Once you grind the outsole a bit it’s a banger. Switch out those laces. The uk 11 is spot on true to size. Also rip out the insoles and put some others in. Makes a big difference.
@@macewindex564 Haven’t found that with any adidas shoes recently. It’s the last which is narrow. Most people in larger sizes have wider feet. Sadly Andy has one foot larger than the other which seems to cause this toe rubbing issue
Hi Andy! I'd say absolutely the best daily trainer! I've never been an Adidas fan but I literally fell in love with this shoe, it's pure fun to run in this one as it has a very wide range of use.
Took mine on holiday to Canada recently and ran in the snow in them grip fantastic so don’t understand the problems you’re having. I went half size up and fit perfect. As for your sizing problem do the same as your Pros cut a hole in them and get on with it! Fantastic shoe best of the year 👍😊
I have 85km on this shoe now. I was concerned when I first tried it on that the toes were too snug and that I should have half sized up but due to patience issues I didn't. (11.5uk). My second run was a 20km and after that the shoes opened up beautifully, I don't notice my toes at all. I live in Cape Town and it's rainy season, I haven't felt uneasy with the grip at all. My first 2 runs were in the dry so perhaps a layer came off and I'm confident int the wet now. Compared to my ice skate Novablast 3 that slide all over. The only issue I've had is the outside ankle collar that catches both left and right ankles, on my long run both were bleeding. So now I have to plaster up, hoping it will soften. My last run in them was 29km, extremely happy except for the painful ankle rubbing
@@AndresBarreiro i don't think you need to half size up, I went same size between the Nova and Sl2. The SL is a more snug fit all round. Just a heads up to try it on of you can, the high ankle is a huge problem for me
Update at 260km. Overall ride still feels great. Ankle collar is a major issue for me, bruising my ankle bone terribly to a point where it stays painful for a week. I've had to put a second set of insoles inside to try raise my foot up. It's helped a little but I can't muster more than 20km in them. This also created a really tight space for the toes . Overall wear looks fantastic, outsole barely has visible wear and the foam hasn't collapsed anywhere. The upper looks good, asides for the ankles where they rub me starting to fray.
Try streaching - either buy cheap streatcher or use cobbler service, dont have this one yet but from look of it upper is a bit plastic and it should streach up in toe box volume ... worth a shot - myself done streaching many times and it works 💪
Interesting, here in Taipei it is often wet. Constant wet in sub-tropical climates means moss and green slim on heavily shaded areas. I've had zero issues with grip with this shoe on wet or the green slime. I'm actually finding the AdiWear outsole a bit too grippy at time as I literally hear (and feel) it tearing into the road, wet or dry. On toebox volume, it's also odd. I am always careful about toenail trauma and fit on the toebox (the Alphafly 2 did a number on my big toenails years ago) and this one has given me no issues. The Peg41 I understand as I do get that Peg feel ontop of the big toe, but in the SL2, nothing. The thing with the upper is it won't stretch much at all. However, I am finding the midsole conforms to your foot rather fast and that may give you the room you need. So maybe a few more runs with some plasters (bandaids) to protect your toe and see where it goes.
Good to hear your thoughts buddy 👊 I took them for a speed sesh last night and felt like I was wheel spinning! In terms of the fit, I’ll be patient and hope the midsole foam moulds to the foot… I whipped the insoles out before the sesh and zero issues with toebox volume, so that’s done the trick 🙏
I had the same issue I thought it was the wrong size but it was just my big toe touching the top. Haven’t done many miles yet but I didn’t notice it too much when I got going. Apart from that it’s a great shoe at a good price. Adidas midsoles are spot on
Re sizing, you have got the right size (at least numerically) as don't forget adidas UK sizes are 0.5 more than say Nike or Saucony or Brooks but they are all US 14 or 32 cm shoes. I just slipped my same UK 13.5 ones back on to remind me and even without socks they do seem to be just a fraction shorter than the norm for us. As I recall your feet are about 3mm longer than me and wider too and so, according to the size chart, you are right on the cusp of a UK 13.5 and a UK 14 so a shoe like this (or the Adios Pro 3) would only need to be a fraction short to feel it is the wrong size. That sounds like it is the case here. I've not seen this for sale in anything bigger than a UK 13.5 however although oddly adidas UK list every 0.5 size up to about a 18 as greyed out. I didn't find the toebox excessively low in this one unlike the original SL which did feel like it was crushing my toes although did get a little better after the first run. Also is your midfoot secure as in those shots where you were demonstrating the outsole grip on wet roads you looked to be deliberately sliding forwards which is then bound to feel your toes are being crushed. I also tend to find in new shoes that the toes will "sit down" just a fraction after a few runs when they leave a slight depression in the insole. I wouldn't replace the insoles in these especially if you think the upper is too shallow. They are glued down and seem to be very thin and I suspect anything you try to slip in will make that worse and just lift you up. Other "tricks" I use are cutting and filing down my toes (especially my big ones) and wearing thin socks. Not sure if you can return adidas shoes after obviously (well if it is) wearing them - I thought not. So suggest either try and return them or make sure the midsole is secure and possibly try my "tricks". Otherwise seems daft to wear a shoe for some of your key training that does not fit you properly however much it feels like it would be good.
Yeah definitely on the cusp... I remember trying the solar boost in a 14 and was absolutely swimming so I wouldnt want to size up... but a 13.5 was too tight... so awkward! I will be trying tricks before cutting them for sure... I do really want to keep them, finding a decent non plated shoe these days is a novelty! I was indeed deliberatley sliding forward just to demonstrate... obviously it wasn't that drastic when I was running but I definitely felt like I was wheel spinning on occasions, which wasn't ideal!
Thanks for the review. I purchased a pair in the same colourway and completed first 10km run last night. In terms of sizing - they feel true to size to me. I would say they maybe run 1-2mm short, as I have a touch under the full thumb width at the front - which is what I usually have in my UK8. Compared to the Boston 12 (which I did not like at all!), they are less wide and shorter in the toebox. I see where you are coming from with the low volume toebox (my left big toe does stick up slightly, so it can be an issue!) - although it didn't affect me on the run. The minor faults I have are tongue slippage - which would be easily resolved if it was gusseted, and some outward flexing of the upper on the sides of the ankle collar. A runners knot could resolve - but probably not. On the whole - a great shoe for the money.
I agree with the grip on damp road/path surfaces, but it's not too bad. I did get a couple of blisters, but nothing major. The feel just walking is good, but running it is awesome, a good addition to a shoe rotation.
As a cyclist from the days before non-euro gear, I had to learn my European shoe size for my cycling shoes from Italy. That is what I use for Adidas rather than the USA size on the box. I have noticed that the EU size doesn’t always correspond with the same USA size so that lends some credence to the different sizing/last ideas. I also couldn’t help thinking that your training block needs match the ASICS Superblast to a T. Hearing that the SB2 is as good as the SB1, that might be a good option for you, if they make them in your canal barge size 😂
Thanks for an honest review. Like you, I am a UK size 13 in everything else other than ADIDAS and PUMA. Height = 6'4" and weight = 95kgs, so not quite as tall as you and a bit heavier, but similar build. Think I will pass on spending money on running shoes I would need to change so much personally.......even if they are decent
I got a couple of absolutely huge blisters after a 20k in them but with blister plasters covering them, I carried on using them! I've got about 120 miles done and I'm really impressed with them, light and responsive. Had enough in the legs and was comfortable enough to really kick on the final k of my 17 home from work yesterday which makes them an excellent daily trainer for me. Been lucky not to have the slipping issue, but I'm a midfoot runner so might that, ahem, impact? But: if the shoe is sliding and you're thinking of having to cut it to make it comfy AND you're having to buy new laces... I'd send them back.
Good review. Interesting about the grip. Maybe there really is a quality difference between Continental and Adidas own in-house stuff. With the sizing I have never really had an issue with Adidas. I just get my usual size 40 EU and it works... But these are small feet of course, might be different in boat sizes.
Hi Andy. I love to follow all your talks and advice. We are quite the same build. I am 6’6 and a bit and wear a uk 13 (13.5 in Takumi sen). It s always good to hear your comments. However , I am a bit stuck at not having all the sizes available to me in South Africa. (So if ever you want to resell some shoes to me that you are not using give me a buzz. 😂) Keep up the good work. Niel
Hey! Thats awesome to hear from a fellow 6ft6in runner! At the end of the year, once I have done all of my running shoe recap and awards videos we can sort something out for sure
Very happy with my SL2. Based on my expirience I've bought also a pair of Boston 12. But my overall favorite shoe is still Nike next%, but till now now follow-up...😢. That's also the reason I love SL2, same ride as Next%.
I'm fine with, and actually kind of enjoy swapping out laces, but cutting a hole in a brand new pair of shoes isn't worth it if you can return them for full price.
For those who pronates it does not have the stability component on this shoe as mentioned by other run bloggers in youtube. It's good for hill sprint and straight a way road and track.
Nice reviews, providing the bad along with the good. The bad is more important to the majority of people, so please keep providing both and thank you for your honest opinion. Much appreciated.
I got it in 11 US and ran about 30k even though it was running small and hoping it would loosen. It didn't so I gave them away. 11 US is perfect for me in the Boston 12, ts8 and Prime X Strung 1. I then bought it again in 1/2 size up and still too tight, length ok but not enough space for the big toe. I've sent them back 😢 Probably wait for the SL 3 now. Hopefully they fix the fit. They should just copy the Rebel v4. I just got my second pair of the Boston 12 and will just use that instead. Fit is superb for me in that shoe and it isn't too aggressive. Also just ordered the ghost max 2 for easier runs and looking forward to that. Rebel v4, Boston 12 and ghost max 2 will be my main training rotation for now.
I have 2 pairs..white and carbon...no problems with the grip even on wet riverside boarding,sized up a half and the fit is perfect, but maybe many of your issues may be to your size of foot and weight, but average sized and lighter runners(size 9) as am I and 70 kilos would maybe get a different feel...all in all I think they're the best DT I've ran in and great value for money....laces though...hmmm.
This was my first try of Adidas running shoes and I liked the underfoot feel, the narrow fit, and how the shoe felt like a glove. But I did not think the upper was breathable and the insole felt very abrasive and made my feet feel hot. Lastly, the way Adidas layered the two foams created uncomfortable pressure on my arches, which are high and don’t usually have a problem. Sent mine back and wish there were other LS Pro/LS 2.0 shoes that didn’t have rods.
You're right about Adidas laces. They absolutely suck. I also replaced the laces in my Adidas Boston 12. Their laces are thin, uncomfortable, and they don't stretch at all. It's amazing that Adidas' shoe designers have to be told these things that they apparently can't figure out for themselves.
Hmm, I have the same issue with the Terrex Agravic Speeds - they felt too small (I did go 1/2 size down), but it's actually just the pressure on the big toe from above.
I also got severe big toe rub for shallow toebox. I used wet-stretching repeatedly w. small hard objtects inside shoe. (did not need heat-stretching). Also I grinded me some medial heel bewel. The heel is great otherwise. (I hate Adizero heelrub and that lateral bias on heel bewel. Ruins most Adizero shoes for me.) Had no grip problems myself. May get better grip after break-in?
Once you get your size right, this is a very enjoyable shoe (sort of Endorphin Speed 1/2). Hopefully the upper will losen a bit to give you a bit more space. There are some shoe stretchers that you might try to increase the volume. Based on US sizing, it is TTS for me (US10). Adidas tends to put those cheese wire laces in Adizero lineup. They work but slightly wider laces would have been better which wouldn't add more than 1 or 2g weight but after all this is a training shoe so it is acceptable that weight increase.
Im glad you suffer from same sizing in consistencies as me. Adios 6 went half a size up, wish I didn't. Boston 10, half a size up, glad I did. SL2 went true to size, wish I had went half a size up. I don't own any of these shoes anymore cos sizing is all over the place.
Adidas sizing always gets me too. To the point of me not even bothering to try them. It's annoying because I like the look of the Adidas ones even just as a casual shoe
Andy, you and T. grose i believe were quoted "if you buy cheap, you buy twice" for me Adi doesnt stock US 13.5 &theres all the other issues...so if you buy compromised theres no value I believe Brooks keeps this in mind with bigger runners/mass market whereas this Adizero SL2 is for a smaller euro lower foot volume/length. So the new Hyperion tempo/max should be the go to. Yes they're more $ but then are they if there is no issues?
Great point, and yes thanks for reminding me of that! I can confirm I have the max 2 in for testing and the fit is sublime... makes me realise we shouldnt compromise on our running shoes!
I've had it with the Boston 12, but on my other toes. Later miles of a 17 mile run left the top of my smaller toes rubbed raw. Big toe was surprisingly fine.
I think you should try the Boston 12, it is the most durable shoe from Adidas, as I understand mine has 1100 kms and is long and wide in the toes, I am sure it will suit you. Like it and it will be perfect.
I have no idea what cheese wire is but I assume it’s not good. The laces are fine for me. I didn’t find any slippage with the outsole but we also don’t get much rain during this time of year.
Haha! OK so people can cut cheese with "cheese wire", its very thin wire that slices through a block of cheese very easily! Im basically saying theyre too thin
Could try cutting the big toe area away from the insole to give you a little more room rather than cutting the upper, at least you can try that with an old insole and not damage the shoe in any way.
I have the same issue on one foot. I’ve done two runs now, the first was just 7 km and it was fine, but on my second run of 14 km I got a blister. They are also slightly too narrow so my foot slightly extends past the edge of the insole which also cased a blister on my longer run. I’m already up half a size and I’ve tried other Adidas going up a full size, but found that makes the narrow forefoot problem into an even worse narrow arch-forefoot that rendered them completely unrunable. However, with some Adidas the fit has been perfect for me. The Adios 8 is probably the best I’ve found. I would be interested if there’s a quick fix like switching insoles because it does seem almost a brilliant shoe
Just dropped a video on the extra channel yesterday and the comparison video talking talking about those modifications... removing the insole has definitely helped
Interested in purchasing this and just wanted to know - what is your heel to toe length in cm and for this what Adidaa UK size fit best for you? Trying to compare your response with the sizing chart on their website to make a decision for my own size. Thank you for the video.
Ran into a similar thing to the point that ive stopped running in them. I love the midsole, dont mind the grip but I dont want to walk away from every run with banged up feet because of the upper being so bad
@@TheFODRunner they cut into my feet like razor blades I have the supernova plus and that's like the sL lovely trainer but it's either too tight or too loose I can't get the lacing right no matter what I try
Interesting you are thinking of going with a trainer that has a slippery outsole (when we are currently living with year long April conditions in the UK ) that does not fit properly 🤔.. Perhaps you are thinking with your heart and not your head on this one.. Especially with the Brooks hyperion max 2 .. just about released. I always enjoy your reviews and content even if I do not like the shoe or it is not for me .. but a couple of red flags here .
Yeah its a shame buddy... I think what I will do is try and remove the insole first, thats standard practice for me on a few shoes, that might give me the depth I need... I can live with bad grip, I have run in enough endorphin speeds in my time haha! but the depth issue is the key, if the insoles sort it then happy days...
I definitely want to try the hyperion 2 yes... I have the hyperion max 2 in for testing right now but would love to try the update to the hyperion as well
I don't know why they supply trainers with laces as people have so many old ones already, their old shoes wear out so they chuck them but they could keep the laces.
I’ve bought them because they have many very good reviews. But I like the brooks glycerin 21 (I know it’s a very different shoe) much better 😅 for me it’s kinda wobbly. That said I run in a low pace. I have the same big toe issue with many shoes especially Nike peg trails. Why they make it so shallow 😢
Ran 8km in these and got 2 blisters just below the balls of my feet - perhaps the SL2 is too narrow for me or still needs to be broken in? Does removing the insole help with making the shoe less narrow?
@@TheFODRunner the only adidas I have tried was adios 6 and they were far too narrow..the rubber on the sole was great but I haven’t returned in fear their shoes are so narrow..I think I have figured im a Mach guy..can’t wait to try the 6
too bad this also have the issue I have with adios pro 3, hate that shoe, blisters on my first run straight out of the box, adidas sizing is just not for me bad heel lockdown as well, bad lacing it's my 2nd most expensive shoe and it's a friggin let down, it's also quite firm.
very unfortunate, you got those sizing problems, i am one of the lucky runners, with no problems in that regard. My suggestion is, cut it open and see how it goes. Unless you try it, you never will know....
With all due respect, I don't understand the hype about this shoe. From my experience is just a regular shoe. Bounce feels okay but you don't have that rollover experience. I think overall the Rebel V4 is a more interesting shoe, but that's just my opinion.
Good opinion! Everyone’s allowed on and they’re all welcome! Some people would agree with you…. I really enjoy the foam but it’s not for everyone… I’ve heard good things about the rebel
I recon this company wants you to conform...🙀 Cut your big toe off, I mean you only need it to balance, so restricting it is not gonna give you any issues, is it?
why not just cut the shoe if you're not going to use the shoe otherwise? you don't have anything to lose if you're not going to use it without the slit.
Bad sizing, terrible grip and bad laces. I had a pair of SL2's size 11 (same size as my Boston's) front toe box squeezed my toes so much, I gave the SL2's to my son who wears a size 10 and they fit him fine. A whole size too small Adidas, a whole size too small. Really Adidas?
I had the same issue I thought it was the wrong size but it was just my big toe touching the top. Haven’t done many miles yet but I didn’t notice it too much when I got going. Apart from that it’s a great shoe at a good price. Adidas midsoles are spot on
Once you grind the outsole a bit it’s a banger. Switch out those laces. The uk 11 is spot on true to size. Also rip out the insoles and put some others in. Makes a big difference.
They are short for most people
@@macewindex564 Haven’t found that with any adidas shoes recently. It’s the last which is narrow. Most people in larger sizes have wider feet. Sadly Andy has one foot larger than the other which seems to cause this toe rubbing issue
So basically buy a shoe & change elements of it...hhhmm
Any recommendations on replacement insoles?
@@macewindex564 Depends on foot shape, and their trail shoes are generally too long
Hi Andy! I'd say absolutely the best daily trainer! I've never been an Adidas fan but I literally fell in love with this shoe, it's pure fun to run in this one as it has a very wide range of use.
Adidas have got the colourways of their shoes on point this year 😍
Took mine on holiday to Canada recently and ran in the snow in them grip fantastic so don’t understand the problems you’re having. I went half size up and fit perfect. As for your sizing problem do the same as your Pros cut a hole in them and get on with it! Fantastic shoe best of the year 👍😊
I have 85km on this shoe now. I was concerned when I first tried it on that the toes were too snug and that I should have half sized up but due to patience issues I didn't. (11.5uk). My second run was a 20km and after that the shoes opened up beautifully, I don't notice my toes at all.
I live in Cape Town and it's rainy season, I haven't felt uneasy with the grip at all. My first 2 runs were in the dry so perhaps a layer came off and I'm confident int the wet now. Compared to my ice skate Novablast 3 that slide all over.
The only issue I've had is the outside ankle collar that catches both left and right ankles, on my long run both were bleeding. So now I have to plaster up, hoping it will soften.
My last run in them was 29km, extremely happy except for the painful ankle rubbing
How does it fit compares to novablast 3?? I’m 10us on nova3 , should i go 10.5 on sl2? Thanks!
@@AndresBarreiro i don't think you need to half size up, I went same size between the Nova and Sl2. The SL is a more snug fit all round. Just a heads up to try it on of you can, the high ankle is a huge problem for me
Update at 260km.
Overall ride still feels great.
Ankle collar is a major issue for me, bruising my ankle bone terribly to a point where it stays painful for a week. I've had to put a second set of insoles inside to try raise my foot up. It's helped a little but I can't muster more than 20km in them. This also created a really tight space for the toes .
Overall wear looks fantastic, outsole barely has visible wear and the foam hasn't collapsed anywhere. The upper looks good, asides for the ankles where they rub me starting to fray.
Try streaching - either buy cheap streatcher or use cobbler service, dont have this one yet but from look of it upper is a bit plastic and it should streach up in toe box volume ... worth a shot - myself done streaching many times and it works 💪
I haven't yet, but I will!
Interesting, here in Taipei it is often wet. Constant wet in sub-tropical climates means moss and green slim on heavily shaded areas. I've had zero issues with grip with this shoe on wet or the green slime. I'm actually finding the AdiWear outsole a bit too grippy at time as I literally hear (and feel) it tearing into the road, wet or dry.
On toebox volume, it's also odd. I am always careful about toenail trauma and fit on the toebox (the Alphafly 2 did a number on my big toenails years ago) and this one has given me no issues. The Peg41 I understand as I do get that Peg feel ontop of the big toe, but in the SL2, nothing. The thing with the upper is it won't stretch much at all. However, I am finding the midsole conforms to your foot rather fast and that may give you the room you need. So maybe a few more runs with some plasters (bandaids) to protect your toe and see where it goes.
Good to hear your thoughts buddy 👊 I took them for a speed sesh last night and felt like I was wheel spinning!
In terms of the fit, I’ll be patient and hope the midsole foam moulds to the foot… I whipped the insoles out before the sesh and zero issues with toebox volume, so that’s done the trick 🙏
I had the same issue I thought it was the wrong size but it was just my big toe touching the top. Haven’t done many miles yet but I didn’t notice it too much when I got going. Apart from that it’s a great shoe at a good price. Adidas midsoles are spot on
Re sizing, you have got the right size (at least numerically) as don't forget adidas UK sizes are 0.5 more than say Nike or Saucony or Brooks but they are all US 14 or 32 cm shoes. I just slipped my same UK 13.5 ones back on to remind me and even without socks they do seem to be just a fraction shorter than the norm for us. As I recall your feet are about 3mm longer than me and wider too and so, according to the size chart, you are right on the cusp of a UK 13.5 and a UK 14 so a shoe like this (or the Adios Pro 3) would only need to be a fraction short to feel it is the wrong size. That sounds like it is the case here. I've not seen this for sale in anything bigger than a UK 13.5 however although oddly adidas UK list every 0.5 size up to about a 18 as greyed out. I didn't find the toebox excessively low in this one unlike the original SL which did feel like it was crushing my toes although did get a little better after the first run. Also is your midfoot secure as in those shots where you were demonstrating the outsole grip on wet roads you looked to be deliberately sliding forwards which is then bound to feel your toes are being crushed. I also tend to find in new shoes that the toes will "sit down" just a fraction after a few runs when they leave a slight depression in the insole. I wouldn't replace the insoles in these especially if you think the upper is too shallow. They are glued down and seem to be very thin and I suspect anything you try to slip in will make that worse and just lift you up. Other "tricks" I use are cutting and filing down my toes (especially my big ones) and wearing thin socks. Not sure if you can return adidas shoes after obviously (well if it is) wearing them - I thought not. So suggest either try and return them or make sure the midsole is secure and possibly try my "tricks". Otherwise seems daft to wear a shoe for some of your key training that does not fit you properly however much it feels like it would be good.
Yeah definitely on the cusp... I remember trying the solar boost in a 14 and was absolutely swimming so I wouldnt want to size up... but a 13.5 was too tight... so awkward! I will be trying tricks before cutting them for sure... I do really want to keep them, finding a decent non plated shoe these days is a novelty! I was indeed deliberatley sliding forward just to demonstrate... obviously it wasn't that drastic when I was running but I definitely felt like I was wheel spinning on occasions, which wasn't ideal!
I’m guessing toe nails and not the toes ?😂
Thanks for the review. I purchased a pair in the same colourway and completed first 10km run last night. In terms of sizing - they feel true to size to me. I would say they maybe run 1-2mm short, as I have a touch under the full thumb width at the front - which is what I usually have in my UK8. Compared to the Boston 12 (which I did not like at all!), they are less wide and shorter in the toebox. I see where you are coming from with the low volume toebox (my left big toe does stick up slightly, so it can be an issue!) - although it didn't affect me on the run. The minor faults I have are tongue slippage - which would be easily resolved if it was gusseted, and some outward flexing of the upper on the sides of the ankle collar. A runners knot could resolve - but probably not. On the whole - a great shoe for the money.
I agree with the grip on damp road/path surfaces, but it's not too bad. I did get a couple of blisters, but nothing major. The feel just walking is good, but running it is awesome, a good addition to a shoe rotation.
As a cyclist from the days before non-euro gear, I had to learn my European shoe size for my cycling shoes from Italy. That is what I use for Adidas rather than the USA size on the box. I have noticed that the EU size doesn’t always correspond with the same USA size so that lends some credence to the different sizing/last ideas. I also couldn’t help thinking that your training block needs match the ASICS Superblast to a T. Hearing that the SB2 is as good as the SB1, that might be a good option for you, if they make them in your canal barge size 😂
Sadly they don’t! I’d love to try them but once again, they’re only released up to a UK12!!
Thanks for an honest review. Like you, I am a UK size 13 in everything else other than ADIDAS and PUMA. Height = 6'4" and weight = 95kgs, so not quite as tall as you and a bit heavier, but similar build. Think I will pass on spending money on running shoes I would need to change so much personally.......even if they are decent
I got a couple of absolutely huge blisters after a 20k in them but with blister plasters covering them, I carried on using them! I've got about 120 miles done and I'm really impressed with them, light and responsive. Had enough in the legs and was comfortable enough to really kick on the final k of my 17 home from work yesterday which makes them an excellent daily trainer for me. Been lucky not to have the slipping issue, but I'm a midfoot runner so might that, ahem, impact? But: if the shoe is sliding and you're thinking of having to cut it to make it comfy AND you're having to buy new laces... I'd send them back.
Good review. Interesting about the grip. Maybe there really is a quality difference between Continental and Adidas own in-house stuff.
With the sizing I have never really had an issue with Adidas. I just get my usual size 40 EU and it works... But these are small feet of course, might be different in boat sizes.
Hi Andy. I love to follow all your talks and advice. We are quite the same build. I am 6’6 and a bit and wear a uk 13 (13.5 in Takumi sen). It s always good to hear your comments. However , I am a bit stuck at not having all the sizes available to me in South Africa. (So if ever you want to resell some shoes to me that you are not using give me a buzz. 😂)
Keep up the good work. Niel
Hey! Thats awesome to hear from a fellow 6ft6in runner! At the end of the year, once I have done all of my running shoe recap and awards videos we can sort something out for sure
Very happy with my SL2. Based on my expirience I've bought also a pair of Boston 12. But my overall favorite shoe is still Nike next%, but till now now follow-up...😢. That's also the reason I love SL2, same ride as Next%.
I'm fine with, and actually kind of enjoy swapping out laces, but cutting a hole in a brand new pair of shoes isn't worth it if you can return them for full price.
For those who pronates it does not have the stability component on this shoe as mentioned by other run bloggers in youtube. It's good for hill sprint and straight a way road and track.
thanks for information. I'll just go for another affordable stability shoe
Yes I found it extremely neutral. That is good or not so good according to whether you need any "support".
@@Munchkinz11 asics novablast 4 pick that up
@@TimGrose i will not buy it because I'm thinking of my safety especially my foot that stomps while on this shoe.
Nice reviews, providing the bad along with the good. The bad is more important to the majority of people, so please keep providing both and thank you for your honest opinion. Much appreciated.
Thank you 🙏
The SL always fits tight in the toes, however that changes after about 100 km and it adapts to your foot, but I insist try the Boston
I got it in 11 US and ran about 30k even though it was running small and hoping it would loosen. It didn't so I gave them away.
11 US is perfect for me in the Boston 12, ts8 and Prime X Strung 1.
I then bought it again in 1/2 size up and still too tight, length ok but not enough space for the big toe. I've sent them back 😢
Probably wait for the SL 3 now. Hopefully they fix the fit. They should just copy the Rebel v4.
I just got my second pair of the Boston 12 and will just use that instead. Fit is superb for me in that shoe and it isn't too aggressive.
Also just ordered the ghost max 2 for easier runs and looking forward to that.
Rebel v4, Boston 12 and ghost max 2 will be my main training rotation for now.
I have 2 pairs..white and carbon...no problems with the grip even on wet riverside boarding,sized up a half and the fit is perfect, but maybe many of your issues may be to your size of foot and weight, but average sized and lighter runners(size 9) as am I and 70 kilos would maybe get a different feel...all in all I think they're the best DT I've ran in and great value for money....laces though...hmmm.
love that colorway, haven't seen it stateside. i have the classic black/white colorway. anyway, this is a killer, affordable daily trainer
This was my first try of Adidas running shoes and I liked the underfoot feel, the narrow fit, and how the shoe felt like a glove. But I did not think the upper was breathable and the insole felt very abrasive and made my feet feel hot. Lastly, the way Adidas layered the two foams created uncomfortable pressure on my arches, which are high and don’t usually have a problem. Sent mine back and wish there were other LS Pro/LS 2.0 shoes that didn’t have rods.
The sizing is mental I’m a 9 and have to get a 10 a full size up. I don’t have the issue in the Boston so what last are they use in for the sl2
Great review. Ive ordered some vaporfly laces for mine, im half tempted to rip the insoles out and put something better in, the holes really annoy me
You're right about Adidas laces. They absolutely suck. I also replaced the laces in my Adidas Boston 12. Their laces are thin, uncomfortable, and they don't stretch at all. It's amazing that Adidas' shoe designers have to be told these things that they apparently can't figure out for themselves.
Try replacing the insole to something thinner (e.g. those from Invincible Run 1) that should increase the volume of the shoe
Hmm, I have the same issue with the Terrex Agravic Speeds - they felt too small (I did go 1/2 size down), but it's actually just the pressure on the big toe from above.
I also got severe big toe rub for shallow toebox. I used wet-stretching repeatedly w. small hard objtects inside shoe. (did not need heat-stretching). Also I grinded me some medial heel bewel. The heel is great otherwise. (I hate Adizero heelrub and that lateral bias on heel bewel. Ruins most Adizero shoes for me.) Had no grip problems myself. May get better grip after break-in?
Interesting description, Andy. Another comparison: Kinvara14 - Adidas adizero SL 2, what do you think, please??. Here is my Like. Have a great day.
Good comparison!! They are quite similar but the kinvara is much lighter and smaller midsole stack height! The kinvara is very fast!
@@TheFODRunner . Thank you.
Try to stretch the material right at the end if you can
I will, definitely before cutting any holes!
SL2! 💪👟
How does it compare to the Mach 6? Which one would you pick?
Just dropped a video today with that comparison
Awesome!
Once you get your size right, this is a very enjoyable shoe (sort of Endorphin Speed 1/2). Hopefully the upper will losen a bit to give you a bit more space. There are some shoe stretchers that you might try to increase the volume. Based on US sizing, it is TTS for me (US10).
Adidas tends to put those cheese wire laces in Adizero lineup. They work but slightly wider laces would have been better which wouldn't add more than 1 or 2g weight but after all this is a training shoe so it is acceptable that weight increase.
Yeah I'm not a fan of these laces... I dont mind adding and extra gram for 2 for better laces!
Im glad you suffer from same sizing in consistencies as me. Adios 6 went half a size up, wish I didn't. Boston 10, half a size up, glad I did. SL2 went true to size, wish I had went half a size up. I don't own any of these shoes anymore cos sizing is all over the place.
Ridiculous isnt it... its like every other brand can manage it but them
Adidas sizing always gets me too. To the point of me not even bothering to try them. It's annoying because I like the look of the Adidas ones even just as a casual shoe
Order 2 sizes send back one. Choose shop with free returns.
Andy, you and T. grose i believe were quoted "if you buy cheap, you buy twice" for me Adi doesnt stock US 13.5 &theres all the other issues...so if you buy compromised theres no value
I believe Brooks keeps this in mind with bigger runners/mass market whereas this Adizero SL2 is for a smaller euro lower foot volume/length.
So the new Hyperion tempo/max should be the go to. Yes they're more $ but then are they if there is no issues?
Great point, and yes thanks for reminding me of that! I can confirm I have the max 2 in for testing and the fit is sublime... makes me realise we shouldnt compromise on our running shoes!
I had same issue with Boston 10, not enough height for my big toe, but Adios pro 2 fit brilliant 👍
I've had it with the Boston 12, but on my other toes. Later miles of a 17 mile run left the top of my smaller toes rubbed raw. Big toe was surprisingly fine.
I think you should try the Boston 12, it is the most durable shoe from Adidas, as I understand mine has 1100 kms and is long and wide in the toes, I am sure it will suit you. Like it and it will be perfect.
The Boston fits quite long and will work very well for you and the grip on wet and smooth floors is incredible, try it and let me know!!
The Boston 12 has a plate though and is for runs longer than 90 mins. More bounce in the SL2
Have you tried putting a shoe stretcher in them?
cutting the shoe is the last resort... I will try removing the insole first, then stretching before anything else
I have no idea what cheese wire is but I assume it’s not good. The laces are fine for me. I didn’t find any slippage with the outsole but we also don’t get much rain during this time of year.
Haha! OK so people can cut cheese with "cheese wire", its very thin wire that slices through a block of cheese very easily! Im basically saying theyre too thin
Just had to return my pair and get a half size up. My normal size 10 were too short.
Could try cutting the big toe area away from the insole to give you a little more room rather than cutting the upper, at least you can try that with an old insole and not damage the shoe in any way.
Good plan... i'll try removing the insole first to see if that gives me some better room and if that doesnt help... i might try this first
I have the same issue on one foot. I’ve done two runs now, the first was just 7 km and it was fine, but on my second run of 14 km I got a blister. They are also slightly too narrow so my foot slightly extends past the edge of the insole which also cased a blister on my longer run. I’m already up half a size and I’ve tried other Adidas going up a full size, but found that makes the narrow forefoot problem into an even worse narrow arch-forefoot that rendered them completely unrunable. However, with some Adidas the fit has been perfect for me. The Adios 8 is probably the best I’ve found. I would be interested if there’s a quick fix like switching insoles because it does seem almost a brilliant shoe
Just dropped a video on the extra channel yesterday and the comparison video talking talking about those modifications... removing the insole has definitely helped
@@TheFODRunner Thanks! I’ll give it a shot
Interested in purchasing this and just wanted to know - what is your heel to toe length in cm and for this what Adidaa UK size fit best for you? Trying to compare your response with the sizing chart on their website to make a decision for my own size. Thank you for the video.
Ran into a similar thing to the point that ive stopped running in them. I love the midsole, dont mind the grip but I dont want to walk away from every run with banged up feet because of the upper being so bad
Frustrating isnt it! Glad its not just me
Hair dryer on them and stretch and dont get me started on adidas laces😂
Mad arent they, why the heck are they so terrible!
@@TheFODRunner they cut into my feet like razor blades I have the supernova plus and that's like the sL lovely trainer but it's either too tight or too loose I can't get the lacing right no matter what I try
An amazing shoe for me, at least in the conditions I use them. Greetings from Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Would you guys get these over the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4?
Interesting you are thinking of going with a trainer that has a slippery outsole (when we are currently living with year long April conditions in the UK ) that does not fit properly 🤔.. Perhaps you are thinking with your heart and not your head on this one.. Especially with the Brooks hyperion max 2 .. just about released. I always enjoy your reviews and content even if I do not like the shoe or it is not for me .. but a couple of red flags here .
Yeah its a shame buddy... I think what I will do is try and remove the insole first, thats standard practice for me on a few shoes, that might give me the depth I need... I can live with bad grip, I have run in enough endorphin speeds in my time haha! but the depth issue is the key, if the insoles sort it then happy days...
What's that color way? I like it
Dash Grey / Core Black / Lucid Lemon
Aren't' those the same laces of the Boston 12?
I have the same toe issue with ASICS nimbus. I wanna try Adidas - love the look. But I can’t find any that fit right 😣
I'm one of the few humans who actually love the Adidas laces. They are the only laces that stay tied.
Oh yes, they stay tied up really well, I agree there! But they are too thin, I struggle to get a good solid lockdown with them
So need to change laces, cut a hole for toes and grip is bad in wet. Maybe use them only on light trails?
maybe! haha
I've been enjoying the SL2 and I don't have the fit issues. Will you try the Hyperion 2? It seems like a mild improvement to the Hyperion Max.
I definitely want to try the hyperion 2 yes... I have the hyperion max 2 in for testing right now but would love to try the update to the hyperion as well
I don't know why they supply trainers with laces as people have so many old ones already, their old shoes wear out so they chuck them but they could keep the laces.
I'd pay an extra 20 quid for the continental rubber! Please take note adidas hehe thanks
Yeah I would honestly as well, that stuff is quality
@@TheFODRunner yes I have the boston 12s and the grip is unreal on those. Agree their laces require an update bud. 👌
I’ve bought them because they have many very good reviews. But I like the brooks glycerin 21 (I know it’s a very different shoe) much better 😅 for me it’s kinda wobbly. That said I run in a low pace.
I have the same big toe issue with many shoes especially Nike peg trails. Why they make it so shallow 😢
Loved the Clifton 1, enough to cut a hole for my pinky toe. Any thoughts on the Hyperion Max 2 yet?
Hyperion max 2 are on their way
I’m the same. Sizing a nightmare. I just avoid adidas. Which is a real shame.
Yep me too, the Takumi sen 8 is the only Adidas shoe I own , though I have tried a fair few over the years .
wish it is abit wider, any recommendations for wider foot?
The ASICS noosa tri 16 has taken me by surprise and is wider… Thursday a video will drop on them 👊
These shoes felt way too narrow to me, and I don’t have wide feet.
so the SL2 is like Boston 12 but without the carbon rod?
Not tried the bostons sadly, but I’ve heard similar feedback to this!
Ran 8km in these and got 2 blisters just below the balls of my feet - perhaps the SL2 is too narrow for me or still needs to be broken in? Does removing the insole help with making the shoe less narrow?
Agree a great shoe.
Cut a toe-shaped piece from the insole. You won't notice it and it might give you a bit more room.
Adizero SL 2 or the new Pegasus Plus ?
Haven’t tried the peg plus sadly!
Have you ever tried a shoe expander ? Maybe you could make a bit more room for your toe this way
I will be trying this before cutting any holes
SL2 vs Boston 12 vs Supernova(s) which is the best daily trainer from Adidas??, thanks again
SL2 hands down
Would love to answer that buddy but havent tried the supernovas or the boston
No one should EVER have to slice the top of the shoe..that’s crazy
That, is 💯 true!! And that’s the internal battle I had with myself before doing it to the pro 3… but since then it’s been a game changer…
@@TheFODRunner the only adidas I have tried was adios 6 and they were far too narrow..the rubber on the sole was great but I haven’t returned in fear their shoes are so narrow..I think I have figured im a Mach guy..can’t wait to try the 6
too bad this also have the issue I have with adios pro 3, hate that shoe, blisters on my first run straight out of the box, adidas sizing is just not for me bad heel lockdown as well, bad lacing it's my 2nd most expensive shoe and it's a friggin let down, it's also quite firm.
Can SL2 be used for long distance running?maybe just 10km/weeks
I ran a half marathon training run in them and they were great, plus a few workouts totally 10 miles… they can definitely do longer distances
@@TheFODRunner thanks, I am more confident to take a pair of SL2 for daily use. Rotation with my novablast4..
Ankle colar is too high. Forced me to send it back. It is very similar to velicity 3, which is way chipper and has better build quality.
The shoe for you has 3 strikes against it: 1: grip; 2: fit; 3: laces. You should send it back and get a refund.
They will break in. Both upper and midsole. You end up with more room in the toe box.
I vote to break out the scissors ✂️.
They might make an appearance! I removed the insoles and thats helped... but still getting a tiny bit of rubbing between the toes so I might have too
@@TheFODRunner Never thought of removing the insoles: good idea. I cut some shoes once too: worked pretty well.
very unfortunate, you got those sizing problems, i am one of the lucky runners, with no problems in that regard.
My suggestion is, cut it open and see how it goes. Unless you try it, you never will know....
Gonna take out the insole first to see if that helps... and if no joy, I will probably do that... I really want to keep them haha!
With all due respect, I don't understand the hype about this shoe. From my experience is just a regular shoe. Bounce feels okay but you don't have that rollover experience. I think overall the Rebel V4 is a more interesting shoe, but that's just my opinion.
Good opinion! Everyone’s allowed on and they’re all welcome! Some people would agree with you…. I really enjoy the foam but it’s not for everyone… I’ve heard good things about the rebel
For sure! If you don't like super soft under foot feeling, stay away from the Rebel! Btw I really aprecciate your input and I watch all your videos! 👍
@@MarceloRodrigues-cn1is thank you 🙏
I recon this company wants you to conform...🙀 Cut your big toe off, I mean you only need it to balance, so restricting it is not gonna give you any issues, is it?
why not just cut the shoe if you're not going to use the shoe otherwise? you don't have anything to lose if you're not going to use it without the slit.
Yeah I am tempted, it has worked wonders on the pro 3! But I have since removed the insole and thats helped too
Bad sizing, terrible grip and bad laces. I had a pair of SL2's size 11 (same size as my Boston's) front toe box squeezed my toes so much, I gave the SL2's to my son who wears a size 10 and they fit him fine. A whole size too small Adidas, a whole size too small. Really Adidas?
Glad it’s not just me on the grip issue!!
This shoe will become a GOAT 🐐
I hope so!
Sounds like a hammer toe
Cut your toenails mate
Better pull them out with pliers.
I wish it was just the toenails that was the issue!
Cut a hole!
I had the same issue I thought it was the wrong size but it was just my big toe touching the top. Haven’t done many miles yet but I didn’t notice it too much when I got going. Apart from that it’s a great shoe at a good price. Adidas midsoles are spot on