@@LackingCloverGale was one of the top support players in OW for years on end, particularly on Ana. He’s well known in that space, never heard of Mace though
I cant watch people like that, who are miserable and complain the whole time... Like i dont care how good you are at a game, if you are always whining and blaming things, or you never have fun, the viewing experience isnt fun either
In fairness, they don't complain all the time. This is cherry picked reactions to what is, in reality, a pretty bullshit mechanic. No hate to either side, it's funny doing it, but it's for sure shitty being on the receving end too as there is truly nothing you can do once it's set up.
@@NoPancakeMixLeft that was such a weak call out from 2 players that should have been able to do that “play sup competently” “use support ult to counter dr strange ult”
@ Usually when a strange is running at your backline with no shield that telegraphs he is about to ult. Even then just the audio cue gives you enough time to ult reactively.
I love how gale plays the op no skill heroes in every game, acts like hes the best while barely doing anything and then blanes the non meta players while theyre carrying him...
Sorry to prove your wrong, but acc% doesn mean anything, dafran is always in 30% Also Gale is rank 1 in season 0 and even now in season 1 He plays with Mace or Solo And he is mvp quite often, if it takes no skill, you can try to play Punisher against every meta dive character there is, its miserable xd Im Also gm2 rn But I mean Bogur diffed aff
What I love about that adam warlock rez in 16:28 is that adam actually realized that not everybody was rezed. So him going down was the only way to get them back since the ults range is based on where he is and not where the ult was placed. They could've easily followed through instead of trying to stay up on high ground, blame the warlock tho its his fault for trying to rez the entire team
Youre right! Gale only respawned cause Adam jumped off. Magneto also fucking BALLED everybody there shortly after so dropping and scattering a bit would have helped
The only explanation I could probably think was that just everyone that was rezed was low so they didn't jump. I understand both points of view though, Adam wanted to get everyone but didn't communicate it until after the fact. Magneto could've bubbled or strange drop down to shield, while Adam used his E on the team since his shift was on cooldown. It was just hesitation due to low health that made them not want to jump.
@Nekomon. Yup you're right about them being low. When Warlock revives his teammates, they only come back with 50 percent of health, so it makes sense why they didn't push with Warlock. It's not like Mercy rez where they get rez with full health. Plus idk if Warlock used all his abilities to heal earlier but Warlock isn't good as a main healer unlike Luna or other healers. Since his healing output isn't as consistent as others. Still a good healer though.
I don’t mind Gale’s content, but it’s hilarious to see complaints about Strange being “boring” from someone who plays Punisher, Bucky, Hela and Hawkeye.
19:42 "WhaT iS thE pOInt of AdaM THese loBBies arE SO frEe?" Right after Strange walks right past his team, kills both supports, then kills Adam as soon as they try to spawn in. Where was he to protect his supports huh? Surely he wasn't seeing red and just trying to kill the whole team with both supports healing them right?
so from what ive gathered so far the tank and support mains are usually extremely chill and will even blame themselves when things go wrong but the dps mains only have others to blame constantly
Not every single one. For example there I have already played against some toxic Hulk players (why Hulk specifically idk). People with big egos just naturally gravitate towards DPS roles because why would they heal anyone ever?
6:20 both supports get jumped, stunned and killed at the start of the fight. 6:40 Enemy DPS who tunneled visioned: Why didn't the supports Ult that fight, they must be throwing they're useless. Chances are if a Ult wasn't used during a fight, they either: Got it during the fight, Died before they could use it or was in a position where it couldn't be used.
? if either one of them ult they both live. You literally cant die with mantis ult there and can only die with Luna ult if strange gets a 100% charged burst on you and your soul. I'd say the same thing gale did.
@@LazyBraxxas a luna main, yeah bro coulda caught that bogur went to ult it was pretty obvious. Even id usually catch that and im not a crazy player by any means. Either way though bro is getting rolled and then just blaming team. Support ults are huge counter play but that doesnt mean its only their job to counter
Tryna cover for the supports when they were clearly the weakest players on their team is wild. Being unable to consistently react to a dr.strange ult is far below standard for a gm support player. Supports do have agency and arent all just victims who have things done to them. Also luna claimed ping so unlucky ig.
As someone who plays Strange, I can say my ult has been canceled more times by a stun (such as Bucky) or a shield than a support ult. People who blame supports for not ulting while they had 3 player who could've stopped Bogur's ult besides them are the same people who will never upvote a good support who actually does those plays. Yes, both supports could've ulted, absolutely. But also Bucky could've hooked Strange out of it. Magneto could've bubble one support. And so on. And don’t come with "supports should've reacted". Every player in that team is GM or higher. Everyone should've reacted. And, on top, it was a great play by Bogur more than a failure on the enemy team.
@@ragingdemon1344 ? You don’t know what ur talking abt bruh. There is no animation time for Luna or Mantis ult so it’s very easy to reactively ult to strange ult. Other abilities in the game aren’t like that (especially one like bucky’s hook) and any player who’s decent knows that. You don’t go into a fight saying ur gonna cancel strange ult, it isn’t realistic. You just have a support press their ultimate button. Stop trying to defend bad players just bc you feel like supports get picked on too much.
9:50 okay I hate Gale now. He’s calling someone using an ult to get a kill boring and it’s not like it’s a one shot either. You literally have to go out of your way to be near the enemies and follow up on it
Tbf Strange's ult is extremely good given that it provides 2 hitboxes to shoot at for each player caught which means a charged dark magic explosion is enough to one shot any squishy caught in the ult.
I mean hes 100% correct there should be an area around the spawn where you cant do that. Or at least 3 exit doors. Cause not only can the enemy do that a greifer can do that shit to their own team if they want.
Ngl, i used to love watching gale streams. But i noticed his attitude changed after swapping to a dps main(back in ow1) and its a lot of complaining and negativity if his teams not winning or hes not carrying. I miss the og support gale that was fun and just trying to heal his homies up.
Gale isn't Gale Adelade, is he? If so, then that's just sad. The last time I saw him play was during somewhat early OW1 days when he used to be a pretty chill Ana, joking around during games, having fun, so I would have expected him to fin right in with people like bogur, flats, emongg etc. Seems he grew too much of an ego and turned into another Samito instead.
@@louist2881to be fair their strange couldve paid attention and blocked it but we aren’t talking about that are we 🤷🏽♀️ they were portaled and caught off guard and couldn’t ult it happens
I'm a very casual player, but it seems like a lot of things have to go right for the portal to block the spawn door and be useful. First of all, it's just that one map afaik, other maps have 3 exit doors. Second, you have to wipe most or all of the enemy team, and then you need the portal to be off of its insanely long 3 minute cooldown. To get that to line up at all is impressive imo, so no i don't think it needs to be nerfed by disallowing portals near spawn doors or adding a door to that map. Why take away such a creative use of that ability? It's out of the box thinking and incredibly cool and accurate to the character.
ive seen this portal work on klyntar, shibuya, and yggsgard, which is like half of the payload maps so far? at a higher level, progress on a payload map is measured not in meters, but how many "fights" you have to win in order to buy time to push the payload to the checkpoint. generally, checkpoints have about 2 (sometimes 3) good defensive positions where you can set up and stop the payload effectively, meaning if the enemy can win 2 fights and pass those 2 mini checkpoints then they will probably be able to capture the whole section of the map with no problem. the portal block essentially lets you extend 1 fight win into 2 fight wins, meaning you can capture an entire checkpoint by only winning the one fight. once the portal is placed there's no counterplay, so it pretty much guarantees that strange will have to win 1 to 2 less fights per round in order to full capture. second, fights are often decided with only a few kills. if you can get 2 kills without losing any players on your team, you can pretty much guarantee the rest of the enemy team is either going to wipe or run back to a really passive position. therefore, by using the portal off of just 2 picks you're already creating an extremely advantageous situation for yourself. you're forcing the 4v6 fight, because if they wait for the portal to close then you'll just full capture. so killing a few is basically as effective as killing everyone.
@@dalenu its a bit cheesy fs but that also put you down your strange, and is way more counterable than the salty streamer is acting. Strange deadass does a voiceline, and has a whole animation for making the portal, you can just stun him and put it on a 3 min timer. I cant say its perfectly balanced atm, but saying theres no counter play is just wrong. Imo it was executed so perfectly in this vid, that why even be mad? Take it on the chin, learn from the experience. And just respect that your opponent was creative with their abilities. And its not like its an easy play cause trust, ive seen a lot of stranges down in the elo tranches of plat fucking it up. I havent seen one good portal block in over 200 games so its so niche and requires such perfect timing for it to ever be meta
I get your point, and I have done this countless times too. But I admit it is an unfair mechanic because it literally stops everyone from playing the game. Not only the enemy team, also yours. There should be at least some counterplay to it, as with everything else in the game. Now, that doesn’t mean I like whining about it when it happens to me too. I just think something like that shouldn’t be such a free play.
BRO i think youre the reason every plat strange is doing the portal thing on spawns. Its kinda funny though cause they keep doing it wrong or at wrong spawns or times so its kinda just silly cause you can just go around it usually. And yet to see the play near OT but hey they trying
3 min cooldown on portal? Seems like a fair play to me. Conditions were just right that’s all. The whole team got wiped and trapped. Considering the circumstances and cooldown it’s jank, but not too unfair
@ they were gonna lose anyway fr. They were staggered. There was no winning. The portal didn’t lose them the match. Trust me. It was already lost. It was just anti climatic.
@ are you serious? the cart still had some distance and they had 5 ults. that was absolutely winnable for them. and no, they weren’t staggered. 5 of them died all at the same time while the psylocke was waiting to regroup.
@ all I hear is crying😂. 5 ults?? Go to 7:46 tell me how many ults they had😂 Then Go look at bogurs team and tell me how many ults they had. Bogurs team hand also 4-5 ults coming up. 7:57 with 1:30 left. Stop lying
@@Octovol i know right its basically skill issue like its not bogurs teams fault gale's team got wiped and now they got portal spawn blocked. its basically one of the great things this game could provide an opportunity for that specific situation.
So I guess it didn't happen to you yet, you would be the first ones to punch through your monitor if you had to spend 20s in spawn doing nothing. It's an oversight from the devs and will be patched soon
@zilliq-qz5uw why would i comment into this if it didnt happened to me? Im D1 and it happened a few times either to my team or the enemy team. Even strange gets banned from banning phase sometimes. Sucks to be the victim but we got team wipe and its just team diff. Youre probably like Gale who complains shit cuz theyre losing.
@@strayj- most cc in the game last for 1-2s but being cc for 20s is fair to you ? Also no need to get team wiped. Simply wait for somebody to die, spawn the portals and that player is CCed for 20s. No skill required. Not sure how you can think it's either intended or fair
I hate when dps players get stunned and go "protect me" like maybe you should have been positioned better against a strange to not be ulted in the group.
god i hate people with such a high ego who only blame and blame and blame even if they were also in the wrong, and what sucks is that its usually a dps player
I want them to buff captain america, he's so fun but his damage is so low. You could change his shield throw to be a duration that gives you ricochet throws kind of like the teamup or maybe build charges of ricochet throws up to cap. Or just simple number changes to make it so his damage means something. You could also make his personal shield regenerate faster so he doesnt have to spend as much time out of a fight.
No you’re just bad. Audio cues and using your brain. Usually more than 1 exit as well. If you don’t wanna die to stuff like that don’t go through main door ever
Gales the type of guy to not take accountability for anything and just push blame onto other people. Why watch a guy complain about everything? That shit is lame.
You can tell this vid left the target audience because 90% of the comments are taking shit way too seriously instead of the usual bingus shmungus curse of Ra stuff 😂
Gale complaining at 6:39 about his supports not ulting.... when they died from Strange Ult and literally couldn't do nothing. I swear every so often you get a DPS main who thinks he can carry and whenever things go wrong it is DEFINITELY not their fault.
16:29 bluds complaining about adam dropping but the bucky wont get revived if he doesnt. they all shouldve just dropped with him rather than whining about it lmao
That teleport tech is honestly so broken lol. Gale is right, that shit needs to get removed. You shouldn't be able to control where the initial portal goes.
@@strayj- respawn timer alone is plenty punishment. They shouldn't have to sit in any spawn any longer than that imo unless they're spawn camped due to skill issue.
Honestly if you can Luna Ult and not die for 20 seconds, I don't see an issue TPing spawn to also not die for 20 seconds. It has a longer CD than a Luna Ult and it takes more skill to be able to lock off a team than just ulting
Ngl getting salty about a mechanic that can be used as a tactical advantage is hilarious. Like it takes skill to pop those portals and leave no room for the enemy to get out. Bro just mad he got outplayed😂
Strange needs to be outside to start a portal, so that strat in general is just broken. Dt a game should enable a single ability to lock people up for a whole 20+ secs.
@Zabor-ny3co I am just speaking from TH-cam shorts where people just try to dash out of spawn to get to the fight..... right into a Strange portal. Maybe delay it for a second so they don't have much time to react?
@Zabor-ny3co While I am here, I want to learn every hero so I can be the Loki goat (Back when I played overwatch, I was a dirty Echo mosquito), anything niche or general tips about strange I should know?
@Myth-Enjoyer honestly, i find him a little boring compared to the other tanks so im not the best person to ask. Only reason i play him is for get the throphy
The Supports definitely made mistakes but it was pretty cringe to here him only complaining about the Supports when he himself got shit on, like again the Supports fucked up but unless theres a part left out (which there could be) sololy blaming your supports/team and taking no blame yourself when you get diffed is cringe.
Gale said we have to play range with this comp.... while facing strange and magneto? I'm only plat but i dont think playing range against strange and mag is a good idea...
It’s a three minute cooldown that almost never gets used in combat after round start. The reason it’s that long is to prevent infinite stalling via instant rollouts.
"There's no counterplay to Strange portal on spawn door" Uh, the counterplay is not to team wipe in the first place man. Idk what to tell you aside from that.
Bro I cannot stand the ego on Gale and Mace acting like they don't make mistakes. Like bro, you are not the perfect player.
I've never watched or heard of them before, but blaming literally everybody else except yourself is insanity
@@LackingCloverI watched dosui stream with mace and he was livid 😭 they rage pretty hard
i mean he is number 1 now for like the past week but i do agree he makes mistakes
@@LackingCloverGale was one of the top support players in OW for years on end, particularly on Ana. He’s well known in that space, never heard of Mace though
@@katam4400 I too would be embarrased if I was a Ex Pro OW player playing a game people are still learning
I cant watch people like that, who are miserable and complain the whole time... Like i dont care how good you are at a game, if you are always whining and blaming things, or you never have fun, the viewing experience isnt fun either
In fairness, they don't complain all the time. This is cherry picked reactions to what is, in reality, a pretty bullshit mechanic. No hate to either side, it's funny doing it, but it's for sure shitty being on the receving end too as there is truly nothing you can do once it's set up.
while true, you also have to consider the way they decide to lash out at their teammates, and sometimes ruthlessly, is really cringe....
@@NoPancakeMixLeft that was such a weak call out from 2 players that should have been able to do that “play sup competently” “use support ult to counter dr strange ult”
@@mickeyboy90 6:20 both supports get jumped, stunned and killed. they DO play support competently, otherwise they wouldn't be at that rank.
@ Usually when a strange is running at your backline with no shield that telegraphs he is about to ult. Even then just the audio cue gives you enough time to ult reactively.
I love how gale plays the op no skill heroes in every game, acts like hes the best while barely doing anything and then blanes the non meta players while theyre carrying him...
on god, 40% accuracy with hitscan and the worst dps in the match, the audacity to even open his mouth 😂
bro needs to hop back on support role atp lmfao. he’s too used to getting hard carried as ana
Sorry to prove your wrong, but acc% doesn mean anything, dafran is always in 30%
Also Gale is rank 1 in season 0 and even now in season 1
He plays with Mace or Solo
And he is mvp quite often, if it takes no skill, you can try to play Punisher against every meta dive character there is, its miserable xd
Im Also gm2 rn
But I mean Bogur diffed aff
@@randomt800kiddo2imagine caring about these stats. gale is annoying but hes very good at the game
@@vedhilgale has basically role swapped for years
What I love about that adam warlock rez in 16:28 is that adam actually realized that not everybody was rezed. So him going down was the only way to get them back since the ults range is based on where he is and not where the ult was placed. They could've easily followed through instead of trying to stay up on high ground, blame the warlock tho its his fault for trying to rez the entire team
Youre right! Gale only respawned cause Adam jumped off. Magneto also fucking BALLED everybody there shortly after so dropping and scattering a bit would have helped
Never knew it works like that.
The only explanation I could probably think was that just everyone that was rezed was low so they didn't jump. I understand both points of view though, Adam wanted to get everyone but didn't communicate it until after the fact. Magneto could've bubbled or strange drop down to shield, while Adam used his E on the team since his shift was on cooldown. It was just hesitation due to low health that made them not want to jump.
@Nekomon. Yup you're right about them being low. When Warlock revives his teammates, they only come back with 50 percent of health, so it makes sense why they didn't push with Warlock. It's not like Mercy rez where they get rez with full health. Plus idk if Warlock used all his abilities to heal earlier but Warlock isn't good as a main healer unlike Luna or other healers. Since his healing output isn't as consistent as others. Still a good healer though.
facts. he even says “for the rez bro” when the other dude freaks out as he drops
I don’t mind Gale’s content, but it’s hilarious to see complaints about Strange being “boring” from someone who plays Punisher, Bucky, Hela and Hawkeye.
bucky is hella fun imo but yeah punisher hela and hawkeye are hella boring
get my boy bucky outta here
Buckys fun, the rest just go on a point and click adventure
aye bucky is fun
Gale talks like a valley girl
lol
Gale and MACE both do 🤣
Valorant accent
A bit of valorant accent for sure
@@jadenthecommenterthe soy accent
19:42 "WhaT iS thE pOInt of AdaM THese loBBies arE SO frEe?" Right after Strange walks right past his team, kills both supports, then kills Adam as soon as they try to spawn in. Where was he to protect his supports huh? Surely he wasn't seeing red and just trying to kill the whole team with both supports healing them right?
so from what ive gathered so far the tank and support mains are usually extremely chill and will even blame themselves when things go wrong but the dps mains only have others to blame constantly
Not every single one. For example there I have already played against some toxic Hulk players (why Hulk specifically idk). People with big egos just naturally gravitate towards DPS roles because why would they heal anyone ever?
Main Character syndrome 😏
Average dps mains in every game tbh, I literally would get death threats from dps players as a healer in WoW and OW
@@Finn-wc8nq Oh wow, guess I'm fortunate.
yeah that's how it goes sometimes in games. even outside of these kind of games, have had it happen in monster hunter too 😅
i like how the other pov is hella salty and bogur and his team are jus chillin lol
“He’s like actually trolling our game” 😒🙄💅🏼
LMFAOOOO
6:20 both supports get jumped, stunned and killed at the start of the fight.
6:40 Enemy DPS who tunneled visioned: Why didn't the supports Ult that fight, they must be throwing they're useless.
Chances are if a Ult wasn't used during a fight, they either: Got it during the fight, Died before they could use it or was in a position where it couldn't be used.
? if either one of them ult they both live. You literally cant die with mantis ult there and can only die with Luna ult if strange gets a 100% charged burst on you and your soul. I'd say the same thing gale did.
@@LazyBraxxas a luna main, yeah bro coulda caught that bogur went to ult it was pretty obvious.
Even id usually catch that and im not a crazy player by any means.
Either way though bro is getting rolled and then just blaming team. Support ults are huge counter play but that doesnt mean its only their job to counter
Tryna cover for the supports when they were clearly the weakest players on their team is wild.
Being unable to consistently react to a dr.strange ult is far below standard for a gm support player.
Supports do have agency and arent all just victims who have things done to them.
Also luna claimed ping so unlucky ig.
As someone who plays Strange, I can say my ult has been canceled more times by a stun (such as Bucky) or a shield than a support ult.
People who blame supports for not ulting while they had 3 player who could've stopped Bogur's ult besides them are the same people who will never upvote a good support who actually does those plays.
Yes, both supports could've ulted, absolutely. But also Bucky could've hooked Strange out of it. Magneto could've bubble one support. And so on.
And don’t come with "supports should've reacted". Every player in that team is GM or higher. Everyone should've reacted.
And, on top, it was a great play by Bogur more than a failure on the enemy team.
@@ragingdemon1344 ? You don’t know what ur talking abt bruh. There is no animation time for Luna or Mantis ult so it’s very easy to reactively ult to strange ult. Other abilities in the game aren’t like that (especially one like bucky’s hook) and any player who’s decent knows that. You don’t go into a fight saying ur gonna cancel strange ult, it isn’t realistic. You just have a support press their ultimate button. Stop trying to defend bad players just bc you feel like supports get picked on too much.
i like how bogur and necros are mean to each other on overwatch but nice to each other on rivals.
ofc, overwatch gives people brain damage, now they finally having fun playing a game
jesus all gale does is complain and whine when he's losing 💀 it's so annoying and frustrating hearing players complain constantly like that
Then, close the video and don't also complain 💀
@ gale glazer replies a week later 💀 cant make ts up HAHAHA bro sucking him rn no bueno
Gale not gonna let you smash lil bro @@pachecosvky9737
Never even seen the namor player the whole video 💀 only his ult
9:50 okay I hate Gale now. He’s calling someone using an ult to get a kill boring and it’s not like it’s a one shot either. You literally have to go out of your way to be near the enemies and follow up on it
It’s even worse cuz he plays punisher who’s, at least to me, the most boring character in the game
@@Avevn1 TRUE Imagine complaining about boring when you only play meta left click bullshit
Tbf Strange's ult is extremely good given that it provides 2 hitboxes to shoot at for each player caught which means a charged dark magic explosion is enough to one shot any squishy caught in the ult.
@@Axzuel7878 ok and? The character gale plays is literally one of the most boring characters in the game he shouldn’t be talking about boring
@@Hoodini2253 Strawman.
love how salty they got at the spawn portal lmao
I mean hes 100% correct there should be an area around the spawn where you cant do that. Or at least 3 exit doors. Cause not only can the enemy do that a greifer can do that shit to their own team if they want.
A lot of maps do have 3 exit doors@@iamcool544
they had a strange too tho, could've portaled them out
@@Diinockaa are u brain dead?? u cant use portal in spawn mate
You can not use portal in your spawn. You need to leave the spawn to use the portal.@@Diinockaa
bruh why is mace always complaining LOL
90% of competitive video game players talk like that makes me ashamed to be a part of it
wasn’t mainly the DPS complaining? Mace was on tank right?! (maybe I’m missing something, just asking, and I’m around half of the video rn)
Pretty sure it was gale complaining, all the POVs were from his stream
Huge egos and can't contain them.
@@shaf2806 i dont watch/know them but it is normal to have an ego when you are top 50 ranked out of 20 million
Ngl, i used to love watching gale streams. But i noticed his attitude changed after swapping to a dps main(back in ow1) and its a lot of complaining and negativity if his teams not winning or hes not carrying. I miss the og support gale that was fun and just trying to heal his homies up.
these clips here make it look like he would be complaining even tho hes carrying as well tbh
If they dont want the strange portal on this map, they should have banned him
there’s better people to use your bans on in the current meta, that’d just be a waste.
Me when im dumb
A ban for something that is annoying 20 seconds, or a ban for something that helds the game hostage an entire match? Tough choice
@@lmAKittyyou are still able to ban Strange,Hawkeye,Hela and Luna. Just depends
The replies being “erm it’s only 20s it’s not worth” when it literally was a game winning play is telling
Gale isn't Gale Adelade, is he?
If so, then that's just sad. The last time I saw him play was during somewhat early OW1 days when he used to be a pretty chill Ana, joking around during games, having fun, so I would have expected him to fin right in with people like bogur, flats, emongg etc.
Seems he grew too much of an ego and turned into another Samito instead.
Samito has passion, this dude just has a very big ego
he’s been like this for years now. one of the most annoying fixtures of high elo ow.
Why was Gale so whiny lmao, how would your supports ult if they're stunned by strange ult
Tbf stranges ult takes about 1.5 seconds to actually stun you where they can press q
just ult b4 the strange ults??? its like 1.5s to react if ur in gm or eternity and cant do that ur simply boosted by playing luna/mantis
me when im dumb
Plenty of time to react to strange running towards them and casting the ultimate. They both blundered there
@@louist2881to be fair their strange couldve paid attention and blocked it but we aren’t talking about that are we 🤷🏽♀️ they were portaled and caught off guard and couldn’t ult it happens
"By the eye of ogagoato!" - a strange goat
i like to say "by the guy of guaca-cocoa"
edit: i just realized it was a GOAT strange joke OOPS
I'm a very casual player, but it seems like a lot of things have to go right for the portal to block the spawn door and be useful. First of all, it's just that one map afaik, other maps have 3 exit doors. Second, you have to wipe most or all of the enemy team, and then you need the portal to be off of its insanely long 3 minute cooldown. To get that to line up at all is impressive imo, so no i don't think it needs to be nerfed by disallowing portals near spawn doors or adding a door to that map. Why take away such a creative use of that ability? It's out of the box thinking and incredibly cool and accurate to the character.
ive seen this portal work on klyntar, shibuya, and yggsgard, which is like half of the payload maps so far? at a higher level, progress on a payload map is measured not in meters, but how many "fights" you have to win in order to buy time to push the payload to the checkpoint. generally, checkpoints have about 2 (sometimes 3) good defensive positions where you can set up and stop the payload effectively, meaning if the enemy can win 2 fights and pass those 2 mini checkpoints then they will probably be able to capture the whole section of the map with no problem. the portal block essentially lets you extend 1 fight win into 2 fight wins, meaning you can capture an entire checkpoint by only winning the one fight. once the portal is placed there's no counterplay, so it pretty much guarantees that strange will have to win 1 to 2 less fights per round in order to full capture.
second, fights are often decided with only a few kills. if you can get 2 kills without losing any players on your team, you can pretty much guarantee the rest of the enemy team is either going to wipe or run back to a really passive position. therefore, by using the portal off of just 2 picks you're already creating an extremely advantageous situation for yourself. you're forcing the 4v6 fight, because if they wait for the portal to close then you'll just full capture. so killing a few is basically as effective as killing everyone.
@@dalenu its a bit cheesy fs but that also put you down your strange, and is way more counterable than the salty streamer is acting.
Strange deadass does a voiceline, and has a whole animation for making the portal, you can just stun him and put it on a 3 min timer.
I cant say its perfectly balanced atm, but saying theres no counter play is just wrong.
Imo it was executed so perfectly in this vid, that why even be mad? Take it on the chin, learn from the experience. And just respect that your opponent was creative with their abilities.
And its not like its an easy play cause trust, ive seen a lot of stranges down in the elo tranches of plat fucking it up. I havent seen one good portal block in over 200 games so its so niche and requires such perfect timing for it to ever be meta
I get your point, and I have done this countless times too.
But I admit it is an unfair mechanic because it literally stops everyone from playing the game. Not only the enemy team, also yours.
There should be at least some counterplay to it, as with everything else in the game.
Now, that doesn’t mean I like whining about it when it happens to me too. I just think something like that shouldn’t be such a free play.
@@ragingdemon1344it’s on a 3 minute cooldown lmao. I think that’s fair enough
cant you just go strange yourself and portal out?
BRO i think youre the reason every plat strange is doing the portal thing on spawns.
Its kinda funny though cause they keep doing it wrong or at wrong spawns or times so its kinda just silly cause you can just go around it usually. And yet to see the play near OT but hey they trying
3 min cooldown on portal? Seems like a fair play to me. Conditions were just right that’s all. The whole team got wiped and trapped.
Considering the circumstances and cooldown it’s jank, but not too unfair
it’s completely unfair, they couldn’t recontest even if they wanted to. you literally can’t play the game for 18 seconds.
@ they were gonna lose anyway fr. They were staggered. There was no winning. The portal didn’t lose them the match. Trust me. It was already lost. It was just anti climatic.
@ are you serious? the cart still had some distance and they had 5 ults. that was absolutely winnable for them. and no, they weren’t staggered. 5 of them died all at the same time while the psylocke was waiting to regroup.
@ all I hear is crying😂. 5 ults?? Go to 7:46 tell me how many ults they had😂
Then Go look at bogurs team and tell me how many ults they had. Bogurs team hand also 4-5 ults coming up. 7:57 with 1:30 left.
Stop lying
@@1stNumberOne hey, that really hurt my feelings man! D:
yeah, just act ignorant and immature when you’re proven wrong lol
gale speaks like a valley girl who got rlly good at video games. no flame just a little amusing. gud vid burger
I’ve been noticing everyone has seemed a lot happier and has been enjoying themselves way more in this game than Overwatch
because its new and fresh, just give it time and it will be the same
I hope they never fix the portal spawn blocking tech.
If they fix that they'd have to 'fix' so many other abilities as well. These people are just salty they don't always hold all the cards.
@@Octovol i know right its basically skill issue like its not bogurs teams fault gale's team got wiped and now they got portal spawn blocked. its basically one of the great things this game could provide an opportunity for that specific situation.
So I guess it didn't happen to you yet, you would be the first ones to punch through your monitor if you had to spend 20s in spawn doing nothing. It's an oversight from the devs and will be patched soon
@zilliq-qz5uw why would i comment into this if it didnt happened to me? Im D1 and it happened a few times either to my team or the enemy team. Even strange gets banned from banning phase sometimes. Sucks to be the victim but we got team wipe and its just team diff. Youre probably like Gale who complains shit cuz theyre losing.
@@strayj- most cc in the game last for 1-2s but being cc for 20s is fair to you ? Also no need to get team wiped. Simply wait for somebody to die, spawn the portals and that player is CCed for 20s. No skill required. Not sure how you can think it's either intended or fair
I hate when dps players get stunned and go "protect me" like maybe you should have been positioned better against a strange to not be ulted in the group.
19:55 blames Warlock still because he dropped after getting a 5 Person revive lol
Gale complaining because he doesn't have his wintrade buddy lol
11:44 he said "I baited stuns" like it was a worthy trade lol
I was gonna say something about how he was being sarcastic and obviously knew it was a bad trade, but someone beat me to it.
Bro can’t sense sarcasm
@@freyaow yh?
all these comments are just shitting on gale and it’s really funny
Man I hope strange doesn’t get nerfed he makes the game so fun for me idk why
why would he get nerfed. nothing op about him
You can spot a basement goblin if they use words like "boring" or "weird" talking about game
god i hate people with such a high ego who only blame and blame and blame even if they were also in the wrong, and what sucks is that its usually a dps player
“i baited stuns” gonna start using that i laughed out loud
I want them to buff captain america, he's so fun but his damage is so low. You could change his shield throw to be a duration that gives you ricochet throws kind of like the teamup or maybe build charges of ricochet throws up to cap. Or just simple number changes to make it so his damage means something.
You could also make his personal shield regenerate faster so he doesnt have to spend as much time out of a fight.
The portal leading to spawn had me rolling.
I love they will never patch out TP'ing the enemy spawn. It's too good a mechanic and it's too situational to be changed.
Is MACE the same mace2theface from ow?
I do see them nerfing the portal door trap in the future.
Possibly by making a set zone of not being able to place a portal X meters near the doors.
No you’re just bad. Audio cues and using your brain. Usually more than 1 exit as well. If you don’t wanna die to stuff like that don’t go through main door ever
this guy really does make streamers RAGE with his Doctor Strange!
Also if thor ultimate isnt cc immune and takes so long to do the big damage, why are mantis and luna snow ult cc immune.
mantis ult can be cancelled by hulk exile and also killed by one shots like iron man ult
Gales the type of guy to not take accountability for anything and just push blame onto other people. Why watch a guy complain about everything? That shit is lame.
You can tell this vid left the target audience because 90% of the comments are taking shit way too seriously instead of the usual bingus shmungus curse of Ra stuff 😂
Gale complaining at 6:39 about his supports not ulting.... when they died from Strange Ult and literally couldn't do nothing. I swear every so often you get a DPS main who thinks he can carry and whenever things go wrong it is DEFINITELY not their fault.
they can ultimately before strange ults
@@polarpob7858 ah yes, ult before strange ult and then just get my ult cancelled, why didnt i think of that...
@@BobOrKlaus luna snow is cc immune in ult?
@@BobOrKlausyou’re low elo
That's the whole point they shouldn't be dying to strange ult when they have support ult up. Plenty of time to react to it, especially at that level
I started learning strange and he's pretty fun when you learn his whip combos
The only thing I can agree with is the blocking spawn with portals
16:29 bluds complaining about adam dropping but the bucky wont get revived if he doesnt. they all shouldve just dropped with him rather than whining about it lmao
he might just be the strange goat
Bro blamed it on Adam warlock 😭
That teleport tech is honestly so broken lol. Gale is right, that shit needs to get removed. You shouldn't be able to control where the initial portal goes.
5:47 im confused can someone explain what the point of this portal was? to block the enemy team exit?
it was a bad play tbh
He blocked off the only two entrances to that area, yeah. They couldn't leave or get teammates back in.
only valid thing is the spawn portal thing but oh my god that guy complaining hurts my brain
nope the portal is perfectly fine as it is. the cooldown is already long so its their fault they got teamwiped basically skill issue
@@strayj- being locked away from the objective for 30s is so balanced ur right my bad
@@strayj- respawn timer alone is plenty punishment. They shouldn't have to sit in any spawn any longer than that imo unless they're spawn camped due to skill issue.
Honestly if you can Luna Ult and not die for 20 seconds, I don't see an issue TPing spawn to also not die for 20 seconds. It has a longer CD than a Luna Ult and it takes more skill to be able to lock off a team than just ulting
Ngl getting salty about a mechanic that can be used as a tactical advantage is hilarious. Like it takes skill to pop those portals and leave no room for the enemy to get out. Bro just mad he got outplayed😂
I’d love to know how punisher pov in beginning of video makes his game look like that sheesh it’s clear
They need to never nerf anyone 😂
Except Hulk
@@mh-9973bruh
Tbh the spawn portal is kinda uncounterable sadly but it’s also on a heft cooldown lol
the strange goat returns
necros farming clips the whole game
If I were given a nickel after every time gale complains about something, I’d be a millionaire.
Can’t strange counter the portal play with his own portal unless he can’t portal in spawn i haven’t tried just wondering
Strange needs to be outside to start a portal, so that strat in general is just broken. Dt a game should enable a single ability to lock people up for a whole 20+ secs.
honest question: cant you just go strange yourself and portal out of spawn?
You cant use strange portals in the spawn room
this match is so stacked its funny
So, question: do you have any advice for make Strange's throphy? Getting a KO with the portal
Can't you just make people fall of the map with it? I don't play strange so I have no idk if that would count.
@Myth-Enjoyer they have to WALK into it and i doubt anyone trust a Strange thats not on their team
@Zabor-ny3co I am just speaking from TH-cam shorts where people just try to dash out of spawn to get to the fight..... right into a Strange portal. Maybe delay it for a second so they don't have much time to react?
@Zabor-ny3co While I am here, I want to learn every hero so I can be the Loki goat (Back when I played overwatch, I was a dirty Echo mosquito), anything niche or general tips about strange I should know?
@Myth-Enjoyer honestly, i find him a little boring compared to the other tanks so im not the best person to ask.
Only reason i play him is for get the throphy
driftveil battle music is elite
The Supports definitely made mistakes but it was pretty cringe to here him only complaining about the Supports when he himself got shit on, like again the Supports fucked up but unless theres a part left out (which there could be) sololy blaming your supports/team and taking no blame yourself when you get diffed is cringe.
"Lunas just trolling" bro sounds sus
that portal trick needs to be patched asap
Gale said we have to play range with this comp.... while facing strange and magneto? I'm only plat but i dont think playing range against strange and mag is a good idea...
I’m trying my best to follow in Bogurs footsteps 😅
Can’t you have someone swap to strange and portal out?
more of this, feels like i am learning a ton :)
The counter play is to not die actually
Does bogur not cancel Strange's reload for a reason? I thought you should always do that
He really is the strange goat
6:42 oh no, not bro getting diffed and then blaming supports 😂
its a 3 minute cooldown it absolutely should be able to do that
It’s a three minute cooldown that almost never gets used in combat after round start. The reason it’s that long is to prevent infinite stalling via instant rollouts.
Why does he always use the portal next to him?
So that an enemy Strange doesn't put his own portal in front of his portal. With it being next to him, it's easier to tell the difference.
"There's no counterplay to Strange portal on spawn door" Uh, the counterplay is not to team wipe in the first place man. Idk what to tell you aside from that.
just laughing at the folks who do nothing but blame others is kinda all you can do haha
Perfect papyrus ost 😂
Try not to cry challenge: Overwatch Player Edition!
Idk shit about these high elo gameplays but jesus the whining from Gale is crazy bro. Like just shifting blames on everyone
Why is necros playing wolverine doesn't he clown on it
Nope, vid and breakdown from him on the way
Can’t they use their own strange to portal out ?
the sheer estrogen in their voices
lol I could be wrong but I think MACE is my Val coach
14:04 feels like i had a schizo episode
Music choice on point
You and Necros should clickbait eachother i actually think you guys would blow up as EU’s best duo Strange Goat and Sticky Guy
Master class portal trapping them in spawn
Said gotta play range while using punisher who has a shotgun that can one shot people.
Well done bonger
He does whinge a bit but he isn't wrong 8:18
nothing they could do
Hahaha what a hard Strange diff!
good video came out 5 minutes ago I already watched all 20 mins