA The Lost biker gang was quite accurate
Great stories!
Glad you like them!
Interesting. I’m a biker. I loathe those clubs
If they like a Military structure, why don't they sign up?
When you go through that you learn respect & work with real tough guys.
I don't envy your job dealing with immature civilians
Luckily I dont have to now. I switched over to defence sector many years ago. Now I am a Portfolio Director for a large small arms manufacturer.
Highly structured and organized clubs NOT gangs.
Cults can be dangerous! Hope nobody got seriously hurt an it was just all ego battles!!
Brother, if you haven’t already, please watch an Australian series called Mr Inbetween. You’ll love it guaranteed. All your stories are embodied within that series and the best part - there’s an actor that plays a supporting character called “Dave” a whom my friend, is a dead ringer for you - only Australian. Thank me later 👍🏽
I have seen it. Fantastic series!
@@thatgearguy awesome 🙌🏽 👍🏽👍🏽
Most 1%ers have their own club houses.
These guys had a club house. It was more like a small warehouse. They would generally go back there with any girls they picked up.
I've been around 3 ,
1% clubs they were similar but different.
Clubs have sergeant at arms
& presidents not masters
My old man was associated with the hells angels they wanted him to join but my mum said do that and you loose me and the kids cause some of stuff you have to do and fund yourself is a madness eg like take a trip to America and do this and that but all funded by yourself while your a prospect.
Yet another great story. have you ever thought about writing a book?
Maybe one day!
Subscribing 👍
Yeah most of the MC's that constantly tell society the are outlaws have more rules to follow than ordinary nobodies who live well inside the law! Among the rules if any member did not jump into the fight you described THEY would get an ass kicking, by everybody else in the club.
I bet there wasn't like garter snakes in that room.
They looked big and mean!
In sure with the way you looked and the job you worked they probably thought you wanted to join up😂
In the UK there are three types. MC are 1%er, MCC are affiliated and mainly social, then there are the socials. My experience of 1%ers for the most part is the majority lack integrity. Our squat was taken over by some in the late 80's, one stabbed my friends hand to the floor, for fun. Shall we say, they lack masculine grace... I'd rather ride with the socials than anyone else and bikers generally stick together anyway.
Wearing jeans that a bunch of men have peed on sounds a pretty childish and wimpy initiation process to me, and ganging up on one guy is not what I'd call manly. Not exactly nobility of spirit. All the same, very interesting to hear about such people - I just hope I never have the misfortune to meet them. I am very much enjoying your stories and reminiscences. Thank you.
@@SvetlanaVladimirova8590 yep the peepee on the jeans was a big nope from me!
Svetlana, they are not nice people. At a motorcycle rally once some slightly drunk guy dancing accidentally bumped into one of these MC members, and apologised, but they took him outside and beat him severely and his wife who asked them to stop. Real heroic men. Not. But like all bullies they thrive on intimidation.
@@rule3036 Yes, I fully agree. Such guys are not men at all in my opinion. They're not tough, they just play tough, and derive their so-called masculinity from being part of a pack. Jackals and hyenas all of them.
@@rule3036 like cops.
Rugby ball😂😂😂😂 uncle monty quote 😂😂😂
The Hells Angels started in my hometown San Bernardino california
They piss on the jeans. To make them rain and wind resistant.
Ewww!
I live in south jersey ten minutes outside of Philly. 1% bike clubs n gangs are all the same the ppl on top feed off the ppl on the bottom for money n power. We have a shit ton of both out here. Street gangs control more of the underworld n have way more numbers than bike gangs by far. If ur in an area that u have no choice that’s one thing but now ppl get rich & famous then join gangs. Lots of our entertainers n sports figures are known for becoming members of street gangs once they get on top. Which is ass backwards historically but that how popular the gang life or culture is now.
Biker gangs in South Africa are more chilled.... but when I see these videos of American bikers and their fat attitudes and this don't ever pass me attitudes is just stupid for me... I was a lone rider, superbike.. out at dawn and back by 9am...
12:54 that’s one HARD dude. F&CK that.
In the states it's biker club not biker gang.
Have a good mate , when we were in 20s we’d see his older brother , high up in the Rebels. Various parties their presence ,bikies , was pretty ominous. Bit of danger for sure. But my mate said , they’re all just a bunch of followers that like wearing a costume. With their patches and all that. We’d get massive bags of cheekies to sell ,
The Eccys went garbage after the bikies monopolised that. Ruined it.
I was in the local lock up once and the dude I was sharing with remembered me, via my mate etc anyway he was waiting to be transported to remand for this body found in the creek behind the local club house. Can’t remember if he got charged but I remember him as kind of mentally feeble, a bit of a follower maybe. Probably got some proper nasty psychos in those clubs followed by equally nasty weaker followers. Waste of space.
Isnt it sergeant-at-arms?
Might well be, I am no expert in military or biker rank!
Bikers are oftentimes just immature 17 year olds who never grow up, with emotional issues, "rebel" syndrome. as you mentioned, the irony of being anti-establihment, free riding rebels, while having rules like a cult. usually stupid rules about ranks, even worse than the system they don't want to be part of. how many kilometers you drove and how many biker meetings you went to, and then you are worth more. It's beyond ridiculous. To be a grown man and to obey these childish rules, it's humiliating.