Hawker Hurricane - New Pilot Notes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Joe C has more Hurricane time than I do, but these clips are to brief him on the details of this particular Mk XII, learned from my initial flights in it. Modern fighters are all quite individual. That's the reality of the restoration process.
Joe will be flying the bulk of the "proving-out" hours on its Merlin 29 for our trip to Oshkosh, July 24.
This will be the third Hurricane Joe has flown. Not sure if anyone else in North America can say that in recent years.
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Thank you so much for posting.
Been flying simulated ones as the closest I will get. My favourite aircraft of all time. Always will be.
Hundreds of them were based in Surrey airfields all around me 84 years ago.
It sounds like a symphony! love it. Can not wait to listen to your experience, Dave!
Nice landing, love 3 pointers.
I'm no expert, but that looks like a doddle to fly. All the talk about it being a stable gun platform looks true - that was rock solid. Beautiful!
Love the sound of that mighty Rolls-Royce Merlin!
Great description of control inputs. Well done.
That plane looks amazing. I just know she flies as good as she looks too. You're a very lucky man to get to fly this Hurricane. Those things can really put the hammer down so to speak if need be. Faster than folks give them credit for. Great video, No Music but talking that tells you things you need to know if you ever get to fly one.
Even a little lean, Merlins are always such a good starter. And must be nice to fly a factory fresh Hurricane!
They're not always easy to start. The 60-Series engines with the second stage and the intercooler can be more troublesome.
This one is a -29. And has a separate Starting Magneto.
Thank you for this video. Keep 'em flying!!!
Great video......Thank you. 🇬🇧
Very nice Video!👍
Neat ride along . Thanks.
Finally a vid with no music . Loved the commentary and the video thanks so much
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My father flew Hurricane tank busters in North Africa 1942, nice to get a perspective on what he saw etc.
That was really interesting!
Dave at 4:28 I love the way you say " Wing overs are a good co-ordination exercise in this Hurricane because they are quite different from right to left. I recommend doing a lot of them to get used to that". Great advice and I sure will next time I am taking my Hurricane for a spin. LOL. I love your channel.
Tongue in cheek of course.
But there is a reality in the remark. Asymmetric thrust at high angles of attack (P-factor), plus torque, generate a requirement for rudder input to keep the needle centered in the Hurricane that is noticeably different than the Spitfire-Kittyhawk-Mustang. Big one way, less the other.
@@davehadfield5906 Yes and even though I am only an armchair pilot but have flown a B737 in a simulator, I knew exactly what you were talking about. Prop torque? I was just pulling your leg. BUT how about this...I am going for a ride in a 2 seater Spitfire at Ardmore Airport in NZ on my birthday the 23rd December. I have watched all your vids relating to the Spit and I am will have a Go Pro attached. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should be reasonably able to ask the pilot to do during our 30 minute flight? I will be flying in tandem with a P51 Mustang out of the same airport with a flying instructor friend of mine who will be in the Mustang.
@@EnglishLawyer Good for you! If you're in formation there isn't a lot of maneuvering you can do, so break off at some point, and roll the aeroplane around a bit. A 4-pt climbing roll in a Spit feels exquisite.
Great stuff.. I've found it! A really nice video, good t/o & landing, I'd be looking for grass, as I'd be squirreling about all over the place.
Excellent Dave. Thank you. Gil
Very nice landing Dave, very smooth.
Outstanding video and commentary! Thank you sir!
what a great and beautiful airplane!
Hi Dave,
I mentioned in a previous comment my dad attended BCATP, you asked where. Ive now got his records. He was at 33 EFTS Caron (on Cornell 26s) late '43, then 41 SFTS Weyburn (Harvard and Ansons I think). Sailed home to join 582 Pathfinders at Little Staughton. Once I've nailed the research Ill be building authentic versions of the airfields on XPlane flight sim, then following his training schedule. Thanks for your interest and best regards. Neil.
Great! There's a BCATP group on FB that might be able to find pictures for you. Give them a try.
I guess it must be kind of hard to just fly straight and level when you're in a fighter!
If anyone says 'stable gun platform' instaban.
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Are the flat sheet metal pieces that come out each side in front of the cockpit there so the engine exhaust does not blind the pilot at night? Its the only reason I can think of.
Yes, they are flame shields for night flying.
@@johngrantham8024 Probably also helps prevent exhaust from entering the cockpit with the canopy cracked.
As a regular pilot of both the Spitfire & Hurricane, what is your opinion & preference to fly? I realise that a MkIX Spit has greater performance over the Hurricane but it’s interesting that BoB pilots generally had their opinions on what was the better aircraft. There were those that stated the Hurricane was the better gun platform etc.. It could certainly absorb more battle damage over the Spitfire..
The Spitfire. It's much more of a precision instrument; and I love the way it accelerates when you put the nose below the horizon. But the choice depends on the job to do. If I was operating out of a 2500 ft grass strip, with mud, the Hurricane would be my first choice. And for flying across the country, the Mustang, hands-down.
Sweet!, She is alive. Just curiosity, how many gallons per hour it burns?.
We're just working that out because each aircraft is slightly different, and of course it depends on where you put the throttle, but it's about 45 Imp Gals/hr.
@@davehadfield5906 Given the current price of gas, plus maintenance, Vintage Wings of Canada must need all the help it can get to keep those historical beauties flying! Maybe something to remember at the next Air Show.
@@yl9154 Yes -- the biggest expense is the required maintenance organization.
Two questions: where did you get the cell phone wrist attachment. And....how easy or difficult is it to use in the cockpit? It seems that the Bulldog cockpit is even tighter than the Hurri., I need more room or space savers. Thanks.
I bought it from Amazon. Quite a few to choose from. It's a little inconvenient if you have to insert your hand down into the side of the cockpit to operate a pump or lever. But generally it works well.
I don't like a kneepad because you have to put your head down to view it, and in aeroplanes with little stability, like the fighters, they wander off. The wrist-mount allows me to rest my hand on some upper part of the glareshield or gunsight or framing, and see the map while my head is up.
I used this wrist-mount and iPhone to fly our Spitfire to Comox and back in 2018, a 5000 nm journey. I had no other maps. There was an old Garmin 500 on the dash, but it was cumbersome and out of date.
@@davehadfield5906 Well I have a VUP on it's way. There is almost no room in the Bulldog for a knee pad. I got a kick out of the taxi problem with the Lysander, I have honestly had to turn back (taxing) due to not being able to get to the runway due to the wind. I love it when I learn something new!!!
Is the tru tac reading 1000 under reality?
It reads prop RPM Dave. You have to divide by the gear-ratio to get engine RPM -- .477 -- which is what the aircraft tach reads.
@@davehadfield5906 of course.Thanks.
Why does the Trutach read 1000rpm low?
An algorithm. You have to multiply by the 2-blade variable, or 3-blade, or 4-blade... etc.
The device only knows light-interruptions.
Do you feel a big difference in the roll rate to the right, and do you need to work the rudders & elevator a lot more to avoid big loss of altitude?
No, but any use of the rudder pops the nose up or down. It's an odd but recognized quirk of the Hurricane: a yaw-pitch coupling. In a formation as anything other than Lead, when crude use of the rudder is required to hold position, it's noticeable.
The rudders are never used to hold altitude in any airplane. They are there solely to prevent yaw, unless you're landing in a crosswind, or shooting somewhere other than where you're going.
There is a definite difference in rudder input to keep the turns centered when doing wingovers right vs left. Much more so that the other fighters I've flown, although they're all like that a bit of course.
@@davehadfield5906 Thanks. It's been a while (10 yrs) since I last flew, but when I was flying acro in a Great Lakes (2T-1A-2) then top rudder was mandatory in slow rolls to avoid dishing out bigly. (Forget knife-edge flight! Waaaay too much drag!) Good left slow rolls were a challenge, right slow rolls were glacially slow and required all control surfaces to be working throughout!
Good info on the yaw-roll coupling. In my retirement dreams I'll get to fly a tandem Hurricane. I'm picking up a lot of tips from you :-)
@@davehadfield5906 Aha! Am watching your Spit video now where you're walking through the 4-pt roll. Now I see why rudder is not a factor. You're already slightly +ve G and already slightly barreled. Makes perfect sense. (Also interesting to hear about the lack of inverted oil. The common myth is that it was the carburetors that prevented -ve G. Duly corrected! Also I now know the answer to whether hammerheads are allowed. Clearly not.)
@@practiCalfMRI Yes, there are very large torque effects if you get slow and the power is up high. Big prop.
As for the rolls, yes, we stay pos-G, and we don't worry about doing it on a line like you would if it was an aero competition.
I did my first rolls in a Great Lakes too.
@@davehadfield5906 Neat! From back in the day.... th-cam.com/video/1DLELBBfTw4/w-d-xo.html The Lakes has a great combo of aesthetics and capability, although it's sub-optimal for the passenger! I'm way more interested in the handling characteristics and quirks of these old designs than the modern Lasers, Extras and so forth. You're a lucky man. Your video on the Lysander was eye-opening, to say the least! Keep 'em coming, please! FWIW you're firing up my enthusiasm to get back up in the air.
Jest ok
Thanks!
I jest all the time -- known for it.