i never realised people cared this much abt this sort of stuff. i absolutely loved hearing u nerd out (/pos) abt all the teams and ur knowledge is, as always, super impressive. im now far more invested in the league pro scene whether i want to be or not
But... Vladi already played this year xD And he looked good! The range of were KC can end is huge and dependent on two points. How good is Caliste gonna be? How good is Yike gonna be? Yike looked the best when G2 revolved around him and goddamn, he WAS the best jungler in EU. In 2024 G2 wanted another playstyle, that's why Yike didn't look that impressing this year... But 2023 he was really insane, especially when he needed to be the main carry. He had lots of 1 vs 9 games actually while BB wasn't the insane toplaner he is right now and while Caps was running down most games. People tend to forget this a lot and I don't know how??? But he needs to be the main voice and the main character of this team and then KC can be really strong and I think they can surprise everyone. Targamas is a big questionmark tho.
Vladi looked ok, didn't seem like he could hold up just yet I think Caliste will be probably lower end of top half for his first split I think yike will probably struggle, he looked good in 2023 for sure, but an entire year of being a lot more underwhelming definitely adds question marks
@PsychopathicPoroClips Vladi looked good for a rookie I would say, we had quite a lot worse rookies last year. He definitely has potential. I disagree with Yike being a lot more underwhelming 2024 tho. Apart from his MSI being insane where he gapped Oner in the first T1 series + gapping Tian... The only ACTUALLY underwhelming split was summer where G2 as a whole was underwhelming... And Yike didn't get to play OP Lillia and OP Viego - which is highly questionable drafting. But yes, Yike could actually struggle a bit... But if he can grow with this... KC is gonna be dangerous.
@@PsychopathicPoroClips even showmaker said he was rly good, he rly made an impression on him. but to you (who didnt remember that he even played last year) it seems that he was bottom tier. go rewatch the games then, he was more than decent. their weak points were closer and targamas in summer playoffs and even then they still made top 4 and 1 game away from qual to season finals.
u literally put the team that went 4th last split 9th after they got a considerable upgrade ? the only other team that got as big of an upgrade is mad (arguably fnc too). g2 can scale but it's not an upgrade, sk heretics vit bds downgrade or at least equivalent. rogue is a bit of a question mark seeing how none of their players have performed recently (except adam which didnt perform well in the very recent nno cup).
Vladi already played in summer and looked like a top 5 mid imo Overall I think you heavily underrate the KC team, their laners and jg are all good, top 4 team for me
extremely funny. 🤣🤣, So Yike with 'no winning lanes' is now magically shit. Vladi who already played last year gapped almost all mids (including ROY Jackies) he faced except nuc caps huma as a rookie cant progress but others can. Canna... dont even need to add something on your shit take. Caliste Targamas duo just played 2 days ago vs Koi and go watch it for yourself.... nevermind. its funny how closer who all were saying shit of him las year now he is out of KC Magically is good now. Can't Wait for LEC to begin
everyone laughed at kc for having closer subbing for bo and he still played like shit but now that he's not on kc he's the best fucking jungler in the world. also if caliste was going to g2 he'd also be the best in the world no doubt, in kc he's overrated and top 9.
Have You watched the show match between KOI and KC this Weekend and if so what are your conclusions on both these roasters? (even tho some players were missing)
@@PsychopathicPoroClips It was entertaining at the very least, but I'm not a great league analyst so I can't really speak for the quality. But imo KC showed some good things and the community seemed satisfied with the performance even tho they went 0-2, KOI looked in good shape and JJP seemed to clic well with the rest of the gang.
BB is definitely one of the top5 toplaners, Zeus and bin are top2, kiin, bb and 369 are top5 (in particular order), since breath and Doran got so hard gapped by kiin and bb and 369 didn’t performed as good as he did in 2023.
@ did you watched the video? These two are what the video suggests? And also, if you can’t go to international event for the whole year, unless you preformed like ruler, how do we know if you will fumble on the stage? Still, you you wanna start a conversation with disrespectful troll messages, I should not reply you
@@PsychopathicPoroClips I mean it's your Tierlist tho idk i Think Canna Yike Vladi are all really insane players and Caliste is the Bright star, so idk :) i think i really see them Top5. Still a good video
There's three rosters I cannot for the life of me place or put faith in because they have some really weird holes in their rosters imo: VIT, BDS and GX. VIT because I am not really convinced by their rookies from what little I've seen of them and I feel like the whole roster depends on Lyncas and Hilly finding the synergy they lacked. BDS because I feel like they doubled down on a weakness they had in Summer. They struggled because Sheo couldn't adapt to Zyra/Brand meta and play them optimally. Now they have 113 who has no problem playing carries but with jungle usually not being the main carry role, I feel like BDS could have a real carry problem if the meta locks on Sejuani/Maokai/Skarner. GX have a great roster on paper, but holy hell, I DO NOT TRUST THEIR MANAGEMENT. What little I've heard of it, it's an absolute nightmare. They've had decent rosters on paper before who always looked fairly bad in the end, so I don't trust them to get the maximum out of Noah and the rest of their players Other than that, kind of a tossup in the middle of the pack. Sad to see Finn out, but hyped for RGE nonetheless as an Adam/Malrang/Execute fan and I cannot wait to see how FNC choke this year
All valid criticisms, although I try not to consider management unless it's a brutally obvious thing, because it's impossible for me to know exactly what's happening behind the scenes
The problem for vetheo was that he was an pick player, playing leblanc and zoe. And than put of nowhere they change the dude and let him play other stuff. I think it‘s good that he goes down a league and maybe next year can come back with a reset mindset. I still believe he can become a top 3 midlaner in LEC!
"They" didn't change anything, if you listen to what he's said himself, he actively chose to stagnate because he thinks his current playstyle is good enough
Personally I think SK is not that bad tho. I mean toplane will be probably worse in 2025 + JNX was gapping every new toplaner. Isma will be still the worst part of roster, Reeker should be okay imo, and the botlane... I think Rahel Loopy will be good enough to carry few games for SK on their own.
i think that the nicest looking person in the LEC is Hans Sama. actually change that to player, person is probably dagda xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
For those who have been commenting it, yeah Vladi did play last split, and I just misspoke. I thought he was okay but bottom half
I'm sorry but BB is objectively the hottest LEC player and you can't convince me otherwise
To each their own, not my type
@@PsychopathicPoroClips damn :/
Thank you!!! Like his aura and stuff I just can’t 😭😭 I love him damn
i never realised people cared this much abt this sort of stuff. i absolutely loved hearing u nerd out (/pos) abt all the teams and ur knowledge is, as always, super impressive. im now far more invested in the league pro scene whether i want to be or not
But... Vladi already played this year xD
And he looked good!
The range of were KC can end is huge and dependent on two points.
How good is Caliste gonna be?
How good is Yike gonna be?
Yike looked the best when G2 revolved around him and goddamn, he WAS the best jungler in EU. In 2024 G2 wanted another playstyle, that's why Yike didn't look that impressing this year... But 2023 he was really insane, especially when he needed to be the main carry.
He had lots of 1 vs 9 games actually while BB wasn't the insane toplaner he is right now and while Caps was running down most games. People tend to forget this a lot and I don't know how???
But he needs to be the main voice and the main character of this team and then KC can be really strong and I think they can surprise everyone. Targamas is a big questionmark tho.
Vladi looked ok, didn't seem like he could hold up just yet
I think Caliste will be probably lower end of top half for his first split
I think yike will probably struggle, he looked good in 2023 for sure, but an entire year of being a lot more underwhelming definitely adds question marks
@PsychopathicPoroClips
Vladi looked good for a rookie I would say, we had quite a lot worse rookies last year. He definitely has potential.
I disagree with Yike being a lot more underwhelming 2024 tho. Apart from his MSI being insane where he gapped Oner in the first T1 series + gapping Tian... The only ACTUALLY underwhelming split was summer where G2 as a whole was underwhelming... And Yike didn't get to play OP Lillia and OP Viego - which is highly questionable drafting.
But yes, Yike could actually struggle a bit... But if he can grow with this... KC is gonna be dangerous.
@@PsychopathicPoroClips even showmaker said he was rly good, he rly made an impression on him. but to you (who didnt remember that he even played last year) it seems that he was bottom tier. go rewatch the games then, he was more than decent. their weak points were closer and targamas in summer playoffs and even then they still made top 4 and 1 game away from qual to season finals.
u literally put the team that went 4th last split 9th after they got a considerable upgrade ? the only other team that got as big of an upgrade is mad (arguably fnc too). g2 can scale but it's not an upgrade, sk heretics vit bds downgrade or at least equivalent. rogue is a bit of a question mark seeing how none of their players have performed recently (except adam which didnt perform well in the very recent nno cup).
and i forgot gx which is also an upgrade. but even if you put gx fnc g2 and koi in front of kc they are still top 5. ur just so biased.
My dude! I would love for you to make this kind of videos for all the 5 major regions.
That's the plan
5?
@@tormork5720 yes, LTA (americas North and South)
LEC
LCK
LPL
And LCP (Ex pcs and ljl)
I hope that KC will be good, nice video :)
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Challenge accepted
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Sheo gets Jankos treatment xD
Vladi already played in summer and looked like a top 5 mid imo
Overall I think you heavily underrate the KC team, their laners and jg are all good, top 4 team for me
+I think Caliste will be really good in LEC because why would G2 want to trade Hans for Caliste if he wasn't cracked
extremely funny. 🤣🤣, So Yike with 'no winning lanes' is now magically shit. Vladi who already played last year gapped almost all mids (including ROY Jackies) he faced except nuc caps huma as a rookie cant progress but others can. Canna... dont even need to add something on your shit take. Caliste Targamas duo just played 2 days ago vs Koi and go watch it for yourself.... nevermind. its funny how closer who all were saying shit of him las year now he is out of KC Magically is good now. Can't Wait for LEC to begin
everyone laughed at kc for having closer subbing for bo and he still played like shit but now that he's not on kc he's the best fucking jungler in the world. also if caliste was going to g2 he'd also be the best in the world no doubt, in kc he's overrated and top 9.
yike, best jungler in lec, goes to kc -> we donno what hes capable of :/ is he rly a good player ? we donnooo never seen him play before.
targamas is shit tho thats just sad, i know i can play better and i dont feel that way with many other players lol.
Have You watched the show match between KOI and KC this Weekend and if so what are your conclusions on both these roasters? (even tho some players were missing)
I have not, was it high enough quality that it's worth checking out?
@@PsychopathicPoroClips It was entertaining at the very least, but I'm not a great league analyst so I can't really speak for the quality. But imo KC showed some good things and the community seemed satisfied with the performance even tho they went 0-2, KOI looked in good shape and JJP seemed to clic well with the rest of the gang.
BB is definitely one of the top5 toplaners, Zeus and bin are top2, kiin, bb and 369 are top5 (in particular order), since breath and Doran got so hard gapped by kiin and bb and 369 didn’t performed as good as he did in 2023.
What an iron take xD
@ now tell me your KR challenger take
the last two options are such iron takes, did you only watch worlds?
@ did you watched the video? These two are what the video suggests? And also, if you can’t go to international event for the whole year, unless you preformed like ruler, how do we know if you will fumble on the stage? Still, you you wanna start a conversation with disrespectful troll messages, I should not reply you
Fnatic should be in „forever 2nd” tier
KC behind SK is Crazy
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@@PsychopathicPoroClipsYou know ball
@@PsychopathicPoroClips I mean it's your Tierlist tho idk i Think Canna Yike Vladi are all really insane players and Caliste is the Bright star, so idk :) i think i really see them Top5. Still a good video
There's three rosters I cannot for the life of me place or put faith in because they have some really weird holes in their rosters imo: VIT, BDS and GX.
VIT because I am not really convinced by their rookies from what little I've seen of them and I feel like the whole roster depends on Lyncas and Hilly finding the synergy they lacked.
BDS because I feel like they doubled down on a weakness they had in Summer. They struggled because Sheo couldn't adapt to Zyra/Brand meta and play them optimally. Now they have 113 who has no problem playing carries but with jungle usually not being the main carry role, I feel like BDS could have a real carry problem if the meta locks on Sejuani/Maokai/Skarner.
GX have a great roster on paper, but holy hell, I DO NOT TRUST THEIR MANAGEMENT. What little I've heard of it, it's an absolute nightmare. They've had decent rosters on paper before who always looked fairly bad in the end, so I don't trust them to get the maximum out of Noah and the rest of their players
Other than that, kind of a tossup in the middle of the pack. Sad to see Finn out, but hyped for RGE nonetheless as an Adam/Malrang/Execute fan and I cannot wait to see how FNC choke this year
All valid criticisms, although I try not to consider management unless it's a brutally obvious thing, because it's impossible for me to know exactly what's happening behind the scenes
The problem for vetheo was that he was an pick player, playing leblanc and zoe. And than put of nowhere they change the dude and let him play other stuff. I think it‘s good that he goes down a league and maybe next year can come back with a reset mindset. I still believe he can become a top 3 midlaner in LEC!
"They" didn't change anything, if you listen to what he's said himself, he actively chose to stagnate because he thinks his current playstyle is good enough
Very fun content, more please. Btw SK might be the sleeper agent of the LEC and not because of their players but because of their coaches.🤫
Personally I think SK is not that bad tho.
I mean toplane will be probably worse in 2025 + JNX was gapping every new toplaner. Isma will be still the worst part of roster, Reeker should be okay imo, and the botlane... I think Rahel Loopy will be good enough to carry few games for SK on their own.
G2 IS ACTUALLY COOKED WHAT IS THAT ROSTER 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's a good roster
i think that the nicest looking person in the LEC is Hans Sama. actually change that to player, person is probably dagda xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Hans is up there for sure
cz in czajek name is voiceless retroflex affricate
Ok great this helps me not at all🔥🔥🔥
KC and VIT will play without support
All in all pretty shit list. And im not even a KC fan