People say its boring because its not flashy like MJ, Magic, Kobe, or Iverson, but his game is so cerebral. Its like he's playing the game from a bird's eye view. Half of the entertainment is seeing the impact he has on the opposing players, and you can see the energy it gives the Nuggets. Honestly, when a team is having success guarding him (which is rare), it starts to look more like a chess match, and its actually entertaining to watch....it usually requires Jokic and the Nuggets to dig deep and turn it into a test of wills.
I've been a major MJ fan since he played, so dominant on offense and defense. While Jokic doesn't have the athletic ability for defense to that degree, he also has the ability to make the players around him greater, not MJ's focus. He's never played with an all star, MJ had Pippen. MJ stands alone also with the 6 championships and MVPs galore, but Jokic's dominance of the league is right up there.
This is basically my story and it's very common at this point. I was a huge MJ fan, then Kobe, then basically completely tuned out. I found some Jokic highlights like 3 years ago, and instantly knew how special he was. Been back watching ever since. After he's done I might go right back to tuned out. 😊
Just finished the video and wanted to say, you're the FIRST creator I've seen really "understand" niche parts of Jokic game that really separate him and what makes him so elite. I also think as a passer/playmaker, its not as close as "splitting hairs" implies others, like lebron, are to him as a playmaker. I think specifically his ability, from the elbow in, to manipulate D and generate layups in crazy tight windows, consistently on most possessions is something nobody has come close to.
I’m only 57 but have also been watching since the 1980s. I absolutely love Jokic and his game is absolutely perfect for the composition of the league today but the best ever? Hell no. MJ was so incredible on both sides of the ball. I get it, it’s always fun to compare players and generations. Jokic will go down as an all-time great, but he will never and can never be considered “the best basketball player ever”. His game works in this 2025 niche, virtually void of proper big man defenders. I’m confident that if he was playing in the 80s when incredible big men were patrolling the paint that he would adjust and still be an all time great. However, Jokic could never stop any of them. I just can’t see how he could or would leverage his skill set and available tools to thrive on both ends of the court when his position was king. Basketball is 50% offensive and 50% defence. An “all time great” is just that. Put MJ into any era; 50s - 2020s, allow him to adjust and he would still find a way to be an all time great on any part of the floor. MJ is until now the greatest basketball player to ever do it. It’s not even close.
I'm 61, French and I watched European's League too since more than 40 years, and I agree... He's the best ever... Never seen such skills and competences, such a team's mentality and such a IQ before, and I was a Mj Fan.. ❤
Lebron's supposedly average teams were in a weak east and he didn't win any chips without teams loaded with all stars. It's Jokic who took an average team of no all stars in a strong west to a championship - not nearly but actually. What you say separates Lebron from Steph and Jokic is in actual factual reality what separates Jokic from Lebron and Steph. You're under selling Jokic with the inaccurate/misrepresentative point you made. Jokic is a far greater floor raiser than Lebron
Yea it was pretty good and have seen a few. I think to be a top 5 player you need at least 2 championships and really 3. Championships matter. I feel good if Jokic stay healthy and plays for 10 years (wishful thinking) he will get a few more Championships. He's like Brady. His game will just be there.
I find this relentless arguing on Jokic being weak in defence superficial and pointless. Everything is in +/- measure and him being clear leader puts end to that discussion. Complaining further only means that his top score in +/- somehow isn't enough.
You can put Jokic on plenty of teams that Lebron choked on and there would be a ring. Let's not hold him in such high esteem. Also, the numbers say Jokic is better than Jordan because he is better than Jordan.
😂😂 Its so hilarious watching you people switch up instantly when the goat discussion becomes about your favorite player while arguing in insanely bad faith and bias when its about a player you clearly dislike. No one can take shit like that seriously its actually pathetic. Jokic will face the exact same criteria he is nowhere near becoming the GOAT. Remember Jordan is 6-0 good luck
Top 5 is also tough until he wins more chips. Its kind of odd to me how people instantly switch up in greatest of all time discussions when the player isnt someone they actively hate on. Suddenly all the criteria from before dont matter and suddenly context matters when before context was completely ignored
I agree 101%!! but when you comparing things I cringe when I hear LePuff in any of top 3 group !! this clown can be there before Mamba, Bird, Kareem whatever stats said !!!
Thats because you dislike him and are biased. This makes this whole Jokic goat conversation ridicilous you people instantly switch up the criteria from before suddenly doesnt matter. Context suddenly matters but before it didnt matter because you actively hated on the player being discussed 😂 its too funny
Best ever? He never had to play against previous all time great players AND teams in their prime. They never had to play against someone like Jokic. No center ever before had to play against player in body of center and mindset of play. With elite shooter ability.
I never had the chance to ride a dinosaur... Your argument revolves around a time traveling machine. In order to fulfill those pleas you have, a modern basketball player would need a time traveling machine to accomplish those woes of yours.... LeBron could finally travel back and make MJ cry. Right!? Jokić has to prove himself twice over, and he will...that is the Serbian heart...
@markopecinovic4475 he's correct though. Jokic is an astonishingly great player, but he has incredible luck. (Playing against no real centers, no all time great in their prime, all teams he went against in his championship run injured.)
@@markopecinovic4475 Read it again. I was addressing comments Jokic never had to play previous all time great centers. My reply is none of them had to play against center like Jokic either...
Sorry, you are missing defense and transition where Jokic stinks. There is so much room under the basket and so little defensive help available/allowed that a slow player with good finishing skills (floaters), and a big butt to shove people out of the way that a slow player that can't jump can look good.
Jokic is great in transition, especially when it comes to playmaking. The rest of your comment is typical time machine basketball nonsense. Most likely a hypocritical Bronsexual who says MJ doesn't count because he played "weak comp" but Jokic doesn't count because he didn't play in the 90's 😂
This is one of the greatest Jokic’s breakdown videos ever. Coming from a Nuggets fan.
@@NBAalaChilena my guy! I highly appreciate you!
People say its boring because its not flashy like MJ, Magic, Kobe, or Iverson, but his game is so cerebral. Its like he's playing the game from a bird's eye view. Half of the entertainment is seeing the impact he has on the opposing players, and you can see the energy it gives the Nuggets. Honestly, when a team is having success guarding him (which is rare), it starts to look more like a chess match, and its actually entertaining to watch....it usually requires Jokic and the Nuggets to dig deep and turn it into a test of wills.
I've been a major MJ fan since he played, so dominant on offense and defense. While Jokic doesn't have the athletic ability for defense to that degree, he also has the ability to make the players around him greater, not MJ's focus. He's never played with an all star, MJ had Pippen. MJ stands alone also with the 6 championships and MVPs galore, but Jokic's dominance of the league is right up there.
This is basically my story and it's very common at this point. I was a huge MJ fan, then Kobe, then basically completely tuned out. I found some Jokic highlights like 3 years ago, and instantly knew how special he was. Been back watching ever since. After he's done I might go right back to tuned out. 😊
I’m convinced. Definitely top three. Great analysis.
Just finished the video and wanted to say, you're the FIRST creator I've seen really "understand" niche parts of Jokic game that really separate him and what makes him so elite. I also think as a passer/playmaker, its not as close as "splitting hairs" implies others, like lebron, are to him as a playmaker. I think specifically his ability, from the elbow in, to manipulate D and generate layups in crazy tight windows, consistently on most possessions is something nobody has come close to.
I definitely agree that Jokic has an argument for a top 3 peak ever
JOKIC IS ALREADY IMO THE BEST CENTER EVER 💯
Ngl Jokic might be the GOAT....this is crazy
He is not yet but he got at least 5 more years of prime years to achieve it
Them old heads ain’t gonna like this one😂😂
‘But he isn’t constantly leaking to journalists about how early he gets to the gym every day, how can he be the best!’
Old heads actually likes Jokic's basektball believe it or not
@@dalebrown325 He cant leak that cause he doesnt ;)
@IvanS-n5f And how the f*** would you know?
I’m an old head and I love Jokic
I think Yokic is by far the most talented player I’ve ever seen and I’m 77 and watched since the eighties
77 and watching Skal Hoops, that’s love!
I’m only 57 but have also been watching since the 1980s. I absolutely love Jokic and his game is absolutely perfect for the composition of the league today but the best ever? Hell no. MJ was so incredible on both sides of the ball.
I get it, it’s always fun to compare players and generations. Jokic will go down as an all-time great, but he will never and can never be considered “the best basketball player ever”. His game works in this 2025 niche, virtually void of proper big man defenders. I’m confident that if he was playing in the 80s when incredible big men were patrolling the paint that he would adjust and still be an all time great.
However, Jokic could never stop any of them. I just can’t see how he could or would leverage his skill set and available tools to thrive on both ends of the court when his position was king. Basketball is 50% offensive and 50% defence. An “all time great” is just that.
Put MJ into any era; 50s - 2020s, allow him to adjust and he would still find a way to be an all time great on any part of the floor. MJ is until now the greatest basketball player to ever do it. It’s not even close.
I'm 61, French and I watched European's League too since more than 40 years, and I agree... He's the best ever... Never seen such skills and competences, such a team's mentality and such a IQ before, and I was a Mj Fan.. ❤
Smartest player ever. Which of course doesnt put him at all far from being best. He is top 3. But best offensive player ever. 100% 😊
@@Arkadius87 agree 100%
Good job. Great analysis. Pozdrav iz Srbije.
@@Petroovic thank you!
when his career is done, he will be called the goat by most people
If he wins multiple chips sure without failing but even still i doubt it. He will be faced with the same thing as Lebron James
@@deathitself6985 sure, but i feel he's going to win more, but if not he wont be considered the goat
Jokic is gonna end up all time higher than Bron, people just hate that fact so it wont be consensus for another 8 years.
You forgot to mention that he's shooting almost 50% from 3 this year on pretty decent volume - which is just outrageously insane.
Well done!
thank you!
Imo he’s In contention for the greatest offensive peek ever
@ agree, I personally have him as the offensive GOAT, but he’s definitely in that tier with MJ, LBJ, Curry, & Magic.
Imagism how bloody Jokic arms would have been if he played in the 80s
This the one bro 🔥
❤❤❤ наравно да јесте 🤗🤗🤗
Great stuff gramps!
Wow this was STRONG 💪
Lebron's supposedly average teams were in a weak east and he didn't win any chips without teams loaded with all stars. It's Jokic who took an average team of no all stars in a strong west to a championship - not nearly but actually. What you say separates Lebron from Steph and Jokic is in actual factual reality what separates Jokic from Lebron and Steph. You're under selling Jokic with the inaccurate/misrepresentative point you made. Jokic is a far greater floor raiser than Lebron
@@-ac-8296 I think they are all great floor raisers. I would have LBJ & Jokic as the GOAT floor raisers. Splitting hairs
Jokić is best floor raiser ever.
Jokic has a long way to go my guy as much as people rag on Lebron dont start switching up the criteria with the next candidate.
Is he?
Probably yes!
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Yea it was pretty good and have seen a few. I think to be a top 5 player you need at least 2 championships and really 3. Championships matter. I feel good if Jokic stay healthy and plays for 10 years (wishful thinking) he will get a few more Championships. He's like Brady. His game will just be there.
Yes.
GOATic 15
You basically remade jxmy high rollers video step for step
Yep unless he has some major fall off as he ages he will be top 3 at least.
offensive GOAT; 3rd best all time imho
@@lclee1972 agreed
I find this relentless arguing on Jokic being weak in defence superficial and pointless. Everything is in +/- measure and him being clear leader puts end to that discussion. Complaining further only means that his top score in +/- somehow isn't enough.
Arenas will not like this
LeBum is average defender at best lol
Its hard to take these kind of arguments seriously when you instantly out your bias and dislike for the player discussed.
You can put Jokic on plenty of teams that Lebron choked on and there would be a ring. Let's not hold him in such high esteem. Also, the numbers say Jokic is better than Jordan because he is better than Jordan.
Hes legitimately only winning in 2011. Kd would probably get 50+ on him every game.
😂😂 Its so hilarious watching you people switch up instantly when the goat discussion becomes about your favorite player while arguing in insanely bad faith and bias when its about a player you clearly dislike.
No one can take shit like that seriously its actually pathetic.
Jokic will face the exact same criteria he is nowhere near becoming the GOAT. Remember Jordan is 6-0 good luck
From when Lebron is better floor raiser than Jokić ?
@@saptashwapal4400 splitting hairs. I’d take LBJ slightly. 2018 Bron was just different.
Haters don't believe in math!😅
Jokic is top 5, maybe top 3. But MJ is the GOAT. Sorry but that's just true
I say this as a Denver native and a fan since they joined the NBA
Top 5 is also tough until he wins more chips. Its kind of odd to me how people instantly switch up in greatest of all time discussions when the player isnt someone they actively hate on.
Suddenly all the criteria from before dont matter and suddenly context matters when before context was completely ignored
Jokic actually has 100 times more crazy passes then this which you show up.
@@fadfsdfasfsa oh I know lol. These are all from this year only
I agree 101%!! but when you comparing things I cringe when I hear LePuff in any of top 3 group !! this clown can be there before Mamba, Bird, Kareem whatever stats said !!!
Thats because you dislike him and are biased. This makes this whole Jokic goat conversation ridicilous you people instantly switch up the criteria from before suddenly doesnt matter. Context suddenly matters but before it didnt matter because you actively hated on the player being discussed 😂 its too funny
Best ever? He never had to play against previous all time great players AND teams in their prime. They never had to play against someone like Jokic. No center ever before had to play against player in body of center and mindset of play. With elite shooter ability.
I never had the chance to ride a dinosaur...
Your argument revolves around a time traveling machine. In order to fulfill those pleas you have, a modern basketball player would need a time traveling machine to accomplish those woes of yours....
LeBron could finally travel back and make MJ cry. Right!?
Jokić has to prove himself twice over, and he will...that is the Serbian heart...
@markopecinovic4475 he's correct though. Jokic is an astonishingly great player, but he has incredible luck. (Playing against no real centers, no all time great in their prime, all teams he went against in his championship run injured.)
@@markopecinovic4475 Read it again. I was addressing comments Jokic never had to play previous all time great centers. My reply is none of them had to play against center like Jokic either...
Sorry, you are missing defense and transition where Jokic stinks. There is so much room under the basket and so little defensive help available/allowed that a slow player with good finishing skills (floaters), and a big butt to shove people out of the way that a slow player that can't jump can look good.
Jokic is great in transition, especially when it comes to playmaking. The rest of your comment is typical time machine basketball nonsense. Most likely a hypocritical Bronsexual who says MJ doesn't count because he played "weak comp" but Jokic doesn't count because he didn't play in the 90's 😂
Gil doesn´t like this video... 🤣
No.
I love Jokic, a lot, but - No.
No he’s not
Great Analysis - LeBron James Is Still The GOAT
Agreed